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This is an interest/sign-up thread for an RP idea I've been kicking around for a while.

Tolvan is an island (similar to New Zealand in geography, but larger) and as a result fishing and offshore petroleum exploration are key parts of its economy. The RP will center around the seizure of a Tolvanic fishing boat that strays a little too close to a nearby nation's waters and is boarded and impounded (wheter it was actually in your waters will be left murky, at least early on). The RP will center on diplomatic moves to get the crew released and may develop into a actual naval warfare. I have no desire for an all out war though, so no invasions or carpet bombings of cities. I'm looking for a nation around my size 300-500 million, but larger nations are ok as long as have a small navy, or only plan to use a few ships.

Complete info about my nation and military can be found on my NSWiki pages in my sig and more info about the ships I use will be providing upon request.

Any takers?

Participants:
Avrison
Kulkovia
Naasha
Olmedreca
Delesa

Avrison or Delesa will serve as our main antagonist to myself, the rest of you may support whichever side you choose, but please try to keep it even, I don't want a dogpile.

[OOC: I might be interested in some sort of role. It depends on the caliber of the rest of the people who join.]

I am interested in participating.

Sure sounds interesting, I'm happy to play any role you like.

[OOC: I might be interested in some sort of role. It depends on the caliber of the rest of the people who join.]

Cool. We really only need 2 or 3 core RPers. I'm sure plenty of people will pop in to issue statements supporting or decrying the seizure, but only a few will be allowed to send troops, even it even comes to that.

Cool. We really only need 2 or 3 core RPers. I'm sure plenty of people will pop in to issue statements supporting or decrying the seizure, but only a few will be allowed to send troops, even it even comes to that.

[OOC: Okay, here's the thing. The Avisronite military is almost like a large corporation. Avisron is a libertarian/very capitalist nation and that resulted in privatization of the armed forces. Because the Avisronite military recieves a very small amount of funds from taxpayers (at least not ENOUGH funds) it likes to create more funds by carrying out small, contracted odd jobs. There's also alot of actual private military companies within Avisron. One possibility for my involvement in the RP would be to have an Avisronite deep-sea fishing corporation say that the Tolvan (?) fishermen were hurting their business and then hiring someone to capture them. There's a ton of options though.]

I may be in supporting role on any side, that means i may send some ships to support someone but not be major player.

I am interested in participating.

What type of role would you like to play?

Sure sounds interesting, I'm happy to play any role you like.

Welcome aboard.

ooc: I'm in for sure, I will partake as a core member, either taking those fishing boats by my navy or fighting for their release. Up to you, but i would plan to use only a small portion of navy, like several submarines and fewer surface vessels.

[OOC: Okay, here's the thing. The Avisronite military is almost like a large corporation. Avisron is a libertarian/very capitalist nation and that resulted in privatization of the armed forces. Because the Avisronite military recieves a very small amount of funds from taxpayers (at least not ENOUGH funds) it likes to create more funds by carrying out small, contracted odd jobs. There's also alot of actual private military companies within Avisron. One possibility for my involvement in the RP would be to have an Avisronite deep-sea fishing corporation say that the Tolvan (?) fishermen were hurting their business and then hiring someone to capture them. There's a ton of options though.]

Tolvan is similar, very libertarian and ubercapitalistic. In fact the only thing the government really has any power to do is defend the country and enforce the laws. Everything else is largely privatised, with some governemnt assistance (things like healthcare and education).

My navy is kinda small, I can field about 20-30 ships to any one hot spot without trouble, anymore requires a large scale mobilization.

If you want the role, it's yours.

BTW: The adjective I use is Tolvanic.

Olmedreca;12521402']I may be in supporting role on any side, that means i may send some ships to support someone but not be major player.

Welcome aboard.

Delesa;12521402']ooc: I'm in for sure, I will partake as a core member, either taking those fishing boats by my navy or fighting for their release. Up to you, but i would plan to use only a small portion of navy, like several submarines and fewer surface vessels.

I offered the role to Avisron, if he doesn't take it it's yours. If he does you're more than welcome to supprot either side.

Well, Kulikovia is a Socialist nation, opposed to gross capitalism and right winged ideaologies. Perhaps that could come into play, perhaps the nation that capture the fishermen.

Naasha is a centrist to right wing nation with fairly inoffensive policies, perhaps we could mediate or assist one of the other major players.

As of now this thread is closed to active participants.

You may issue statements regarding the affair once the IC thread is posted, but you may not send ships.

Once we get the roles nailed down, I'll try to get an IC thread up later tonight.

Tolvan is similar, very libertarian and ubercapitalistic. In fact the only thing the government really has any power to do is defend the country and enforce the laws. Everything else is largely privatised, with some governemnt assistance (things like healthcare and education).

My navy is kinda small, I can field about 20-30 ships to any one hot spot without trouble, anymore requires a large scale mobilization.

If you want the role, it's yours.

BTW: The adjective I use is Tolvanic.

[OOC: Because of the Avisronite governments aforementioned uber-captailistic ideas it's very unlikely that they'd interfere with the economy of another nation. Would you be okay with the people who capture your fishermen being from a private Avisronite security corporation? That way they'd have a fairly small military. The larger Avisronite force could become involved if someone tried to attack the private security corporation, though, so it's really a complicated matter. That just makes things more fun though.]

[OOC: Actually... it might be better to have the Avisronite military do it to try to raise funds... Sorry for the confusion.]

I offered the role to Avisron, if he doesn't take it it's yours. If he does you're more than welcome to supprot either side.

alright

[OOC: Because of the Avisronite governments aforementioned uber-captailistic ideas it's very unlikely that they'd interfere with the economy of another nation. Would you be okay with the people who capture your fishermen being from a private Avisronite security corporation? That way they'd have a fairly small military. The larger Avisronite force could become involved if someone tried to attack the private security corporation, though, so it's really a complicated matter. That just makes things more fun though.]

Let me see what Delesa has in mind for the RP and I'll get back to you, but if the role goes to him, you could supply him with mercs if need be.

Delesa;12521502']alright

Let me hear what you have in mind as far a scenario and I'll let you know which one of you gets the role.

Oil is VERY popular in Delesa and we have a small area called the Virgin Isles that are rich with petroleum. Although we can't get enough. Learning of this small islands petroleum and fishing industry, my navy begins to stretch the Delesian sea claims so that area in the Tolvan sea, that contains heavy petroleum and fishing, is now Delesa seas, but the fishermen dont know about it, and the Delesian being protective of the Delesa West Trading Co. fishing and oil ships, take the fishing vessels in the area and such, its a rough outline that I just thought up.

I would have thought that you would have made a good excuse and me use it but this works as well.

Edit: Or your vessel strays too close to the Virgin Isles, and we become very protective and take the ship.

We would be interested, we only have 50-100 ships, but they are powerful ones, we are interested in the thing.

As of now this thread is closed to active participants.


Sorry, I think you're too late.

I won't be planning on sending ships or anything myself but perhaps I could position myself as a go between for the conflicting nations.

Delesa;12521639']Oil is VERY popular in Delesa and we have a small area called the Virgin Isles that are rich with petroleum. Although we can't get enough. Learning of this small islands petroleum and fishing industry, my navy begins to stretch the Delesian sea claims so that area in the Tolvan sea, that contains heavy petroleum and fishing, is now Delesa seas, but the fishermen dont know about it, and the Delesian being protective of the Delesa West Trading Co. fishing and oil ships, take the fishing vessels in the area and such, its a rough outline that I just thought up.

I would have thought that you would have made a good excuse and me use it but this works as well.

Edit: Or your vessel strays too close to the Virgin Isles, and we become very protective and take the ship.

I like this idea a lot. Tolvan contols much of the oilfeilds and fishing grounds of an area called the Southern Sea. Your nation can claim some of this area and seize one of my boats, thus bringing about the crisis.

Everyone else is free to take sides as you please, but don't all back one side.

[OOC: I actually like that idea too. It changes what side I would theoretically be on though. Avisron might not officially become involved, but it would definately see this as an attack on the sovereignty of Tolvan and act accordingly.]

[OOC: I actually like that idea too. It changes what side I would theoretically be on though. Avisron might not officially become involved, but it would definately see this as an attack on the sovereignty of Tolvan and act accordingly.]

All right then, we are set to go.

Look for an IC thread later tonight ot sometime tomorrow. I'll link here once it's up.

Here's the IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12522303#post12522303).

Also, anyone who is sending ships please post technical details in this thread. You can list numbers in the IC thread, but no need to weight it down with lengthy technical descriptions.

Here's my stats:

Kestrel class aircraft carrier:

80,000 tons
nuclear powered
Speed: 36 knots
carries 70-80 aircraft
32 VLS cells - 128 ESSM SAMs
2x 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS
2x 24 round RAM launchers


Brayton class cruisers

15,000 tons
Speed: 32 knots
AEGIS
two SH-60 helos
2x 203 guns
4x 40 cell VLS
1x 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS
1x 24 round RAM launcher
2x triple torpedo tubes


Resolute class destroyer

10,000 tons
Speed: 35 knots
AEGIS
two SH-60 helos
1x 127mm gun
1x 30mm G0alkeeper CIWS
1x 24 round RAM launcher
2x 64 cell VLS
2x triple torpedo tubes


Storm class frigates

6,800 tons
Speed: 35 knots
AEGIS
two SH-60 helos
1x 127mm gun
1x 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS
1x 24 round RAM launcher
1x 48 cell VLS
2x triple torpedo tubes


Commonwealth class corvette

5,300 tons
Speed: 42 knots
up to three H-60 helos
1x 76mm gun
1x 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS
1x 24 round RAM launcher
1x 16 cell VLS
other weapons available as part of mission modules


Wraith class attack submarine

4,800 tons
Speed: 32 knots
4x launch tubes
carries 40 weapons (mix of Mk 48 torpedoes, Reaper anti-ship missiles, or M125 mines
12x VLS cells for Tomahawk missiles


images to come later

just to make it clear the Virgin Isles are apart of my country as found in my fact book so yeah a garrison has been there for many a years.

(OOC: I'm interested in taking part as well in a supportive kind of role. I don't plan on sending in anything major, just one or two nuclear attack submarines armed with all types of fun weapons.

http://192.5.30.131/img/dpa/Sonar_EI/vanguard.jpg

Name: Courageous (CNSS-3109)
Class: Vigilance Class
Type: Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine (SSN)
Displacement: 12,800 tons
Length: 100 m (321 ft)
Beam: 12 m (39.37 ft)
Draught: 10 m (33 ft)
Propulsion: S11G reactor, 2400 kilowatt backup diesel-electric generator
Speed: 36+ knots
Test Depth: 800 m test, 1200 m crush
Complement: 19 officer, 84 enlisted
Armament: 8x 533mm torpedo tubes (36 Spearfish torpedoes, top speed of 80+ knots; 12 USM-11 Apparition anti-ship missiles, range 200 km)
8x SMk. 15 VLS (16 CMA-89 Titan cruise missiles, range 1200 km)
4x UAM (16 AAM-11 Ranger anti-air missiles, range 250 km)
Sensors: CKA-529G active/passive suite
Astute type towed array sonar
Atlas Hydrographic DESO 25 depth-finding echosounder
2 x Opti CM6010 periscopes
Successor IFF system
Countermeasures: Varied types)

Delesa;12522465']just to make it clear the Virgin Isles are apart of my country as found in my fact book so yeah a garrison has been there for many a years.

I misread and will edit the post accordingly.

For reference the Culver Islands are kinda like the Falklands. However, there is no indigenous population, everyon is a Tolvanic citizen, and most are either from the mainland (such as it is) or decended from someone who was. Most people are fishermen or work on the oil platforms in the Southern Sea. I do have military bases there though, but nothing major.

alright the first post is just kinda an opener so yeah not too great for a first post but yeah im tired and will be headinf in for the night.

Somewhat willing (mostly from boredom and inexperance with actual naval battles on NS)

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Geography is essentially New Guinea...

Navy is 'large', though most of their forces are bordering Blackhelm Confederacy for legitimate IC reasons.

Chances are the conflict would start with one of my trigger happy Privateers shooting up some of your ships, a warship counter-attacks, hostilities go up, and then we see who is more willing to take losses.

I don't use SDs, most/all of my aircraft carriers are bordering BC, so those aren't a consideration.

That leaves submarines, privateers, destroyers, and a few cruisers.

Edit:
Venturing too close to New Roanoke Island Proving grounds sound OK?
(Followed by your forces apparently seeing how close they can get to my shores unopposed while mine attempt to prevent this or do the same to you.)

Further edit: sorry.

Once again, this thread is closed to new participants.

However, once something happens in the IC thread, feel free to issue official governemnt statements and the like but I'm trying to avoid this incident turning into World War Whatever Number NS on now.

So I was 6 to 12 hours too late...

Didn't notice IC thread was started already until 10 minutes after my original reply.

The IC thread looks quite good BTW (okay, it looks great)

[OOC: I need some sort of different role in all of this. It's hard for me to stay interested in a plot where Avisron is essentially fighting over philosophy. Maybe Avisron could try to establish a buffer zone between the two national waters in order to get access to oil or something? Ideas?]

Can I send like, a submarine and a few destroyers over to "monitor" or is this fully closed already?

I'm not sure if my nation has a role in this RP. I was originally thinking about an ELINT type incursion into your islands or maybe just a nosy submariner?

Can I send like, a submarine and a few destroyers over to "monitor" or is this fully closed already?

I've closed it to new participants, but if someone goes inactive I'll TG you to see if you're still interested, just don't send too many ships because your navy would wipe out everyone involved with little trouble I suspect.

Same for you Five Civilized Nations, if any of the apporved RPers go inactive or something I'll let you know.

I'm trying to avoid the common NS problem of minor skirmishes involving half the world.

crap i posted one minute after you

Since it's been two days and only myself and Delesa have posted i nthe IC thread, I'm opening this up to Questers and Five Civilized Nations.

sorry i have been a little busy and sick

[[ Speaking OOC: Delesa, nice to see you again. Still working FT with the Halo-esque technology? :cool:

I was checking the forums and spotted this OOC discussion list. If it's still closed to new participants, I'm fine with that. If it's open though I was wondering about tying it in with the Africa continent RP that started up today (see this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523604) for more details), from Bautizar's angle at least.

All the naval activity and rising tensions could be either close to or right underneath the route between the State and its soon-to-be holdings in Africa. Which would make the corporations nervous, and would probably be cause to start to listen in with satellites and maybe an E-8C JSTARS and/or an AWACS to collect intelligence information and keep an eye on the neighborhood. (I don't have P-3 Orions yet ... going to be buying some though for patrol/reconnaissance work in the African colonies.) ]]

Since it's been two days and only myself and Delesa have posted i nthe IC thread, I'm opening this up to Questers and Five Civilized Nations.

Sweet. Is there like, an IC thread?

[[ Speaking OOC: Delesa, nice to see you again. Still working FT with the Halo-esque technology? :cool:

I was checking the forums and spotted this OOC discussion list. If it's still closed to new participants, I'm fine with that. If it's open though I was wondering about tying it in with the Africa continent RP that started up today (see this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523604) for more details), from Bautizar's angle at least.

All the naval activity and rising tensions could be either close to or right underneath the route between the State and its soon-to-be holdings in Africa. Which would make the corporations nervous, and would probably be cause to start to listen in with satellites and maybe an E-8C JSTARS and/or an AWACS to collect intelligence information and keep an eye on the neighborhood. (I don't have P-3 Orions yet ... going to be buying some though for patrol/reconnaissance work in the African colonies.) ]]

Tolvan, this guys RPing is a good read, he should be allowed to RP, it's really good stuff.

And no i'm not doing the FT anymore, i just dont like it as much as MT or PT.:rolleyes: How you been? Taking the universe over all in the name of the commonwealth still?

Delesa;12529642']Tolvan, this guys RPing is a good read, he should be allowed to RP, it's really good stuff.

And no i'm not doing the FT anymore, i just dont like it as much as MT or PT.:rolleyes: How you been? Taking the universe over all in the name of the commonwealth still?

[[ Speaking OOC: *chuckles* Nice to be remembered, and thanks for the recommendation.

To answer your other question, I'm doing well, thanks for asking. Had to leave NS for a bit because of real-life complications :rolleyes:, but I'm back now. And I'm not doing FT any more either; working with MT now, which I consider more relevant and a hell of a lot more fun. (A big defense budget always helps, but I just have to be careful not to uber-wank my military to the point where people go "uhh ... can you really afford all that equipment?")

No problems, I liked your style plain and simple.

Yeah MT is so much better its just... closer to home :p

Sweet. Is there like, an IC thread?

IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12522303#post12522303)

Bautizar welcome aboard, we need some quality RPers.

:p

[[ Speaking OOC: Tolvan, check your telegrams. I sent something to you about 20 seconds ago. ]]

My submarine is on approach to join in on the fracas. Delesa, I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty of also using one of my supertankers to help transport the oil your drilling.

No thats ok, we can just say that the DWT hired vessels from out of country until they could get more tankers built.

edit: well its looks like you did that :p, but the virgin islands are were the conflict is, it where my bvase of operations for the DWT and oiling is. The Virgin Isles are my own islands, loaded with their own oil deposits.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/seanmyhre/delesamap-1.jpg

Notice in the bottom right, I believe for the sake of this RP that the southern seas, are east of the Virgin Isles, if thats alright with Tolvan.

And Tolvan to clear the conflict, I wouldn't mind making a map of the area surrounding the Virgin Isles to your country, hence in the end i could cut out the VI and then you would have a map.

Basically my nation is located where New Zealnd is RL, the Culver Islands are located sotuh of that, near where whatever the NS version of Anartica is, hence the reason why the Culver Islands are frozen tundra.

I'll try to make a map tonight and get it posted, my map making skills are limited to say the least.

:D alright, btw do you have Aim or Hotmail? Any of you?

Delesa;12544674']:D alright, btw do you have Aim or Hotmail? Any of you?

I have MSN, TG me and I'll give you my screen name.

PS: It might be a day or two on a map, and even then i an assure you it will suck. ;)

Done

For RP-purposes, which Virgin Islands port do you want me to use?

Dawson

edit: your supertanker should be able to move up to about 3 clicks away from the first island before tugs come out to help. The sea bed had been lowered by that sea machine i dont remember the name off the top of my head, but its a new project and the lane is thin, hence the tugs are there. Not to mention the super tankers have props on port and starboard near the bow right?

Uh . . . No . . . Most supertankers only have one propeller and are very efficient shipping oil because of it. Mine has two propellers, but because of the fact that it's an older ship and it's laden with oil, it's slow.

It's generally a good idea to allow the supertanker to keep its distance. Even with two hulls, accidents are bad, especially when filled to the brim with oil.

I could swear there have those side props for better maneuverability... Anyways, for this RP we could say that the Harbour in Dawson isn't complete with the dredging or what ever it is called, and that it can't take supertankers, to we anchor your ship off the islands and have smaller tankers take the oil in the rest of the way. Or we could just have you redirect to Port Hustlings, our largest port.

The former sounds fun. More chance for big explosions! :)

Former?

As in the first choice. The latter is the second choice.

I am sorry that i have been inactive for a while, i have been meaning to reply to Tolvan and 5CN but soccer has kept me reallllll busy, im now the captain of the school team with no real coach, so me and my buddy have been doing everything. Not to mention my competitive team.

No worries, life always comes first.

Sorry about the last couple of days. My login issues returned and I couldn’t access the forums to post.

no prob

Delesa;12567856']
Devon, Naval Command Outpost, Eastern Virgin Isles

Devon was a small place, less then a thousand people. And yet the strategic position of the town was so cruital to the integrity of the Commonwealth homeland. The even smaller outpost had but a single dock, a wooden dock. Like one you might see at the beach nothing more.

But like most things in the world, looks can be deceiving. The small building that the Department of Defence had there was loaded to the brim with the best equipment that the department could buy. Meaning that the lack of personal was no problem, as the station ran itself apart from the timely repairs. A young operator, who would rather sit behind a desk in one of the most remote places then be on the front line of the conflict, sat back in his chair. His ipod plugged up to the speaker system, much like the MC1 in a submarine. The other operator was dancing at his station, using a pen as a microphone. Then a small blip showed on the screen. Ofcourse the operators were in the moment opf the music, and didn't even bother to notice the blip. It was 3rd Fleet Headquarters that noticed the blip first. The small station was also monitored in Acton. And when the Admiral heard the news from his own personal before the station had phoned in, he began to grow weary of the lack of disipline of the local recruits that thought they were good enough to man such an important installation and that none of the experianced officers were there that shift. But from his desk he ordered a P-3 Orion to investigate. Although is wasn't all that necessary, as the contact was heading straight from them at a speed of 20 knots. That was loud enough for the simplest of instruments to pick up. So at the same time he ordered a Visby Class Corvette and a Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser to intercept and identify. The two ships were more then enough to handle a single contact, the Visby could probaly do it herself but a Seawolf Class Attack Submarine was also ordered to change her patrol to intercept behind the the other two ships. If this was a enemy, she was dead in the water.

5CN, you might have missed this

I didn’t miss it, I just mistyped something in my post. I’ll add some more stuff so that you can react.