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Hello customer! Welcome to the Kampferian Naval Emporium. Here we sell many ships to the public that were originally designed for the Kampferian Army. If you would like to buy an order of these ships, fill out the following order form:

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Average shipping time is 2 months per ship. We need the money wired to our offices before work can begin. Thank you for shopping today.

Death Row Destroyer

Displacement:
14,165 tons

Builder:
Kampferian Naval Emporium

Power Plant:
Integrated Power System
78 megawatts Installed power
Two large 35-megawatt generators
Two small 4-megawatt generators

Length:
600 feet

Beam:
79.1 feet

Draft:
27.6 feet

Armament:
2 - 155mm Advanced Gun System
920 - 155mm ERGM rounds
80 - PVLS cells

Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile
Tactical Tomahawk Block IV
Advanced Land Attack Missile


Systems:
SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
Volume Search Radar
Acoustic Sensor Suite
EO/IR System
Naval Surface Fire Support Weapon Control System

Speed:
30+ knots

Endurance:
6000 nm

Crew:
Threshold: 150
[vice traditional = 350]

Aircraft:
2 SH-60 LAMPS helicopters or
1 MH-60R helicopter
3 RQ-8A Fire Scout VTUAV

Special Features:
Sleek hull deflects radar, creating a disturbance only the size of a golf ball
Shallow hull allows destroyer to maneuver in waters as shallow as 13 meters
Helicopter landing pad on the back of destroyer, can also be used with vertical take-off and landing planes
Dual-band radar system, 15 times stronger than single-band systems

Price:
$1,200,000,000

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A Destroyer that cost only $25 000 000 could only mean bad things...

ooc: why? too expensive?

ooc: why? too expensive?

No, way way to cheap.

ooc:fine.
does 1.2 billion do it for you?

Special Features:
Sleek hull deflects radar, creating a disturbance only the size of a golf ball
Shallow hull allows destroyer to maneuver in waters as shallow as 13 meters
Helicopter landing pad on the back of destroyer, can also be used with vertical take-off and landing planes
Dual-band radar system, 15 times stronger than single-band systems

You

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6669/faileh8.jpg

A stealth ship for 1.2 bil? You godmod its appearance!?
Shallow hull = better maneuvers and go in shallow water!? LOL
Helicopter on a stealth ship... commanche? LOL
Dual band radar system...you have no idea what you are even talking about. That's TWO bands. Meaning it is not stronger then any other...and infact... is inherantly WEAKER because you have two. So therefore one will not be as useful as the other.

ooc: you have no freaking clue what your talking about. A dual band radar system can pick up even the smallest blips, such as a small boat trying to make a suicidal attack or a bomber who only appears the size of a bird. You fail, dimwit. If you have to know, it is based of the new US Navy DD(X) Destroyer and I'm pretty sure they could kick your sorry little a$$ any day.

ooc: you have no freaking clue what your talking about. A dual band radar system can pick up even the smallest blips, such as a small boat trying to make a suicidal attack or a bomber who only appears the size of a bird. You fail, dimwit. If you have to know, it is based of the new US Navy DD(X) Destroyer and I'm pretty sure they could kick your sorry little a$$ any day.

Band strength means range when interpretted as you did. Your radar is not going to be 15x better because of 'duel-band'. Its simple. When using anything in the GHZ range the radar can pick it up yes, but not to the same effect as longer band widths. The longer the bandwidth the farther the radar goes. It is trapped in the Inosphere* and bounces around at long wavelengths.

What you are saying is that your radar is 15x stronger then a single band, which is clearly not the case. You can't compare it to a single band at all. However the range of the two frequencies makes clear differences, you radar systems are seperate and used at the same time, not one or the other. Please know how your radar works before telling me how I am wrong.

ooc: *throws the ns draftroom at Kampfer* (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=idx)
Join that, it'll do you a world of good.

Eralineta = Sparta Infensus?

Helicopter on a stealth ship... commanche? LOL


Nothing wrong with stealthy ships having a helo deck, infact i can't think of a single stealthy/LO design above the size or a corvette or missile boat that doesn't have one

Kampfers: generally it isn't an ideal process to blantantly copy and past stuff from RL units, these isn't a rule agaisnt it persay but it is generally preffered if you put either little more effort to personalise the design or make it very clear where the stats come from.

Here are the problems with your design in my own opinion and some suggestions to improve them.

Average shipping time is 2 months per ship.
^too short, lengthen the time it takes you to build the ships greatly

Sleek hull deflects radar, creating a disturbance only the size of a golf ball
^no way, this is a big ship on the waves, make it the disturbance only the "size of a small yacht"


Dual-band radar system, 15 times stronger than single-band systems
^claim it is 1 time "stronger" if you want...

Nothing wrong with stealthy ships having a helo deck, infact i can't think of a single stealthy/LO design above the size or a corvette or missile boat that doesn't have one

Kampfers: generally it isn't an ideal process to blantantly copy and past stuff from RL units, these isn't a rule agaisnt it persay but it is generally preffered if you put either little more effort to personalise the design or make it very clear where the stats come from.

Or do what I'm doing with my upcoming storefront and just mix RL images with your own stats. My Brayton class cruiser looks like a DDX, but has 203 mm guns, 160 VLS cells, and is bigger. I only use RL images because i lack the skill to make my own.

Nothing wrong with stealthy ships having a helo deck, infact i can't think of a single stealthy/LO design above the size or a corvette or missile boat that doesn't have one

Kampfers: generally it isn't an ideal process to blantantly copy and past stuff from RL units, these isn't a rule agaisnt it persay but it is generally preffered if you put either little more effort to personalise the design or make it very clear where the stats come from.

I was laughing about his helicopter on a ship that costs 1.2 bil that just lost a large amount of its low radar signature because he happened to put something much larger then the ship can hold.

The ship has no use for all its energy or half of its other stats. They are random without thought.

Also. Who's Sparta infensus?

OOC:
why would it not be big enough for its helos?

As for the stats, they make more or less perfect sense since they are taken directly from the RL DDx/DDG-1000 specs on global security.
The random editorial at the end did show a complete lack of udnerstanding, particularly the bit about radar bit but to be honest it all doesn't sound that far off some of the marketing speil that the DDG-1000 has had.

OOC:
why would it not be big enough for its helos?

As for the stats, they make more or less perfect sense since they are taken directly from the RL DDx/DDG-1000 specs on global security.
The random editorial at the end did show a complete lack of udnerstanding, particularly the bit about radar bit but to be honest it all doesn't sound that far off some of the marketing speil that the DDG-1000 has had.

The fact it showed a complete lack of understanding is just that. Though a true stealth ship (with the radar the size of a golfball (lol godmod)) definately won't have a helicopter pad. No way at all. That's means you have a flat surface...a big flat surface. It was this that made me laugh. Also as the hull is clearly not the same. You need a SWATH design to be that stealthy.