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Nemesis Assault Rifle

The Phoenix Milita
10-04-2007, 05:32
Introducing the AR-20 Nemesis Assault Rifle


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/Firearms/NEMAR20.png
Phoenix Dynamix Labs looked at Armalite's original designs, Colt's modifications and improvements, as well as many AR-15 derived weapons such as the Barret M468, the Phoenix Dynamix AR-56, the H&K 416, ZM's LR300 and the Shrike 5.56. We also looked extensively at the combat history of these weapons and have now believe that we have finally optimized this weapons system and that now, after reaching it's full potential, it is ready to compete on the NS battlefield. All variants feature an integrated rail interface system and can accept almost any known attachment, including M203 and M203X grenade launchers. They are also extremely rugged compared to previous AR-15 type weapons, with equal or greater durability to the 416. The weapons can be configured during assembly to eject spent casings from the right or left side for ease of use by right and left handed individuals.


The Nemesis can be chambered in 5.45mm, 5.56mm, 6.5mm, 6.66mm or 6.8mm
Several barrel lengths are available, between 10 and 20 inches

there are 2 lower receiver assemblies available as well as 4 upper receivers (not including different barrel lengths).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/Firearms/AR-20.jpg
The basic upper withregular buttstock, shown "naked"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/Firearms/AR-20S.jpg
DMR/SPR Upper with long barrel (up to 20 inches), shown with 10x scope and bipod

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/Firearms/AR-20A1.jpg
Carbine Upper (shown with Collapsible buttstock) takes up to 16 inch barrel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/Firearms/AR-20M.jpg
LMG Upper(shown with full buttstock)
The Light Machine Gun\Squad Automatic weapon can be used with up to a 18 inch barrel which has a quick change system and can be fitted with a removable folding bipod.

Notes:
The Full buttstock has a cheek pad and butt pad available as options, movable handle panel for SAW variant and removable, fixed sling points. There is a section which can be removed with takedown pins to create the LMG style stock, and the cheek pad can be attached easily w/o tools as well.

The Collapsible buttstock's sling points are adjustable and also removable

Name: AR-20 Nemesis
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix Labs
Caliber:5.45mmm 5.56mm, 6.5mm, 6.66mm or 6.8mm
Action: short-stroke piston system Select fire (auto/burst/semi-auto)
Total Weight: 7-9 lbs
Range: 800 meters
Rate Of Fire: 800 rounds per minute cyclic
Capacity 10,20,25,30,32 round magazine or 30,36,60,64,90 shot drum or 100-120 round box


Prices:
$1500 Carbine variant
$1550 Standard
$1600 DMR/SPR variant
$1650 LMG/SAW variant


Notice:
This post is considered a RP thread and is only semi-open
Members of ACTO, The Sovereign League and CoS please do not post in this thread.
South Lizasauria
10-04-2007, 07:35
OOC: Theres a friend of mine known as Toori whose nation is ICly looking for people to trade with. You could sell some assault rifles to him. :)
Lands of Ages
10-04-2007, 07:39
OOC: How do these rifles stand up to abuse such as in jungle scenarios with heavy humidity and lots of mud, do they clog/jam easily? Are these compatible with training blanks? Where would we purchase ammunition?
The Phoenix Milita
10-04-2007, 08:31
OOC: Theres a friend of mine known as Toori whose nation is ICly looking for people to trade with. You could sell some assault rifles to him. :)

Yeah but.. he is trying to trade me starships and stuff... :/


OOC: How do these rifles stand up to abuse such as in jungle scenarios with heavy humidity and lots of mud, do they clog/jam easily? Are these compatible with training blanks? Where would we purchase ammunition?

They would hold up as well as a HK 416 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ObWpWXrt9I) You can purchase 5.45mm, 5.56mm, 6.5mm and 6.8mm at many retailers throughout the world in several hundred different nations, and you can buy 6.66mm from Phoenix Dynamix, but as with all PD products, ammo prod rights and plans come free with large orders. TPM Special Ammo is also available in all of the calibers from Phoenix Dynamix, and with TPM Special ammo the weapon will be even more reliable.
Toori
10-04-2007, 18:33
I would like to purchase 345 AR-20's with Standard conversion (standard upper sight rail/carry handle with the fixed stock). I would also like to offer as an "if possible trade" the technology of the MAC (Magnetic Accelerated Cannon), a weapon that can put a high caliber round at unreal speeds through multiple heavily armored, and shielded targets.
The Phoenix Milita
11-04-2007, 02:33
OOC: I have decided I will only accept 2007-2010 feasible technology in trade. In other words, no future tech.



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The Phoenix Milita
13-04-2007, 06:25
bump, for great justice
Free Outer Eugenia
13-04-2007, 11:00
Sounds reasonably good on paper, but how will it preform in the field? It seems like a rather complex design that may prove impractical in extreme conditions and will be quite difficult to repair in a combat situation. We will stick to our own modified AK's for the time being. Even if it is as reliable as our good old improved AK, is it as easy to repair when it does jam? All those bells and whistles are just peachy on the parade ground, but a jammed rifle in the jungle might as well be a poorly balanced lead pipe.

Sarit Woo, delegate
Acquisitions Working Group
Workers Defense Militias
Durruti Commune
Federated Anarchist Communes of Free Outer Eugenia
The Phoenix Milita
13-04-2007, 16:55
Sounds reasonably good on paper, but how will it preform in the field? It seems like a rather complex design that may prove impractical in extreme conditions and will be quite difficult to repair in a combat situation. We will stick to our own modified AK's for the time being. Even if it is as reliable as our good old improved AK, is it as easy to repair when it does jam? All those bells and whistles are just peachy on the parade ground, but a jammed rifle in the jungle might as well be a poorly balanced lead pipe.

Sarit Woo, delegate
Acquisitions Working Group
Workers Defense Militias
Durruti Commune
Federated Anarchist Communes of Free Outer Eugenia

Watch the video, its more reliable than an AK
Snafturi
13-04-2007, 17:24
Would we be able to send some representatives to your contry to test them out?
The Phoenix Milita
13-04-2007, 19:14
Sure, you can send a small number of representatives to a Phoenix Dynamix outlet in The Phoenix Milita or to the giant mall in Maraque where we have a nice showroom. Alternatively, we can send a few loaner copies for you to evaluate.
Aleard
13-04-2007, 19:35
Recipient: Phoenix Dynamics
Sender: Supreme Commander Johnson
CC: Presidents Office

Subject: Nemesis Assault Rifle [VirusScanned]


The Aleardian Armed Forces, and more specifically the TROA-A (the ground forces, or regular army), are engaged in the purchase of newer and better equipment after the new half yearly government budget, giving the military more money. We are therefore very interested, as you can no doubt undertand, in your new weapon, the Nemesis.

Looking past the eye catching name and mind blowing performance on paper, especially in comparison to our current weaponry, we are still not entirely convinced your weapon is right for us. For this reason we ask that (with a deposit if necessary, or payment for damaged weapons) we may receive some weapons, ten of each, to try.

Our troops are very anxious to be chosen for the testing and are very keen to get their hands on the latest battlefield equipment you have to offer. If there are any problems with our request do not hesitate to reply.

Yours,
Supreme Commander Johnson.

Head Of TROA-A.
Head Of Re-armanent Programme.
The Phoenix Milita
13-04-2007, 19:57
To: Supreme Commander Johnson,Aleard
From: Comptroller Robert Merillion (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Robert_Merillion), CFO Phoenix Dynamix

We can assure we have tested each model as we test all weapons for defects in workmanship and flaws in the design. The Nemesis underwent thousands of hours of laboratory, range and real-world tests. We have dunked these rifles in water, buried them in Arctic snow, baked them in Death Valley sun, covered them in Mojave desert sand, dragged them through the mud and swamps. We even disassembled 50 of them, mixed the parts up in a tumbler full of dirt and ash then re-assembled them with mixed parts and then fired 1,000 rounds through each Then we did it all over again. But if our own test results and the endorsement by Phoenix Seville (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Phoenix_Seville) don't convince you, by all means test them yourself. We will send you the loaner copies at once.
Aleard
13-04-2007, 20:08
Recipient: Robert Merillion
Sender: Supreme Commander Johnson
CC: Presidents Office

Subject: Nemesis Assault Rifle [VirusScanned]


I have never come across a business that tests its products to such a high level. I am really quite astonished. A reputable business such as your own would not lie about their testing, im sure, and therefore the president himself is happy to lend the finance needed for the transaction.

We would like to re-equip our military over the next two years with your weapons, and ask for the weapons to be shipped in two transactions over this time.

The first is half of the weapons totalling 524,800 rifles. This we calculate will come to $787,200,000. The second shipment will be of the same quantity for the same total. The second purchase will happen in 330 days time as an automatic transfer to your account.

We thank you for the wonderful weapon we hope to receive and the service you provide. We will look at your products for other needs, especially in the coming financial year during our re-armanent programme.

Many thanks,
Supreme Commander Johnson

Head Of TROA-A.
Head Of Re-armanent Programme.
Free Outer Eugenia
13-04-2007, 20:18
Thank you for your generous loan. Though our Field Trials Working Group (a very misleading name, they are mostly involved in reverse engineering actually;) ) has found your rifles more then sufficient, the Communal assembly has failed to allocate sufficient funds to our weapons acquisitions budget. We regret to inform you that we will be unable to purchase any of your fine weapons in the near future. The test copies are enclosed.

Regards,
Sarit Woo, delegate
Acquisitions Working Group
Workers Defense Militias
Durruti Commune
Federated Anarchist Communes of Free Outer Eugenia
The Phoenix Milita
13-04-2007, 20:20
Thank you for your generous loan. Though our Field Trials Working Group (a very misleading name, they are mostly involved in reverse engineering actually;) ) has found your rifles more then sufficient, the Communal assembly has failed to allocate sufficient funds to our weapons acquisitions budget. We regret to inform you that we will be unable to purchase any of your fine weapons in the near future. The test copies are enclosed.

Regards,
Sarit Woo, delegate
Acquisitions Working Group
Workers Defense Militias
Durruti Commune
Federated Anarchist Communes of Free Outer Eugenia
We have not sent Free Outer Eugenia loan copies, we have offered them to Snafturi and Aleard only, and neither of them accepted the offer.

Recipient: Robert Merillion
Sender: Supreme Commander Johnson
CC: Presidents Office

Subject: Nemesis Assault Rifle [VirusScanned]


I have never come across a business that tests its products to such a high level. I am really quite astonished. A reputable business such as your own would not lie about their testing, im sure, and therefore the president himself is happy to lend the finance needed for the transaction.

We would like to re-equip our military over the next two years with your weapons, and ask for the weapons to be shipped in two transactions over this time.

The first is half of the weapons totalling 524,800 rifles. This we calculate will come to $787,200,000. The second shipment will be of the same quantity for the same total. The second purchase will happen in 330 days time as an automatic transfer to your account.

We thank you for the wonderful weapon we hope to receive and the service you provide. We will look at your products for other needs, especially in the coming financial year during our re-armanent programme.

Many thanks,
Supreme Commander Johnson

Head Of TROA-A.
Head Of Re-armanent Programme.

The terms of that transaction are satisfactory and we confirm your order. Thank you for choosing Phoenix Dynamix.
Free Outer Eugenia
13-04-2007, 21:25
We have not sent Free Outer Eugenia loan copies, we have offered them to Snafturi and Aleard only, and neither of them accepted the offer.(OOC: I must have been sleep-posting again. Sorry. Oh well, in that case you may disregard my posts. I will delete them if you wish)
The Phoenix Milita
14-04-2007, 21:01
bump
The Phoenix Milita
15-04-2007, 18:43
bump
The Infantry
15-04-2007, 18:55
We seek to eventually replace all of our M-468, M-1668 and M-60E4 weapons with the Nemesis Assault rifle.
Therefore we would like to order the following number of variants, all chambered for 6.8mm.

Standard Upper, Full Buttstock
1 million with 16 inch barrel
50,000 with 18 inch barrel
1,000 with 14.5 inch barrel

Carbine Upper, Collapsible Buttstock
10,000 with 10 inch barrels
170,000 with 12.5 inch barrel
700,000 with 14.5inch barrels

LMG Upper, Full Buttstock
200,000 with 16 inch barrel
150,000 with 18 inch barrel

LMG Upper, Collapsible Buttstock
50,000 with 14.5 inch barrel


Additionally we would like to evaluate the DMR variant and thus order 500 units in the DMR/SPR Upper with 20 inch barrel
Lifesblood
15-04-2007, 19:22
OoC: Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering if I could ask some questions?

I'm pretty new, and was wondering what variants of the weapon (If I should be using this weapon?) would be suitable for the army, navy and airforce?

Also, whether this is the kind of weaponry that is appropriate for Special Ops. types?

Thanks for your time.

Hopefully I will be able to purchase from you. ^^
The Phoenix Milita
15-04-2007, 20:18
Order confirmed



OOC: The regular army would make best use of the standard upper with full buttstock and the 16 inch barrel.

The navy can use the standard(or carbine) upper with collapsible buttstock and a 14.5 inch barrel

The Air Force can use the same as the army.

"Special Ops types" would be best equipped with the carbine upper + collapsible stock( for general use and close-quarters battle) and the SPR upper with a full stock ( for snipers)

You may also want to supplement the services with DMR/SPR uppers and LMG variants
FreeAngola
15-04-2007, 20:58
We wish to purchase 35 for our Law Enforcement SWAT Weapons&Equipment Trials

Thank You
The Phoenix Milita
15-04-2007, 21:18
Which variants/caliber?
FreeAngola
15-04-2007, 21:21
6.8mm 16 Inch with Carbine Uppers
The Phoenix Milita
15-04-2007, 22:07
Order confirmed.
Lifesblood
15-04-2007, 23:21
OoC:

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

How much would production rights be for me to build these weapons? And their respective ammunition?
The Phoenix Milita
16-04-2007, 01:03
Phoenix Dynamix stated policy is that Domestic Production Rights for Small Arms = 500% of (1000 x single unit production cost)

Ammunition Production Rights have always been free with purchase.

Production rights require the purchase of 1000 actual weapons.
Lifesblood
16-04-2007, 01:56
From: The Fenris Administration
To: Pheonix Dynamics

The nation of Lifesblood would like to purchase 2000 Nemesis Assault Rifles for military usage.

We would also like to obtain the Domestic Production Rights for the Nemesis Assault Rifle.

Upon confirmation of order the necessary $4500000 will be transferred to your account.

-Transmission End-


OoC: I hope my math is correct.

Also, could I please have a link to your main storefront?
The Phoenix Milita
16-04-2007, 02:02
Order confirmed.

Phoenix Dynamix Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=334378)
Toori
16-04-2007, 07:12
OOC: I have decided I will only accept 2007-2010 feasible technology in trade. In other words, no future tech.



Very well, than I shall either A: pay the due, or B: trade you for some M82a3s, and maybe some oil.
South Lizasauria
16-04-2007, 07:27
IC:

South Lizasauria would like 1000 please.
FreeAngola
16-04-2007, 08:26
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE

The Ministry of Defence form FreeAngola wishes to buy 2500 Nemsis Assault Rifles Caliber 6.8mm,with 16 Inch barrel and with Carbine Uppers,to equip our Law Enforcement SWAT Teams

The funds will come from the Law&Order budget

Thank You
Snafturi
16-04-2007, 19:25
Order request:
We have tested the rifles in Maraque and find them to be exceptional. We would like to employ their use in selective units.

We request an intial order of the following:
10,000 AR-20 Nemisis rifles with the SMR/SPR upper with the butt pad cheek pad options. 20 in barrel.
1,000 AR-20 Nemisis rifles with the LMG upper and full buttstock with the butt pad cheek pad options. 18 in barrel.

As soon as we have order confirmation, we will wire you the funds.

Sincerely,
Arthur M. Thompson
General- 2nd brigade
Snafturi Army
The Phoenix Milita
16-04-2007, 21:46
Orders are confirmed, but please note unless you specify the caliber on order they will be shipped in 6.66mm Dante. If you do not specify upper/lower configuration they will be shipped with standard upper + full buttstock
Snafturi
16-04-2007, 23:12
Many thanks! As promised, funds have been wired in the amount of $16,500,000.

Sincerely,
Arthur M. Thompson
General- 2nd brigade
Snafturi Army
Toori
17-04-2007, 07:40
Orders are confirmed, but please note unless you specify the caliber on order they will be shipped in 6.66mm Dante. If you do not specify upper/lower configuration they will be shipped with standard upper + full buttstock

Thank you. Do you accept my trade offer of the M82s, or shall I pay in Earth credits?
FreeAngola
17-04-2007, 15:57
Money Has Been Transfered
The Phoenix Milita
17-04-2007, 17:27
We will accept "Earth Credits", gold, silver, oil, steel, bauxite etc.
Toori
17-04-2007, 22:19
Very well, your large shipment of oil is on the way. A pleasure doing buisiness with you.
The Phoenix Milita
26-04-2007, 06:39
Introductory rate ends tomorrow evening.
New Basilica
26-04-2007, 06:51
phoenix militia- did you read my telegram?
Toori
26-04-2007, 08:08
Your petrol goods have been delivered, and our Carriers are in low hover over your nation. You may deliver the Nemesis Assault Rifles via cargo transport, or rotery winged air craft, as many primative Earth cultures have. Or, we may send down convoys of shuttles to ubtain the goods. Your desision.



Notice: Once goods are recieved, the Nemesis Assault Riffle will be added into our inventory.
The Phoenix Milita
27-04-2007, 01:36
Send your shuttles.
The Southron Born
27-04-2007, 02:22
Deep South would like to purchase 100,000,000 Rifles. Please contact Alantic States, our C in C for more details. If personell are also available for hire, the Deep South is very interested.
The Last Anarchy Order
27-04-2007, 03:09
To: Robert Merillion
From: The Offices of the Treasury

Subject: AR-20 Nemisis Weapons System
In an effort to increase the volatility of the Orderian Armed Forces, it has been decided that a new weapons system to bring the Military and Police Force into the future. It has been planned to make the AR-20 Nemisis that weapon.

A few questions are raised. First, which ammunition type provides the best results with this weapon? When looking for a new weapons system, it was thought that a short-barreled carbine that uses 9mm ammunition would be the best suited for the Police Force, a major entity in The Last Anarchy Order. Do any of the other calibers supported by this weapon have similar effects of the 9mm?

However, it has been decided for now, the AR-20 Nemisis will become the new weapon of the Military and, after the answering of above questions, possibly of the Police Force. The following weapons are desired, with a payment plan over the whole of four years. After the implementation of such new weaponry, it will be decided as to whether the continuation of the weapon in the Military will occur.

Upon confirmation, funds will be transferred via electronic transfer, with a payment of $375,000,000 each year on this date for the next four years.

Sincerely,
Calvin Tame
Minister of the Treasury of The Last Anarchy Order

[ATTACHMENT]
Here is the order:

AR-20 Nemisis Variants

Carbine Upper
Collapsible Buttstock
14in Barrel
32 Round Magazine
X 750,000 units X $1500 = $1,125,000,000

DMR/SPR Upper Long
Fixed Buttstock
20in Barrel
20 Round Magazine
X 125,000 units X $1500 = $187,500,000


LMG Upper
Fixed Buttstock
18in Barrel
90 Round Drum
X 125,000 units X $1500 = $187,500,000

Total = $1,500,000,000
The Phoenix Milita
27-04-2007, 03:28
If you mean 9mm Luger, no, none of the assault rifle rounds have ballistics or wound patterns similar to a pistol round. If you mean 9x39mm Russian, perhaps 6.8mm would be the closest.


Deep South would like to purchase 100,000,000 Rifles. Please contact Alantic States, our C in C for more details. If personell are also available for hire, the Deep South is very interested.

We can not authorize the purchase of 100,000,000 rifles, and see no reason why you would want so many, and we do not think you can pay for them either.
The Last Anarchy Order
27-04-2007, 03:42
To: Robert Merillion
From: The Offices of the Treasury

Subject: AR-20 Nemisis Weapons System

In fact, we were referring to the Russian round. However, at this point in time we wish to purchase only the initial orders. It is not a sealed deal that the AR-20 will become the official rifle of the Orderean Military. Even if it does not, this firearm will set a tremendously high precedent for a replacement arm.

Upon confirmation of the order, the appropriate funds will be transferred over four years, as noted in the previous memo. It has been fantastic doing business with you Mr. Merillion, and we plan to continue economic relations with Phoenix Dynamix even if future orders of the AR-20 are not requested.

Thank you for your quick answering of our question, and future business is inevitable.

Sincerely,
Calvin Tame
Minister of the Treasury of The Last Anarchy Order
The Phoenix Milita
27-04-2007, 03:53
To: Minister Calvin Tame
From: Comptroller Robert Merillion (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Robert_Merillion), CFO Phoenix Dynamix


Your order is confirmed and has been locked in at the introductory rate, thank you for choosing Phoenix Dynamix.



Note to the public: Introductory rate has now ended, regular prices are in effect.
Toori
27-04-2007, 06:41
Send your shuttles.

Shuttles have landed, awaiting shipment.
The Phoenix Milita
27-04-2007, 20:20
Shipped.
Kangfischers
27-04-2007, 20:26
[QUOTE=
We can not authorize the purchase of 100,000,000 rifles, and see no reason why you would want so many, and we do not think you can pay for them either.[/QUOTE]

According to the calculations of the Deep South Foreign Embassy, the order of one hundred million rifles would cost approximately one and a half trillion dollars. This is only a fraction of the annual military budget expense of the region Deep South, which exercises a reasonable one percent tax on all nations in the region. The AR 20 is vital to the developement of our regional force, and we wish to purchase a sufficient number to insure stability in the wake of a civil war and many unstabel regions remain. Hopefully this request will be authorized quickly.
The Phoenix Milita
27-04-2007, 20:33
We can not authorize resale of the rifle, so it must be ordered per nation. If you would like to continue with your order, at least provide us with rough numbers of rifles per country, and you can still order as a region (as long as the split is revealed)
Toori
27-04-2007, 22:49
Once again, thank you for your buisiness Pheonix Malitia. If you ever require assistance, you may contact us.

*Shipment is taken. Carriers exit the atmosphere.*
Kangfischers
28-04-2007, 02:42
The purchase is being made by the region for a regional force. Funding comes from the treasury who allocated money into the military department (obviously). The treasury gets money through a one percent tax on all nations. The total annual budget of the nations of Deep south is approximately 3000 trillion dollars. The region therefore collects over 30 trillion dollars when taxes are due. Twenty five million of the rifles are to be used in an inter-regional force that represents a league of regions. Another twenty-five million rifles will be used to ensure security and are given orders by the regional commander in chief and mandate by the security council. Fifty million will be kept as a reserve for spare parts and in case of a crisis and need for their use should arise. Deep South feels no need to resell these weapons, as we believe the rifles will serve us well. Furthermore, we guarantee that no weapons will be resold and at least fifty percent of the weapons will see immediate action. Transport vessels have been dispatched to make the transaction. Is there any preferred currency or resource we may pay in?
The Phoenix Milita
28-04-2007, 05:55
Order confirmed upon review.

We prefer Shell casings but gold, universal standard dollars, oil, whatever else is acceptable, as long as its hard currency or a valued resource we are need of.
Kangfischers
02-05-2007, 03:40
The Deep South is pleased to pay for all credits with universal dollars. Shipment confirmed.
The Phoenix Milita
02-05-2007, 06:06
Cool.
The Phoenix Milita
03-05-2007, 05:52
New picture plus final prices