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AMI Industries F/A-103 "Stanza" Strike Fighter

Asgarnieu
04-04-2007, 21:42
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Introduction

The F/A-103 is a new supercruise strike fighter designed by Asgarnian Military Industries. Once sold exclusively to Asgarnian military forces, an export version has been build to be sold internationally.

The aircraft comes in two export variant versions: Air Force and Naval/Marine. The air force version is most suitable for air and air defense forces, whilst the naval (or marine) version has been modified to be used on aircraft carriers.

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Brief History

The F/A-103 was created to extend the capabilites of the new, reformed Asgarnian Air Force. It was originally planned to be a large, slow-moving attacker, but after the retirement of all foreign aircraft from Asgarnian service, a cumbersome aircraft like that would not be acceptable.

The F/A-103, originally called the X-165FA Program, was kicked off with a single unit being manufactured. It was dubbed X-165. It began comprehensive flight tests and weapons tests.

Originally, the X-165 carred a single 20mm, seven internal hardpoints, and two external hardpoints--usually reserved for drop-tanks. However, flight tests proved that the aircraft was capable of carrying much more whilst still being highly usable. The guns were upgraded to two 27mm cannons with 360 rounds each, one 37mm slow-fire cannon with 125 rounds, a single internal eight position missile rack, and four external hardpoints.

After the X-165 recieved the modifications, flight tests were re-performed. The aircraft flew with exceptional results.

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Specifications

Accommodation: One or Two depending on variant
Length: 18.80 Meters (61.67 Feet)
Wingspan: 13.77 Meters (45.17 Feet)
Height: 5.01 Meters (16.4 Feet)
Weight:
-Standard Takeoff Weight: 11,876 Kg (26,182 Lbs)
-Maximum Takeoff Weight: 35,660 Kg (78,617 Lbs)
Powerplant Type: FNX-5010-H/J David & David Afterburning Turbofans
Powerplant Output (each): 10,692 Kg (23,572 Lbs)
-Afterburner: 15,209 Kg (33,530 Lbs.)
Speed:
-Cruise Speed: Mach 1.9 (1,457 M.P.H./2,346 K.P.H.)
-Maximum Speed: Mach 3.1 (2,378 M.P.H./3,828 K.P.H.)
Range: 5,680 Kilometers* (3,035 Miles*; essentially unlimited due to in-flight refueling)
Fuselage Load Limit: 9 G +
Maximum Altitude: 18,000 Meters (59,055 Feet)
Armament: 23mm cannons with 350 rounds each (x 2), 8-shot rotating internal firing canister (x 1), four external hardpoints
Price: $30,000,000.00 USD (Air Force variant), $32,000,000.00 USD (Navy/Marine variant)

*=With external fuel drop-tanks.

Discounts


GASN-5%
ADAN-5%
TITO/Ten Thousand Islands-5%
CIN-5%
UNA-5%
Anti-Hataria Coalition-10%


Other Information

Equipment

The aircraft is equipped with over-the-horizon radar systems, can be fitted with jamming equipment, comes standard with chaff dispensers at the aft and flare launchers. It also features a highly-advanced avionics and electronics suite. The cockpit features an "all-glass" display system, and has a back-up HUD that pops up on the console.

Survivability

It uses a titanium "bathtub" similar to that of the A-10, and is painted with a radar-absorbent material to reduce radar signature. The aircraft has triple-redundancy throughout the entire system, and is EMP hardened. The exhaust nozzles are thermally protected to reduce the thermal signature. Right angles are reduced on the aircraft to assist in reducing the aircraft's radar signature, but it is not a 100% stealth aircraft. There is a rear-facing radar system that allows the aircraft to detect the presence of enemy aircraft at the aft of the jet. There is also a standard smoke dispenser to confuse enemy aircraft attempting to fire. The smokescreen temporarily confuses enemy pilots, allowing the aircraft to escape in most circumstances.

Combat

The aircraft uses an infrared seeker on the underside of the fuselage to detect enemy aircraft's heat signatures. This allows the aircraft to engage most aircraft without using radar, which alerts enemies to the presence of the aircraft. The aircraft is also rated to perform extremely high-G manouvers without comprimising power; however, there is a slight bleed of speed whilst engaging in high-speed turns. The aircraft uses a smarter HUD that automatically suggests the ordinance that will perform the best, and alerts the pilot to the best time to fire said ordinance.

Engines

The FNX-5010-H/J David & David Afterburning Turbofan engine is the most powerful engine system available for export by Asgarnieu. It features a thrust-vectoring system that greatly increases the aircraft manouverability. The aircraft is supercruise capable and has a top speed of Mach 3.1 when the afterburners are engaged.

Spare Parts

With many air forces finding a drastic shortage of aircraft parts, the designers of the F/A-103 designed a spare part package, included with each aircraft. It contains two each of the most commonly damaged parts. A spare airframe can be obtained for $500,000.00 (each) through this ad.

Weapons

The weapons are completely modular on this aircraft, and can be modified at the buyer's will.

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Other Variants


F/A-103A (Single-seat attack variant)
F/A-103B (Tandem-seat variant with nuclear capability)
F/A-103C (Single-seat variant for the air force)
F/A-103E (Air Force/Naval) (Export variant, classified materials and equipment removed)
F/A-103N (Single-seat variant for the navy)
YF/A-103Z (Unmanned trial model)
X-165 (Original model)


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Nations/Military Branches using F/A-103's


Asgarnieu (Air Force, Navy)
Terre Nationale (Air Force, under MiG-103)
Siriusa (Air Force, Navy)
Fornelia (Air Force)


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(OOC: DO YOUR OWN MATH. Also, this is an MT/Early PMT aircraft. Post any suggestions or comments, all are appreciated. I will also modify the export version to a nation's liking; i.e. weapons, special equipment, etc...)
Terre Nationale
04-04-2007, 21:51
The Facist Dominion of Terre Nationale wishes to purchase the following:

100 F/A-103 Airforce Variant

Total Cost: 1.6 Billion USD

New designation:
MiG-103
imported_Illior
04-04-2007, 21:55
OOC: Sorry, but I'm gonna call BS... It's virtually impossible to have a 16 million dollar fighter go mach 3.1. The construction and material costs themselves are going to be in the 40-60 mil range minimum, and then there's labor, systems costs, R&D payoff costs and Profits to think of as well... a better price would range from 55-100 million depending on the quality of matierials, systems, construction and R&D behind the aircraft.

EDIT: as well, 2 27mm and a 37mm cannon would weigh the aircraft down incredibly, increase maintenance, decrease the amount of rounds in the aircraft etc. 1 27mm cannon, or a 30mm would do perfectly with 500 rounds. you don't need more than that.
Terre Nationale
04-04-2007, 21:56
OOC: Sorry, but I'm gonna call BS... It's virtually impossible to have a 16 million dollar fighter go mach 3.1. The construction and material costs themselves are going to be in the 40-60 mil range minimum, and then there's labor, systems costs, R&D payoff costs and Profits to think of as well... a better price would range from 55-100 million depending on the quality of matierials, systems, construction and R&D behind the aircraft.

{OOC: Shhh, be quiet! I want a good, cheap aircraft. So what if he loses a few bucks.}
imported_Illior
04-04-2007, 22:04
{OOC: Shhh, be quiet! I want a good, cheap aircraft. So what if he loses a few bucks.}

OOC: Well... if you want an aircraft that won't lift off of the ground because it falls apart as soon as you turn it on, OK...
Asgarnieu
04-04-2007, 22:04
OOC: Sorry, but I'm gonna call BS... It's virtually impossible to have a 16 million dollar fighter go mach 3.1. The construction and material costs themselves are going to be in the 40-60 mil range minimum, and then there's labor, systems costs, R&D payoff costs and Profits to think of as well... a better price would range from 55-100 million depending on the quality of matierials, systems, construction and R&D behind the aircraft.

EDIT: as well, 2 27mm and a 37mm cannon would weigh the aircraft down incredibly, increase maintenance, decrease the amount of rounds in the aircraft etc. 1 27mm cannon, or a 30mm would do perfectly with 500 rounds. you don't need more than that.

OOC: Fixing. But did you really have to call "BS"? Couldn't you have just said "hey, fix..."? Ease up! We're all "friends" here!

Thank you though. I was unsure of the price, so I went off a few numbers on the F-35...

Since we utilize the work force of prisoners to assist in the construction of the planes, the price goes down considerably.
imported_Illior
04-04-2007, 22:07
OOC: Fixing. But did you really have to call "BS"? Couldn't you have just said "hey, fix..."? Ease up! We're all "friends" here!

Thank you though. I was unsure of the price, so I went off a few numbers on the F-35...

OOC: Naw, in a crappy mood... School=brainfry, and the F-35's even projected to cost more than that... more like 55-70 mil with a top speed of M2.7
Asgarnieu
04-04-2007, 22:08
OOC: Sorry about your bad mood. Fixed, but I added two 23mm cannons with 350 each.

Price has been lifted, so place orders...NOW!
Asgarnieu
04-04-2007, 22:40
Official Bump.
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 01:19
Official news: prices dropped to allow smaller nations to purchase the aircraft as well.
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 02:10
Official Bump.

(No-one buying?)
Terre Nationale
05-04-2007, 02:11
{OOC: Too expensive for my taste. I might reconsider if NSTracker was working.}
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 02:14
Dropped it to 30 mil each, so smaller nations can get a handful for a good price. Besides, we use prisoner labor. Lets the price ease up...
Terre Nationale
05-04-2007, 02:16
We will purchase the following

50 F/A-103

Total Cost: 1.6 Bil USD

New Designation:
MiG-103
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 02:20
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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Terre Nationale
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order of 50 F/A-103 (we assume Air Force variants...) Stanza fighter aircraft has been confirmed.

The delivery will commence immediately and will be completed within the next few weeks.

Thank you for your patronage.
Siriusa
05-04-2007, 02:43
The Principality of Siriusa would be interested in buying 50 of these new planes for test flights. We would like them to be the Air Force version. We may be purchasing some of the navy version later, but that is all for now.

The total comes to 1,500,000,000 USD, which will be wired upon the confirmation of this order.
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 02:56
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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Siriusa
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order of 50 Air Force variant F/A-103 Stanza fighter aircraft has been confirmed.

The delivery will commence immediately and will be completed within the next few weeks.

Thank you for your patronage.
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 04:45
Official Bump.
Terre Nationale
05-04-2007, 05:01
{OOC: Is NSTracker working for you?}
The PeoplesFreedom
05-04-2007, 05:06
{OOC: Is NSTracker working for you?}

OCC: It seems that both NStracker and thirdgeek have been down for some time =[
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 05:09
OOC: Last time I used NSTracker was last month...

Any ideas on what went wrong. And, isn't XML O.K.?
Eralineta
05-04-2007, 05:38
A nice craft over all. I'm not sure about the turbo-fan limit of Mach 3.1, but I've never seen them tested that high. I can't help, but wonder. No PDE? Sleek and refined, should definately have a skimmed radar cross-section, but not much that I would think is ultimately....amazing. Do you have RFM on the side or something as well? In any case RAM is a good precaution, the plane is pretty good.

Just one thing: Range?
Asgarnieu
05-04-2007, 05:40
Uhmm, can you take out the acronyms? I have NO idea what you are saying.

Range is essentially unlimited due to in-flight refueling. I'll put up a section for it, though.
Eralineta
05-04-2007, 06:06
Thanks. Just wondering about the range. I was almost expecting to see pulse-detonation engines on the plane. Though I also have to make the point that the thermals from the plane might take away its 'stealthy' properties, but at that speed (comparable to the SR-71), nothing will really touch it.

Does the fuel leak like the SR-71 though?
Asgarnieu
06-04-2007, 01:49
Official Bump.

OOC: The fuel tanks do not leak. None-the-less, the engines are fairly economical. The Mach 3.1 is only obtained when the afterburner is engaged, however. You get a decent supercruise though. That's why it is a multi-role aircraft.

Now, the aircraft is not meant to be 100% stealthy. It only has a reduced radar signature. It is sort of like the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer. It utilizes stealthy components, but is not completely stealth.
Asgarnieu
06-04-2007, 22:58
Official Bump.
Asgarnieu
07-04-2007, 21:58
Official Bump.
Terre Nationale
07-04-2007, 22:03
Great Plane :D
Asgarnieu
07-04-2007, 22:50
Thanks. I try...

Official Bump.
Siriusa
11-04-2007, 23:24
Siriusa would like to purchase 150 more of these aircraft. All will be the regular Air Force variant. 4.5 billion USD has been wired to you, and we will await your confirmation of our order.

Furthermore, we would like to congradulate you on making a superb fighter.

OOC: I may be buying a couple more in the future, just so you know.
Kasara
12-04-2007, 00:48
Official Fornelian Transmission:

The Corporate Monarchy of Fornelia would like to purchase 30 of these new fighters. Our air force was long neglected and with a new defense budget and constantly increasing fighter capabilities, we are interested. We would purchase more, but to be honest, with all the new planes we need to make sure we leave room for other aircraft that may be acquired. The total comes to 900 Million USD. The appropriate payment will be wired upon confirmation of order.
Asgarnieu
12-04-2007, 02:45
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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Siriusa
CC: Fornelia
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Greetings. Your orders have been confirmed. They will ship at the following rates:

SHIPPING ESTIMATES

-Siriusa: Four weeks
-Fornelia: One week and three days

Thank you for purchasing the F/A-103 Stanza.
Siriusa
16-04-2007, 00:35
The Principality of Siriusa would like to purchase 200 Air Force variant F/A-103s and 400 Navy variant F/A 103s. The total funds for this purchase ($18,800,000,000) will be wired to you upon confirmation of this order.
Asgarnieu
16-04-2007, 05:04
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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Siriusa
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order of 200 Air Force variant F/A-103 Stanza fighter aircraft and 400 Navy variant F/A-103 Stanza fighters have been confirmed.

The delivery will commence immediately and will be completed within the month.

Thank you for your patronage.
Velkya
16-09-2007, 17:56
(OOC: NS grade SAMs and AAMs can easily intercept a Mach 3 aircraft, what with the gigantic IR signature they make.

And I'd be pretty wary of any precision industrial product manufactured by prison labor...)
Cazelia
16-09-2007, 18:05
We wish to purchase 300 F/A-103 strike fighters

they will be re-designated the F/A-14
The Order of America
16-09-2007, 20:27
To: AMI Industries
From: The OoA Department of Military Transactions

We are extremely Impressed with This Air Craft, & as we are updating our Inadequate Air Force we wish to Purchase 15,000 Units in the Air force Variant and 1,000 Units in the Naval Variant. This Bring Our Total Amount Due to 610 Billion in USD. If there is any Problem with our Order please inform my nation and we will adjust our Order accordingly.
Shesharlie
16-09-2007, 20:42
OOC: I have little time to make this fancy, sorry
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Shesharlie wishes to purchase 10 F/A-103B naval variants @ $32,000,000.00 USD each.

SubTotal: $320,000,000
5% XKI Islands discount: $1,600,000

TOTAL: $30,400,000

Thankyou.
Bredford
16-09-2007, 21:14
We are interested in buying the rights to the aircraft (not DPR), that means that as soon as you agree (and give us the price for the aircraft rights) we are the only one allowable to sell the aircraft, and the aircraft plans are ours.
Hurtful Thoughts
16-09-2007, 21:19
wow, I post a link to a thread where I 'destroy' 8 of these before they even fire a shot, and business booms over here...

Well, it is an impressive plane...
And I really should expand my air force, considerably...
And the weapons bay can accomodate my 35 mm cannons...

-Purchases Su-34 from TWSP instead
(Joking, of course)

-Chances are he'd invade you before he'd sell full rights.
Calizorinstan
16-09-2007, 22:39
To: AMI Industries
From: The Calizorinstanian Secretary of Defense, Terry Max

We wish to procure 4,000 F/A-103 Stanza Strike Fighters for the Calizorinstan Air Force for 120 billion, we have wired the money to you in advance payment.

Terry Max
Calizorinstanian Secretary of Defense
Calizorinstan
Asgarnieu
17-09-2007, 02:24
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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Cazelia
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order has been confirmed. Thank you for your patronage.

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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Order of America
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order has been confirmed. Thank you for your patronage.

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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Shesharlie
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order has been confirmed. We are pleased to see a fellow Islander purchasing our equipment. Thank you for your patronage.

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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Bredford
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Rights

Our company does not sell full rights to any other company or nation. The rights to the aircraft are available only to nation with close diplomatic ties, and even then, they are only Domestic Production Rights.

As defined by the Asgarnian Common Law Statute 404.55T, Section 2, Paragraph 5; companies supplying the Asgarnian Armed Forces are not permitted to sell anything but reduced-tech DPR's to other nations for domestic production.

Also, the full rights to the F/A-103 system are incredibly expensive, and your nation would not be able to afford it.

Thank you for your interest. Your nation is more than welcome to purchase export units of the aircraft just like all other nations.

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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Calizorinstan
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order has been confirmed. Thank you for your patronage.
Greal
17-09-2007, 03:29
Greal would like to buy 300 F/A-103 Airforce Variant for 9 billion.
Asgarnieu
17-09-2007, 04:22
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OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE

To: Greal
From: AMI Industries
Subject: Purchase

Your order has been confirmed. Thank you for your patronage.
Siriusa
17-09-2007, 05:46
To: AMI
From: Siriusan Military Arm

Greetings,

Your aircraft has met and exceeded expectations in our Air Force. As such, we would like to purchase the Domestic Production Rights to the F/A 103-Stanza Strike Fighter. If they are not available, we will instead purchase a rather large quantity of aircraft (the amount will be determined later). Please let us know of DPR availability.

Sincerely,
Chang Hu
First Advisor to the Prince
Head of Military Arm
Siriusa
Bredford
17-09-2007, 13:50
If so, the Bredford Air Force is interested in aquiring 100 aircraft from the airforce variation.

total price comes to NS$3,000,000,000 (3 billion NS dollars.)