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Ok... I don't have much in the way of history for my nation. SO I am in need of some history making events. I know many of you out there would be willing to take me in a heart beat, but I have Some parameters that must be met.

1. I wont a long war to ensue before my inevitable defeat.
or about 10 pages long of pure RP and minimal OOC.

2. I don't want nuclear death in every post. Bio and Chem are ok. but no

" I send 300000 Bio weapons and kill you people!" ... this will not fly. If you wish to do this you must present reasons why you have this much weapon and it must be convincing!

3. The RP should not end with my being defeated... It should continue even into your maintaing control....


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Yeah, I can do that, but i do have about 2.5 billion people, not sure what your pop is...

But If we fight, i won't use that many. What time period is this?

*waves*

Maybe..I've been looking for an excuse to test out some of my new stuff...:)

Can we use Tac "Clean" Nukes, Fuel Air bombs and Napalm the crap out of you? and how do you feel about nuetron bombs and EMP warheads etc?

... I have 100 mill.... And its PMT to MT

... I have 100 mill.... And its PMT to MT

Well if you wanted to start a war with mel your best bet would be a terrorist attack on something big and important as it would automatically invoke my protectionist doctrine and no questions full scale war. (my senate don't like going to war)

can more than 2 people be in this?

Here I go. Look me up - highly militant imperialist nation with a huge military budget - surely what you're looking for.

dont listen to them, i asked first...

Choose me or i bring out the gunge!

:gundge:

dont listen to them, i asked first...

Choose me or i bring out the gunge!

:gundge:

well if he allows more than one we can sorta make his nation a colony spilitting it between us. muhahaha

well if he allows more than one we can sorta make his nation a colony spilitting it between us. muhahaha

I call dibs on the uranium!

Let me start by saying that if you pick me as your colonial master, the invasion will be quick. Military RP is neither my forte nor interest. Most of the ten pages will be filled with my brutal occupation and your futile resistance. Your suffering does not end with an ignominious defeat, that is when it begins. After the Publicly Traded Democracy of McCountry makes your nation one of it's holdings, The Enforcer Corporation will make sure that your human resources will be squeezed for every ounce of surplus value that they have. If you want 10 pages of dull troop movements and tech-wank, pick someone else. But if you want quality oppression, choose McCountry. McCountry: Over 6.75 billion oppressed.

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Or if you want both a long war and the best oppression that money can buy, you can have the country that invades you sell McCountry a 100 year lease on your country or some such.

I would prefer to have WMD use to a minimal...

and I wasn't planning on starting the war.... so I need a strike first nation to begin.

I would be interested in a war, but unfortunately it has been a long time since I upgraded my military from when it was nearly non-existant. I have been pouring a lot of funds into my military lately, and I was wondering if oyu would like to fall victim to one of my suppresionary teams. If you have a small to medium size group in your nation that opposes the government, I could send a suppresionary team to help "advise" them. What this would entail is mostly geurilla warfare/ insurgency type combat until your country is sufficently weakened for my primary forces to enter and pick up the pieces.

Interested?

Sheeeesh, a strike first nation? I try to bait people into striking me first and to have enough witnesses to see it so that no one questions my being justified in my retaliatory/counter-strike. :D

Pick me. Believe me, it will be a fun war, and it will give you soem great backround.

Ok Saip and Black helm are my top picks as of now....


Saip is pulling ahead though.

Black helm could you explain how you would invade me please?

ok I'm interested... maybe I'll help your forces? But just some advisory cautions... your discussing 4GW (fourth generation of warfare) for your forces... a prolonged (decades or longer) insurgent war... against 3GW forces on their side... its not going to work to your inevietable defeat. 4GW forces opposing 3GW forces always fight.. its like their playing chess and your playing poker.. its impossible for them to win... points in case: China 1948-49
Vietnam, Iraq, French Vietnam, British Palestine, etc etc...

Saip is pulling ahead though.


If you want a complete first strike nation, Blackhelm should be your choice, plus he has much better stats on hardware and the like (if I remember correctly).

My nation is a little more politically sensitive. Like I said, we would probably send several suppresionary teams to empower whatever anti-government groups you have, while performing more intelligence/assasination type operations. With me, there would not be much standard type combat until later on.

Oh, and while I don't plan on using WMDs often, I hope you aren't too squeamish about civilian deaths.

EDIT: With me, you also get the whole "we have no interest in that region/all allegations are false" thing.

It is possible.... I dont have numbers. I have a smaller military with higher tech... It could easily be overwhelmed or over powered by lower tech. at best I have about 500,000 usable military personnel. I have 500,000 combat personnel and about 200,000 civilian operators to my military. SO logistics is controled by the civilian side. A definite weakness.

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And no Saip I am not against civilian deaths... I am hoping for alot!

Plus I like the whole Supression Idea... OK... I pick Siap to inavde me... BlackHelm can assist if he wishes.

In most history their isn't only enemies there is allies too so if you wish to have your nation colonized you should at least try to fight back I am only saying this not because I want to become your ally I just want to protect it so I can colonize it. I will bring a long war and it will end in many casualties and if i win against the other 2 nations you won't be treated crapily you will become a storage area for trade and the other 2 nations may share in colonizing it. it will be split into provinces and each province I own will be named in memory of you're nation and mine

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And no Saip I am not against civilian deaths... I am hoping for alot!

Plus I like the whole Supression Idea... OK... I pick Siap to inavde me... BlackHelm can assist if he wishes.

What sort of anti-government groups do you have? We should probably start this off with a meeting between one of the leaders of the anti-government group and a Siapian operative.

EDIT: Want to create an offsite thread for the meeting of our agents?

Oh, this is too perfect! I was going to post my own thread about looking for a war. I would just like to know a few things about your nation, even though this thread is to develop it:

1. What is your government? i.e. Monarchy, Republic, Corporate Ruled State, Religously Ruled, etc.

2. What is your environment? i.e. Land locked tundra, tropical island, coastal desert, rainforest, etc.

3. What is your military like? i.e. Peacekeeping force, invading army of evil, underfunded and undermanned, overfunded and drafted, great strategists and generals, horrible leadership etc. Also, is the army well liked? i.e. Militant populace or race of pacifists?

4. Would you have in mind any particularly strong reason for intervention, like human rights violations, terrorist strongpoints, tinpot dictatorship, undeniably valuable resources with a small army to protect them, civil war, or a government unable to protect its people?

To preempt it being asked, here is how I would probably begin:

Phase One: Strategic Bombing, of targets like military bases and production facilities. There would be stealth bombers and strike bombers used with non-nuclear/biological/chemical (Those will be a last resort.) loads. I have several real and fictional bombers (Bought from storefronts) at my disposal. Of course, some would be shot down, but depending on what you want your air defense to be, the number would vary so the strikes could be devastating or hardly successful. Naval ships would also be heavily targeted, with bomber raids heading out every few hours to strike and eliminate them.

Phase Two: Beggining Strikes. Air force planes would drop in loads of Marines and other elite soldiers to clear beachfronts quickly and capture ports. As soon as small areas had been cleared, naval ships would move in (they would be moved towards the nation as the invasion begins) and release more and more landing forces through landing craft. Once significant coastal areas (if any) have been captured, the ships would move into the waters very tightly and begin to circle around the areas they are in.

Phase Three: Main Invasion. Carried armies would leave and begin to head towards the center of the nation. Cities would be attacked and occupied first so as not to give the defenders time to make them hellish fortresses and take advantage of their local knowledge. Infantry would make their way through supported by helicopters and Land Warrior. Some tanks would be used, but not many as they are too easy targets. Propaganda would also be used to convince citizens of the faults of the former government and the upsides of Fornelian rule. To take out enemy ground forces, naval artillary and land artillary would be used, although many would be captured if possible. In addition, the potent Fornelian Air Force would work with the Fornelian Navy to destroy enemy air power and remaining naval power.

That's about all I have right now. I don't want to make this too long and miss out on whatever replies have been made.

EDIT:

Dang! This is what I hate! I try to type up something long and detailed, and end up missing a shorter reply that beats me!

Well. I will always need allies. As my military is smaller then most it will not be able to police the whole nation.

Siap and Kasara: My Government is based on a Religious group, and atheist and an Anarchist group. Each group elects an master and the masters of each group makes up the Trisic Council. Although Many want a more centralized form of government many people have accepted this form and have prospered from it. But lately a lot of Anarchist groups have been becoming more and more unruly and have become increasingly aggressive.

Siap had a period of anarchism for a long time, so that would probably give the anarchists some leverage with The Council. Would you prefer to meet with a Siapian government agent in Siap or in your own nation?

I could have it where the master of the Anarchist group meets in your nation as a " Diplomatic meeting".

so amy i join in killing you after i am done defending

This is merely a question, but wouldn't an organized anarchist group be defeating their purpose?

More to the point, I would have loved to join in, but my nation is small (45 million) and have recently undergone military budget cuts, by which I mean total cuts...

Ok. I'll create a thread with a little background story for bringing the anarchist to Siap. I'll post the thread when it is up.

sure....

Ok Siap.. I await it!

sorry, something came up. I'll have it up soon.

OOC:You should have posted this earlier, I would gladdly invade, occupy, commit war crimes and exterminate parts of your population...but I have not army, cant afford it. :(

Sorry about that...

Sorry about that...

Now I could bomb the snot out of you, drop a few very large very destructive bombs of the nuclear sort, but I don't like using 'em so I guess not. If you'll let me I will use conventional means to bomb your civilian population and industry back to the stone age.

If you did You would have to land forces on to the nations soil... which would mean confrontation with Siap...

If you did You would have to land forces on to the nations soil... which would mean confrontation with Siap...

Is he an ally of yours or someone else who might invade? Do you want you nation to be destroyed in a brutal war of attrition or a quick blitzkrieg war that keeps most of your industry intact? I can help with the war of attrition because of my navy and air forces, but I have no army...so blitzkrieg is out of the question.

he is the invader.... And You would have to have troops land if you wish to claim anything...

he is the invader.... And You would have to have troops land if you wish to claim anything...

Nope, I don't want any more land, without an army and the District Defense Army (sort of like a national guard) stretched to the breaking point, I wouldn't be able to control it...I just want to assist Siap in your destruction.

Plus, it would be fun to drop a couple of 10,000 lb fuel air bombs.