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Metal Storm Inc

Kampfers
31-03-2007, 02:32
The sole producer of Metal Storm weapons is finally available to trade with all of NS!

Our wares:

Metal Storm Cannon-
Mounted on the back of a jeep, humvee, or other vehicle, this gun fires over a million rounds a minute.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Metal_Storm_Cannon

Metal Storm Handheld
Same as the cannon, but a handheld version. Much lighter, and only fires 600,000 rounds a minute.
Eralineta
31-03-2007, 02:34
The sole producer of Metal Storm weapons is finally available to trade with all of NS!

Our wares:

Metal Storm Cannon-
Mounted on the back of a jeep, humvee, or other vehicle, this gun fires over a million rounds a minute.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Metal_Storm_Cannon

Metal Storm Handheld
Same as the cannon, but a handheld version. Much lighter, and only fires 600,000 rounds a minute.

Not sole producer.
Not original.
Poor Information.

Are you even taking this seriously?
Greston
31-03-2007, 02:53
i would love to trade with you
Greston
31-03-2007, 02:54
i would like to make deal with you whenever you make another weapon or inteligence thing you sell it to me
Kampfers
31-03-2007, 02:56
Good. We will need an official order, however. We are currently ready to ship. Vehicle mountable systems ship for the small cost of 1.2 million per, and handheld versions ship for .5 million per.
Greston
31-03-2007, 03:02
5million per weapon!?
Kurona
31-03-2007, 03:06
I think it's only a half million

We would like some of these weapons
Kampfers
31-03-2007, 03:09
Yes, it is only half a million. I will need official orders including the number of weapons, country names, and where the shipments are to be delivered.
Kurona
31-03-2007, 03:16
of course:


ORDER: THE PRINCIPALITY OF KURONA

Ammount: 100

Deliver: Port Alhoun South Kurona
Kampfers
31-03-2007, 03:18
of course:


ORDER: THE PRINCIPALITY OF KURONA

Ammount: 100

Deliver: Port Alhoun South Kurona

Amount is of what? Vehicle mounted, or handheld?
Kurona
31-03-2007, 03:19
50 Hand Helds 40 Vehicle
Kampfers
31-03-2007, 03:30
Charged to the account of THE PRINCIPALITY OF KURONA:

50 hand held Metal Storm Weapons : 25 million dollars

40 vehicle mounted Metal Storm Weapons : 48 million dollars

Total : 73 Million dollars

To be delivered to: Port Alhoun, South Kurona

On: 34/7/2008

Money will be taken in 4 payments of 18.25 million dollars, with the final payment taken on delivery.
Skibereen
31-03-2007, 03:32
...
You are aware that all the images created by the MetalStorm company are proprietary, and copy written.
I doubt you have aquired the right to reproduce them on a wiki, even a game wiki. Also considering this is not a public website and is a for profit venture I would imagine that you indeed jeopardize its existence by this 1. Lame 2. Ignorant. 3. Poorly deisgned Store front.

You receive an A+ for lacking originality, an A+ for laziness, and an F- for contributing tothe community.

Thank you for not being a productive member of the board.
Have Nice Day.
Kampfers
31-03-2007, 03:43
so is it illegal for a subscriber to popular science to use images from the magazine? its not like im profiting. i bought the freakin magazine.
fine, i give up, stop ur b*tchin
THIS STORE IS CLOSED, AND ALL ORDERS ARE TERMINATED
The Phoenix Milita
31-03-2007, 04:17
Popular Science undoubtedly received appropriate permissions from Metal Storm Ltd. to print the images, you paid to look at them.
Kurona
31-03-2007, 04:30
Sheesh as if millions of other NSers don't already steal existing technology
The Phoenix Milita
31-03-2007, 04:33
Sheesh as if millions of other NSers don't already steal existing technology

The main issue was the uploading of copyrighted material to a wiki covered under a license which prohibits uploading of copyrighted material.
Gataway
31-03-2007, 04:37
Sheesh as if millions of other NSers don't already steal existing technology

exactly..its actually really annoying when someone acctually does take a lot of time to develop something thats semi-new then it gets criticized by the ns "engineers" who really gives a shit if something couldn't physically happen IRL virtually all of the NS vehicles will never existfurthermore its NS its not real plus all ur doing is running off more people who wanna play the game..and yes you shouldn't steal images that are copyrighted etc etc. getting criticized for that well you should be..but a lot of the other stuff people criticize specs wise about the transmission of a vehicle thats just insane 99.9% of ppl on NS don't have a degree in mechanical engineering or anything like that
The Union of Sharona
31-03-2007, 04:51
exactly..its actually really annoying when someone acctually does take a lot of time to develop something thats semi-new then it gets criticized by the ns "engineers" who really gives a shit if something couldn't physically happen IRL virtually all of the NS vehicles will never existfurthermore its NS its not real plus all ur doing is running off more people who wanna play the game..and yes you shouldn't steal images that are copyrighted etc etc. getting criticized for that well you should be..but a lot of the other stuff people criticize specs wise about the transmission of a vehicle thats just insane 99.9% of ppl on NS don't have a degree in mechanical engineering or anything like that

If you attempt to design something in MT, then you should have an idea what you're doing. In FT we can generally play fast and lose with physics, since it's almost assured that there's something we can build to at least mitigate, if not negate, any portion of physics for at least a short amount of time. Only thing we don't really dick around with is time, because that makes people pissy. If, for example, you make an offroader with a manual, and expect it to be able to really compete without special equipment(I actually had some thoughts in that direction IRL, since I'm too lazy to get an automatic), and people tell you that it's a bad idea(which it is, manual is really bad for anything that's serious offroading), it shouldn't come as a surprise to you. Now, I picked offroading because it's something with which I have a passing familiarity, but it holds true for almost anything. If you design something, and it's stupid, expect to get called on it.
Gataway
31-03-2007, 04:53
I talking about how some people get grilled because they don't know enough about hyrdopnuematics or some crazy shit like that its rediculious
Scandavian States
31-03-2007, 05:11
I talking about how some people get grilled because they don't know enough about pneumatics or some crazy shit like that its ridiculous

[Pneumatics assumes the use of water in the first place, so there's no such thing as "hydropneumatics". And just because you don't know doesn't mean you can't learn. When I first started here I was a lazy nublet who ripped ships and tanks from Kitsune and a hundred other sources, but now I can actually design a tank and prove its feasibility with hard numbers. In fact, I've learned more about the physical sciences here than I ever did in high school.]
Democratic Colonies
31-03-2007, 05:18
I talking about how some people get grilled because they don't know enough about hyrdopnuematics or some crazy shit like that its rediculious

OOC: If you do not know how to design something properly, then you should learn how. If you refuse to learn how, use one of the many storefronts available which will gladly sell you properly designed vehicles and equipment. If you do not wish to purchase from one of the many storefronts, then there are a great variety of real-life designs you may use. If you refuse to do all of the above... well, you could atleast put some effort into your spelling. The Firefox 2 (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/) browser has a built-in spell checker that I personally use - I think you might find it handy.
Kurona
31-03-2007, 05:32
[Pneumatics assumes the use of water in the first place, so there's no such thing as "hydropneumatics". And just because you don't know doesn't mean you can't learn. When I first started here I was a lazy nublet who ripped ships and tanks from Kitsune and a hundred other sources, but now I can actually design a tank and prove its feasibility with hard numbers. In fact, I've learned more about the physical sciences here than I ever did in high school.]

yeah somone is really going to take the time to learn quantem physics for the sake of RPing
The Union of Sharona
31-03-2007, 18:28
yeah somone is really going to take the time to learn quantem physics for the sake of RPing

It helps. The stuff we end up with in FT does occasionally do very strange things...
Eralineta
31-03-2007, 18:58
It helps. The stuff we end up with in FT does occasionally do very strange things...

He's right. You need to know these things and calculations for really solid RPs and things like Lorrentz so you can figure out just how much time you have to fire/response/evade. Everything is in advantage of the defender in case of an attack in FT, based on the time difference.

Though seriously I'm glad everyone told him not to do this. Those images were copyrighted big time.
McPsychoville
31-03-2007, 19:38
Are photographs put on the web by Getty Images copyrighted that anyone knows of?
Eralineta
31-03-2007, 19:45
Are photographs put on the web by Getty Images copyrighted that anyone knows of?

Yes:

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Gataway
31-03-2007, 19:52
Some of us don't have time to learn quantum physics for the sake of some silly online RP. We acctually have lives and dont live in our parents basement even though we're 45 years old..NS is just a game nothing more nothing less..and should only be taken for what it is a game some people take it far to extreme
McPsychoville
31-03-2007, 19:53
And thusly, using their images on the Wiki would be illegal.

Feck.
Eralineta
31-03-2007, 19:59
Some of us don't have time to learn quantum physics for the sake of some silly online RP. We acctually have lives and dont live in our parents basement even though we're 45 years old..NS is just a game nothing more nothing less..and should only be taken for what it is a game

The rules of FT should be done like FT. That means no instant speed, no vast perfect empire with only enemies and no excuses for supply lines. Yes FT does things that are impossible, but it doesn't mean you should play poorly.

Right now this storefront is poor play. He gives no useful information and focuses on nothing to justify use or make any arguement. It comes with a crazy price and similar to his battleship thread. He has no idea over what is good and what is bad, no research or even an understanding.

FT does not need to be all super formal equations and notes, but it should be full enough to give a good flow and understanding. This storefront, while support technology in MT and PMT is clearly so poorly written and totally lacking any thought. This is example of poor MT. Poor FT godmods things that cannot happen or happens in stupidly short amount of time to win or do something that is so far impossible, it is crass.
Gataway
31-03-2007, 20:03
Im not talking about this storefront in particular Im talking about the whole NS game there are plenty of people who take this game again stressing the wrod game..too serious Im not even disagreeing that nothing about the storefront is original nor am I saying taking those pictures doesn't violate any copyright laws..still doesn't change the fact some people are far too anal over a stupid computer game
Eralineta
31-03-2007, 20:07
Im not talking about this storefront in particular Im talking about the whole NS game there are plenty of people who take this game again stressing the wrod game..too serious Im not even disagreeing that nothing about the storefront is original nor am I saying taking those pictures doesn't violate any copyright laws..still doesn't change the fact some people are far too anal over a stupid computer game

Follow the rules in the stickies and no one will complain. Just put some effort into things or don't bother with it at all. That's the moral.
Gataway
31-03-2007, 20:13
again I wasn't saying dont put effort into the game or w/e I was saying its stupid when some people go off on someone because something they designed has a very-minor flaw that doesn't really affect anything game wise sure if someone is going to say they're tank has like 5 foot thick armor and then can still move at 60 mph with a 2000 hp gas engine then yea that should be fixed..but lil things could be left alone...and this is my last post regarding this whole matter as it makes no sense to continue
The PeoplesFreedom
31-03-2007, 20:32
again I wasn't saying dont put effort into the game or w/e I was saying its stupid when some people go off on someone because something they designed has a very-minor flaw that doesn't really affect anything game wise sure if someone is going to say they're tank has like 5 foot thick armor and then can still move at 60 mph with a 2000 hp gas engine then yea that should be fixed..but lil things could be left alone...and this is my last post regarding this whole matter as it makes no sense to continue

And all games have rules and regulations, if you don't like it, don't play :D
Skibereen
01-04-2007, 01:01
yeah somone is really going to take the time to learn quantem physics for the sake of RPing
OOC:
Do you eat paint chips?

What the hell does pneumatics have to do with Quantum?(learn to spell by the way) Your store sucked. You poorly copied tech from a real life source and, you took the tech you ripped and didnt even read up on it...as you claim...in popular science, because your write-ups are almost in complete contradiction to what MS LTD says about the actual product.

The only thing you got even remotely correct was the rate of fire.

Then to top it off, instead of drawing your own damned picture you ripped pictures off (literally) and then ignored the Wiki rules...rules in place to make certain the wiki doesnt get shut down... and you want to complain?

Not only are you a nub, you are a rude and thick headed nub who didnt deserve the respect of having people come here and try to tell you not to continue making a fool of yourself.
Gataway
01-04-2007, 01:36
And all games have rules and regulations, if you don't like it, don't play :D

seems I couldn't stay away...
Okay NS for starters doesn't have any real rules regarding how you design things its more or less just a collective agreement by the people on NS..not everyone has to agree with those and could still play the game just fine..and my post wasn't even about rules or regulations..it was about how some people take NS designs to the extreme like your going to get a RL defense contract for it or something..and I stated some things people should get grilled over example the super heavy tank going 60mph with a range of 650km while using a 2000hp gas engine..that you should get grilled over and change...but for example a tank that has an internal MG similar to tanks in ww2 who cares if it makes the front armor a little weaker etc etc its still nothing to get grilled over which some people do.

As for the whole pneumatics quantum thing..he wasn't comparing the two..maybe you're the one who eats paint chips. He was making the same point I am you shouldn't have to have a degree in engineering, explosives, electronics etc etc to design something on NS..Which some people would make it seem like you would..and your use of the word nub to describe someone shows how ignorant and simple minded you are...and your other blatant personal attacks on Kurona were uncalled for..you are the only one making an poor argument by only restating things others have already said maybe you're too simple minded to form your own argument. You're the only one who looks like a complete fool. And I am well aware of the fact that you're probably going to respond to this with some post that critiques my spelling grammar or whatever it is calls me a "nub" or some other simple minded persons version of an insult but i really don't care any critique from someone of your intellectual status isn't going to bother me any so i figured I would save you some time.
Skibereen
01-04-2007, 02:01
OOC:
First, any moral ground you had about my "personal" attacks on the nub are moot as you made the same type of attacks on me, and please spare me the "proving a point arguement".

Second(but by no means less important), people who have no arguement of note always say they wont be responding.

Third, I understand you have a deep grudge againt literacy and the willingness of the people in this RP community to actual make a real effort in the RP of nations, politics and technology. However the supposition that people are insisting on degree level work in the areas of research and development of weapons and/or any other type of technology is bullshit.

I dont know anyone here with a degree, and many of the people I rp with who do the best research are not old enough to drive.

Your complaint is merely proof that, like the OP, you are as equally as unwilling to put forth any effort.

As to your questioning my intelligence...that is more laughable then the first post of this thread.

Do your self and dont respond, I hate to make children cry.
Gataway
01-04-2007, 02:17
at least I got a good laugh out of reading your post..as for not wanting to put forth any effort I already have designed my own MT vehicle I took an RL object upgraded it and then gave it my own electronic systems..thank you..also several people do take designs to a great detailed degree eg. Macabees(may have misspelled the name so I apologize)...not to insult him or anything you just said you didn't know anyone who takes the NS design thing to a very great degree therefore I have offered you just one example..and your lack of comprehension from the previous post and continuous use of the word "nub" is a clear indication of your sad lack of intellect on any level.

Nub-noun-small lump, a small piece of something, an essential part,essence of something "the nub of the argument" now that you're informed perhaps you can begin to correctly use the word...obviously the no child left behind act has failed us miserably.

and the only reason i would be crying is if i were laughing to hard at your pathetic attempts to rebut me.. now please go somewhere else while the big people talk you can come back when we're done.

you told me to do myself..you must be some kind of sick pervert as well..perhaps you're the one who should do themselves a favor and stop replying you are simply personifying yourself as the village idiot
The Union of Sharona
01-04-2007, 05:00
again I wasn't saying dont put effort into the game or w/e I was saying its stupid when some people go off on someone because something they designed has a very-minor flaw that doesn't really affect anything game wise sure if someone is going to say they're tank has like 5 foot thick armor and then can still move at 60 mph with a 2000 hp gas engine then yea that should be fixed..but lil things could be left alone...and this is my last post regarding this whole matter as it makes no sense to continue

You know, if you hadn't had that gas engine there, I'd be able to actuallyu whip out stats for a tank that fit that description.

at least I got a good laugh out of reading your post..as for not wanting to put forth any effort I already have designed my own MT vehicle I took an RL object upgraded it and then gave it my own electronic systems..thank you..also

several people do take designs to a great detailed degree eg. Macabees(may have misspelled the name so I apologize)...not to insult him or anything you just said you didn't know anyone who takes the NS design thing to a very great degree therefore I have offered you just one example..and your lack of comprehension from the previous post and continuous use of the word "nub" is a clear indication of your sad lack of intellect on any level.

Nub-noun-small lump, a small piece of something, an essential part,essence of something "the nub of the argument" now that you're informed perhaps you can begin to correctly use the word...obviously the no child left behind act has failed us miserably.

and the only reason i would be crying is if i were laughing to hard at your pathetic attempts to rebut me.. now please go somewhere else while the big people talk you can come back when we're done.

you told me to do myself..you must be some kind of sick pervert as well..perhaps you're the one who should do themselves a favor and stop replying you are simply personifying yourself as the village idiot.

Mac doesn't have a degree that I'm aware of. He puts in alot of detail, but you apparently missed the part where he was talking about college degrees, and not level of detail.

Nub: phonetic, n00b, noob, a generally ignorant, new uninformed or incompetent person.

Since you've 1 not been here even as long as I have(my first natiion was deleted in like march 05), and 2, are obviously not out of elementary school, based on your ability to type, I'm fairly certain we're all much bigger than you. So, run along and play.
Gataway
01-04-2007, 05:11
You know, if you hadn't had that gas engine there, I'd be able to actuallyu whip out stats for a tank that fit that description.



Mac doesn't have a degree that I'm aware of. He puts in alot of detail, but you apparently missed the part where he was talking about college degrees, and not level of detail.

Nub: phonetic, n00b, noob, a generally ignorant, new uninformed or incompetent person.

Since you've 1 not been here even as long as I have(my first natiion was deleted in like march 05), and 2, are obviously not out of elementary school, based on your ability to type, I'm fairly certain we're all much bigger than you. So, run along and play.

I know how he meant to use the word nub and its wrong....also the whole point of giving the tank a gas engine etc was to make it unbelievable to prove a point and I used mac as an example because he's one of the people that puts a lot of work into his designs almost like he does have a degree..oddly I'm the one that made the degree statement and you're trying to burn me, by saying I obviously didn't read that part.

Either you've just had a big misunderstanding which I'm going to assume you have because it makes no sense to grill the person who made a point and then say that same person didn't see it either that or you have reached a new level of idiocy...Also the amount of time you've been on NS means absolutely nothing and why you would even use that as a strong point for your argument is illogical and idiotic..and I highly doubt any elementary school child has an extensive vocabulary let alone would know what words like rebut mean now an elementary school kid WOULD use words like nub in the manner you and Skibereen are so fond of..which only shows how intellectually challenged you both are..I'm sorry I'm probably being to complex for you..it shows how stupid you are I'm sure you got that one.

Also the way I type..that has nothing to do with a persons level of intelligence especially since I am typing in full sentences in paragraphs with few spelling or grammatical errors..again you make no sense also when does the size of a person mean anything..you may in fact be bigger than me but what are you going to do come through my computer and beat me up?..Ha I never thought I would see such a degree of stupidity and sheer lack of reasoning in my life.. I am also finding it harder to assume you've made a mistake and instead you are in fact just plain stupid in fact I believe I shall take a moment to admire the new level of incompetence that you posses...However if I am wrong, and after reading over your post carefully I HIGHLY doubt I am. You should read more carefully before trying to take cheap shots at a person and when you do make sure it is the right person, Lastly if your going to make an argument back it up with LOGICAL points not this playground bully crap..otherwise just do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut

I also find it funny and ironic that the definition of nub you and Skibereen use accurately describes both of you