NationStates Jolt Archive

As you all most certainly know, the 16 of April was marked forever as a day that no one wishes to revisit. It was the day that a violent gunman (who I will not name) mowed down 32 people before taking his own life. To honor the victims of that day, I propose that the residents of this forum refrain from posting any violent, war-like posts or threads on 4/16 from now into perpetuity. This will be strictly volantary; however, I believe that in the world we live in, a single moment of peace, even if virtual, will go a long way. So please join me in participating in the Day of II Peace, on 4/16/08, and every other 4/16 from now on.

PEACEMAKERS THUS FAR:

Buristan

OOC: This thread deliberately obscures the lines between the real world, and the fantasy roleplay realm that is NationStates. What happens in the real world has no effect or bearing on what happens in a fiction based RP community, therefore I personally do not see any point in this thread.

Not wishing to belittle your idea, but appointing a peace day every time something bad happens will very quickly reach the point where nobody is allowed to speak their mind.

For example, may I nominate the 3rd of September? That was the day my Daddy died. It's a day I'll always remember. But I wouldn't expect anybody else to. And I certainly would prefer they spoke plainly around me, rather than supressing any potential irritation until the next opportunity (at which point it will only have festered, and grown, adding to whatever the original problem was).

I'd recommend adding them to the list of people who are membered on other, pre-existing memorial days: Rememberence Sunday, for example.

OOC: This thread deliberately obscures the lines between the real world, and the fantasy roleplay realm that is NationStates. What happens in the real world has no effect or bearing on what happens in a fiction based RP community, therefore I personally do not see any point in this thread.

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Likewise here. I will agree that what happened at Virginia Tech was horrible in the extreme, but it should not be made into an impediment to daily operations on these forums.

Having said that, may those killed on that day rest in peace, and those left to mourn find solace.

OOC: This thread deliberately obscures the lines between the real world, and the fantasy roleplay realm that is NationStates. What happens in the real world has no effect or bearing on what happens in a fiction based RP community, therefore I personally do not see any point in this thread.

I agree.

While it's a nice idea, I'm going to have to side with the others on this one. Sure VA was a horrible incident, but in the grand scheme of things... it won't weigh heavily on my mind. If we had a minute's silence for every tragic death, we'd never be able to speak. Supposedly 235,000 people die every day on average, which puts it into perspective a little.

OOC: This thread deliberately obscures the lines between the real world, and the fantasy roleplay realm that is NationStates. What happens in the real world has no effect or bearing on what happens in a fiction based RP community, therefore I personally do not see any point in this thread.

OOC: I agree with AMF also. The General Fourms are the place to post, not The International Incidents Forum.

What happens in the real world has no effect or bearing on what happens in a fiction based RP community.OOC: I assume that this applies to current events. Many nations seem to RP with RL events and concepts somewhere in their history.

OOC: This thread deliberately obscures the lines between the real world, and the fantasy roleplay realm that is NationStates. What happens in the real world has no effect or bearing on what happens in a fiction based RP community, therefore I personally do not see any point in this thread.
[OOC: Sorry AMF, hate to burst your bubble, but I have to disagree with you to an extent. All role-players on this site, often base their role-plays off real-life incidents and figures, to varying degree. An example from early to mid 2006, was a role-play done by Ottoman Khaif and Azazia, which initially, was modelled off the real life Prophet Muhammad cartoon controversy which originated in the Netherlands...]

OOC: I assume that this applies to current events. Many nations seem to RP with RL events and concepts somewhere in their history.

Quite so. For instance, Naestoria's history rests on alternate-history versions of the 1993 and 2001 terrorist attacks, and several secret societies that are thinly veiled versions of real or allegedly real ones.

In Naestorian reality, however, Virginia was one of several states that were placed under martial law around this time, so the Virginia Tech campus was closed and inaccessible to gunmen and students alike. Therefore, this proposal will be met with a funny look from any Naestorian authority figure.

Basing one's RPs and national historical events-in part, or in whole-on real life is one thing, and is understandable in a fantasy role playing universe, but this here is something completely different.

For example, I might include a mention about 9/11 in Luslyvania's history, and list some way it affected my nation, but I won't openly come on here and say in my opinion every 11th of September, we should conduct no violence-based RPing. 9/11 was horrible, as was the Virginia Tech shooting, but, we shouldn't let it disrupt things here overmuch. Really, that's what people like that gunman want, and the best way we can deal with this is to mourn, and then, move on with life. I don't mean to sound cold, but that is how I see it.

Mourn if you wish, as that is entirely proper, and put up a thread to discuss it if you desire-in the General area, where it belongs.

[OOC: Sorry AMF, hate to burst your bubble, but I have to disagree with you to an extent. All role-players on this site, often base their role-plays off real-life incidents and figures, to varying degree. An example from early to mid 2006, was a role-play done by Ottoman Khaif and Azazia, which initially, was modelled off the real life Prophet Muhammad cartoon controversy which originated in the Netherlands...]


OOC: Sorry, you're wrong and here's why.

You didn't read what the author wrote closely enough. His intentions were clear when he posted this thread, and I quote: "I propose that the residents of this forum refrain from posting any violent, war-like posts or threads on 4/16 from now into perpetuity." This goes above and beyond simply basing your nation off of real life events or incorporating them, this author explicitly said that he wishes for all RP'ers to not write any violent posts on 4-16.

This is wrong and unacceptable in a free form community, and trying to enforce or even suggest that we OOCly refrain from writing about certain IC things on certain days infringes upon NS's RP etiquette. If we take him up on his offer, then I propose we neither write nor post any violent threads/replies on any tragic day in history, which would limit the number of days you can RP to....probably zero.

OOC: Sorry, you're wrong and here's why.

You didn't read what the author wrote closely enough. His intentions were clear when he posted this thread, and I quote: "I propose that the residents of this forum refrain from posting any violent, war-like posts or threads on 4/16 from now into perpetuity." This goes above and beyond simply basing your nation off of real life events or incorporating them, this author explicitly said that he wishes for all RP'ers to not write any violent posts on 4-16.

This is wrong and unacceptable in a free form community, and trying to enforce or even suggest that we OOCly refrain from writing about certain IC things on certain days infringes upon NS's RP etiquette. If we take him up on his offer, then I propose we neither write nor post any violent threads/replies on any tragic day in history, which would limit the number of days you can RP to....probably zero.

Looking at it, AMF...I think you're right. If we were to refrain from posting bloody, violent, or otherwise non-peaceful content in these forums on days in history seen as being tragic...we couldn't really post anything violent in these forums at all.

Yea, sorry, the actions of one nutcase will not be able to influence my ability to post what I want.

OOC: Sorry, you're wrong and here's why.

You didn't read what the author wrote closely enough. His intentions were clear when he posted this thread, and I quote: "I propose that the residents of this forum refrain from posting any violent, war-like posts or threads on 4/16 from now into perpetuity." This goes above and beyond simply basing your nation off of real life events or incorporating them, this author explicitly said that he wishes for all RP'ers to not write any violent posts on 4-16.

This is wrong and unacceptable in a free form community, and trying to enforce or even suggest that we OOCly refrain from writing about certain IC things on certain days infringes upon NS's RP etiquette. If we take him up on his offer, then I propose we neither write nor post any violent threads/replies on any tragic day in history, which would limit the number of days you can RP to....probably zero.
[OOC: I see. I stand corrected.]

You know what OP, I would totally agree with you, that it would be good and respect ful to not type about war and gore and mass scale genocides..except for one insee tinsee tiny little problem. Killing.. large scale murders.. genocides if you will.. concentration camps and gulags.. it goes on every single day all around the world.

Darfur..
Sudan..
Iraq..
Chechnya..
All over Africa..

You get the point. I my opinion giving a moment of respect, in this way is an insult to all the other people who died totally unsung. Those deaths glorified by the media do not count any more or less than those left in the shadows.

But I respect where your coming from. And since it seems none of my rp buddies have posted yet there's a good chance I won't type about any international forays for the remainder of today.

OOC: Sorry, you're wrong and here's why.

You didn't read what the author wrote closely enough. His intentions were clear when he posted this thread, and I quote: "I propose that the residents of this forum refrain from posting any violent, war-like posts or threads on 4/16 from now into perpetuity." This goes above and beyond simply basing your nation off of real life events or incorporating them, this author explicitly said that he wishes for all RP'ers to not write any violent posts on 4-16.

This is wrong and unacceptable in a free form community, and trying to enforce or even suggest that we OOCly refrain from writing about certain IC things on certain days infringes upon NS's RP etiquette. If we take him up on his offer, then I propose we neither write nor post any violent threads/replies on any tragic day in history, which would limit the number of days you can RP to....probably zero.

Correct. I'm going to back AMF's reasoning with a thread closure. Sorry, Buristan. Make your plea in the General forum if you want, but not here.