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This is about the Wing wars. The Wing wars are going to be a series of giant wars with left wing vs. moderates vs right wing. Basically a three way war. I have questions of discussion, I have answers to the questions but I'd still like outside input.

A) How would a war like this ICly start? I'm thinking something more along the lines of how WWI started.

B) How should the alliances form? I think the liberals should syndicate and the communists should syndicate creating two alliances that are friendly with each other. The same should go for fascists and conservatives. The moderates are neutrals who syndicate because they're tired of being bullied by the other four factions.

C) Anything else this war would need to keep from burning out.

Remember this is a crusade to spread ideologies. The objective of this war is to convert everyone to your own belief. It is possible if you are left or right to join the moderates if your nation is the kind that respects free will and values every nation's sovereignty.

Communist nations-

Socialist States Union
Marxikhan
Zambistan

Left nations-

Liberal Men and Women
Brydog

Right Nations-

Errikland

Fascist Nations-

Shakal
Vetalia
Toops
Kraigel's states (parts of South Lizasauria)
Calizorinstan

Moderate Nations/nations who respect sovereignty and wish to stop imperialism-

South Lizasauria
Alutia
Tyrrena
Wesmerica

Calizorinstan will signup for the right wing faction.

OOC: It would probably start by agression from either the Communist faction or the Facsict faction wanting the whole world to be enveloped in their ideology be it force, or peacefully , they probably wouldn't care the slightest how to spread it.

Calizorinstan will signup for the right wing faction.

OOC: It would probably start by agression from either the Communist faction or the Facsict faction wanting the whole world to be enveloped in their ideology be it force, or peacefully , they probably wouldn't care the slightest how to spread it.

Thats good, lets have it where things start out peaceful with speakers trying to indoctrinate everyone and a powerful speaker who is also a government leader or noble and/or royal blood gets assassinated sparking war.

Lets have the right and fascsists move forward, invade a neatral nation in order to spread their beliefs, the left use this as an excuse for war but after they liberate the invaded nation they begin trying to indoctrinate everyone, they begin going overboard always referring to the invasion as and using it to justify their actions even though they are going overboard, as both the lefties and righties fight savagely the moderate nations are getting occupied, sick and tired of oppression and having their citizens brainwashed or imperialised the moderates go on a crusade to destroy all the wackjob extremists everywhere who want to force their beleifs on others to ensure that nothing like this happens again.

Sound good? :)

Sounds like a great idea, like an expansion of my original, although I probably don't want to be a nation that invades, because I am unsure of how I would fare in an invasion.

Sounds like a great idea, like an expansion of my original, although I probably don't want to be a nation that invades, because I am unsure of how I would fare in an invasion.

I'm waiting for more to join so another fascist nation can do it. Then it'll escalate due to my idea of a royal assignation.

bump

I'll join in on the left wing side.

As to the points:
A) I agree with Calizornistan. An imperialist fascist attacks another side, or the Commies try to "assist" the communist revolutions of another country (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
B) I agree w/ the sides, but there'll definitely be tensions, such as once one side wins it'll start infighting.
C) What I have under point B, and the caliber of the RPing

Beyond that, it's interesting to note just how outclassed Calizornistan and I are by you, South Lizasauria. I have 50 mil, Cali has 69 mil, you have 2+ bil. Just a bit of a difference.

I'll join in on the left wing side.

As to the points:
A) I agree with Calizornistan. An imperialist fascist attacks another side, or the Commies try to "assist" the communist revolutions of another country (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
B) I agree w/ the sides, but there'll definitely be tensions, such as once one side wins it'll start infighting.
C) What I have under point B, and the caliber of the RPing

Beyond that, it's interesting to note just how outclassed Calizornistan and I are by you, South Lizasauria. I have 50 mil, Cali has 69 mil, you have 2+ bil. Just a bit of a difference.

my forces are ICly occupied with preventing revolutions and eying on other enemies, besides I'm on the side that'll have the least nations defending it so it's me vs many people.

my forces are ICly occupied with preventing revolutions and eying on other enemies, besides I'm on the side that'll have the least nations defending it so it's me vs many people.

I knew you'd try to keep it fair because you want to keep it going (else you wouldn't have asked how), I just found the size of the gap impressive.

OOC: I'll join as left-wing.

OOC: Ok. Just a little portion.

OOC: To make things fair due to South Lizasauria defending borders and dealing with other stuff only a portion of troops can be sent to fight this war while the rest keep other imperialist out of their land.

As a note, I meant I'll join on the left side, not Communist. My country is an interesting blend of laissez-faire capitalism and socialism, but still capitalist none the less.

OOC: Ah hell. I'm 100% Pure Home-Made Socialism :p

OOC: I'd be interested. My nation tends to be pretty Libertarian, however I think it likely that I'd fall under the nuetral nations in such a conflict.

Now lets discuss alliance names.

Communism=Red States
Liberalism=Progressive Coalition
Conservative=Alliance of Antediluvian Nations
Moderates/people who believe in sovereignty=Enlightened Union of the Oppressed States

Are the names for the fascists and communists good enough?

Yes, they are to me I think it sounds good.

Communism and Fascist names sound good.

I don't think the moderates need a name, they are just fighting to stop the others, but not necessarily in a unified fashion.

Liberals: Union of Liberal States, or some such thing

Conservatives: Nationalists Coalition

I've never been good at naming things. Another option would be naming after a place, fictional or not.

Communism and Fascist names sound good.

I don't think the moderates need a name, they are just fighting to stop the others, but not necessarily in a unified fashion.

Liberals: Union of Liberal States, or some such thing

Conservatives: Nationalists Coalition

I've never been good at naming things. Another option would be naming after a place, fictional or not.

How about the Enlightened Union of the oppressed states for the moderates?

That's a pretty mighty name you have for yourself there. But I'm fine with it all the same.

Where would a libertarian nation that believes heavily in the free market while at the same time heavily supports civil rights fit into all of this?

OOC: Conservatives

Depends:


If you believe foremost in civil/political freedoms/rights, then the liberals would be a good fit
If you believe foremost in the tenets of capitalism, then the conservatives are your band
If you believe foremost that all should follow your way of life, then the fascists are for you
If you believe foremost that Communism is the future of the world, and wish to spread it's ideals, then the Communist faction is for you.
If you believe foremost in the rights of sovereign nations, or you can't choose just one, then the moderates are your people


That's my opinions. Disagree if you will.

Hey, mind if I join, I RP as Orcs and Gobbos (yes, even in MT) so if that's a problem I don't mind stepping out, but if so WAAAGH!!! :P

Oh also, if I am allowed, sort of right wing, more Psychotic Dictatorship really)

I have no real problem with it, as long as you don't wank it, but it's not up to me, it's up to SL.

Also, I think that psychotic dictatorship more fits to the fascist than the conservatives, what with the PSYCHOTIC thing and all.

Also, I think that psychotic dictatorship more fits to the fascist than the conservatives, what with the PSYCHOTIC thing and all.

Haha, dat true, but it's not like the normal Fascist, y'know with the Ethnic cleansing, hatredy and other stuff, it's Psychotic in the sense that they're all clinically Psychotic.

Also, I don't intend to Wank but some of the stuff I use may be construed as such, the basic prinicple of Orky tech is that there's stuff in there that shouldn't work but does, due to the power of the WAAAGH! But i'll try not to use stuff that gives me a massivly outweighed advantage.

Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests inferior to the needs of the state, and seeks to forge a type of national unity, usually based on ethnic, religious, cultural, or racial attributes.

(Gotta love wikipedia)

If your nation is "Orcs and Gobbos," that would be a racial unity.

I'm fine as long as it's not like, "My orcs have skin so thick that it take 10 megaton nuclear blasts for them to feel anything." I'm even more fine with it if you balance it, ex: they can take a few .50 cal hits, but are too stupid to pick up a gun and shoot it without hurting themselves.

OOC: Conservatives

Are you switching to the conservative side? :confused:

Where would a libertarian nation that believes heavily in the free market while at the same time heavily supports civil rights fit into all of this?

I believe he was answering this guy.

(Gotta love wikipedia)

If your nation is "Orcs and Gobbos," that would be a racial unity.

I'm fine as long as it's not like, "My orcs have skin so thick that it take 10 megaton nuclear blasts for them to feel anything." I'm even more fine with it if you balance it, ex: they can take a few .50 cal hits, but are too stupid to pick up a gun and shoot it without hurting themselves.

If ye'd like, here's a list of my balancing

Advantages:
Strong in Close Combat
Fungal Spores Released (this may be considered waaaay wanky, essentially every Ork releases a spore which grows into an incubating fungi for more Orks, so even after an invasion has failed and the Orks long gone the inhabitants can still face a massive Feral force)
WAAAGH Tech

Disadvantages:
Extremely Poor Accuracy
Massive Internal Tribal Warfare
Poor Tactical Mind

There's other stuff which is too knitty to talk about here, but that's the essential balance of the Orks.

For the sake of balance lets have a portion of my Allied states join the Fascist dominion because of the Kraigel (kinda like Hitler only South Lizasaurian) He splits up some states and makes them fascsist while the current chancellor stays in charge of the rest making it so South Lizasaurians are on both the Right and Moderate sides making somewhat of a civil war.

OOC: I'll join at any side, and I wasn't changing side. Put me where you want.

I think the idea of a civil war sounds cool, but it should happen part way through, not at the very beginning, as though the guy was angry at the way their leader was running the war and so off he went.

In the beginning he'll be trying to convince the chancellor to do things his way, then shortly after the beginning he starts causing trouble then partway he causes a temporary split. Ok? :)

Sounds like good clean family fun.

Now lets discuss alliance names.

Communism=Red States
Liberalism=(need to discuss)
Fascist=Fascist Dominion
Conservative(need to discuss)
Moderates/people who believe in sovereignty=Enlightened Union of the Oppressed States

Are the names for the fascists and communists good enough?

What should conservatism and liberalism be called? :confused:

...

Liberals: Union of Liberal States, or some such thing

Conservatives: Nationalists Coalition

...

Another option would be naming after a place, fictional or not.

That's the best I've got.

What should conservatism and liberalism be called? :confused:

Just put whatever you want! Names don't matter.

OOC: I still don't know which side I'm on?

OOC: I still don't know which side I'm on?

You on liberalism's side.

We need people on the right wingers and communist's side. I'll try to see if I can get the people ICly involved in major anti-commie movements here making this an even bigger war. ;)

OOC: You sure? I'm 100% Socialism.

OOC: Isn't socialism left wing though? :confused:

OOC: You sure? I'm 100% Socialism.

To Lizasauria:
Not necessarily. Socialism is economic, liberalism is political. "100% socialism" is communism. So perhaps we have a Commie in our midst.

Not necessarily. Socialism is economic, liberalism is political. "10% socialism" is communism. So perhaps we have a Commie in our midst.

Damn, I was taught in school that socialism is all left wing and that if it isn't it HAS to be nazism. :confused: I'm not communist, I oppose and disagree with them and I resent them because of the fundies that tried to nail Christian communism in my head.

OOC: I prefer Communist.

OOC: I prefer Communist.

Okily dokily. :)

It's not a line with left at one, right at the other.

It's two lines.
One political/civil: left/right (libertarian/authoritarian) or (liberal/fascist) in this IMO
The other economic: left/right (Communist/Capitalist) or (Communist/Conservative) in this IMO

At least that's how I simplify things, in reality, there could be many number of lines. People don't conform neatly.

The ironic thing is that throughout history, Communist countries are more authoritarian than capitalist countries.

It's not a line with left at one, right at the other.

It's two lines.
One political/civil: left/right (libertarian/authoritarian) or (liberal/fascist) in this IMO
The other economic: left/right (Communist/Capitalist) or (Communist/Conservative) in this IMO

At least that's how I simplify things, in reality, there could be many number of lines. People don't conform neatly.

The ironic thing is that throughout history, Communist countries are more authoritarian than capitalist countries.

That is a major simplification, but relatively accurate.

Of course, "liberal" and "conservative" are entirely relative terms.

EDIT: As for the last part, I do not think it is really ironic; systems which put greatest emphasis on the society at the expense of the individual have always winded up with an emphasis on the state at the expense of all.

That is a major simplification, but relatively accurate.

Of course, "liberal" and "conservative" are entirely relative terms.

Which side would you like to join?
:)

Which side would you like to join?
:)

Probably right, being my disgust with all of the other sides.

No I meant ironic in that most people classify communism as liberal and capitalism as conservative, at least in the US.

I know it's a simplification, and I stated as much.

Everything is relative, including our existence.

Ok now that there are people on each side how, in a detailed way should the war break out? Remember it go along the lines of the less elaborate way the war starts that we agreed on.

Most likely, Toops invades a left nation (probably me), while looking for more space. I call in Socialist States Union for help, and so forth, until the two moderates step in to pry us apart, and the other two sides turn on them. It's all up to Toops (because Calizornistan chooses not to invade, and Socialist doesn't seem like he'd be a first strike person). Mmm, escalation...

No I meant ironic in that most people classify communism as liberal and capitalism as conservative, at least in the US.

I know it's a simplification, and I stated as much.

Everything is relative, including our existence.

Well I believe that that association is due to the fact that communism is economically oppressive, or statist, which is associated with post-Classical Liberalism, and there was never a European-style conservatism in the US, which was based on Classical Liberalism, which them became American conservatism. When I noted that it was relative, I was noting that it was incredibly relative, as in more so than all else.

Thats good, lets have it where things start out peaceful with speakers trying to indoctrinate everyone and a powerful speaker who is also a government leader or noble and/or royal blood gets assassinated sparking war.

Lets have the right and fascsists move forward, invade a neatral nation in order to spread their beliefs, the left use this as an excuse for war but after they liberate the invaded nation they begin trying to indoctrinate everyone, they begin going overboard always referring to the invasion as and using it to justify their actions even though they are going overboard, as both the lefties and righties fight savagely the moderate nations are getting occupied, sick and tired of oppression and having their citizens brainwashed or imperialised the moderates go on a crusade to destroy all the wackjob extremists everywhere who want to force their beleifs on others to ensure that nothing like this happens again.

Sound good? :)

This is going to be a little WWIish, its going to be a powder keg of alliances.

Prior to what happens below people are just trying to indoctrinate people via speakers and propaganda. An anti brainwash moderate who had his wife brainwashed by a left wing cult while on vacation and his son brainwashed by the right wing group under Kraigel, he hated brainwash just as much as early South Lizasuarians did, inf fact being a hardcore patriot and taking into consideration how South Lizasaurians hated brainwash this also fuels the fire on top of the fact that his family were reduced to mindless drones, he assainated the strong speaker even though he held an important role in office, he was later caught by gov. (the speaker has to be important or of nobility/royalty in anther fascsit nation having a speech (authorised by Kraigel) on South Lizasaurian soil. The state in which he was assinated was a moderate one, Kraigel's men tried to take it through sectarian violence but failed, he then pulled everyone out and told his ally nation who lost their man that they can take revenge.

Basically someone whose fascist and imperialistic attacks a moderate nation (one of my states) and invades it, the left wing and the communists make a pact to liberate them , this angers the righties causing more escalation, South Lizasauria having some states join the Fascist dominion fer invasion or revolution especially since the revolutionaiire is of the likes of Adolf Hitler. Eventually due to South Lizasaurian mode rate's hatred for brainwash they declare that the Kraigal caused this and that all his supporters are an enemy of the empire thus causing the split, and their hatred for brainwash make South Lizasauria react to the invasion and illegal claims of their land with brutality.Eventually tired of fighting the moderates decide to fight back and wage war on ALL nations who are imperialistic and extremist who want to shove their beleifs down everyone's throat.

sound good? :)

Most likely, Toops invades a left nation (probably me), while looking for more space. I call in Socialist States Union for help, and so forth, until the two moderates step in to pry us apart, and the other two sides turn on them. It's all up to Toops (because Calizornistan chooses not to invade, and Socialist doesn't seem like he'd be a first strike person). Mmm, escalation...

I agree with this, but it wouldn't be for space, it'd be for WAAAGH!!! :P

Sounds to me like we've got a plan for action!

So who wants to be the nation who has their valued and important leader shot during his stay in one of my states?

OOC: tell me when to start RPing.

I agree with this, but it wouldn't be for space, it'd be for WAAAGH!!! :P

Umm... Okay... I'm just gonna go over there for a while, and not call the insane asylum. Nope, no one here's calling the insane asylum.

Umm... Okay... I'm just gonna go over there for a while, and not call the insane asylum. Nope, no one here's calling the insane asylum.

Haha, I'm not crazy, everyone else is :P

So who wants to be the nation who has their valued and important leader shot during his stay in one of my states?

OOC: I'll be.

OOC: I'll be.

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OOC: i don't really want to do another rp, just want to say that it would be the right wing that would be the root of it, the corporations that they so wish to protect gain too much power, and the exploited workers hold a strike, and the corporations break it. this pisses everybody off, and the war begins.

Just because I'm crazy doesn't make my point any less valid.

And, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get me.

So who wants to be the nation who has their valued and important leader shot during his stay in one of my states?

I can offer you not my leader, but a former president. The former first president, and current minister of education, who has negotiated the end to a war in which the Confederacy was neutral (this didn't happen in RP, but is part of the backstory). A great hero of the confederacy who made the nation what it is today.

Just because I'm crazy doesn't make my point any less valid.

And, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get me.

*puts a tin pot on his head and grabs a wooden spoon*

LALALALAlalalala

Yeah I'm crazy, but you didn't need to say anything :P

Anyways back on topic, I could offer one of my various Ork Warbosses, probably the Blood Axes, they'd be the only ones who would stoop as low as diplomacy.

*puts a tin pot on his head and grabs a wooden spoon*

LALALALAlalalala

Yeah I'm crazy, but you didn't need to say anything :P

Anyways back on topic, I could offer one of my various Ork Warbosses, probably the Blood Axes, they'd be the only ones who would stoop as low as diplomacy.

I can offer you not my leader, but a former president. The former first president, and current minister of education, who has negotiated the end to a war in which the Confederacy was neutral (this didn't happen in RP, but is part of the backstory). A great hero of the confederacy who made the nation what it is today.

OOC: I'll be.

Why not all three?

Why not all three?

YEAH!

I will join the Liberal side.

I'll be a moderate- Down with Imperialism!

However, my nation jumps in and out of Democratic socialism- So we'll be moderate for now but might switch later on.

Alright, I'm joining this thing. Vetalia will align itself with the fascists, since we espouse a techno-fascist culture and government and our progress hinges on retaining strong government control of opponents to our goals as a civilization. In order to progress as a species, we must expand the goals of the Grand Evolution to the entire world.

OOC: What tech level are we looking at? I just need to know for structuring my military and retooling my culture to reflect an earlier era in our history.

OOC: Let's start this crap fast.

OOC: What tech level are we looking at? I just need to know for structuring my military and retooling my culture to reflect an earlier era in our history.

MT as far as I know.

OOC: Let's start this crap fast.

Unfortunately SL is offline at the moment.

MT as far as I know.

Okay, thanks.

MT as far as I know.



Unfortunately SL is offline at the moment.


Damnit, well let's wait for tomorrow then.

Well he seems to be online now, so let's see what he says...

Ok, let's wait.

I'm back, should the conservatives and fascists being different alliances be allied with each other while remaining separate organizations?

Which tech would this best be a big war on?

MT FT or any tech from PMT-FT?

MT. With the others it becomes too easy to just pull stuff out of the air and say I've had this for years. With MT we know what's possible, and what's not. For the most part anyway...

MT FT or any tech from PMT-FT?

Well, Vetalia is typically a FT civilization (Cybernetic Empire of Vetalia), but an MT RP would be good because it could fill in some of my country's background and explain a lot of how it came to be in its current form. So, for my own personal continuity reasons, I would like an MT RP, or perhaps a slightly more futuristic setting (to include things like early bionics/cybernetic implants, which are an integral part of our culture) for this war.

Here's the RP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524789)

I'm back, should the conservatives and fascists being different alliances be allied with each other while remaining separate organizations?

Well, I don't know. The thing is, fascism and conservatism as styled in this scenario would probably clash; I know for a fact that pretty much any morally conservative nation will see my country's pursuit of science and technology at all costs as unethical and immoral, and they would likely see the fascists' militarism as a threat to their own goals.

However, they might side with us in a lesser of two evils scenario, for example, where the only other alternative is defeat.

Well, Vetalia is typically a FT civilization (Cybernetic Empire of Vetalia), but an MT RP would be good because it could fill in some of my country's background and explain a lot of how it came to be in its current form. So, for my own personal continuity reasons, I would like an MT RP, or perhaps a slightly more futuristic setting (to include things like early bionics/cybernetic implants, which are an integral part of our culture) for this war.

Maybe FT as in 2020 tech or something would work.

Maybe FT as in 2020 tech or something would work.

That would probably be good. Somewhere between 2007-2020, in other words the late MT or early FT timeframe.

I would like to join the moderates. I see myself a little leftist and a little right. Also I would like to explain how my country with many political freedoms allowed communism to thrive unrestrained and eventually turn on its progenitor plauging my country with fear and suspicion

Welcome aboard Wesmerica. :)

Maybe FT as in 2020 tech or something would work.

Works for me. Explains the older F-4 copies being phased out, and makes the gauss weapons I use (which are entirely possible now) all the more believable.

I'm back, should the conservatives and fascists being different alliances be allied with each other while remaining separate organizations?

My people would be very hesitant to make such an alliance. While we regard fascism's nationalism and militarism with respect, and find its anti-communism most admirable, its oppressive statism is the exact opposite of what we regard as proper (oddly my people's sentiments mirror my own ;) ).

hello all, i would like to join this wing war, i will take the Communist side


My nation is the People's Republic of Marxikhan

hello all, i would like to join this wing war, i will take the Communist side


My nation is the People's Republic of Marxikhan

Welcome aboard:)

My Nation is PMT, in the sense that we use Gauss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_gun) Weaponry and Orbital drops. If that's not allowed, I can limit or not use orbital drops but I can't cut the Gauss weaponry, or else I'll have to develop a whole new arsenal.

Gauss is okay (I use it too, but first gen simple stuff), because it is more than possible right now, if not necessarily used en masse, or cheaper than standard. Rail guns, are fine if done right (one time use rails), but that doesn't mean anything for you. Orbital drops, not so much fine...

See THIS (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520329) Thread for my military information.

Seet THIS NSWiki section (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Liberal_Men_and_Women#Unified_Defense_Front_of_the_Confederacy_of_Liberal_Men_and_Women_.28UDFCLMW.2 9) for my military.

I'd like to sign up on the communist side, though we will be spreading the Revolutionary Nationalist Ideal. I'll be sending mostly guerillas.

I'd like to sign up on the communist side, though we will be spreading the Revolutionary Nationalist Ideal. I'll be sending mostly guerillas.

All signed up. :)

Well, my nation is pretty deeply rooted in PMT. However, this could be considered very feasible on such a plane when considered to other nations. Firstly, my entire military represents around .2% of my total population, as well as having a massive economy and large defense budget, meaning enormous amounts of funds being appropriated for R&D and also incredibly expensive equipment being applicable across the entirety of my military. Also, my nation is centered around scietific development to the point that it tends to far outstrip other nations in technological developments. Now most people hear this and flip out at how rediculously unfair they find it, so I'll detail more of how this actually works.

This translates into my nation being incredibly proficient in small scale operations and nearly undefeatable when presented with similar opposing forces. On the flip side, it means that my ground forces rely nearly exclusively on asymetric warfare and are incredibly reliant on air or orbital support on pretty much any major operation. It also means that my army on it's own is nearly incapable of sustaining any sort of attrition warfare, and if bogged down in heavy combat by superior forces without the supporting fire it relies upon, it will undoubtedly lose.

Id like to join this if I could. Now please correct me after reading this basic government description if im on the wrong side.

Im torn between sides. My country is a dictatorship, but the people can vote for elected officials that pass laws and such. The thing is that the Emperess doesnt need the peoples approval for anything. The government is VERY imperialist and the military is well respected and well used. Granted dropping an atomic bomb on a population center would get the Empress killed...

Also, My economy is almost totally free with the exception of a few state run busnesses like the Imperial Naval Yards or the Railways...

I think ill take the fascist side.
This (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Shakal_Military) thread is for my military info.

Id like to join this if I could. Now please correct me after reading this basic government description if im on the wrong side.

Im torn between sides. My country is a dictatorship, but the people can vote for elected officials that pass laws and such. The thing is that the Emperess doesnt need the peoples approval for anything. The government is VERY imperialist and the military is well respected and well used. Granted dropping an atomic bomb on a population center would get the Empress killed...

Also, My economy is almost totally free with the exception of a few state run busnesses like the Imperial Naval Yards or the Railways...

I think ill take the fascist side.
This thread is for my military info.

Done.

Id like to join this if I could. Now please correct me after reading this basic government description if im on the wrong side.

Im torn between sides. My country is a dictatorship, but the people can vote for elected officials that pass laws and such. The thing is that the Emperess doesnt need the peoples approval for anything. The government is VERY imperialist and the military is well respected and well used. Granted dropping an atomic bomb on a population center would get the Empress killed...

Also, My economy is almost totally free with the exception of a few state run busnesses like the Imperial Naval Yards or the Railways...

I think ill take the fascist side.
This (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Shakal_Military) thread is for my military info.

Fascist is good if you're out to conquer. Conservative is good if not.

can i join yon RP??

Guys, it appears as though SL has been grounded, so either we'll have to put this on hold, or figure somewhere else to have things happen.

A question: Will these wars take place on a separate forum or on these boards?

It's on these boards. Here's the link. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524789)

I'll join as a Conservative Moderate if that's alright. What's the technological level? I noticed Alutia is here and we both use futuristic technology...at least last I dealt with Alutia he was futuretech.

I'll join as a Conservative Moderate if that's alright. What's the technological level? I noticed Alutia is here and we both use futuristic technology...at least last I dealt with Alutia he was futuretech.

I thought it was MT, or maybe MT/PMT.

I thought it was MT, or maybe MT/PMT.

Uh oh...ok, may'be we should get this settled before people start shooting at each other! :P

The way I roleplay my "FT" is pretty benign anyway...the Aumanii Military functions alot like a modern one, so it should be pretty easy to avoid any hurt feelings on account of superior technology. Earth is a far flung outpost anyway, so I doubt frontline units would be deployed out that far.

And even then, Future Tech doesn't necessarily win hands down against their modern counterparts...FT just has a few more tricks up their sleeve is all.

Maybe FT as in 2020 tech or something would work.

There's the time frame, so it's slightly PMT.

So we doin' this?

The Armed Republic of the Toori wishes to make an ambassadorial agreement with South Lizasauria. We are being spread dangerously thin throughout the galaxy, and need to concentrate, and establish a heavy Toori presence on Earth. We also feel that our presence may bring these disputes to a close faster. There for, we are requesting permission to establish military bases, and villages through out the Reconisance Island keys. Do you accept?