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Longboat Class contract

The Northern Baltic
10-04-2007, 01:59
The Northern Baltic proudly announces the need for the construction of a modern, multirole ship. This ship must be about the size of a Kirov Battlecruiser and must sport heavy weaponry to take out much larger ships. It also must be able to combine speed, firepower, and armor well. The winner of this contract will be rewarded with the immediate request and payment for 50 Longboat Class ships. At least 20 of which must be built in one of the Northern Baltic's shipyards. The winner of this contract will also be rewarded with $1,000,000,000 in cash. The price of each ship must be included with each entry. More then one entry per nation is allowed. A picture is requested, but not required.
The World Soviet Party
10-04-2007, 02:16
We can offer you our Bergstein Class Light Frigate (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12331908&postcount=41), it was designed for hit and run tactics against bigger ships, thus, it relies in it's speed and manuaverability to outrun it's foes.
The Sun Pheonix
10-04-2007, 02:28
Greetings Northern Baltic.
I have a ship Design for your consideration.
The approximate cost is 500 million a ship, But price Can be negotiated.

with out further ado. I present to you, my design concept.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b329/haxsor/SoverignClassBattleCruiser.jpg

Stats will Come soon, but for starters it has 5 twin barreled 10in cannons and 10
Ballistic Missle Bays, and optional cruise Missle launch racks.(the cruise missles are still in developement)

Please enjoy what I have offered,

-Lord Superviser Of industry Paul Matthews
Sun Pheonix Defence Industries

EDIT:

-Displacment:20,000 tons empty-26,000 tons full
-Length:350 meters at water line
-Width:15 meters
-Draft:13 meters empty-16 meters full
-Armament:
>5x twin barreled 10in cannons
>6x 5in cannons
>16x ballistic missle tubes
>2x Ship-to-Ship missle batteries
>4x Cruise missle Launch Racks
>3x Missle defence guns(phalanx)
-Sensor:
>2x LRMDs(long range missle detection system)
>1x ALRR(advanced long Range radar)
>Sonar
>communication arrays
-Propulsion:2x sun pheonix Azapods; 30-35 Knots
-Crew:300 men and women
Shakal
10-04-2007, 02:31
We can offer the Redemption Class Cruiser (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Redemption_Class_Cruiser) or the Revival Class Cruiser (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Revival_Class).

The Redmption Class is more expensive at $55 000 000 but it houses alot heavier weapons.

The Revival is fast and agile to outrun and hit enemy light and supply vessels hard. It costs around $38 000 000
Leafanistan
10-04-2007, 03:58
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4493/longboatclasspr4.jpg

PBN-Longboat-X Class Pocket Battleship Proposal

A powerful multirole Pocket Battleship designed to face all modern threats, whether it is swarms of Torpedo boats, or lesser capital ships. It is designed to be able to outsmart its enemies and outgun, torpedo, missile, and anything in between.

Propulsion System

This proposed ship uses a revolutionary new form of propulsion that is being introduced on the 2027 Refits of all new Leafanistani Ships. Instead of using finicky propeller shafts, it uses a series of scoops in the front to pick up incoming seawater. It then puts them through a series of metal plates which ionizes the water, then magnets to propel them out the back. This creates a rather silent, non mechanical waterjet, that is capable of reducing shipwake by at least 20%.

Stealth System

Above the thick composite armor, is a layer of plastic that absorbs RADAR and takes in input from a series of cameras on top of the ship to take in sky color. To the human eye, it interprets it as sky. The plastic layer is assembled by a new process called M13 Bacteriophage Assembly which uses genetically altered M13 Phages to grab onto various different compounds. It is easier to assemble and faster to make all the components.

Armament System

The proposed ship has probably the most interesting combination of weapons designed. There is a triple 12" ETC cannon to take care of big threats such as other battleships or even the dreaded dreadnought. It also carries a dual 140mm ETC Automatic Cannon to shred smaller ships. The side mounted dual 40mm ETC Autocannons will take care of torpedo boats or even helicopters. The missile system, uses the Russian Cold Launch Revolving VLS to support massive amounts of missiles.

The rockets on the antisubmarine armament, complement the contact mortars which are far more effective than traditional depth charges as they don't cloud SONAR if they miss.

The oddly mounted torpedoes, ensure 3 directions of firing covering 230 degrees around the ship. The unusual caliber is to maintain the caliber used by the USSNB Navy.

Defense System

The inaccuracy of the Phalanx, Goalkeeper and other similar CIWS systems are well known and it requires a new weapon to throw at the enemy ship. The new RIM-116 RAM upgraded to the HAS standard is capable of extreme close range engagement of missiles, helicopters, aircraft and fast moving surface ships.

Augmented with smoke and chaff launchers, it can distract and confuse enemy missiles. Its RADAR absorbent sides can easily mask its signature from older antiquated antishipping missiles.

Aircraft

A below deck hanger can hold and maintain up to 3 helicopters or small VTOL aircraft. UAVs/UCAVs may be launched from this platform.

Sensor and Fire Control Suite

Radars:
Voskhod MR-800 (Top Pair) 3D search radar on foremast
Fregat MR-710 (Top Steer) 3D search radar on main mast
2 × Palm Frond navigation radar on foremast

Sonar:
Horse Jaw LF hull sonar
Horse Tail VDS (Variable Depth Sonar)
4x Vichy Towed SONAR array

Fire control:
Tomb Stone Fire Targeting RADAR
Bass Tilt for CIWS System fire control
3× Eye Bowl for S-400 SAM
1× Kite Screech for dual 40mm ETC Autocannons

Statistics

Displacement: 31,700 tons
Length: 288.2 m
Beam: 28 m
Draught: 9.1 m
Propulsion and power: Pebblebed Nuclear Reactor propulsion with steam turbine boost, producing 190,000 hp
Ion Channel Propulsion
Speed: 32 knots
Range: Theoretically Infinite
Complement: 765

Gun Armament:

1x Twin 140mm ETC Automatic Cannons ('A' Position)
1x Triple 12" ETC Guns ('B' Position)
8x Dual 40mm ETC Automatic Cannons (4 on each side)

Missile Armament:

Using revolving VLS tubes to increase volume of missiles stored in a single place, the prototype Longboat is capable of storing more missiles than any other comparable ship, and it can actually reload at sea.

24 Raduga Kh-55 SSM
48 P-270 Moskits AShM
96 S-400 long-range SAM

Antisubmarine Armament:

2x RBU-1000 305mm ASW rocket launchers
2x RBU-12000 (Udav-1) 254mm ASW rocket launchers
6x Hedgehog Contact Mortars

Torpedo Armament:

4x 600mm ASW/ASuW torpedo tubes (front mounted)
3x 600mm ASW/ASuW torpedo tubes (starboard)
3x 600mm ASW/ASuW torpedo tubes (port)

Point Defense Systems:

6x Phalanx CIWS System
10x 21 RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles (HAS standard), point defense SAM
12x Quad Chaff Mortars
20x 76mm Smoke Rockets

Armor

670mm RHAe Turret Front
475mm RHAe Superstructure
500mm RHAe Top Deck
1000mm RHAe Side
1200mm RHAe reactorside

Cost: $2 billion US
Leafanistan
10-04-2007, 16:26
Greetings Northern Baltic.
I have a ship Design for your consideration.
The approximate cost is 40 million a ship, But price Can be negotiated.

with out further ado. I present to you, my design concept.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b329/haxsor/SoverignClassBattleCruiser.jpg

Stats will Come soon, but for starters it has 5 twin barreled 10in cannons and 10
Ballistic Missle Bays, and optional cruise Missle launch racks.(the cruise missles are still in developement)

Please enjoy what I have offered,

-Lord Superviser Of industry Paul Matthews
Sun Pheonix Defence Industries

EDIT:

-Displacment:20,000 tons empty-26,000 tons full
-Length:270 meters at water line
-Width:15 meters
-Draft:13 meters empty-16 meters full
-Armament:
>5x twin barreled 10in cannons
>6x 5in cannons
>16x ballistic missle tubes
>2x Ship-to-Ship missle batteries
>4x Cruise missle Launch Racks
>3x Missle defence guns(phalanx)
-Sensor:
>2x LRMDs(long range missle detection system)
>1x ALRR(advanced long Range radar)
>Sonar
>communication arrays
-Propulsion:2x sun pheonix Azapods; 30-35 Knots
-Crew:300 men and women

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Redemption_Class_Cruiser
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Revival_Class

OOC: There is no way this is 40 million, nor 55 million, nor any other million dollar price unless it is a hair under a billion . At that hull weight, and length, it should already be 70 million for the hull itself. Combined with all that technology, and at this price, it has to be surplus or something because you really want to dispose of these. These prices are ridiculous. I think me and TWSP are the only ones who aren't trying to bankrupt ourselves.

As for TWSP, he wants something close to a Battlecruiser or Pocket Battleship that can deal with any sort of threat. We all know that the Battlecruiser concept as the British envisioned it was easily ruptured by a single German Battleship, speed as armor doesn't work even against biplanes and mechanically operated.

Though as a frigate, (I prefer to call it a light destroyer because of its length), I think your design is sound as a major combatant for smaller navies.
The Northern Baltic
11-04-2007, 02:16
The USSNB announces that if there are no more last minute entries, Leafanistan wins the Longboat Class contract. $101,000,000,000 has been provided to them. Meanwhile, the Northern Baltic Merchent Marine Corps has just recently put a contract up for the creation of a cargo escort vessel. We award this contract to The World Soviet Party. An order for 100 Bergstein Class vessels has been placed with The World Soviet Party. 30 of these vessels must be built in one of the Northern Baltic's numerous shipyards. $50,000,000,000 has been provided to TWSP as well as an extra $25,000,000 for winning the contract. $10,000,000 has been provided to the other entries of the contest.
The World Soviet Party
11-04-2007, 02:21
Meanwhile, the Northern Baltic Merchent Marine Corps has just recently put a contract up for the creation of a cargo escort vessel. We award this contract to The World Soviet Party. An order for 100 Bergstein Class vessels has been placed with The World Soviet Party. 30 of these vessels must be built in one of the Northern Baltic's numerous shipyards. $50,000,000,000 has been provided to TWSP as well as an extra $25,000,000 for winning the contract.

Thanks, we'll get on making them right away, expect them at a rate of about 10 every 1.5 NS Years, the ones being layed out over at TNB should be done in 4 NS Years to finish (all of them).
Leafanistan
11-04-2007, 03:51
Thanks, we'll get on making them right away, expect them at a rate of about 10 every 1.5 NS Years, the ones being layed out over at TNB should be done in 4 NS Years to finish (all of them).

OOC: The first delivery will be in a few months. I'm actually producing the same thing with a very long 280mm Gun for the Leafanistani Navy, oh and the armor composition is different with mine. So the hulls are already being produced, that is why I have a hull picture.

It is nice to legitimately sell things for once eh?

So, I was thinking of selling this as the Longboat-E with a thinner hull, downgraded antiair missiles, no Moskits but C-802s, no RAMs but more Phalanx CIWS guns, and a Seadart turret. Oh and make the nuclear reactor optional for the pissy types.

I can technically call it the major surface combatant of the USSNB's Navy and the Leafanistani Navy.

"This hull is the new major surface combatant of the USSNB's Navy and the Navy of the Glorious Republic."