NationStates Jolt Archive

To:All nations
From:Grand Fuhrer Finch

"After centuries of Warfare, , the German Reich would Like to Purchase State of the Art Weapons, to defend our lands. We have a total of R$764,414,164.80 Reichmarks(180,232,39 USD) to spend on the following Items.

500-2000-Tanks
1-Aircraft Carriers
100-400-Fighter Air Craft

Whom ever Gets this contract will also get future deals with our nation as we expand into a Militaristic Society, and their will be lots of money for the people who we deal with.


Grand Fuhrer Finch
Reichstage, New Berlin
Nazi Germany

Word of advise... You don't even have that much money to spend... NSTracker (http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=Finchs+Nazi+Germany) says you have R$764,414,164 available to spend on defense. Also please go and look around for storefronts, there you can buy military equipment.

And your Reichsmark has an exchange rate of R$4.3967 = $1 to USD. So 23 billion reichsmarks is more like 5 billion USD... and you don't even have that many reichsmarks to spend in the first place.

The Armed States of Theoropia

TO: Nazi Germany
RE: Weapons

We will not sell weapons to such a barbaric political party. In fact, we demand that you cease and desist all military activity. Any Nazi related country is a threat to any smaller neighboring countries, as seen in 1939 when the Nazis blitzkrieg'd Poland. In order to prevent another blitzkrieg, I will not sell weapons.

Great Khan Eric
Supreme Commander

Stop people! If you give these Nazis weapons, they will surly use them against innocent people! Oh yeah, they just want tanks to be on the safe side, NO! They want to use them against us!

I'll sell weapons... I frankly don't give a damn what he does with them but he needs to know there is only so much he can afford.

Word of advise... You don't even have that much money to spend... NSTracker (http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=Finchs+Nazi+Germany) says you have R$764,414,164 available to spend on defense. Also please go and look around for storefronts, there you can buy military equipment.

And your Reichsmark has an exchange rate of R$4.3967 = $1 to USD. So 23 billion reichsmarks is more like 5 billion USD... and you don't even have that many reichsmarks to spend in the first place.

OOC: I am not even interested in this thread, I just want to know how much Undbagarten has to spend. I don't know to read that stuff, it just looks like a bunch of numbers to me. Please and thankyou.

OOC:

You realise theres a difference between National Socialist/Nazis, (although they weren't that socialist) and Hitler.

German Riech does not mean Third Riech.

Nazi does not mean super Hitler wannabe clone. Although most of the time they are.

The Dontgonearthere Empire would be pleased to supply you with weapons, we have a wide variety of interesting devices from which you may select your prefrence.
Of course money is an issue, but we would be most pleased to come up with a plan of installments to keep you in de-...assist you in making timely payments to us while providing maximum service.

I'll sell weapons... I frankly don't give a damn what he does with them but he needs to know there is only so much he can afford.

Ahh yes well Im going to start by thanking you my friend. I kind of understand and changed money value etc... so im only going to focus on buying tanks. I dont know how much i can afford, because I dont know the cost of your tanks, but whatever the new value can afford I will buy.


P.S our mighty nation will rearm no matter what, so threats against our nation will do little good, and we will go to war if someone sets up a blockaide to stop imports.

The High Emperor sighed. The idiocy of man never ceases to amaze me. How fortunate that there are bastions against it, such as ourselves, and our honorable foes in the far North. "Surely you must be joking," he said. "Another one?"

"Yes, High Emperor. It is remarkable how this keeps occurring over and over and over again," said Lord Halthor. He knelt before the High Emperor, his head lowered. He wore a long black leather coat, which had been fitted with a dark hood. Between the floor reaching coat, the robes underneath, and the gloves he wore when the display of his tatoos was not considered a tactical edge, the only skin exposed was his face. Even that was shadowed by the hood he wore, for the most part hiding the intricate crisscrossing tatoos that covered his entire body. Discreet inquiries made to a number of Halthor's household servants, and a few of the Lord's less than perfectly loyal mistresses, confirmed that it was his entire body that was covered. As always when speaking to Halthor, the High Emperor felt not entirely in control, the only time when he did so. As always, he tried his utmost to conceal that, and, as always, he had the distinct feeling that he failed.

"You feel we should take action against them," said the High Emperor, and smiled to see the small upward jerk of Halthor's head that was the only show of the surprise he felt at that statement. Let Halthor see that he was not a complete fool. "Oh, certainly, you did not say so straight out," he said, "but your duties, as varied as they are, do not include delivering such diplomatic messages to my personally."

"Even so, my lord. Their political philosophy is a cancer on the world. You know what happened in-"

"Yes," interrupted the High Emperor, and now there was danger in his voice. However uncomfortable Halthor made him, he still maintained the Power of the Throne. "I remember the mistakes of my ancestors. And I do not wish them repeated on any. But you know as well as I do-"

"The war the Carbandians," they both spoke in unison. "I will have Lord Titon issue the usual public statement then?" Asked Lord Halthor. The High Emperor nodded his consent, and Lord Halthor strode away.
***
Open Statement from Lord Titon, Head of Kolvokian Ministry for Foreign Affairs

You shall find no weapons here, repugnant ones. Instead you shall find only the rage of a people born to war. Lest you act swiftly to change your ways, our attention will soon turn to you. Your existence offends the honor of the Kolvokian people, and such an offense cannot be allowed to stand. This is your first and final warning. Good day, Mister Finch.

OOC: Note, this is just a general policy statement. I am in the middle of a somewhat prolonged war (due to RL problems) at the moment, and so not capable of coming after another nation, especially as I have no navy to speak of. When that war is done (or even before, if you prefer), I would be interesting in speaking with you, FNG, about the possibility of a special forces RP.

Unlike these nations, the government of Mothgar will supply your nation with state-of-the-art weapons.

yes we are in no way trying to re create the nazi third reich here. Imagine if you can the Nazi government without the war, holocaust, and scapgoating. They went from hyper inflation to the worlds strongest nation and that is the part Our nation is modled after. Also for people who will sell to me, please telegram me and we will take it from their.

To:All nations
From:Nazi Germany

This is a Direct quote from the fuhrer" We will not be bullied into submission, and do not fear war. We will fight on to the last man if Needed, but we will never surrender"

I require Tanks as soon as possible, so If anyone can sell me them I will buy them asap.

[OOC: We are not a Jewish nation.]

We would like to present our tank in whatever competition your nation is holding for the possibility of a new main battle tank. Our tank is the Nakíl 1A1 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=478771) and is the most widely exported tank in the world and in history (and will continue exports as the 1A1 is upgraded for clients, since the 1A2 is not for widespread export). It is quite possibly the best tank in the world, save for its successor which is only used on a limited basis by certain countries. If you have any questions about the Nakíl we would be happy to answer them.

The Dontgonearthere Empire has a rather larger suprlus of T-72 tanks. While not quite up to the standard of the most modern vehicles, you should be able to afford them in quantities suitable to your needs.
We will supply 500 T-72 tanks at a cost of R500,000,000, that is R1,000,000 per tank. Plus, of course, transport fees unless you wish to move the tanks yoruself. Older models, T-62 and T-55 tanks, are also avalible at a reduced price.

The Dontgonearthere Empire has a rather larger suprlus of T-72 tanks. While not quite up to the standard of the most modern vehicles, you should be able to afford them in quantities suitable to your needs.
We will supply 500 T-72 tanks at a cost of R500,000,000, that is R1,000,000 per tank. Plus, of course, transport fees unless you wish to move the tanks yoruself. Older models, T-62 and T-55 tanks, are also avalible at a reduced price.


I like what I am hearing. I need alot of tanks so, I am likeing your offer alot. Do you have the stats for these tanks etc... And I will need them to be shipped to my country.

(OOC:
Stats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72
Soviet models, good for those too lazy to make up their own stats :) )

IC:
We can arrange for shipping at a cost of R500,000, the tanks should arrive in a few weeks, provided good weather. You will find operational manuals included.
If you wish, operators may be provided at a cost of R6,000 per 10 operators per week in order to train your men in the correct use of these tanks. The T-72 is not the most advanced tank in the world, but one does not simply hop into the turret and start blasting away.

Our ambassador will meet you at a designated place with the money. We would like the shipping, and opperators to train our SS tank commanders.

{OOC: Germany, umm... just to let you know... Tanks won't do much to nations with advanced aircraft, or a large portion that are AT crews and such. So, i'd put all my money in aircraft if I were you, but i'm not... so whatever.}

It has been most pleasant to do business with you. We look forward to future dealings with your nation.
Do try not to irritate anybody.

Yes I will keep that in mind. In the Next little while We will be looking to purchase Superior Aircraft to Create our Luftwaffe, and as promised We will purchase from you unless a superior aircraft comes up.

There is many, many fasicsts nations out there in the world today. Many of these nations proclaim peace, and at the same time, commit dangerous genocides.

If you are serious about your goal of using the army to protect yourself, rather than committing great crimes, I merely ask you this: Drop the 'Nationalist' part of your political ideology, and call yourself fully 'Socialist'. You will receive much aid from other nations, enough to help you out in your goals.

Also note that your country is weak. The fact that you are wanting to buy weapons shows this. You'll be good to go to the many storefront threads and ask to look at their wares, but to be fair, you won't win any wars unless you get yourself some allies. We suggest working with Socialists, but there are other nations that may share your biogited viewpoints who are much more stronger.

And lastly, the whole world will be watching you...so don't make stupid mistakes like genocides. We got very, very twicthy fingers in this hyperinterventiost world order, and if people even THINK you are doing human right abuses, they'll invade you, kill you, and form a puppet regime. Prove to the world that you are a responsible leader, though, and you will go far.

Sorry for the aggressiveness, but this needs to be said.

Boycott Nazi Party Nations!

Empose U.N Sanctions on them I think :P

Well The whole ideals of my politics are Right wing, where as if I went Socialist then Id be going left close to communism, and thats not where I want to be. Tho I will make a comprimize because I know i cant take on the whole world. I will go little left to conservative, so That way I can get aid from people etc...

But that aside, we will not Be intimidated, or be scared from threats. with that said we will be looking to purchase Nuclear weapons soon, so Defend our believes if someone invades us.

I Cannot abandon our political believes. You speak of us going towards Socialism, which undermines all that Nazism Stands for. We will not be intimidated by threats etc... However, To please the international community, and improve relations with other country's, we will Lean a little left Towards Conservatism.

The kingdom of Osteia would like to welcome you to Nationstates and we are willing to provide you with 1,000 C7A2 assault rifles for free, as we understand it..you do not practice the ways of the original third reich and only wish to arm yourselves for DEFENCE purposes.

The weapons will be shipped immeaditly, manuels are included.

OOC: There's my good deed for the day, hehe..i seen your defence budget and thought i would help out a bit..it's not much but it's better than what you got......at first i just wanted to see what all the nazi sh*t was about, but you seem alright...

The kingdom of Osteia would like to welcome you to Nationstates and we are willing to provide you with 1,000 C7A2 assault rifles for free, as we understand it..you do not practice the ways of the original third reich and only wish to arm yourselves for DEFENCE purposes.

The weapons will be shipped immeaditly, manuels are included.

OOC: There's my good deed for the day, hehe..i seen your defence budget and thought i would help out a bit..it's not much but it's better than what you got......

Thank you. Your rifles Will greatly Increase the German Defences. I hope to increase our Defence budget, so I can buy aircraft and Nuclear Weapons, to defend the Father land.