NationStates Jolt Archive


Opening of Africa (NS Colonization, MT)

The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 00:22
Long has the continent of Africa lain away, hidden from the rest of the world and her vast resources go untapped for the greater good of the world. But, yet times change and no longer can this continue as the demand of the wealthier and more powerful nations of the world increases so shall the supply has to also grow no matter what the cost. So therefore now the world looks to Africa and all the she has to offer has thus she shall now be made to give her resources to the rest of the world to satisfy the vast demand which could no longer be fed solely by the resources of one nation.

Rules:

They are not really any so feel to either oppress your people or make your colony into a paradise for the natives. Though I do want to aviod the use of nuclear weapons, though biological and chemical weapons are free to be used by people.;)

The only real rule set in stone is that of population which shall a quarter of the real populations or you can make a number if you really want.

As for resources they are in the same places as they are in real life.

As for things like genocide, slavery, forced removals, environmental crap, etc. do as you like as I shall not act as they police men here and I generally do not care, though I cannot say the same for the rest of the people here. Though to note they is no real population census as there has never been done so you can get away with killing a few million if you wish as there will be no proof to how many you really killed open to the outside world.

To say claims are up for grabs till I finalize them.

Claims:

Population:
50 million: 1 countries:: Any Size
100 million: 2 countries: 1 large, 1 small
150 million: 3 countries: 1 large, 2 small
400 million: 4 countries: 2 large, 2 small
600 million: 5 countries: 2 large, 3 small
1.2 billion or Above: Do not care anymore, though I have to approve claim as long you do not have more then 5 large countries.

What constitutes small are countries that are the size of the Gabon or smaller.

Note two smalls equal one large,

Map:

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=colonies2sb1.png

The Scandinvans: Blue
New Brittonia: Orange
Aurania-Shifre: Red
Granate: Dark Blue
Sendersdale: Brown
The Exiles of Dangari: Green
Bautizar: Purple
No Taxes Defense Corp: Light Green
Ezaltia: Gray
Errikland: Goldenrod
[NS::::]Olmedreca: Real Blue
Honako: Forest Green
Corbournne: Violet
ChevyRocks: Black
Dragonicale: Turqouise
United Kingdom 2: Pink

Except, for special invite, this thread is now closed to the closed to the current players further notice.

Main Thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523617

South America

http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapromancelatinamericawl7.png

Colors are the same.

Claim rules are that only the nations with an area of less then three countries can claim more then two countries, with only one larger then Ecuador allowed.
New Brittonia
10-04-2007, 00:33
The Maghreb: Western Sahara, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt,
and Israel and the palestinian territories
Dragonicale
10-04-2007, 00:44
The Dragonicale: Ethiopia and Somalia and Sudan
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 00:55
The Maghreb: Western Sahara, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt,
and Israel and the palestinian territoriesSorry, I just added claim rules and you will have to chose one larger country and one smaller one.

The Dragonicale: Ethiopia and Somalia and SudanSorry, I just added claim rules and you will have to chose one larger country and one smaller one.
New Brittonia
10-04-2007, 01:01
OK, I want Israel and the Palestinian territories (modern borders)
Aurania-Shifre
10-04-2007, 01:03
Can i please have Kenya? :)

and my color preferably red
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:06
OK, I want Israel and the Palestinian territories (modern borders)If you want you can have Syria to.
New Brittonia
10-04-2007, 01:07
If you want you can have Syria to.

I don't have enough people in my nation though.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:12
OK, I want Israel and the Palestinian territories (modern borders)Yet, you are claiming some the smallest land areas to offer and least I can do is give you Syria.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:13
Can i please have Kenya? :)

and our color preferably dark greenDamn you.;)

What nation do you want?

As I am just going to give you Kenya.
Sendersdale
10-04-2007, 01:14
Is it possible if I can make a claim on Libya, Tunisia and Madagascar?

I know Madagascar qualifies as a large country, but it's area is just 2 Gabon's stuck together (and then some :D)
New Brittonia
10-04-2007, 01:15
Yet, you are claiming some the smallest land areas to offer and least I can do is give you Syria.

Thank you, I have to now

:)
Granate
10-04-2007, 01:17
The Commonwealth of Granate: Yemen, Oman, Somalia, Ethiopia, Dijibouti, Eritrea, and Sudan.
Aurania-Shifre
10-04-2007, 01:18
Damn you.;)

if you want Kenya i can just go somewhere else, i mean its a pretty big continent

What nation do you want?

As I am just going to give you Kenya.

Is this like RL Nations with this RP?
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:21
if you want Kenya i can just go somewhere else, i mean its a pretty big continent



Is this like RL Nations with this RP?Nope, NS nations, but back to the topic I said dang you because you changed so much, but you can have Kenya as I do not want it.
Aurania-Shifre
10-04-2007, 01:23
Nope, NS nations, but back to the topic I said dang you because you changed so much, but you can have Kenya as I do not want it.

what did i change so much?

yea okay ill stick with just Kenya, and i've changed my mind can my claim be in red? not dark green
The Exiles of Dangari
10-04-2007, 01:23
I'd like to claim Zambia and Angola please.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:26
The Commonwealth of Granate: Yemen, Oman, Somalia, Ethiopia, Dijibouti, Eritrea, and Sudan.Got ya.

By the way give me a minute to update the map for everyone.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:27
I'd like to claim Zambia and Angola please.Thank you for joning us and you have been added.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:33
what did i change so much?

yea okay ill stick with just Kenya, and i've changed my mind can my claim be in red? not dark greenYou had Nambia first, Zaire second, and then Kenya so I wanted to make a quick joke that is all.:D
The Exiles of Dangari
10-04-2007, 01:34
I'd like to claim Zambia and Angola please.

Color: yellow if possible.
Aurania-Shifre
10-04-2007, 01:37
You had Nambia first, Zaire second, and then Kenya so I wanted to make a quick joke that is all.:D

hahaha srry i didn't catch on faster :D


oh heres a list of claims:

New Brittonia: Western Sahara, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt,
and Israel and the palestinian territories

Dragonicale: Ethiopia and Somalia and Sudan

Sendersdale: Libya, Tunisia and Madagascar

Granate: Yemen, Oman, Somalia, Ethiopia, Dijibouti, Eritrea, and Sudan

The Exiles of Dangari: Zambia and Angola

The Scandivans: The Gambia, Senegal, South Africa Namibia, Botswana, Saudi Arabia, UAE, S. Iran, Northern Oman, Bahrain

Aurania-Shifre: Kenya
Granate
10-04-2007, 01:41
So what are we actually going to be doing with these?
New_Brittonia
10-04-2007, 01:44
What's my color??
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:44
So what are we actually going to be doing with these?OOC: You can now and here if you like.
Granate
10-04-2007, 01:45
OOC: You can now and here if you like.

Eh?
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:49
Color: yellow if possible.OOC: Next map update I will have it that.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 01:50
What's my color??OOC: Top right corner orange.
The Exiles of Dangari
10-04-2007, 01:54
OOC: Next map update I will have it that.

I see you already made them green. Green is fine. No need to change it.
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 01:58
[[ Speaking OOC: Bautizar would like to claim present-day Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly known as Zaire), the Central African Republic, the Ivory Coast (assuming it's not categorized as a large country; if it is then I would seek to have Benin substituted in place of it), Togo, and Ghana. ]]

Edit: Remembered my African geography (was a little rusty) and changed the last three countries to their correct names.
Aurania-Shifre
10-04-2007, 01:59
So what are we actually going to be doing with these?

whatever we want i guess
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:01
Eh?OOC: Yeap now.
Granate
10-04-2007, 02:05
OOC: Yeap now.

I still don't get it, what exactly are these for?
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 02:12
I still don't get it, what exactly are these for?

[[ Speaking OOC: They're colonies, so you do with them whatever you damn well please. Medical testing on the inhabitants. Exploitation of resources for the benefit of your country. Turn them into slave labor. The list goes on and on ... ]]
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:15
[[ Speaking OOC: Bautizar would like to claim present-day Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly known as Zaire), the Central African Republic, the Ivory Coast (assuming it's not categorized as a large country; if it is then I would seek to have Benin substituted in place of it), Togo, and Ghana. ]]

Edit: Remembered my African geography (was a little rusty) and changed the last three countries to their correct names.OOC: Added.
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 02:17
OOC: Added.

[[ Speaking OOC: Much obliged. Was it OK to have the Ivory Coast in the list, or does that fall under the classification of a "large country"? ]]
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:20
[[ Speaking OOC: Much obliged. Was it OK to have the Ivory Coast in the list, or does that fall under the classification of a "large country"? ]]OOC: It is about the size of Gabon so it is :cool:.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:22
I still don't get it, what exactly are these for?OOC: NS with a pop you can do whatever the hell you want with.:D

[[ Speaking OOC: They're colonies, so you do with them whatever you damn well please. Medical testing on the inhabitants. Exploitation of resources for the benefit of your country. Turn them into slave labor. The list goes on and on ... ]]OOC: This is the better explantation.
New_Brittonia
10-04-2007, 02:22
Well, is this an ooc thread?
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:37
Well, is this an ooc thread?Yeap.

IC thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12528515#post12528515
Granate
10-04-2007, 02:38
I dunno about just colonies. I thought there was gonna be like a Rp wrapped around this.
No Taxes
10-04-2007, 02:44
I'll take Nigeria and Niger, but they'll be owned by No Taxes Defense Corporation, not the government of No Taxes
Ezaltia
10-04-2007, 02:50
Can I take Algeria, Morocco, and Western Sahara?
Errikland
10-04-2007, 02:54
I almost definately saw this too late, but I will try anyway. I would like to make my claims elsewhere consistant with those here, and, should those currently in possession of them be willing to sell them at any point, I would like to take possession of/buy this (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Imperialism/africa_cl0.png).
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:55
I'll take Nigeria and Niger, but they'll be owned by No Taxes Defense Corporation, not the government of No TaxesYou get regular pop settings for Niger, but only a tenth that of Nigeria then.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 02:57
Can I take Algeria, Morocco, and Western Sahara?Added.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 03:03
I almost definately saw this too late, but I will try anyway. I would like to make my claims elsewhere consistant with those here, and, should those currently in possession of them be willing to sell them at any point, I would like to take possession of/buy this (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Imperialism/africa_cl0.png).I can only give you Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Cameroon, Benin, and southern Chad and the other ones you will have to talk to other peoples.
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:09
I can only give you Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Cameroon, Benin, and southern Chad and the other ones you will have to talk to other peoples.

Thank you. I will look into that.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 03:23
Thank you. I will look into that.Your welcome and thanks for being polite.

*Gives a cookie for politeness*
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:26
Your welcome and thanks for being polite.

*Gives a cookie for politeness*

Thank you for the cookie. Who was it who had the other territories?
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 03:31
Thank you for the cookie. Who was it who had the other territories?Bautizar and a No Taxes corportaion.
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:34
Bautizar and a No Taxes corportaion.

Thank you. I will look into them.

*laughs maniacally*

Oh, sorry.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 03:38
Thank you. I will look into them.

*laughs maniacally*

Oh, sorry.Ohh... how cute.

*Gives a cookie for cuteness*
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:38
[[ Speaking OOC: Bautizar would like to claim present-day Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly known as Zaire), the Central African Republic, the Ivory Coast (assuming it's not categorized as a large country; if it is then I would seek to have Benin substituted in place of it), Togo, and Ghana. ]]

Edit: Remembered my African geography (was a little rusty) and changed the last three countries to their correct names.

Hey, what would you take in exchange for the CAR, Togo, and Ghana?
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:39
Ohh... how cute.

*Gives a cookie for cuteness*

Thanks again.

*begins to get fat*
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:43
I'll take Nigeria and Niger, but they'll be owned by No Taxes Defense Corporation, not the government of No Taxes

The Errikans would be very interested in your claim to Nigeria and Southwestern Niger (southwest of the Niger river), and would undoubtedly compensate your nation (or corporation) handily.
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 03:44
Hey, what would you take in exchange for the CAR, Togo, and Ghana?

[[ Speaking OOC: The Central African Republic isn't on the table for discussion, and that's final. Togo and Ghana I would be willing to concede to you out-of-character, as I haven't yet posted my claims in an in-character manner.

In place of Togo and Ghana - and this is to the OP, whose name escapes me right now - could Bautizar please have present-day Uganda and Rwanda? Much obliged. And this will be the final nation-switch that I do. ]]
Errikland
10-04-2007, 03:47
[[ Speaking OOC: The Central African Republic isn't on the table for discussion, and that's final. Togo and Ghana I would be willing to concede to you out-of-character, as I haven't yet posted my claims in an in-character manner.

In place of Togo and Ghana - and this is to the OP, whose name escapes me right now - could Bautizar please have present-day Uganda and Rwanda? Much obliged. And this will be the final nation-switch that I do. ]]

Thank you for your concession, and I must assure you that, should you reconsider the CAR in the future, the Errikan offer will remain open.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 03:57
Thank you for your concession, and I must assure you that, should you reconsider the CAR in the future, the Errikan offer will remain open.Is this good:
http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=colonieszm2.png
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 04:30
[[ Speaking OOC: The Central African Republic isn't on the table for discussion, and that's final. Togo and Ghana I would be willing to concede to you out-of-character, as I haven't yet posted my claims in an in-character manner.

In place of Togo and Ghana - and this is to the OP, whose name escapes me right now - could Bautizar please have present-day Uganda and Rwanda? Much obliged. And this will be the final nation-switch that I do. ]]So should we have wars against the natives or what?:p
Errikland
10-04-2007, 04:37
So should we have wars against the natives or what?:p

In my previous occupation of this various territory, I cited some bloody, if incredibly one sided, fighting not dissimilar to the fighting during the original scramble for Africa; such fighting would seem necessary for invaders, as I seriously doubt that the local yokels would allow imperial troops to take over their land without any struggle.

EDIT: Found what I was looking for (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_wars).
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 04:46
In my previous occupation of this various territory, I cited some bloody, if incredibly one sided, fighting not dissimilar to the fighting during the original scramble for Africa; such fighting would seem necessary for invaders, as I seriously doubt that the local yokels would allow imperial troops to take over their land without any struggle.

EDIT: Found what I was looking for (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_wars).Then let us proccedd...:D
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 06:21
Quick question what types of weapons should the natives have?
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 06:37
Quick question what types of weapons should the natives have?

[[ Speaking OOC: Normally I would say bows and spears, but we are talking about the early 21st century here, not the 1800s. I'd venture to say maybe limited firepower: a smattering of outdated World War 2-era rifles, possibly some Cold War-era sidearms and rifles, but nothing along the lines of main battle tanks, APCs, helicopters, etc.

It does create an interesting what-if perspective, I will admit. What if the Europeans hadn't settled and colonized the African continent? Would it have developed into an industrial society? Good food for thought as this RP progresses. ]]
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 06:42
[[ Speaking OOC: Normally I would say bows and spears, but we are talking about the early 21st century here, not the 1800s. I'd venture to say maybe limited firepower: a smattering of outdated World War 2-era rifles, possibly some Cold War-era sidearms and rifles, but nothing along the lines of main battle tanks, APCs, helicopters, etc.

It does create an interesting what-if perspective, I will admit. What if the Europeans hadn't settled and colonized the African continent? Would it have developed into an industrial society? Good food for thought as this RP progresses. ]]Considering the saying that in most of Africa they lived in scattered communties due to the harsh conditions and the threat of rapid spread of malaria in large communties they probably would have stayed the same as they had no mass organized societies like in Europe, East Asia, the Americas, and parts of the Middle East so therefore they would have advanced much slower as they mostly developed in isolated communties and only intereacted through trade.
[NS::::]Olmedreca
10-04-2007, 14:14
May I take Kuwait, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon?
Honako
10-04-2007, 14:42
I would like to claim Mawali, Zimbabwe and Mozambique if they have not been claimed (the map shows they have not). Though, if allowed, we would prefer to have Tanzania instead of Zimbabwe.
Mussleburgh
10-04-2007, 15:12
Can I take any land thats free?
The Exiles of Dangari
10-04-2007, 15:14
The "population rule" puts my military at about 2 million. Quite a large number even with 10% in support mode. So I guess I'll be fending off nations who want to take down the "big guy" as well as considering alliances in short manner.
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 16:24
The "population rule" puts my military at about 2 million. Quite a large number even with 10% in support mode. So I guess I'll be fending off nations who want to take down the "big guy" as well as considering alliances in short manner.

[[ Speaking OOC: I hear ya. I deliberately scaled down my military from 3% of the population to about 1% to keep it realistic, which gave me a figure of about 6.65 million active-duty personnel (only about 1.66 million of whom are actually combat personnel; the rest are in logistics).

And I've got no other commitments on the threat board. :D ]]
The Exiles of Dangari
10-04-2007, 16:54
[[ Speaking OOC: I hear ya. I deliberately scaled down my military from 3% of the population to about 1% to keep it realistic, which gave me a figure of about 6.65 million active-duty personnel (only about 1.66 million of whom are actually combat personnel; the rest are in logistics).

And I've got no other commitments on the threat board. :D ]]


Hmmm...that puts you in the Congo, Uganda, and the Central African republic....directly north of me. We're about evenly matched, so a "border dispute" escalating to something larger would be kinda futile. How about expansion? Whoever it is directly to the east (Tanzania, Mozambique, Malawi, Zimbabwe) can put up a fight for awhile. I can invade Malawi and Zimbabwe and you can go into Moz and Tanz. We'll meet up on the east coast and cross over to Madagascar. That is if Scandinvan in the south doesn't mind our intrusion along it's borders. They might want a piece of the action......;)
Corbournne
10-04-2007, 18:46
Egypt and what's left of Iran, or, if I can't have that, Tanzania.
ChevyRocks
10-04-2007, 19:26
Mind if I have Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Tanzania, and Burundi?
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 22:36
Egypt and what's left of Iran, or, if I can't have that, Tanzania.To small of pop for both so I just gave you Egypt.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 22:45
Olmedreca;12529597']May I take Kuwait, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon?Granted.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 22:46
I would like to claim Mawali, Zimbabwe and Mozambique if they have not been claimed (the map shows they have not). Though, if allowed, we would prefer to have Tanzania instead of Zimbabwe.Given, though since to other people want Tanzania I just gave you Zimbabwe if that is alright.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 22:47
Mind if I have Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Tanzania, and Burundi?Mozambique and Zimbabwe taken.

I will affirm you other claims though.

As well, you can still get a couple more.
Granate
10-04-2007, 22:47
To small of pop for both so I just gave you Egypt.

D:>
ChevyRocks
10-04-2007, 22:56
Mozambique and Zimbabwe taken.

I will affirm you other claims though.

As well, you can still get a couple more.

How about Mali and Mauritania?
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 23:01
How about Mali and Mauritania?Granted.:p
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 23:12
Should I open a South America colonization thread?
[NS]Corbournne
10-04-2007, 23:25
To small of pop for both so I just gave you Egypt.

Sorry, I thought 196 million was good for 2 large countries.
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 23:31
Should I open a South America colonization thread?

[[ Speaking OOC: My personal opinion is to close recruitment now and focus more on the roleplay, rather than recruiting more people in and making the roleplay unwieldy and cumbersome with so many involved. The only way I can see South America working out is if we work in reverse, giving the countries last to join the Africa roleplay a shot at a country there based on population.

For example, only countries with 200 million or higher get the option of a country in South America. But if they've already posted in the Africa thread then they're stuck with their Africa countries and can't switch. I'm trying to be fair, considering that they really got screwed as far as country selection is concerned. ]]
No Taxes
10-04-2007, 23:31
The Errikans would be very interested in your claim to Nigeria and Southwestern Niger (southwest of the Niger river), and would undoubtedly compensate your nation (or corporation) handily.
We are sorry but we can't accept the offer. Selling that land would leave us with a large strech of desert and certain resources in Nigeria are too valuable for us to sell.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 23:33
Corbournne;12531315']Sorry, I thought 196 million was good for 2 large countries.Gave you Iran as you were right in your assumption as you get two small countires which can bne exchanged for a large nation.

[[ Speaking OOC: My personal opinion is to close recruitment now and focus more on the roleplay, rather than recruiting more people in and making the roleplay unwieldy and cumbersome with so many involved. ]]Was thinking for it to be closed by us, and maybe one or two of my NS buddies, and to allow the smaller nations to get larger claims really.
Bautizar
10-04-2007, 23:48
Was thinking for it to be closed by us, and maybe one or two of my NS buddies, and to allow the smaller nations to get larger claims really.

[[ Speaking OOC: I personally like the sound of that. Africa's looking mighty crowded on the map, and it would be hard to move around or develop some good roleplay without possibly bumping into a few people. Rather like going to a dance and the floor is full when you want to tango with someone.

Not that I've ever tango'd before. But I hope you get the picture. ]]
Honako
11-04-2007, 00:09
Thanks for accepting most of my claims. I've sent you a TG Scandinvans enquiring about something. I also agree that South America should be opened up.
The Exiles of Dangari
11-04-2007, 00:14
[[ Speaking OOC: My personal opinion is to close recruitment now and focus more on the roleplay, rather than recruiting more people in and making the roleplay unwieldy and cumbersome with so many involved. The only way I can see South America working out is if we work in reverse, giving the countries last to join the Africa roleplay a shot at a country there based on population.

For example, only countries with 200 million or higher get the option of a country in South America. But if they've already posted in the Africa thread then they're stuck with their Africa countries and can't switch. I'm trying to be fair, considering that they really got screwed as far as country selection is concerned. ]]

I concur.


BTW, my previous post about possibilities in "expansion" are just that: possibilities. Just thinking out loud. I don't mean for anyone to get all bent out of shape about plots against them, etc. OK?
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 00:16
[[ Speaking OOC: I personally like the sound of that. Africa's looking mighty crowded on the map, and it would be hard to move around or develop some good roleplay without possibly bumping into a few people. Rather like going to a dance and the floor is full when you want to tango with someone.

Not that I've ever tango'd before. But I hope you get the picture. ]]This look good: http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapromancelatinamericazq0.png
Granate
11-04-2007, 00:20
This look good: http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapromancelatinamericazq0.png

It does, and I doubt I would be able to add to my African claim by claiming an Island or two in the Carribean. Or would I?
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 00:23
Thanks for accepting most of my claims. I've sent you a TG Scandinvans enquiring about something. I also agree that South America should be opened up.Replied to your TG.

As well, I shall just use this thread as I do not want to make to many threads for sign ups. As I do not want to be looking on multiple threads so much, trust me it is annoying after a couple of hours.:p
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 00:24
I concur.


BTW, my previous post about possibilities in "expansion" are just that: possibilities. Just thinking out loud. I don't mean for anyone to get all bent out of shape about plots against them, etc. OK?Alright, I shall post the map on the front page soon and then give land to people whom claim it, though I shall make new rules for it.
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 00:25
It does, and I doubt I would be able to add to my African claim by claiming an Island or two in the Carribean. Or would I?Sounds good.
Granate
11-04-2007, 00:26
Sounds good.

Curacao and Jamaica, please.
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 00:44
Curacao and Jamaica, please.Given and will be in next map update.
New_Brittonia
11-04-2007, 01:48
OK, i don't know what to do in the RP
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 02:07
OK, i don't know what to do in the RPWho nows?;)

Yet, for the time being rp establishing yourself, do want you would do with regular NS rping, and open relations with other players and natives if you wish to.
Bautizar
11-04-2007, 02:09
[[ OOC - Exiles of Dangari: Send me a telegram to let me know what you're planning. I want to know what it is in advance, no offense intended. ]]
Honako
11-04-2007, 09:36
Well, I didn't get your TG somehow Scandinvans, so I'm not sure about the answer to my question. Basically, I'm interested in areas like Peru, Bolvia, Paraguay - most probably all of them is too much, considering my size and other claims, so I'll leave it to you to decide what to give me.
[NS::::]Olmedreca
11-04-2007, 13:54
In South America I would take Panama and Costa Rica.
Errikland
11-04-2007, 18:20
We are sorry but we can't accept the offer. Selling that land would leave us with a large strech of desert and certain resources in Nigeria are too valuable for us to sell.

Perhaps you would be willing to part with the southwestern portion of Nigeria, which is divided from the rest of the nation by river?
Pic (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/nb.png)
United kingdom2
11-04-2007, 20:43
Can i have Chad.
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 22:15
Well, I didn't get your TG somehow Scandinvans, so I'm not sure about the answer to my question. Basically, I'm interested in areas like Peru, Bolvia, Paraguay - most probably all of them is too much, considering my size and other claims, so I'll leave it to you to decide what to give me.You can get Peru and northern Bolivia and that is it.
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 22:19
Olmedreca;12533129']In South America I would take Panama and Costa Rica.Here you.:cool:
The Scandinvans
11-04-2007, 22:21
Can i have Chad.That is if it alright with the other members.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 00:19
Can I have Ethiopia instead?
Granate
12-04-2007, 00:20
Can I have Ethiopia instead?

I think you're a little late.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 00:23
WTF I claimed it in the first page.
Granate
12-04-2007, 00:24
WTF I claimed it in the first page.

Ask Scan.
Granate
12-04-2007, 00:25
WTF I claimed it in the first page.

Actually I know his answer. Your original claim was denied, therefore my claim for Ethiopia over-rode it.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 00:26
What else is avalaible?
Granate
12-04-2007, 00:27
What else is avalaible?

Look on the front page, that should be easy enough to grasp.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 00:31
Isn Turkey avalaible. If not Algeria if thats open.


OOC:My geography in Africa isn't good so that country for Algeria might be wrong.
No Taxes
12-04-2007, 00:56
Perhaps you would be willing to part with the southwestern portion of Nigeria, which is divided from the rest of the nation by river?
Pic (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/nb.png)
We are not willing to sell any part of the territory and already have forces moving into that area.
Mer des Ennuis
12-04-2007, 01:44
I'm colorblind; has anyone claimed South Africa? If not, i'd like to have it.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 01:45
Sorry, its occupied.
Granate
12-04-2007, 01:46
I'm colorblind; has anyone claimed South Africa? If not, i'd like to have it.

The Scandinvans did.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 01:47
Is Turkey avalaible? I like to claim it if it is able to be claimed
Mer des Ennuis
12-04-2007, 01:51
Just to ask, don't most of these claims conflict with other claims of empire? I know that Hataria (who I have no respect for) claims to have held Algeria for at least a few months, while others claim to have other northern african countries.
Granate
12-04-2007, 01:54
Just to ask, don't most of these claims conflict with other claims of empire? I know that Hataria (who I have no respect for) claims to have held Algeria for at least a few months, while others claim to have other northern african countries.

Different Africa. There an infinite, and finite, number of Africa's in the NS Universe. His Africa is differen then ours.
Mer des Ennuis
12-04-2007, 01:55
Oh, so I can still claim South Africa without having to go through a long, drawn out insurgency against the Scandinavians?
Granate
12-04-2007, 01:59
Oh, so I can still claim South Africa without having to go through a long, drawn out insurgency against the Scandinavians?

I dunno, ask him. This isn't my RP. I just happen to be helping.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 02:08
Oh, so I can still claim South Africa without having to go through a long, drawn out insurgency against the Scandinavians?lol. you are color blind?

Well, I must say sorry you cannot claim it without a war, which is not possible due to you not having claim, but you can get Crete and Cyprus, from where you can get some jucy South American countries in a good bit. Which bring me back to my question of you being color blind so I would be able to use a color which you would well be able to disitinquish.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 02:11
Is Turkey avalaible? I like to claim it if it is able to be claimedGiven.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 02:14
Woot Turkey is mine XP
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 02:29
Woot Turkey is mine XPYou are welcome.
Dragonicale
12-04-2007, 02:36
Thanks :D...

Why is my post that said thank deleted? Oh well... Here it is :D
Mer des Ennuis
12-04-2007, 02:42
I'll take a look, but possibly the southern parts of South America. I'll look into it tonight.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 03:03
I'll take a look, but possibly the southern parts of South America. I'll look into it tonight.Kay.
Bautizar
12-04-2007, 03:19
[[ Speaking OOC: Just a note here, but if people want to get this guerrilla activity going a bit more, I'd be all for it. It was part of why I picked the DRC, Central African Republic and Uganda: the jungles are going to make it hard to fight in, rendering armor and all the sophisticated technology that we would normally use to fight each other in inter-state warfare just about useless. With the notable exception of technology specifically geared for use in a jungle environment ...

... and excluding weapons of mass destruction, of course. But I'm not at the point of detonating low-yield nuclear weapons over entire swaths of jungle that could serve a far better purpose.

I sent a telegram to Exiles of Dangari a few minutes ago where I mentioned that these guerrilla raids in Bautizaran territory are going to be taking on some Vietnam War-like characteristics. Expect to see more hilltop forward operating bases, Kindu Army Air Corps Base looking more and more like Dien Bien Phu (just without the Vietcong coming in to overrun the base), and even search-and-destroy missions. This is going to be nasty, it's going to be ugly, and it won't be over anytime soon. ]]
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 12:56
Do i have to wait to get Chad.
The Exiles of Dangari
12-04-2007, 14:12
[[ Speaking OOC: Just a note here, but if people want to get this guerrilla activity going a bit more, I'd be all for it. It was part of why I picked the DRC, Central African Republic and Uganda: the jungles are going to make it hard to fight in, rendering armor and all the sophisticated technology that we would normally use to fight each other in inter-state warfare just about useless. With the notable exception of technology specifically geared for use in a jungle environment ...

... and excluding weapons of mass destruction, of course. But I'm not at the point of detonating low-yield nuclear weapons over entire swaths of jungle that could serve a far better purpose.

I sent a telegram to Exiles of Dangari a few minutes ago where I mentioned that these guerrilla raids in Bautizaran territory are going to be taking on some Vietnam War-like characteristics. Expect to see more hilltop forward operating bases, Kindu Army Air Corps Base looking more and more like Dien Bien Phu (just without the Vietcong coming in to overrun the base), and even search-and-destroy missions. This is going to be nasty, it's going to be ugly, and it won't be over anytime soon. ]]


Yeah, this is much better than the old 'slash and hack' that's been done to death. One thing I think we should do is that if conjoined countries are going to be friendly to each other, we should open some kind of rudimentary communications. Example: if Dangaran marines are wandering around 10-15 miles into Bautizaran territory (accidently, of course) then we need some kind of official governmental announcement that this sort of thing might happen and a universal recognition sign and/or password should be agreed upon. Given at the respective nations discretion so as to prevent any and all nations from territorial encroachment.
[NS::::]Olmedreca
12-04-2007, 14:48
Problem with Chad is the fact that it is landlocked country. So its very problematical to use it as colony unless some other colonial power allows you through their territory(may easily not happen because they may be interested in capturing it themselfly at one moment).
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 20:30
But what could i get then.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 22:15
Olmedreca;12536633']Problem with Chad is the fact that it is landlocked country. So its very problematical to use it as colony unless some other colonial power allows you through their territory(may easily not happen because they may be interested in capturing it themselfly at one moment).

But what could i get then.That is whay I meant by approval as in order for you to get a colony in Africa you need to to get someone's permisison to either use their air space or their ports.

Though if you just want an American colony that would be alright, though you cannot claim more then half of Brazil.
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 22:24
I would like Bolivia
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 22:34
I would like BoliviaAre you sure as Bolivia is half taken: http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapromancelatinamericaaq3.png
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 22:37
What about Peru.
Cookesland
12-04-2007, 22:40
umm can i claim Ecuador for Aurania-Shifre?
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 22:50
What about Peru.Taken, and to ask are you color blind as if you are please tell me a color that is easy to see for your claims.

As for Peru it is not though Chile, southern Bolivia, the remains of Coloumbia, Mexico, Cuba, over 90% of Brazil, and most of the other countries are to.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 22:52
umm can i claim Ecuador for Aurania-Shifre?To ask if you are his friend please have him send me a TG if he cannot long on, if you are one of his nations then I will add it for you right now.
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 22:52
No i'm not colour blind.I can make more claims.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 22:55
No i'm not colour blind.I can make more claims.Kay, sorry :fluffle: I thought you were having trouble reading the map as the claims are in colors only.

As well, you can make more claims though, you claim three countires, except if it Argentina then you only get one more, or Brazil in which you can get no more then half without any further claims.
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 22:58
Can i also claim the Falkland islands.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 23:02
Can i also claim the Falkland islands.I see no reason why.:D
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 23:06
Ok.Which colour are you using for me.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 23:10
Ok.Which colour are you using for me.Very light green.
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 23:11
Ok i was wondering which colour was mine.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 23:25
Very light green.

Ok i was wondering which colour was mine.So first though what exactly do you want in total?
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 23:30
Peru and the Falkland islands
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 23:36
Peru and the Falkland islandsSomeone already has Peru. Though you can have Argentina and the Falkland islands.
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 23:38
Oh i just posted in the IC thread that i had Peru but i'll edit it out.I'll just take the Falkland islands
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 23:43
Oh i just posted in the IC thread that i had Peru but i'll edit it out.I'll just take the Falkland islandsOkay, you just want the Fakland islands and not any nation like Ecuador, southern Coloumbia, Argentina, Chile, half of Brazil, Mexico, Hispanola, etc.?
United kingdom2
12-04-2007, 23:45
I'll have Falkland islands for now but i might want to claim one more soon.
The Scandinvans
12-04-2007, 23:49
I'll have Falkland islands for now but i might want to claim one more soon.Alright then.
Aurania-Shifre
13-04-2007, 20:43
To ask if you are his friend please have him send me a TG if he cannot long on, if you are one of his nations then I will add it for you right now.

confirming that I am Cookesland...
The Scandinvans
14-04-2007, 00:28
confirming that I am Cookesland...Alright all is good then.
The Exiles of Dangari
14-04-2007, 00:52
Hey, can I get in on this land-grab? Chile would be cool. Any color fine.
The Scandinvans
14-04-2007, 01:09
Hey, can I get in on this land-grab? Chile would be cool. Any color fine.Granted.
Bautizar
14-04-2007, 03:47
[[ Speaking OOC: Is it possible for the countries with sizeable holdings in Africa (i.e. mine) to make a claim in South America, or would the OP prefer for us to wait and let the newcomers and smaller land-holders stake a claim? ]]
The Scandinvans
14-04-2007, 03:53
[[ Speaking OOC: Is it possible for the countries with sizeable holdings in Africa (i.e. mine) to make a claim in South America, or would the OP prefer for us to wait and let the newcomers and smaller land-holders stake a claim? ]]You may have a small claim, but nothing large then Paraguay.
Kampfers
14-04-2007, 03:57
waht countries might be left for a newcomers grab bag?
The Scandinvans
14-04-2007, 03:59
waht countries might be left for a newcomers grab bag?

possibly Argentina?No more new comers, unless by special invite for me or by support from existing members.
Bautizar
14-04-2007, 04:59
You may have a small claim, but nothing large then Paraguay.

[[ Speaking OOC: Well, you won't have to worry about that. I had my eye on present-day French Guiana. (You might be starting to guess my line of thinking ... I just happen to like those small, quiet, out-of-the-way countries rich in natural resources. Oh, and does anyone need some sugar, wheat, corn, or gold? ]]
[NS::::]Olmedreca
15-04-2007, 09:32
Scandinvans, is it fine if I start expanding my Central-America colony to Nicaragua?
The Scandinvans
15-04-2007, 17:52
Olmedreca;12545967']Scandinvans, is it fine if I start expanding my Central-America colony to Nicaragua?Sure, that would be alright as you only have a small colony.
The Scandinvans
15-04-2007, 20:12
All maps and claims updated.
United kingdom2
15-04-2007, 20:18
Can i have Mexico.
The Scandinvans
15-04-2007, 20:22
Can i have Mexico.Upside ?Tu hablo espanol?

Si, Mexico es now yours.
United kingdom2
15-04-2007, 20:25
Thanks.
The Scandinvans
15-04-2007, 20:47
Your welcome.:)
Errikland
16-04-2007, 03:26
[[ Speaking OOC: Well, you won't have to worry about that. I had my eye on present-day French Guiana. (You might be starting to guess my line of thinking ... I just happen to like those small, quiet, out-of-the-way countries rich in natural resources. Oh, and does anyone need some sugar, wheat, corn, or gold? ]]

Gold, you say?

Are any of the Guianas still available? (including the one that does not have guiana in the name)
The Scandinvans
16-04-2007, 03:33
Gold, you say?

Are any of the Guianas still available? (including the one that does not have guiana in the name)Gotta and now you have them.
Wilhelmsborough
16-04-2007, 19:06
Colonization looks like a lot of fun, but I have to ask you guys to observe my territorial claims:

-Crimean Peninsula
-Azores Islands
-New Caledonia
-Isle of Pines
-Loyalty Islands
-Belep Islands
-Huon Islands
-Tubuai Island
-Jaluit Atoll

By the way, these maps look really neat! How do you make them? Is there a website I can go to?

EDIT: I couldn't resist making a request: Could I have the Diego Garcia Atoll in the Indian Ocean?
Cookesland
16-04-2007, 20:07
could i also add the Bahamas to my claim?
ChevyRocks
16-04-2007, 20:54
Colonization looks like a lot of fun, but I have to ask you guys to observe my territorial claims:

-Crimean Peninsula
-Azores Islands
-New Caledonia
-Isle of Pines
-Loyalty Islands
-Belep Islands
-Huon Islands
-Tubuai Island
-Jaluit Atoll

By the way, these maps look really neat! How do you make them? Is there a website I can go to?

EDIT: I couldn't resist making a request: Could I have the Diego Garcia Atoll in the Indian Ocean?

I don't think there'll be a problem with your territory, as most of those are in the Pacific area (excepting the Azores and Crimea).
The Scandinvans
20-04-2007, 02:31
Colonization looks like a lot of fun, but I have to ask you guys to observe my territorial claims:

-Crimean Peninsula
-Azores Islands
-New Caledonia
-Isle of Pines
-Loyalty Islands
-Belep Islands
-Huon Islands
-Tubuai Island
-Jaluit Atoll

By the way, these maps look really neat! How do you make them? Is there a website I can go to?

EDIT: I couldn't resist making a request: Could I have the Diego Garcia Atoll in the Indian Ocean?Most of those are in the Pacfic and since I am relatively lazy can you chose a more substianl claim?:)
The Scandinvans
20-04-2007, 02:33
could i also add the Bahamas to my claim?Granted and will be in the next update.
Mussleburgh
26-04-2007, 21:50
listen!!!!!! I REALLY wanted to join Europe but no one would let me do you think I could set up my own nation some where?! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
United kingdom2
01-05-2007, 22:25
Can i have Jamaica.
The Scandinvans
02-05-2007, 00:55
Can i have Jamaica.Sorry someone already has a claim to it.:(
United kingdom2
02-05-2007, 01:03
Can i have Chile then.
The Scandinvans
02-05-2007, 01:07
Please check the map for making your next claim:

http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapromancelatinamericawl7.png
United kingdom2
02-05-2007, 01:12
How about Paraguay.
Mussleburgh
15-05-2007, 22:27
I claim cuba the island off Brazil and Florida if thats ok?:)