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Now as McPsy asked the info on the H.A.E.S.B.

H- High}
A-Altitude} or long range depending on the situation
E-EMP- flak capable
S- Surface to Air missile
B- Battery.

The defense system was created to repel air attacks aimed at the fortress where the original CEO of Raven corps now resides. Throught the use of the Special Detection system known as DOMar. The system Fires a missle capable of travling a great distance to try and repel air attacks. The missiles are a brilliant weapon in terms of their multi-use ability. The missile has two detonation modes.

1. Dead on strike- self explianitory
2. Proximity EMP Flak - The Proximity EMP flak is the second function allowing missiles who have narrowly missed the targets to explode sending a 400 foot EMP wave effectively taking out Aircraft Avionics

The missiles themselves have been shielded agianst the friendly fire EMP blast so that any aircraft that may have been spared from the first will have more to deal with. The missiles have 2 forms of aircraft tracking:

1. DOMar sensory detection- original means of fire and detection
2. Avionic Radar tracking- secondary means to futher ensure a direct hit.

The dead-on strike is fine, but the EMP wave seems a bit too big; if it even comes close to our bombers flying in standard formation, it could conceivably knock out three or four at a time. Something like a hundred foot wave (hundred foot radius, not diameter) would be less crazy. The rest of the stuff - the gats and the sea planes are fine, that's no problem. The reason I'm being pedantic over this is because we don't really maintain a serious offensive navy; ours is restricted to defense. If you were to attack the ASA fleets, our response would have to be either aerial or a Special Unit assault.

The Reason behind the blast being so big is to really play with your mind. think about it. you flying along and you see one explosion but see 4 or 5 planes drop out of the sky... That would seriously mess with any pilots head.

Honestly, I think just seeing one plane drop out of the sky with no damage would be enough to do that. Still, it's unlikely we'd actually have to fight unles you engaged the ASA fleets, so I can live with it.

your attack will be done by the time I get anywhere near by.

True. Incidentally, what is the Sovereign League? I think I've seen it referenced somewhere else than the newest Llanoran post, but I can't be sure.

Scratch that, it's on the wiki. Laissez-faire capitalism and liberal democracy? lulz. Much lulz indeed.

To me they are nothing to be concerned with as I have never had any hostile action with them. but by their name I would say they would be people who protect national Sovergienty... but they sided with the Freeks, so that is not the case.

True. Incidentally, what is the Sovereign League? I think I've seen it referenced somewhere else than the newest Llanoran post, but I can't be sure.

Scratch that, it's on the wiki. Laissez-faire capitalism and liberal democracy? lulz. Much lulz indeed.

Why is the Sovereign League 'much lulz' its the most powerful alliance on NS Earth.

The sovriegn league are the ones that innitialy ordered a naval blockade of Llanoran. i assumed every nation that sent ships against Llanoran were a part of that

Why is the Sovereign League 'much lulz' its the most powerful alliance on NS Earth.

Powerful alliances are always lulz, whether it be MT or FT.

Why is the Sovereign League 'much lulz' its the most powerful alliance on NS Earth.

The LEAGUE isn't much lulz, it's support of laissez-faire capitalism is. This is actually more suited for an in-character post, we're not a fan of laissez-faire and even less of liberal democracy.

Llano are we still in the union or no? ARM is about ready to mass produce weapons. It took some time to set up, but ARM might just be able to assist.

yeah you're in the union. Until we get blown to bits anyway :eek:

We have a FT guy though. Anything they do is null-basically....they can fight against AMF and a few others. Right?

If you read the IC thread you'll see that it's basically my tiny navy against multiple nations' huge fleets. No shots have been fired yet though. AMF havn't deployed against us.

We have a FT guy though. Anything they do is null-basically....they can fight against AMF and a few others. Right?

They're null against anyone who doesn't accept them, except in the case of a thread starting defender, which falls under both thread starter's and defender's perogatives. If the attacker disagrees, they can ignore, but thus kill the roleplay.

I have learned this through years of mixing FT and MT.

Thus, I suggest our FT elements stay out of trouble.

You, however, have a problem of a different sort, Eralineta. Do you know what got me on the map in FT?

Backstabbing. Mekantans are notorious backstabbers if they don't like thier allies. They also very rarely need a good reason to pound someone into the dirt.

This makes them very convinient for persuing OOC vendettas, because ICly it's very easy to justify thier aggression. Look to the thread between you and McPsychoville. Now ask yourself why I told you about the aggression and mentioned the thread.

Llanoran, I'm doing some calculations on my navy so I don't accidently wank out my MT forces. I'll back you up when I figure out what a good navy for a high economy, 50% armed forces funding would be.

With 50% funding, you could probably get away with a 3% population military. I have a calculator I've been using for my military, you want it?

give us the link McPsychoville

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372637

It's one of the ones in there.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372637

It's one of the ones in there.

They don't work well...

They don't work well...

Quiet, you. They work fine. You just have to know how to use Excel.

Usually she can do anything you tell her to do, just not very well, but at least she keeps comming back to life. </reference most of you won't get>

Calculation time...

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why I like FT. I can pour my 54% funding and 6.84 billion population into thirty warships, instead of worrying about ten million marines when it's the smallest part of my armed forces!

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God damn it...

SL is the greatest semi-alliance that exists in MT NS. Its members are the leading naval powers (Prae and Questers) as well as space union, a major aircraft manufacturer.

Plus both myself and Questers lead the GDI, which is a pretty big alliance in itself, including IH, Stevid and quite a few other large nations. Pretty much we link together nicely in other words.

As for Raven, drop ships are PMT/FT tech....i personally play NS MT (say around 2020?), whilst PMT is more like 2050 IMO right?

All Sovereign League Nations also have the full use of the Vetakan OBSAT system details of which can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521785)

1) As a side note, spending more than, oh, 10-15% of your GDP on the military will make your nation look a lot like North Korea. In that people will have no food and live in ramshackle housing, industry will be fleeing the place like rats from a sinking ship, and the leaders would have to emplace martial law because spending so much on the military and requiring so much of the population to participate in it would bankrupt most other things. Not to mention, there would be very few corporations left to manufacture your weapons and uniforms and MREs, so it would ultimately be counterproductive. (Given that Earthfall Island is anyway practically third world with <$20k GDP/capita, and seems to be an insane dictatorship anyway, I gather this has already been understood.)

Yes, I know that Catalasia vis-a-vis NSTracker is totally impossible in the real world. I've been trying to lower its tax rate for ages, among other things.

2) Clandonia Prime, that statement is debatable. The Sovereign League has one or two major powers -- mostly Questers and Praetonia. It has several middle-sized, rather inactive nations (Space Union, Skinny87, The Silver Sky, Velkya). It has a bunch of newbies (Vetaka, Aunesia, Clandonia).

It's rather powerful, but it's not that powerful -- if a few of the alliances still around on NS Earth ever got off their rear ends to counter the SL, I doubt it would breeze right through. Anyway, the alliance is large and slightly unstable, and conflicts over certain issues could easily tear it apart.

But that's beside the point.

1) As a side note, spending more than, oh, 10-15% of your GDP on the military will make your nation look a lot like North Korea. In that people will have no food and live in ramshackle housing, industry will be fleeing the place like rats from a sinking ship, and the leaders would have to emplace martial law because spending so much on the military and requiring so much of the population to participate in it would bankrupt most other things. Not to mention, there would be very few corporations left to manufacture your weapons and uniforms and MREs, so it would ultimately be counterproductive. (Given that Earthfall Island is anyway practically third world with <$20k GDP/capita, and seems to be an insane dictatorship anyway, I gather this has already been understood.)

I roleplay Earthfall Island as being very self-destructive as-is, kept intact only by the cold steel fist of Kaerek's enforcers. However, unlike North Korea, Earthfall Island is more or less a free market system, with the day to day operations of the loosely defined nation being handled by megacorporations with little government oversight. This kind of system works with a Mekantan population, replacing megacorporations with warlords, given the lower level of Mekantan needs than humans. Due in great part to Kaerek's ignorance, he doesn't see that it doesn't work nearly as well for a Terran nation. Hell, much of the population is practically enslaved as-is, either directly under Kaerek or one of the megacorporations with an interest in keeping Kaerek in power so their cheap labor doesn't dry up. Without the bastion of terror and force the Kaerek regime represents, Earthfall Island would collapse into a handful of bickering megacorporations and rioting human resources.

I would, however, like to know where you figured <$20k GDP/capita constitutes being third world. Last I checked, Israel's was in the $19k range, (around the same as Earthfall Island) and South Korea, far from a third world nation, was only around $16k. Factoring in distribution of that wealth, I can see a possible arguement, but I'm curious how you figured the GDP/capita arguement. That and, do we speak from experience on the <15% = North Korea bit? I couldn't help but notice your military spending was in the 60% range.