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Ok, this has got a little nuts. I never meant to start World War 3. I'm open to discussions ith regard to a diplomatic resolution (cease-fire, whatever).

So, discuss.

Total Imperial Conquest...Aka....Kill zem and civilize them!

My army isnt big enough to fight a war on what looks like its going to be something like 300 fronts. I just had a civil war, my regular allies are offline always, and this thing was supposed to be localised.

If the mediators are still online you should probably come here, as should anyone who wants to invade me/side with me. I want an easy resolution.

OOC: I just woke up! This is a bit nuts....

I am on the invasion side.

I DO NOT want World War 3.

This was supposed to be a small regional conflict, and it`s turned into something quite different. However:

I WILL agressively defend my borders.
I WILL retaliate with EXTREME PREJUDICE against anyone who attacks my armed forces or civillian population.

If this is going to be a full scale conflict I need allies. If you`re on my side say so below, if you`re against me same thing. Also state your position and troop details.

You're landlocked, I was enquiring about JTS. If I'm reading the topic right, you started the hostilities and now you're outnumbered; I'm going to launch a counter-offensive into JTS.

Ok, if I have strong allies I can fight a war, I just wasn`t prepared for one of this magnitude.

Wait before you launch a counteroffensive. I`ll join you when you do (I did just bomb them after all) but first I want to know who`s in and where they stand.

bump

I am anti-slavery. I am sending my units into your country, via the mountains to the east and an air drop into the capital to rendesvouz with your units.

I didn't want a huge conflict. But I'm not the one who shot at soldiers. (aka Buddha C).

Ok, so the situation so far (according to this thread at least):

Coalition forces
Balkan Peoples
Theoropia
McPsychoville

The Other Guys (you can decide the name yourselves)
JTS
BuddhaC
Maniacia

Neutral
Osteia
Honako
Silentscope001

Keep `em coming

Hmm..although I am totally against your invasion, I'm also against slavery. Is there no hope for a diplomatic end to this? I'd be happy to try and 'persuade' them to giving slave rights - though I'd also be happy to send in bombers to attack military targets along their borders in order to persuade them to stop the slave trade.

JTS has made it clear that he will not stop using slaves. Also, an unknown force has attacked my troops in the Eastern Mountains of Balka. This unprovoked attack should be revenged.

JTS has made it clear that he will not stop using slaves. Also, an unknown force has attacked my troops in the Eastern Mountains of Balka. This unprovoked attack should be revenged.

You can have your revenge against them if you want - I was just stating what conditions JTS would have to abide to in order to keep me out of the war. Though, it seems unlikely he will abolish the slave trade - so I could well get dragged into this war.

I want abolition, as do my allies in this. We don't necessarily want war, but, looking at troop numbers and the forces the coalition has at it's disposal, I could easily go to war. However, I want a diplomatic solution.

If Honako wants to step in as a negotiator I can meet JTS and we can talk about this. But the slavery has to stop.

Edit: Theoropia, we also won't stand for an ally being attacked on our soil. Even if JTS meets the conditions of a cease-fire, I'd still like to find out who attacked you and bring them to a fitting justice.

I am against both of the sides, but the forces COULD be pursuaded if you promised a pro-nationalist goverment, plus make them a branch in your military for militias. Nothing big, just about 10,000 guys with low to average equipment.

If we choose to invade, the JTS government will be replaced by a temporary Coalition government. The decision is not entirely ours.

My troops are waiting at the border. We need JTS to join before negotiations can take place.

...You do realize that force won't help, and that, in fact, this will only lead to countries who want to start up a conflict to say, "Hey, we got slaves!" and thereby get a dogpile of countries nuking the first country to obivlion. I already seen one itty-bitty genocide turn into a huge genocide by both sides...

My country, and the company "Servant Corps" wants to end this violence before it starts, to stop this interventionist idea, and to stop the mass murder. Therefore, we decide to get peace the only way we know how...by getting an agreement that JTS and the Anti-Slavery Coaltion wants...the use of "Servants".

I'm also iffy on the formation of a puppet government so that other nations can rule over the first nation. If this happens, then OTHER nations will start screaming, "Hey, he's DOING SLAVERY! Let's form a Dogpile so that I can invade the nation and take it over!" Unless...that is what you want. :)

This would be an agreeable resolution in my government's eyes.

The nation of Osteia may be getting involved NUETRAL!! we will put our force on the border and which ever side trys to cross or shoots at us will be our enemy.

In moments we will receive the kings decision....stand by..

Also what are your veiws...

The nation of Osteia may be getting involved NUETRAL!! we will put our force on the border and which ever side trys to cross or shoots at us will be our enemy.

Ah, hostile peackeeping. :D

I want abolition, as do my allies in this. We don't necessarily want war, but, looking at troop numbers and the forces the coalition has at it's disposal, I could easily go to war. However, I want a diplomatic solution.

If Honako wants to step in as a negotiator I can meet JTS and we can talk about this. But the slavery has to stop.

Edit: Theoropia, we also won't stand for an ally being attacked on our soil. Even if JTS meets the conditions of a cease-fire, I'd still like to find out who attacked you and bring them to a fitting justice.

Sure, I'll be involved in any peaceful talks. I also see the use of paid well treated servants as a good replacement for slaves - thought JTS may not want to pay and treat these servants well.

OOC:
I'm not really sure if I want to get into this. But could I get a list of nations on either side of the conflict?

OOC: Check the first page for an updated list.

Edit: Also, thankyou Honako.

Even if JTS and Buddha C signed a peace treaty, I would not stop fighting. Buddha C's troops, supposedly, attacked mine. I demand reporations.

I would support military action against Buddha C alongside Theoropia, even if my current conflict with JTS were to be resolved peacefully.

If this comes to blows I will be forced to side with Joethesandwich

If this comes to blows I will be forced to side with Joethesandwich

May we ask for a reason?

Even if JTS and Buddha C signed a peace treaty, I would not stop fighting. Buddha C's troops, supposedly, attacked mine. I demand reporations.

...er, that might cause a bigger mess.

Could you still have a cease-fire with JTS and Buddha C, not a peace treaty...but have a public relations campagin in order to get them to pay reperations. You know, human right allegations, huge diplomatic pressures, etc? You could place sanctions on the nation, maybe even send fleets to blockade their ports until they pay up.

The king has agreed to send the following forces to act as mediators in this situation,

Ground forces/support:

200,000 Osteian Marines (DPCU cammo, full kit/kevlar, C7A2 Assault rifle, M29 SAW support, M40 sniper, Glock 18 sidearms
2 Apache attack helicoptor squadron(S)
1 Commanche attack helicoptor squadron(S)
1 Blackhawk squadron(S)
5th armored division (Coyote APC's, leopard C2, humvees, 3 ton "mercedes" transports)
23rd Artillary division
33rd Engineer battalion

Airforce:

362nd Fighter squadron (F-22)
21st Transport squadron (CH-17 Globemasters)

Standby: 84th Airborne division

These troops will enter on the Balken side of the border but let it be known once more, OUR FORCES ARE NUETRAL! Who ever fires at our men will be fired at in return.

May we ask for a reason?

The slaves will be freed either way, because I wish it so. I'd prefer the country not be ravaged by war. If JTS continues to demand slavery, I'll destroy the institution myself. If you invade, I'll be forced to defend the land and development inside JTS' borders.

Scratch that, this is the OOC thread. Seriously, though, what is the point of having a force there? It's almost screaming to us "You want it? Come get some!"

Exactly, but I refuse to stand down while this is a potentially military matter. Also, Buddha C, who's side are you on? Did you attack someone earlier or not? I'm a little confused about that at the moment.

Even if JTS and Buddha C signed a peace treaty, I would not stop fighting. Buddha C's troops, supposedly, attacked mine. I demand reporations.

One, ICly there is NO connection between Buddha C and the rebel faction.
Two, they are NOT Cnian troops.
Three, I could kick both your little arses all the way to Australlia.
Four, I thought you did NOT want to make this bigger.

The Rebel Faction, attack two of your men earlier in the RP. And they attack a company of Theoropian troops.

No, I don't want to make this bigger, but if you did attack then naturally I have the right to aid my allies.

If it wasn't you, fair enough, I have no beef with you at present.

Good, now. If you want the Nationalists for Country (NC) to be on good terms with you, you'd have to offer a pro-Nationalist goverment and allow the NC to recruit in your nation. Now, how many people join the NC is entirely up to you.

I need details on the NC.

What specificially?

Good, now. If you want the Nationalists for Country (NC) to be on good terms with you, you'd have to offer a pro-Nationalist goverment and allow the NC to recruit in your nation. Now, how many people join the NC is entirely up to you.

Absolutely not. Considering you're neutral in this conflict and have remained so, you have no leg to stand on when making demands such as these; unless you are prepared to support the invasion and the Coalition, you will be disappointed on this front.

OMG! Calm down, Buddha... Alright, the Nationalists for Country (NC) are making the demands, not Buddha C. In this RP pretty much EVERYTHING of me RPing is me RPing the Nationalists for Country.

What specificially?

Mostly intentions, policies and a brief history.

The NC attacked and killed Baltic and Theoropian soldiers. I will get revenge. Also, the NC are in no position to negotiate.

Well this conflict has peaked my interest..

I ask, are these slaves of a specific racial background or have you picked them up from former wars? As a land that promotes slavery using criminals (both internal and war criminals) I would have to side with the holy empire against this uncalled for act of aggression.

If against a specific ethnic group I would have to stay neutral and probably send in a peacekeeping force.

Honestly, I would enjoy a World War 3, provides perfect opportunities to form alliances and allegiances and to make a nice profit selling weapons and services to both sides.

The NC attacked and killed Baltic and Theoropian soldiers. I will get revenge. Also, the NC are in no position to negotiate.

We have no proof at present of the NCs involvement in the shootings. If they were not involved, they are welcome to act as conflict mediators as far as I'm concerned.

Then who shot them? Bullets just don't materialize out of the air.

Intentions:
To establish nationalism threw-out the world again, starting with your nation.

Policies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism
Basically that.

Brief History:
Several months ago, in Buddha C, the Cnian policy changed on extremist in all views of life. Thousands were ejected from Buddha C for their veiws, but a man, Jay Blue, assembled three hundred men, along with stolen military surplus from Buddha C, and researched Nationalism. After his research he considered it the greatest diplomatic policy ever devised and set out on a quest, with his three hundred men, to once again raise Nationalism.

Also, Theo, why so doggid with revenge? I guarentee (sp?) you that you will lose atleast a thousand men from attack the caves, not to mention several of my snipers sneaking away from the battle and attacking your unit commanders, usually only company and battalion level commanders. So it's much more rational to just accept the past and make an allie that will repay themselves in the ammount of enemy blood they spill.

Ok, I'm torn. Yes, I want a diplomatic solution, but I'm allied with Theo in this conflict.

Deadlock. Shit.

I'm going to wait and see what happens between you guys before I make a decision on where I stand in this particular area of the conflict.

[snip]

Again - not going to happen.

I'm confused - is Theo attacking Buddha or the NC? Or both? And I really do think it's not up to us whether it's a diplomatic or war solution - it's up to what JTS says. The whole NC vs. Theo war is a seperate thing in my book.

I'm confused - is Theo attacking Buddha or the NC? Or both? And I really do think it's not up to us whether it's a diplomatic or war solution - it's up to what JTS says. The whole NC vs. Theo war is a seperate thing in my book.

It looks like he's only interested in attacking the snipers in the caves at the moment, but that might well lead into hostilities with Buddha if this keeps up.

I'm confused - is Theo attacking Buddha or the NC? Or both? And I really do think it's not up to us whether it's a diplomatic or war solution - it's up to what JTS says. The whole NC vs. Theo war is a seperate thing in my book.

I agree. I'm just saying if/or at the moment.

Ok, I'm torn. Yes, I want a diplomatic solution, but I'm allied with Theo in this conflict.

Deadlock. Shit.

I'm going to wait and see what happens between you guys before I make a decision on where I stand in this particular area of the conflict.

OOC:
How about I fly represenitives from all you people aboard one of my Aircraft Carriers and have peace talks there? Neutral 3rd party having peace talks is the way to go. If not then i'll find a way to garrison the boarder between the two nations right next to eachother at war and not allow any troops across said boarder. The choice is yours.

As this conflict is taking place outside my region of the world I will be staying out of it and neutral. I would however, like to take this moment to inform all scientists, manufacturers, and skilled laborers threatened by this conflict that the Armed Republic of Armortoria will offer them asylum within our fair country.

So if someone stole your XBOX, then came back the next day and said, "Hey, wanna be friends?", what would you say?

A bad metaphor, but it gets the point across. It is up to the Baltics.

Also, if the Baltics sign a peace treaty, and allow the NCs a place, then Theoropia will sign. However, we will have no dealings or contact with the NCs.

Yes, but in this case, the person who stole your XBOX is saying he's going to give you 1000$ dollars to by a new one, and if you don't he's going to punch you in the nose and make you bleed, of course you'll kill him afterwards... but that's the main point.

OK, this is the last time i'm going to say this.

BUDDHA C IS NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS. EVERYTHING I RP IS FOR THE NC!

OOC:
How about I fly represenitives from all you people aboard one of my Aircraft Carriers and have peace talks there? Neutral 3rd party having peace talks is the way to go. If not then i'll find a way to garrison the boarder between the two nations right next to eachother at war and not allow any troops across said boarder. The choice is yours.

You could do that, but I'm about to attack the Osteian force unless they allow us passage. Sure, all you people want a diplomatic solution but words are not going to solve anything - the JTS leader will really just say what he/she needs to in order to get us out of the nation then go on as he/she always has.

I say again, I back whatever Baltic does. However, I won't affiliate with the NCs.

OOC:
How about I fly represenitives from all you people aboard one of my Aircraft Carriers and have peace talks there? Neutral 3rd party having peace talks is the way to go. If not then i'll find a way to garrison the boarder between the two nations right next to eachother at war and not allow any troops across said boarder. The choice is yours.

This is a good idea, but we need JTS for it all to work.

Also, thankyou Theo, that makes my life easier.

You could do that, but I'm about to attack the Osteian force unless they allow us passage. Sure, all you people want a diplomatic solution but words are not going to solve anything - the JTS leader will really just say what he/she needs to in order to get us out of the nation then go on as he/she always has.

I'll ally with you if we go to war with JTS. However, I will not get involved in all of these outside conflicts.

Jesus, what have I done? This really is turning into WWIII isn't it?

Well if bigger nations didn't try to play God if wouldn't have...

I'll ally with you if we go to war with JTS. However, I will not get involved in all of these outside conflicts.

Jesus, what have I done? This really is turning into WWIII isn't it?

Ah, don't feel bad. I take any excuse I can to get involved in wars - when you're militaristic by nature, have a huge defense budget and like war roleplaying...it tends to affect your decisions. Just a little bit

You could do that, but I'm about to attack the Osteian force unless they allow us passage. Sure, all you people want a diplomatic solution but words are not going to solve anything - the JTS leader will really just say what he/she needs to in order to get us out of the nation then go on as he/she always has.

Soo..as i understand it your not even going to try and make contact? your just attacking? i say we at least meet and discuss this...what say you?

Ah, don't feel bad. I take any excuse I can to get involved in wars - when you're militaristic by nature, have a huge defense budget and like war roleplaying...it tends to affect your decisions. Just a little bit

Mines decent...over a trillion....not too shabby, it went down a bit though..

http://www.cmnetworks.uni.cc/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=osteia

I thought MyPhysco was on the Coalition. So why is Osteia attacking him?

You could do that, but I'm about to attack the Osteian force unless they allow us passage. Sure, all you people want a diplomatic solution but words are not going to solve anything - the JTS leader will really just say what he/she needs to in order to get us out of the nation then go on as he/she always has.

This is a good idea, but we need JTS for it all to work.

Also, thankyou Theo, that makes my life easier.

OOC:
That's two that agree to it (i think). If everyone agrees to not fight for the duration of the peace talks, I will host them aboard the USS Romeoville, one of my nations Illeva Vassali-class Aircraft Carriers.

It'll take me a lil bit to get it to the region, and then i'll have the deligates come aboard using my Marine Corps Naval Air Division's AC-01 Pelican Aircraft. I Do not have space on my carriers for each nation to use their own aircraft so i'll transport your people to my ships using my aircraft. This will also serve as another security check for the talks as the deligates will be searched for weapons before they get on the Pelicans.

The Great Khan will not particapate in peace talks, as currently his soldiers are in a conflict. Once the conflict is settled, the Great Khan will come aboard.

OOC:
That's two that agree to it (i think). If everyone agrees to not fight for the duration of the peace talks, I will host them aboard the USS Romeoville, one of my nations Illeva Vassali-class Aircraft Carriers.

One - I wasn't agreeing to it, I was pointing out the problems with the garrison argument. Still, with the Osteian development we might see something peaceable yet, who knows?

The Great Khan will not particapate in peace talks, as currently his soldiers are in a conflict. Once the conflict is settled, the Great Khan will come aboard.

Be sensible! at least talk....things have gotten way out of hand, my force is not hostille yet im being dragged into a war...im open for discussion but im staying right where i am and im not moving my men out...

It does not have to be this way, i don't care about slavery...i just don't wanna see WW3 blow up over this! Balken peoples NEVER ment for this to happen....they are new nations and this is faaar too early for a war of this size..

Honako will be involved in the talks calling for peace and a ceasefire, though we feel the only option for JTS to be fully saved from enemy forces (not my own though as of yet) is to abolish slavery.

:upyours: go die you fascist dictators the peoples army will assist in freeing the slaves send me a message to give me a mision.

I am under the command of Osteian forces.

And I back up whatever the Baltic Government agrees on. I am only fighting on behalf of them and the issue of slavery.

OOC:
Well. I'm going to type out a message in the IC Thread and also type my fleet heading out to the area and in Word type out a draft for the OP for the peace talks. If anyone wishes to attend them please speak now. If no one wants to attend them then i'll scrap the idea and just let you all just duke it out till civilian casualties will force the International Community to step in.

I am under the command of Osteian forces.

And I back up whatever the Baltic Government agrees on. I am only fighting on behalf of them and the issue of slavery.

Well expand on this in the IC thread....remember, i have not picked a side...im going in the middle...

I did.

OOC:
Well. I'm going to type out a message in the IC Thread and also type my fleet heading out to the area and in Word type out a draft for the OP for the peace talks. If anyone wishes to attend them please speak now. If no one wants to attend them then i'll scrap the idea and just let you all just duke it out till civilian casualties will force the International Community to step in.

I'll do it.....

The people of North Calaveras has decided on military deployment to the region to calm the conflict. Here is the list of military units being deployed

5 divisions of the Peoples Army (Armed with AK-47s and Rpg-7)
2 battalions of the Revolutionary Guard( armed with AK-47s and Stinger Air to ground missles)
20 MiG-21s
1 division of the peoples armored core(200 T-72 tanks-50 T-62 tanks)
10 Hind attack helicopters

BE ADVISED THESE ARE a PEACE keeping force and will leave the area in 2 weeks.

To be honest, even if I did decide to get involved in this conflict a) I don't even know what sides there are anymore, nations who were once in a joint collation against slavery now seem to be fighting each other and b) this is less about JTS and more about other issues it seems now, though that is probably due to the fact he is not on NS at the moment.

I'm only neutral at the moment because I see no need for this war to end in a fight of numerous nations, and cause I have no idea what the sides are!

The people of North Calaveras has decided on military deployment to the region to calm the conflict. Here is the list of military units being deployed

5 divisions of the Peoples Army (Armed with AK-47s and Rpg-7)
2 battalions of the Revolutionary Guard( armed with AK-47s and Stinger Air to ground missles)
20 MiG-21s
1 division of the peoples armored core(200 T-72 tanks-50 T-62 tanks)
10 Hind attack helicopters

BE ADVISED THESE ARE a PEACE keeping force and will leave the area in 2 weeks.

*Laughs at your 'military units'* Give me a few years of war, and i'd whipe out your entire unit. Of course, i'd take a lot of years of attriction. (sp?) But anyways, pee-wee, i'd advise AGAINST getting in this conflict.

To simplify it.

McPsychoville is planning to move past the border; Osteia is sitting on the border, and has threatened to fire on anything that attempted to move into JTS. The two are about to sit down and talk the issue through.

The NC have attacked Theoropia with snipers, and Theoropia is attempting to ferret them out.

Shazbotdom has set down an ultimatum - either the nations involved attempt to come to a peaceable conclusion, or the international community moves in to break things up based on civilian casualties (a bit of an odd view, because I don't think there have been any civilian casualties thus far. And we certainly don't intend on any significant number).

What else?

Also, Theo, the diplomatic engagement is solely between Osteia and us about the border garrison, it's got nothing to do with peace at the moment.

To be honest, even if I did decide to get involved in this conflict a) I don't even know what sides there are anymore, nations who were once in a joint collation against slavery now seem to be fighting each other and b) this is less about JTS and more about other issues it seems now, though that is probably due to the fact he is not on NS at the moment.

If JTS has idled out, or has left NS, then it would be best to retcon this whole war, it's getting far out of hand.

These are neutral units they will only observe the conflict they are merely here to keep it from spreading to the peoples boarders(sp)

The sides are Theoropia, Baltic States, and Osteia versus JTS and McPhysco.

The Theoropian Government requests that the government of North Calaveras do not get involved in the conflict. Currently, peace talks are underway and any military action could upset the conflict.

EDIT: MyPhysco, your wrong.

Osteia is against you, although peace talks are underway. Theoropian military units are under Osteian control for the moment, and Baltic States are in the defense. Rebels have made demands that they get a party in the Baltic States and get there own militia, which is being decided on by the leaders of Balitc, and JTS is nowhere to be found.

very well the peoples republic will leave only a small contingent of Revolutary Guard to make sure all other units are leaving the region.

Balkan People needs to reply to my request...

The sides are Theoropia, Baltic States, and Osteia versus JTS and McPhysco.

The Theoropian Government requests that the government of North Calaveras do not get involved in the conflict. Currently, peace talks are underway and any military action could upset the conflict.

What are you talking about? I'm trying to move into JTS territory. I'm ALLIED with the Balkan Peoples. Right now, I'm standing on my own, effectively, and intending to move into JTS territory to break another link of the slaving chain; if you want to go to war against me, feel free. Again, these are NOT peace talks. These are talks centring around the border garrison.

i will observe the out come and also try to make sure WW3 dosnt break out.

Theoropia advises that all Calveranian military units exit the region promptly before another war breaks out.

EDIT: Ah, I see. Nvm then, Theoropia will disengage and move away from the border. We will rendevouz with MyPhysos military forces for refueling, if we are allowed.

If this war were to happen the people of North Calaveras will side with the anti slave coalition because the people deserve rights.

The person who HAD slaves hasn't even replied.

i suggest we put rebel units into the slave nation and force Revoulution and let the anti slave nations install a new goverment.

lets send a message to the slaves and tell them we will help if they rise up.

What are you talking about? I'm trying to move into JTS territory. I'm ALLIED with the Balkan Peoples. Right now, I'm standing on my own, effectively, and intending to move into JTS territory to break another link of the slaving chain; if you want to go to war against me, feel free. Again, these are NOT peace talks. These are talks centring around the border garrison.

I DO NOT practice slavery...and this whole time..i thought you were on the side of JTS? ....im just trying to stop a war...i think we can talk about this though really...i already told the anti slavery alliance i was a friend....

Right now i am in the Balkens nation...he gave me permission to land...im only trying to help, but sence i know exactly whats going on here now...it changes things for the better..

McPsychoville cheak your telegrams in five minutes..

we will assist anti slave nation if this goes down.

From what I understand, nothing will go down. The Anti-Slavery Coalition will demand that JTS stand down and abolish slavery, and if he doesn't will intervene. Otherwise, peace talks will start. Officially, Theoropia is out of the war, although two battalions are under MyPhysco's control. Also, the rebels that attacked are demanding rights. That is up to the Balkan States to decide.

[What is 2% of 6,000,000?]

My intell was all screwed up..i came here to HELP Balken peoples maintain his border...! i thought! McPsychoville...was moving on his nation? for slavery?

OMG what a mix up!!

Peace talks wont do anything HE HAS SLAVES IN HIS COUNTRY!!! military action is the fasteset way to shut them down. The communist party of Calaveras demands we restation troops to the border.

Ok, so the situation so far (according to this thread at least):

Coalition forces
Balkan Peoples
Theoropia
McPsychoville

The Other Guys (you can decide the name yourselves)
JTS
BuddhaC
Maniacia

Neutral
Osteia
Honako
Silentscope001

Keep `em coming



Stupid...I am the leading "The Other Guys"

This will be fixed....


Coalition forces who defend a country who invaded someone
Balkan Peoples
Theoropia
McPsychoville

The Countries who defend a country that was openly invaded
Maldorians-Main Aggressor
JTS
BuddhaC
Maniacia

Neutral
Osteia
Honako
Silentscope001

Peace talks wont do anything HE HAS SLAVES IN HIS COUNTRY!!! military action is the fasteset way to shut them down. The communist party of Calaveras demands we restation troops to the border.

Thing is, he says he's treating them fairly, and it's part of their religion. We can't go and wage a war against a religion, that is against UN resolutions, sepcifically the one that gives freedom of religion.

And the Anti Slavery Coalition, or at least a member of it, suggests that you stay out of the conflict. Peace talks are going on, and any military action could provoke an all out war.

EDIT@SILENTSCOPE001-The UN only governs those in it, therefore those rules don't apply to me.

ITs a religion to have slaves islam is close to that fine then we should invade and give them the choice i doubt they will say no when there are no more death squads in the country.

Nvm. Just don't enter the country.

EDIT@SILENTSCOPE001-The UN only governs those in it, therefore those rules don't apply to me.

Yeah, but I'm in the UN. I'm just using its resolution as a little debating point. :)

ITs a religion to have slaves islam is close to that fine then we should invade and give them the choice i doubt they will say no when there are no more death squads in the country.

...oh boy. We don't even know what religion he belongs to. What I am saying is that by invading a nation and imposing your cultural values, you are going to be committing a genocide of a religion, which is against UN resolutions which I follow.

From what I understand, nothing will go down. The Anti-Slavery Coalition will demand that JTS stand down and abolish slavery, and if he doesn't will intervene. Otherwise, peace talks will start. Officially, Theoropia is out of the war, although two battalions are under MyPhysco's control. Also, the rebels that attacked are demanding rights. That is up to the Balkan States to decide.

[What is 2% of 6,000,000?]


2% of 6,000,000 is 129000

Im on the anit slave coalition side i woundt want a war unless the people wanted one think about it i wont intervine unless these peace ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

Considereing the un resolutions, does this mean most of you will be backing out?

I'll have to think about the servants idea.

Since it seems most will back out, does theropia still want to continue the conflict?

If so I am willing to continue fighting against theropia

ITs a religion to have slaves islam is close to that fine then we should invade and give them the choice i doubt they will say no when there are no more death squads in the country.

Stop this madness. Immediately. You are in over your head and know nothing of what you speak of.

Just watch.

we could atleast ease the religions burdon on the slaves silent scope is right but what happens when one slave converts to a differnt religion and is killed for it.

Stop this madness. Immediately. You are in over your head and know nothing of what you speak of.

Just watch.

^^^^^ hehehhe

Really though...

I cant go on this argument for much longer if the anti slave coalition wants them to not have slaves.....THEN STOP HIM!!!

I cant go on this argument for much longer if the anti slave coalition wants them to not have slaves.....THEN STOP HIM!!!

If anyone here wants to avoid a war it is you. I cannot urge you enough, just quit.

Well these peace talks arnt doing anything but making him laugh at you i think you guys should just do something about it. i will not put any military action in this with no allies so i guess i will just watch.:headbang:

ATTENTION, ATTENTION
I will reply to the following posts....

If this war were to happen the people of North Calaveras will side with the anti slave coalition because the people deserve rights.

I will leave you with a statment. JTS has stated that all members of his nation are a part of one unified "Religion" that part of the religions texts is that there is slavery. And according to JTS in the other thread, "its highly regulated; slaves are treated well".

The person who HAD slaves hasn't even replied.

Check the IC thread.....as stated above.

I cant go on this argument for much longer if the anti slave coalition wants them to not have slaves.....THEN STOP HIM!!!

If you want to do anything i would suggest sending in medical teams, food and other supplys for the mess this will cause if it starts....claim nuetral status aswell..

i will just watch.

Praise


Allah

North Calaveras, wtf is going on here?

Anyway, to JST, I had a simple solution that would stop this war from continuing - at least against your nation - which became lost in the thread so read it if you want, basically it involves you abolishing slavery which you may not want to do - but hey, it's the only easy way out of this. Though, as this will probably not appeal - use servants instead.

Official Statement by the Honako Commission

We are dedicated to the complete end of slavery in the world today. Honako urges for this to be solved diplomatically and condemns the hasty declaration of war by the Balkan People, but if JTS wishes to avoid a huge attack by a collation of anti-slavery nations we advise him to abolish all slavery in his country. We can understand your economy may be reliant on slavery, but once you have abolished it we and I'm sure other nations will help you to rebuild your nation into a more civilised place, and I will offer trade and other things to help you. If though you do not sell these slaves and use them as playthings for a greedy nation, we demand you stop this now - we will happily take these slaves off you if you do not want them in your country. The only way to confirm the end of slavery in your nation is to sign the Theebs Accord.

We do not like to infringe on the sovereign rights of a nation - we are generally anti-hostile. Though if you do not remove the savage slave trade from your nation we will consider sending in bombers to destroy military targets on your borders and help other anti-slavery minded nations in their assault.

Mrs. Bourla Parkins,
High Commissioner of the Honako Independence Commission

Honako

I am not abolishing salvery just yet.

Honako

I am not abolishing salvery just yet.

Don't be forced do abandon what your religion and your country has done for generations! Do not let them get this, "Abolish Slavery or it be War!1111!!!!" idea get to your head. Stick to your ideas and follow through! If this "coalition" invades you, I will be there to defend you.


-The Mandalore.

Don't be forced do abandon what your religion and your country has done for generations! Do not let them get this, "Abolish Slavery or it be War!1111!!!!" idea get to your head. Stick to your ideas and follow through! If this "coalition" invades you, I will be there to defend you.


-The Mandalore.

The abolition of slavery is in everyone's best interests, most of all mine. Do not delude him. As much as I want to avoid destruction, I want even more to end this slavery.

I might back down
and abolish it. Not sure though.

Even with Maldorians help i dont think ill survive.

I got into this thinking i'd have the slavers union on my side.

Thing is, he says he's treating them fairly, and it's part of their religion. We can't go and wage a war against a religion, that is against UN resolutions, sepcifically the one that gives freedom of religion.

You can't, but I'm not part of the U.N; they can go spit for all I care. The day someone gets to justify slavery as part of a religion and I'm not allowed to do something about it is the day Jesus and Lucifer go out on the town and agree that they are one another's best friends. Incidentally, attacking other nations regardless of their religion is my religion, so you can't say I can't do it. :)

You can't, but I'm not part of the U.N; they can go spit for all I care. The day someone gets to justify slavery as part of a religion and I'm not allowed to do something about it is the day Jesus and Lucifer go out on the town and agree that they are one another's best friends. Incidentally, attacking other nations regardless of their religion is my religion, so you can't say I can't do it. :)

That makes no sense...That is like saying Buddhists invade US because they are Christian...Invading one for the religion is extremely stupid...*Like what Hitler did* Go do your research...

Don't be forced do abandon what your religion and your country has done for generations! Do not let them get this, "Abolish Slavery or it be War!1111!!!!" idea get to your head. Stick to your ideas and follow through! If this "coalition" invades you, I will be there to defend you.


-The Mandalore.

If Maldorians is in then I am too, regardless of what I have said earlier. Neo-Erusea and Maldorians are allies and we will join Madorians in the protection of national sovereignty from international imperialist forces who wish to implement their so called "righteous" views on another nation with completely different cultures and beliefs.

-Premier David Mondol

That makes no sense...That is like saying Buddhists invade US because they are Christian...Invading one for the religion is extremely stupid...*Like what Hitler did* Go do your research...

...Hitler? Hitler's invasions were pushed by his conception of the Aryan race, not religion. And my last sentence about "our religion" was so very, VERY obviously not true it's unbelievable, don't tell I have to put <sarcasm> tags back in.

Are the peace talks going to start tommorow?

...Hitler? Hitler's invasions were pushed by his conception of the Aryan race, not religion. And my last sentence about "our religion" was so very, VERY obviously not true it's unbelievable, don't tell I have to put <sarcasm> tags back in.


Erm....if we want to discuss historical philosophy, shouldn't we do it elsewhere?

Peace talks. Let's do 'em.

Someone suggested that we do it aboard there countries carrier.

...Hitler? Hitler's invasions were pushed by his conception of the Aryan race, not religion. And my last sentence about "our religion" was so very, VERY obviously not true it's unbelievable, don't tell I have to put <sarcasm> tags back in.

O, I suppose I should go put "sarcasm" tags on too? :)

Someone suggested that we do it aboard there countries carrier.

The Imperial Empire of Maldorians will join this talk

I don't see why you should. You didn't really do anything.

Agreed, aboard the carrier. All who have been involved in this should join.

O, I suppose I should go put "sarcasm" tags on too? :)

Now I'm lost (or you're trying to backtrack and claim you were being sarcastic as well. I'm not fussed which, both lead to you being stupid in the end). Peace talks, I'll have to join them tomorrow because it's midnight here and I'm tired.

Yes, I have to work tomorrow, its 1.21am (I am actually in the Balkans), but my girlfriend has to study in the evening so I won't be rude if I sit on the computer for a bit.


Peace talks. Tomorrow.

I agree.

I don't see why you should. You didn't really do anything.

Yea, Me and Neo-Erusea are joining in on this...Who are you to talk? My nation was going to actually send forces...Not like you...Sending what...10 peace-keeping dudes?

I'm just glad the NC gets some global face time, lol.

I sent 10,000 Marines and 5,000 tanks.

I sent 10,000 Marines and 5,000 tanks.

I sent 600,000 Marines, and thousands of tanks....:)

Can you show me where you posted that?

O my bad...500,000 marines....


Maldorian Forces Sent (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12470755&postcount=17)

The government of Theoropia is sorry for doubting you. It is just that during the whole time, we never noticed that you intended to send those troops. If you had, we would have been annihilated. So, in a way, maybe it was a good thing you didn't get involved.

Again, sorry.

The government of Theoropia is sorry for doubting you. It is just that during the whole time, we never noticed that you intended to send those troops. If you had, we would have been annihilated. So, in a way, maybe it was a good thing you didn't get involved.

Again, sorry.

'Tis fine, my good friend. Everyone makes mistakes, right? So, can I still join the talks?

Also, check your Telegrams please.

Sure, join.

Ok

Replied..

Why not? We are all going to peace talks.

'Tis fine, my good friend. Everyone makes mistakes, right? So, can I still join the talks?

OOC:
Talks are hosted by me so as long as you post in the other thread with your request.

OOC:
Talks are hosted by me so as long as you post in the other thread with your request.

OOC: Ok, I'll go post...

The transport planes lumbered down the runway, finally lifting off. With only 81 casualties suffered, the two divisions were now going home. It had been a brief, yet eventful war, but it also gave the men experience. The Commander wiped a tear from his eye. He would miss those 81 soldiers. His assistant came in, and said, "Sir, peace talks are going to be held tomorrow. Sir, the war is over." The Commander replied, "Yes...but who really won?". There was no reply as the planes flew on, headed towards the Theoropian border.

How did those 81 die?

You attacked them.

Own'd!

Ohh.... Umm... This is... un-comfortable... Sup? Lol

Theoropia

the wars not over yet
The peace talks will determine if the cease fire is permant

dont withdraw your troops yet

I have left only a small unit, about 100 soldiers and 50 tanks, behind just in case. I have great trust in this peace treaty.

COCC: @Buddha C: xD

The Communist party of NC has decided to send food and medical supplies to the area.:p

OOC:
Would everyone please see the IC thread. Thank you.

Where?

OOC:
Peace Talks Thread HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522193). I need to know who all is going to be there so I can RP the amount of my Pelicans comming back to the ship in my 2nd post.

Me.

Servants Corps (me) as well.