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To achieve greater economic prosperity, the Confederacy of Warsaw shall begin the mass exportation of some of its national production. Any leader or important business are welcome to make purchase of the products therein.

Chemical Industry. Trading closed until further notice.

-Chlorine (Death by inhalation), by the ton: 10 000 Zlotios
-Hydrogen Cyanide (Paralyzing) by the ton: 8 000 Zlotios
-Chloromethyl Chloroformate (Temporary Blindness), by the ton: 5 000 Zlotios

Arms Industry. Going through a major boom due to investments from other nations

-Agata.303 Bolt-Action rifle, 40 Zlotios Each.

Weight 9 lb 6 oz (4.25 kg) unloaded
Length 3 ft 10¼ in (1175 mm)
Barrel length 26 in (660 mm)
Cartridge .303 British
Caliber .303 inch (7.7 mm)
Action Modified Mauser turn bolt
Rate of fire Manual, as determined by skill of operator
Muzzle velocity 2380 ft/s
Effective range 750+ meters
Feed system 5 round, charger reloading

- Fabian Machine Gun 150 Zlotios Each.

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Weight 33 to 50 kg all-up
Length 1,100 mm
Barrel length 720 mm
Cartridge .303 British
Calibre .303 (7.7 mm)
Action recoil with gas boost
Rate of fire 450 to 600 round/min
Effective range 2,440 ft (740 m)
Maximum range 4,500 yards (4100 m) indirect fire
Feed system 250-round canvas belt

Artillery

Siege Mortars.

-Kazimierz type 1911 Siege Mortar 240mm 3500 Zlotios Each. (Image is from a WW2 Gun, but the weapon is still 240mm. Couldn't find a WW1 one.)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Darth_Sin/240MM_Howitzer_M1_New.jpg

Caliber: 240 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 1625 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 280 m/s.
Range: 6500 m to 9400 m (depending on the shell).


-Kazimierz type 305 mm Siege mortar. 7500 Zlotios Each.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Darth_Sin/305mm20Skoda.jpg

Caliber: 305 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 20830 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 340 m/s.
Range: 9600 m to 11300 m (depending on the shell).

Coastal Guns

The Apolonius Long Range 406mm Coastal Gun. 10 000 Zlotios

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Darth_Sin/ww1coast.jpg

Caliber: 406 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 39926 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 820 m/s.
Range: 25 000 m (depending on the shell).

NOTE: Because of the Confederacy's small population and therefore small industrial capabilities the sell of these products will be limited by its production rate.

OOC: Is production of poison gas up and running at this time? I admit ignorance, I just thought it didn't kick off just yet, and that it started with mustard gas...anyway.
If it is legit to have it, you can expect diplomatic pressure on you to stop selling it from Incognitia.

OOC: Is production of poison gas up and running at this time? I admit ignorance, I just thought it didn't kick off just yet, and that it started with mustard gas...anyway.
If it is legit to have it, you can expect diplomatic pressure on you to stop selling it from Incognitia.

Ummm, it was kind of. The Germans first use of Mustard gas was on the Eastern front (not sure if it was winter of '14, or '15) but was a complete failure 'cause of the cold. Then they used it on the French and sent them fleeing for their lives. So ultimately I think you should consult HT before you start selling the stuff. If you are allowed to though, I will be further in touch.

Also did you see my question in the signup thread? If not then I was wondering if your arms industry produced any high quality seige mortars as I would be interested in buying some if they do. Also if you do not have the industrial capability to produce them for me, then I would be willing to pay hansomely for production rights, maybe even be willing to send some investment capital your way to help fix that problem.

The Confederacy currently produces two kinds of Seige mortars.

Kazimierz type 1911 240mm

Caliber: 240 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 1625 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 280 m/s.
Range: 6500 m to 9400 m (depending on the shell).


And Kazimierz type 305 mm siege mortar.

Caliber: 305 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 20830 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 340 m/s.
Range: 9600 m to 11300 m (depending on the shell).

Both weapons are capable of firing two types of shell, an armour piercing round and a light one. Unfortunately, because of production cost, we are unable to produce them at a mass scale. An investment would be require. Of course, you would get a large discount on the weapons, once made.

Incognitia is prepared to invest in your industries at favourable rates, entirely to your benefit, with the one caveat that you will never sell poison gas to any other nation.
We will accept your maintaining a stockpile for the deterrence of unscrupulous nations; however increased production or sale of these horrific weapons is unacceptable to our government and people.

We hope to soften the blow by assisting you in the operation of others among your industries, including if necessary the manufacture and sales of conventional weapons.

There is other assistance we could give you, including the deal we offered Caxistan.

The Confederacy of Warsaw refuse to stop its chemical industry as it is useful in many other fields besides warfare. However, it is willing to form a commission with Incognitia or any other European Power to regulate its trade and use.

The Confederacy also gladly accepts Incognitia's investments. In exchange, Incognitia will benefit from various discounts, depending on the ampleur of its investment.

The crucial point is not stopping your chemical industry, as long as you pledge never to sell lethal chemicals to any other nation.

In return we will invest in whichever of your industries are open to it.

The Confederacy of Warsaw accepts your offer, and would gladly take investments in arms manufacturing.

The Confederacy currently produces two kinds of Seige mortars.

Kazimierz type 1911 240mm

Caliber: 240 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 1625 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 280 m/s.
Range: 6500 m to 9400 m (depending on the shell).


And Kazimierz type 305 mm siege mortar.

Caliber: 305 mm.
Elevation: +40 to +70 degrees.
Traverse: +60 to -60 degrees.
Weight: 20830 kg.
Muzzle velocity: 340 m/s.
Range: 9600 m to 11300 m (depending on the shell).

Both weapons are capable of firing two types of shell, an armour piercing round and a light one. Unfortunately, because of production cost, we are unable to produce them at a mass scale. An investment would be require. Of course, you would get a large discount on the weapons, once made.

Deal, I would also wish to help you develop your industrial might to its fullest. I would be willing to finance an industrial expansion of your arms industry to increase production by 35% over seven years. Obviously I would like to recieve discounts on your weapon designs in return, and I am still interested in those seige mortars.

Deal, I would also wish to help you develop your industrial might to its fullest. I would be willing to finance an industrial expansion of your arms industry to increase production by 35% over seven years. Obviously I would like to recieve discounts on your weapon designs in return, and I am still interested in those seige mortars.

We currently have several of those mortars in store. We should be able to ship them to Bautzen over a relatively short period of time. You will benefit from a 50% discount.

Update! Added pictures and a new weapon design, coastal guns!

(OOC:
Just a bit of advice...shells these days would be sorted by fuse-type. 'Armour piercing' shells would be pretty much useless, except in special circumstances, since the really massive fortifications havent developed yet.
The most common shells would be time-fused and impact-fused shells, time fused shells being designed to explode in the air and kill infantry with sharpnel, and impact shells being used to blow up fortifications.
I dont think we had any other sorts of shells, gas and incendiary shells came later on.)

We currently have several of those mortars in store. We should be able to ship them to Bautzen over a relatively short period of time. You will benefit from a 50% discount.

I assume that you want the investment money to start pouring in, yes?

Of course. We want to start the production of the new coastal guns as soon as possible.

Consider it begun.

BTW I'll take 500 of the 305 mm seige mortars.

Your nation benefits from a discount of 50%. Your order will therefore cost 1875 000 Zlotios.

It was cheering to consider, Jonathon thought to himself, how much of Warsaw was now owned by Incognitians.

He smiled gently to himself. The government wanted investment in it's industries, especially the arms industry. And it had come; money had poured in, from private enterprise, and from government concerns.
And, as a result, ever more of the industrial capacity of the Duchy was controlled by Incognitian companies and individuals.
Of course they didn't vote as a bloc at board meetings. They weren't part of one vast conspiracy. Nothing so...melodramatic.
But they were becoming sufficiently entrenched that it would be impossible entirely to buy them out, and even to attempt it would raise suspicion.
And it was only a matter of time before some of the major companies were answering to owners in Incognitia, not in Warsaw.
Even before that point, Warsaw would be nigh-incapable of acting against Incognitia. Because if they did, the shareholders would drop their holdings like hot potatoes, and nearly every company would have a gaping hole in its finances.
Bautzen's investors were in a similar, if slightly less strong position, as they had the same deal but were somewhat more distant, and didn't directly border Warsaw.
It was fortunate, at this stage, for Warsaw that they had befriended Bautzen, Incognitia and Caxistan; otherwise they would be under a large degree of pressure that would be remarkably hard to resist.

Jonathon grinned...another success of free-market capitalism...and reminded himself they were all friends, and the matter would never arise....would it?

The Apolonius Long Range 406mm Coastal Gun is now under production.

The Byzantium league shows interest in the Coastal Guns, and would like to purchase 200 of them over the course of 2 Years

The Apolonius Long Range 406mm Coastal Gun is now under production.

Bautzen would like to purchase 400 of these in their budget next year. Inn addition the goverment has wired the 1,875,000 Zlotos (not sure what that would be in my currency, though probably less) for its previous purchase.

Upon receiving the 2000000 Zlotios, trading with the Byzantium League has begun.

Upon receiving the 4000000 Zlotios, trading with Bautzen has begun.

The Apolonius guns are no longer prototypes, and because of the Confederacy's recent expantion, weapon productions are at an all time high.

how much is a Zlotios in pounds, I will proably take a costal gun

"Ok John. To finish today's briefing, the light relief of the intelligence report."
"Go on."
"A totally landlocked nation is wanting to buy a coastal gun."
"No coastline? One, single gun? We're a bit short on the humour right now, aren't we?"
"Well, we recall of course that tension is rising and Europe is heading for war."
"Eh, spose."

I intend to use it on border defenses, just because it is called a costal gun does not mean it has to be used at the coast. I would probably take 50 depends on the price

France did use Coastal Guns as artillery pieces during WW1.

A single coastal gun is 10 000 zlotios, so 50 would be 500 000 zlotios.

How much is that in sterling

How much is that in sterling

This is a fictional RP, sterlings are nonexistant. Though if you take into account that Illar holds the strongest currency, 1 zlotios would probably equal to 0.6 Illarian Dollar.

I will take 20 costal guns as soon as possible

Upon receiving of the 200 000 zlotios, manufacturing of the Coastal Guns have begun. They will be shipped in a few months.

Greetings,

The Kingdom of Immyr is currently seeking to upgrade its current standard issue infantry rifle. While the Berthier 8mm rifle is adequate for our current needs, it has been decided that it is in the Kingdom's best interests to begin planning for the future.

With that in mind, the Kingdom wished to procure 1000 Agata .303 Bolt-action rifles for analysis and field testing. Should the Agata be found to meet the Immyrian Army's current and future needs, the Kingdom will be seeking to procure additional units.

In the event that the Army upgrades to the Agata, the Kingdom will seek to discuss the purchase of manufacturing rights to the Agata rifle in order to begin local manufacturing of the weapon.

Regards,

Office of Procurement
Ministry of Defense
Kingdom of Immyr

i am willing to pay 15 000 Zlotios per ton for 20 tonnes of Chlorine. If you do not sell them to me i will create my own and sell to anyone i chose, also have you not realised that Terror Incognitia does not want you selling it so he can use it himself and have a stragetic advantage

make it 25

Greetings,

The Kingdom of Immyr is currently seeking to upgrade its current standard issue infantry rifle. While the Berthier 8mm rifle is adequate for our current needs, it has been decided that it is in the Kingdom's best interests to begin planning for the future.

With that in mind, the Kingdom wished to procure 1000 Agata .303 Bolt-action rifles for analysis and field testing. Should the Agata be found to meet the Immyrian Army's current and future needs, the Kingdom will be seeking to procure additional units.

In the event that the Army upgrades to the Agata, the Kingdom will seek to discuss the purchase of manufacturing rights to the Agata rifle in order to begin local manufacturing of the weapon.

Regards,

Office of Procurement
Ministry of Defense
Kingdom of Immyr

The Confederacy of Warsaw is more than willing to trade with the Kingdom of Immyr. Your order of rifles will be delivered to your nation in a few weeks at the cost of 40 000 Zlotios. However, The Confederacy does not wish to see its own rifle produced elsewhere and will not sell manufacturing rights at any given price. But we can, of course, supply your country with weapons over a reasonable period of time.

i am willing to pay 15 000 Zlotios per ton for 20 tonnes of Chlorine. If you do not sell them to me i will create my own and sell to anyone i chose, also have you not realised that Terror Incognitia does not want you selling it so he can use it himself and have a stragetic advantage

Trading of Chemical Agents is illegal and frowned upon by most nations. States dealing with these horrific weapons, will be punished by heavy sanctions. The Confederacy of Warsaw therefore declines your offer, but invites you into purchasing any other type of armemant.

i am willing to pay 15 000 Zlotios per ton for 20 tonnes of Chlorine. If you do not sell them to me i will create my own and sell to anyone i chose, also have you not realised that Terror Incognitia does not want you selling it so he can use it himself and have a stragetic advantage

OOC: I'm sadly forced to work on the assumption that I don't know you sent this message.
However, Incognitia, should this message ever fall into our hands, will take violent exception to it.
And...if Nerom decides to start selling chemical weapons, obviously we will know about that...and there will be consequences. Probably not friendly ones.

ooc I will not be selling it but creating it for personal use, also where are my costal guns