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Vietnam-Style NS War OOC and Sign-up Thread

The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 06:09
So, yeah, we were talking (Tocrowkia and I), and we agreed that it'd be nice to have an NS Vietnam war.
So, Toc will put up a puppet which will be RP as if it were in the millions, then we'll have the south goverment be attacked by northern communists (both RP'd by NSers), and nations will jump to support both sides (thus creating a proxy war, napalm'ing whole villages is a-ok).
However, Im looking at this conflict as a whole, so it should have political repercusions in your nation (Hippies and Police beating down said hippies included).

Anyone interested?

So far:

South Capitalist Goverment: Maldorians
North Communist Goverment:
Communist Supporters:

The World Soviet Party
Czechalrus
Ghost Tigers Rise
Osteia
Evil Gopher Eaters
KaNgwane

Capitalist Supporters:

Dragonicale
Brydog
Oslea
Tolvan
Adamta

Media:

New Brittonia
Kanami


By the way, Im trying to keep this balanced, so no "OMG BAJIZILLION ARMIES!", and if too many people sign up for one side, Im going to have to reject some to even things out.
Route1
25-03-2007, 06:12
Hopefully, this one won't die, as did many others...


I would like to take the South Capitalist Government, please...


Edit: Can I take like the UK instead?
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 06:14
South Capitalist Government = Me...
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 06:17
I like to be the Capitalist Supporter.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 06:17
Hopefully, this one won't die, as did many others...


I would like to take the South Capitalist Government, please...


Edit: Can I take like the UK instead?

There is no UK, we are not talking RL Vietnam War, we are talking about an NS war which will be waged a la Vietnam.

South Capitalist Government = Me...

Sure, if you promise to be active.
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 06:18
Sure, if you promise to be active.

Understood!
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 06:18
I like to be the Capitalist Supporter.

Sure.
Czechalrus
25-03-2007, 06:26
Could I be a Communist supporter?
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 06:28
Could I be a Communist supporter?

Sure thing.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 06:33
Why is the media it's own position?
SilentScope001
25-03-2007, 06:42
I'm guessing its an indepedent position, like a GameMaster, to regulate the conflict, and to determine who is winning or losing, so that powergaming does not occur.

I'll join with the Commie supporters.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 06:44
Yeah, but does that mean the one with the media position gets to RP all of the involved nations media?
Czechalrus
25-03-2007, 06:45
Will we be using Vietnam Era tech?
The Black Agents
25-03-2007, 06:45
I will play a random slaughter fest, that kills villages and places other nations uniforms in the area to frame the nation of brutal acts!
Brydog
25-03-2007, 06:47
I will be a captialist supporter.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 06:47
I will play a random slaughter fest, that kills villages and places other nations uniforms in the area to frame the nation of brutal acts!

You won't need to frame me. ;)
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 06:48
All we need is North Communisim Government
Tolvan
25-03-2007, 07:15
I might be interested in the commie government. It'd be a change from my ultracapitalist, isolationist nation.

Only thing is I'm only online at night, since I work all day and they block most sites on my computer.:(
Oslea
25-03-2007, 10:38
I'm interested in supporting the capitalists. I feel like a good old-style Oslean Chemical Bombing on one of the villages o_O

Also...

Will we be using Vietnam Era tech?

^ What he said.
Allanea
25-03-2007, 10:40
Can I RP having citizens travel and volunteer for hte capitaists? Or having some semi-terrorist groups crop up to fight the communists?
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 13:55
Woot Im a Capitalist Supporter!
Corbournne
25-03-2007, 15:06
If Tolvan does not choose the Communist government, I'll take them. If he does, I'll be a supporter.
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 16:10
Capitalist is perfect for me :P. I have a GIGANTIC GAP between the rich and poor. 75,212 ranked for most equalitive income.
Kolvokia
25-03-2007, 16:18
If possible I'd like to play a small group of Black Knights (a term for men who have, for whatever reason been kicked out of the Kolvokian Military) with no particular political allegiance.
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 16:38
That doesn't make sense though... Are you a Communist or a Capitalists?
Note:My troops specializes in Guerilla Warfare but does decently in Open Warfare
Kolvokia
25-03-2007, 17:01
That doesn't make sense though... Are you a Communist or a Capitalists?
Note:My troops specializes in Guerilla Warfare but does decently in Open Warfare

Neither. Kolvokia does not label itself with economic ideologies. Furthermore, this group isn't part of the Kolvokian government, and if anything, would probably rent out their services at extremely low prices to serve as protection for a village or group of villages that doesn't want to get caught in the middle.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 17:33
Yeah, but does that mean the one with the media position gets to RP all of the involved nations media?

No.

Will we be using Vietnam Era tech?

Not necessarily, only if you want to, as this happens in MT-NS.

I'm guessing its an indepedent position, like a GameMaster, to regulate the conflict, and to determine who is winning or losing, so that powergaming does not occur.

I'll join with the Commie supporters.

No, its not, and added to the commies.

I will be a captialist supporter.

Okay.

I'm interested in supporting the capitalists. I feel like a good old-style Oslean Chemical Bombing on one of the villages o_O


Added

Can I RP having citizens travel and volunteer for hte capitaists? Or having some semi-terrorist groups crop up to fight the communists?

Define "semi-terrorist".

MEDIA

Basically, its an open position for people who will not join the conflict (as in combat), but would like to RP in the thread, thus, they can join as media and report from the battlefields without actually fighting themselves.
That doesnt mean you cannont "accidentally" kill them if they write bad stuff about you :p
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 17:38
Oh, one last thing:

We are all sending our troops in as "logistic support" for the goverment we like the most, we all know our guys are going to fight, but all sides are trying to keep this a "proxy" war and not a full-scale war, so, lets say a group of Czchalrussian soldiers accidentally stumbles into a group of Brydog'ians and massacre them, Im sure they dont want to risk a war, so when they write their report, they'll probably write "We found a group of hostiles and eliminated them, ID'd as Southern Troops" aka lie for your own sake.
KaNgwane
25-03-2007, 17:39
KaNgwane will supply men, advisers, technology, and supplies to the Communists.
Brydog
25-03-2007, 17:47
My forces are going to be a kind of peacekeeping force to prevent it from becoming a full-blown war, because my government is made of liberals, socialists and some right-wing elements.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 17:50
My forces are going to be a kind of peacekeeping force to prevent it from becoming a full-blown war, because my government is made of liberals, socialists and some right-wing elements.

Sure, but if you ever get attacked/attack someone else, though you are not required to, try to make it so that your troops cover up who really attacked them/was attacked by you.
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 17:54
Lol TWSP, we just got like 5 new people in 1 day....
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 17:56
KaNgwane will supply men, advisers, technology, and supplies to the Communists.

Are you going to be active?

If possible I'd like to play a small group of Black Knights (a term for men who have, for whatever reason been kicked out of the Kolvokian Military) with no particular political allegiance.

And what are they going to do, exactly?

I might be interested in the commie government. It'd be a change from my ultracapitalist, isolationist nation.

Only thing is I'm only online at night, since I work all day and they block most sites on my computer.:(

Im sorry, but we need someone who can post more often, however, I can sign you up for the supporters if you want me to.
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-03-2007, 18:16
I'm in. I hope this one'll take off (didn't Toc try to start one a couple months ago, and it never actually started?)


Oh, and I'll be supporting the commies.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 18:22
I'm in. I hope this one'll take off (didn't Toc try to start one a couple months ago, and it never actually started?)


Oh, and I'll be supporting the commies.

Good, added.

By the way:

South Population: 15 Million
North Population: 12 Million

Both goverments (Maldorians and whoever gets appointed for north) need to make some sort of information sheets/factbooks for their side of the country.
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 18:24
Good, added.

By the way:

South Population: 15 Million
North Population: 12 Million

Both goverments (Maldorians and whoever gets appointed for north) need to make some sort of information sheets/factbooks for their side of the country.

Ok, is the 15 million my population or military?
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 19:25
Ok, is the 15 million my population or military?

Total population, thats is why I dont want people to bring in huge armies.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 19:25
Population seems a bit...small. Remember, I was planning on killing at least ten million people...
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 19:26
*Cracks knuckles*

Genocide time...
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 19:27
Population seems a bit...small. Remember, I was planning on killing at least ten million people...

But third-world countries dont have giant populations just outta nowhere. At least I think they dont.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 19:27
Remember. This is NS. Anything is possible...
Kolvokia
25-03-2007, 19:29
And what are they going to do, exactly?


As I believe I already explained, in all probability they'll hire themselves out as protection to a village who decides they just want to be left alone. If that village happens to be the one of the ones BA's Roguis Agentis pick to wipe out, it's also possible they'll declare a Blood War (a war of vengeance) against whoever the Rogues frame.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 19:30
Remember. This is NS. Anything is possible...

Indeed, by the way, how would you feel about this taking place in the NS-60s?
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 19:31
Indeed, by the way, how would you feel about this taking place in the NS-60s?

1) Are you going to raise the population?

2) This would be cool in the 1960's *If that is what you meant by NS-60's*
Kolvokia
25-03-2007, 19:31
But third-world countries dont have giant populations just outta nowhere. At least I think they dont.

What about China in WW2?
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-03-2007, 19:47
But third-world countries dont have giant populations just outta nowhere. At least I think they dont.

Uh, 3rd world countries tend to have relatively huge populations for their size. The current numbers for this country are less than half the size of Vietnam in 1970.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 19:58
Indeed, by the way, how would you feel about this taking place in the NS-60s?

I am against it.
Corbournne
25-03-2007, 20:04
If Tolvan does not choose the Communist government, I'll take them. If he does, I'll be a supporter.

Just making sure this didn't get lost.

I'm in favor of the '60s, btw.
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-03-2007, 20:08
I am against it.

Why?
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 20:10
Why?

Are you LNI? I read your Sig...
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 20:12
Why?

Because, for one, the Government my nation had back in the 60's wouldn't give a rats ass about some turd-world country. Two, my military is based off of high-tech (by MT levels) weapon systems, and it would essentialy null my arsenal. Three, how do we know the NS 60's were as politically unstable times as they were in our own world?
New Brittonia
25-03-2007, 20:29
Since thic is my first RP, can i start out small as a news media outlet and some journalists

Is the 60's or 21st century, because

'60s media: Radio, newspaper, magazine, 1 nightly hour broacast tv news

2007 media: same as above with internet, 24 hour news, youtube, the blogosphere

so this is something I need to know
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-03-2007, 20:32
Are you LNI? I read your Sig...

Then you know the answer. :)

Because, for one, the Government my nation had back in the 60's wouldn't give a rats ass about some turd-world country.
Why not?

Two, my military is based off of high-tech (by MT levels) weapon systems, and it would essentialy null my arsenal.
Not really. Everyone else lose an equal amount of tech, so you'd still be the most advanced.

Three, how do we know the NS 60's were as politically unstable times as they were in our own world?
When has NS ever been politically stable?
Evil Gopher Eaters
25-03-2007, 21:39
Hey I am interested in joining up. I would most likely be on the communist side.

In the 60s would be great. It would keep everything more Vietnamesque. If it is 21st century; night vision, heat cameras, MT NS Navies, and modern smart weapons would change Vietnam war. It gives a man with an AK-47 much better fighting chance, which was a lot why the war resulted as it did.
Osteia
25-03-2007, 21:43
Commie for me please....if there are too many i'll go capitalist.....

But commie is my first choice..
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 22:10
I guess we'll have to vote about the timeline, specific thread for it, or do we vote here?

Commie for me please....if there are too many i'll go capitalist.....

But commie is my first choice..

I'll add ya'.

Uh, 3rd world countries tend to have relatively huge populations for their size. The current numbers for this country are less than half the size of Vietnam in 1970.

Okay, I'll up the South 24 million and the North to 23 million, that sound ok?

As for Kolvokia, go ahead then.
Osteia
25-03-2007, 22:14
Ok thanks :) this picked up pretty fast it looks cool....sooo im commie? :) ....and uhh IM IN FAVOR OF NAM!! ....not being the 60's it would take away from this Rp?




ON another note!! who seen Flags of our fathers, about Iwo Jima? there is another movie from the Japs side...Letters from Iwo Jima!! thats cool! i can't wait to see that!
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 22:17
Hey I am interested in joining up. I would most likely be on the communist side.

In the 60s would be great. It would keep everything more Vietnamesque. If it is 21st century; night vision, heat cameras, MT NS Navies, and modern smart weapons would change Vietnam war. It gives a man with an AK-47 much better fighting chance, which was a lot why the war resulted as it did.

I'll add you as well.
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 22:20
When we starting?
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 22:25
Yeah, I can't wait to blow up some commies! XD

Don't mean to be offensive.
Tolvan
25-03-2007, 22:29
I'll sign on as a capitalist supporter, but I'll mostly use special ops troops and mercenaries.

I need to know if this is the 60s or not, since in the 60s my country was still a nominal part of the British Empire.
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 22:31
Could you post the year?
Osteia
25-03-2007, 22:33
I say 60's if it's not....it has nothing to do with the title...just another war...
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 22:33
When we starting?

When we get a north goverment.

I'll sign on as a capitalist supporter, but I'll mostly use special ops troops and mercenaries.

I need to know if this is the 60s or not, since in the 60s my country was still a nominal part of the British Empire.

What British Empire?
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 22:46
If Tolvan does not choose the Communist government, I'll take them. If he does, I'll be a supporter.

He's a victim....uhhh...I mean volunteer...
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 22:50
He's a victim....uhhh...I mean volunteer...

Then he'll have to play the part.

Maldorians, start preparing the South Factbook, we are going 60s BIATCH!
Osteia
25-03-2007, 22:55
Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaa!
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 22:55
Then he'll have to play the part.

Maldorians, start preparing the South Factbook, we are going 60s BIATCH!

This is hard, man...is it ok if just use the vehicles that the South Korean military used during Korean War?
Corbournne
25-03-2007, 22:57
He's a victim....uhhh...I mean volunteer...

Ha, we'll see who's laughing when this war goes just like the real one. :D

Edit: Woohoo! '60s! And I'll work on a Factbook.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 22:59
This is hard, man...is it ok if just use the vehicles that the South Korean military used during Korean War?

Sure, thought thats mostly used WWII Stuff...
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:01
Sure, thought thats mostly used WWII Stuff...

It says that the South Korean's had 65,000 soldiers....Is that reasonable for this RP?
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 23:03
It says that the South Korean's had 65,000 soldiers....Is that reasonable for this RP?

Yeah, however, we are not talking Korea-Era, we are talking Nam' BIATCH!
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:05
Yeah, however, we are not talking Korea-Era, we are talking Nam' BIATCH!

OOOOOOOOOO...>_>


I am South Vietnam...but in NS....'60's....I got it....
Evil Gopher Eaters
25-03-2007, 23:06
This should be awsome. I'll get my stuff ready.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 23:06
Fucking Christ.
Dragonicale
25-03-2007, 23:11
Woohoo Lets Blow Up Some Commies!
Osteia
25-03-2007, 23:28
^^^^^ Hehehehe you an't gonna be sayin Wooo hoo when the commies blow you up :P are you?

And Maldorians....NAM..not Korea, it was mostly all WW2 tech....same stuff different war,

NAM was the evolution of war!! common now :P..think about it!
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 23:29
Woohoo Lets Blow Up Some Commies!

Or capitalists for that matter =p
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:29
^^^^^ Hehehehe you an't gonna be sayin Wooo hoo when the commies blow you up :P are you?

And Maldorians....NAM..not Korea, it was mostly all WW2 tech....same stuff different war,

NAM was the evolution of war!! common now :P

Lol, I don't know why, but I thought we were doing the Korean War...>_>
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 23:31
*puts gun barrel in my mouth and pulls the trigger, splattering my brains all over the wall*
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:33
*puts gun barrel in my mouth and pulls the trigger, splattering my brains all over the wall*

I read somewhere, that doing that is impossible....Your nerves in your hand won't let you shoot yourself when the gun is in your body (e.g. mouth)....


1) Should the factbook be just the military or the 'South Vietnam" also...
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 23:35
I read somewhere, that doing that is impossible....Your nerves in your hand won't let you shoot yourself when the gun is in your body (e.g. mouth)....


1) Should the factbook be just the military or the 'South Vietnam" also...

The country, which still has no name (The Democratic Republic of Sampang and The Union of Communist States of Sampang?) needs a complete factbook (both military and civilian, maybe some sort of map with main cities marked?).
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 23:35
I read somewhere, that doing that is impossible....Your nerves in your hand won't let you shoot yourself when the gun is in your body (e.g. mouth)....


1) Should the factbook be just the military or the 'South Vietnam" also...

I suppose that's why a large percentage of suicides are gun-shot related then? 0.0
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:35
I suppose that's why a large percentage of suicides are gun-shot related then? 0.0

You can put a gun to your head, but you can't put a gun in your mouth...
Brydog
25-03-2007, 23:36
http://www.remtek.com/arms/fn/fal/5000/00.gif
The standard rifle of the Republic Military in 1960's, you know it's name.
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 23:37
http://www.remtek.com/arms/fn/fal/5000/00.gif
The standard rifle of the Republic Military in 1960's, you know it's name.

FN-FAL?
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:38
Should the factbook be just the military or the 'South Vietnam" country also...
Brydog
25-03-2007, 23:38
yes, Brydog didn't use the M-16 until 1975
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-03-2007, 23:38
I read somewhere, that doing that is impossible....Your nerves in your hand won't let you shoot yourself when the gun is in your body (e.g. mouth)....

That's completely erroneous. Look at the Budd Dwyer video if you need proof.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_dwyer)

He clearly puts the barrel of the revolver in his mouth before he squeezes the trigger.
Osteia
25-03-2007, 23:39
Lol, I don't know why, but I thought we were doing the Korean War...>_>


Hehehe it's all good, im just buggin! :p
The World Soviet Party
25-03-2007, 23:39
The country, which still has no name (The Democratic Republic of Sampang and The Union of Communist States of Sampang?) needs a complete factbook (both military and civilian, maybe some sort of map with main cities marked?).

QFT!
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:43
QFT!

*Cries*
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 23:45
I'd still prefer this take place in the modern era. But whatever.
Maldorians
25-03-2007, 23:47
Yea same....There is nothing about the stupid vietnam dudes....
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 23:50
Anyways, since I kinda am the largest cappy supporter...anyone mind if I lead the operation?
Ghost Tigers Rise
25-03-2007, 23:52
I don't really care which era it takes place in. My tech will only really be different when it comes to vehicles (my troops still use variants of FN FALs and SKS's).

I have three questions:

1) Who's gonna write the factbook?

2) What kinda terrain are we looking at?

3) When will this start?
Osteia
25-03-2007, 23:55
I'd still prefer this take place in the modern era. But whatever.

There are tons of MT rp's....this should be 60's, the title... VIETNAM-style NS war... :) Thus it's different from all them MT Rp's

Oh and a map?
Brydog
25-03-2007, 23:56
Anyways, since I kinda am the largest cappy supporter...anyone mind if I lead the operation?


actually, im the largest nation but im not taking sides, so you can lead the actual captialist force while my guys help captialist and communist villagers and other things.
Tocrowkia
25-03-2007, 23:58
There are tons of MT rp's....this should be 60's, the title... VIETNAM-style NS war...

Vietnam style = Anti-insurgency, media cynicism and political climate. Kinda like Iraq. Which, ya know, takes place in the here and now.
Osteia
26-03-2007, 00:00
Vietnam style = Anti-insurgency, media cynicism and political climate. Kinda like Iraq. Which, ya know, takes place in the here and now.

Ohh.. i didn't look at it like that, hehe..i see, but im still for 60's :) spices it up, MT is real common..
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 00:05
Vietnam style = Anti-insurgency, media cynicism and political climate. Kinda like Iraq. Which, ya know, takes place in the here and now.

Despite all the similarities, there are also huge differences between the wars.

For example, there isn't quite the same feeling of hopelessness. Everyone you know isn't being drafted and sent to the 'nam (well, for most people. A lot of my cousins joined up and got shipped to Iraq). There's no Kent State. There's no Tet Offensive.

And, the most palpable difference between the two wars is the media coverage. In Vietnam, you could turn on the tele and be subjected to a barrage of images: battles, firefights, bombings, oppressive jungles, atrocities, mounds of body bags. Now, when you see the television, all you see are press conferences, diagrams, maps, numbers, and the occasional tank moving placidly on a desert road.
Tocrowkia
26-03-2007, 00:17
For example, there isn't quite the same feeling of hopelessness.

So, Bush and the Pentagon telling us we're going to be doing the same war on terror bullshit for decades to come isn't hopeless?

Everyone you know isn't being drafted and sent to the 'nam (well, for most people. A lot of my cousins joined up and got shipped to Iraq). There's no Kent State. There's no Tet Offensive.

Nah. There's just the "Stay the Course, lol!" and Bush's little troop surge.

And, the most palpable difference between the two wars is the media coverage. In Vietnam, you could turn on the tele and be subjected to a barrage of images: battles, firefights, bombings, oppressive jungles, atrocities, mounds of body bags. Now, when you see the television, all you see are press conferences, diagrams, maps, numbers, and the occasional tank moving placidly on a desert road.

Depends on what newstation you're watching, I guess. I frequently get all the bombings, battles and firefights you've just mentioned where I live.

Yeah...but anyway, this is not the thread for this. ;)
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 00:32
hey, sign me up.

I will be NBNN, the New Brittonian News Network



what is it, 60's or MT NS?
Dragonicale
26-03-2007, 00:34
Its the 60's! Go hippies XD
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 00:40
I don't really care which era it takes place in. My tech will only really be different when it comes to vehicles (my troops still use variants of FN FALs and SKS's).

I have three questions:

1) Who's gonna write the factbook?

2) What kinda terrain are we looking at?

3) When will this start?

1) North & South will make Factbooks for themselves, the rest of us will downgrade our populations to the millions (no bigger than the RL US please).

2) Dense, thick jungle

3) When everything's ready
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 00:45
Ok, I have the number of vehicles and copters, I just need to find what vehicles in that time period...
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 00:48
So, Bush and the Pentagon telling us we're going to be doing the same war on terror bullshit for decades to come isn't hopeless?
No, it isn't hopeless, for the majority. At least they're being honest for once..


Nah. There's just the "Stay the Course, lol!" and Bush's little troop surge.
Yeah, stay the course... because that's a horrific event like Kent State or My Lai. And a troop surge =/= a draft.


Depends on what newstation you're watching, I guess. I frequently get all the bombings, battles and firefights you've just mentioned where I live.
They really show images of blood spurting from chest wounds, summary executions on street corners, follow G.I.'s as they stagger tiredly from one firefight to the next, and, all in all, take on a sensationalist "we had to destroy the city to save it" view of the war?
What station do you watch and how the hell do they get away with it? They developed all kinds of rules about wartime reporting after Vietnam to prevent that kind of thing, the most well-known of which being the "no body bags/caskets may be recorded".
Maybe your referring to the watered-down footage we have to day: a soldier firing his weapon, with no target in sight, views of bombings through the black-and-white missile cam, etc...
Yeah...but anyway, this is not the thread for this. ;)
Wasn't trying to start a debate, but since we're here...
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 00:49
Hey, i'm the press.

What should I do?
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 00:50
Wasn't trying to start a debate, but since we're here...

I really don't want to have debate because I won't do it and then no one will care about me
Osteia
26-03-2007, 00:51
No, it isn't hopeless, for the majority. At least they're being honest for once..



Yeah, stay the course... because that's a horrific event like Kent State or My Lai. And a troop surge =/= a draft.



They really show images of blood spurting from chest wounds, summary executions on street corners, follow G.I.'s as they stagger tiredly from one firefight to the next, and, all in all, take on a sensationalist "we had to destroy the city to save it" view of the war?
What station do you watch and how the hell do they get away with it? They developed all kinds of rules about wartime reporting after Vietnam to prevent that kind of thing, the most well-known of which being the "no body bags/caskets may be recorded".
Maybe your referring to the watered-down footage we have to day: a soldier firing his weapon, with no target in sight, views of bombings through the black-and-white missile cam, etc...

Wasn't trying to start a debate, but since we're here...

^^^^^^^^^^^

HERE HERE!!!
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 00:58
I really don't want to have debate because I won't do it and then no one will care about me

I was just joking. I'm not trying to draw anyone into anything.

But [threatening voice] if Toc persists, I will have to slay her[/threatening voice]
(it IS her, right?)
Osteia
26-03-2007, 01:01
I do really see what you are saying Ghost Tiger....
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 01:02
I was just joking. I'm not trying to draw anyone into anything.

But [threatening voice] if Toc persists, I will have to slay her[/threatening voice]
(it IS her, right?)

and WHO's Toc???
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 01:04
and WHO's Toc???

Tocrowkia
Buddha C
26-03-2007, 01:09
and WHO's Toc???

Tocrowkia

NB PWNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11ELEVEN111111ONEEEE
Tocrowkia
26-03-2007, 01:10
I was just joking. I'm not trying to draw anyone into anything.

But [threatening voice] if Toc persists, I will have to slay her[/threatening voice]
(it IS her, right?)

When last I checked, yes.
Buddha C
26-03-2007, 01:10
You CHECK?
Tocrowkia
26-03-2007, 01:12
Doesn't everyone?
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 01:12
When last I checked, yes.
Ah. Good.
You CHECK?
...who're you, exactly?
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 01:12
Anyways, here's the first of TWSP's 60s Weapons:

M-64 Soviet Sub-Machine Gun

M-64 SSMG 9mm
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4118/m64sketch2vf0.png

M-64A1 SSMG .45 ACP
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/522/m64sketch3yw8.png

art by Mina Synd

Weight: Around 2 Kilograms unloaded
Caliber: 9mm Para (can be rechambered for .45 ACP)
Capacity: 32 rounds per clip (30 if .45)
Modes: Full Auto Only
Rate of Fire: 600'ish Rounds Per Minute
Effective Range: 60 Meters
Buddha C
26-03-2007, 01:13
Doesn't everyone?

Good Point...

Ah. Good.

...who're you, exactly?

Lol. Just passing by.
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 01:13
Lol'd....>_<
Nerotika
26-03-2007, 01:14
What if you want to join this but not be on either communist or capitalist side. Kind of a seperate, maybe Guerilla forces?
Osteia
26-03-2007, 01:14
Anyways, here's the first of TWSP's 60s Weapons:

M-64 Soviet Sub-Machine Gun

M-64 SSMG 9mm
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4118/m64sketch2vf0.png

M-64A1 SSMG .45 ACP
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/522/m64sketch3yw8.png

art by Mina Synd

Weight: Around 2 Kilograms unloaded
Caliber: 9mm Para (can be rechambered for .45 ACP)
Capacity: 32 rounds per clip (30 if .45)
Modes: Full Auto Only
Rate of Fire: 600'ish Rounds Per Minute
Effective Range: 60 Meters

^^^^^^^

Looks kinda like a Greese gun... (American)
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 01:15
^^^^^^^

Looks kinda like a Greese gun... (American)

Indeed.
Buddha C
26-03-2007, 01:17
Didn't the Soviet's copy some of their designs off of the Americans? (B52 Bomber?)
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 01:32
Tocrowkia

thanks

NB PWNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11ELEVEN111111ONEEEE

Okayyyyy. . . . who was that guy?
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 01:45
Didn't the Soviet's copy some of their designs off of the Americans? (B52 Bomber?)

I dunno.
Tocrowkia
26-03-2007, 02:09
So...guys, I'm tryin' to think what I should call my end of this little war. I have a few options right now.

Operation: Valkyrie Missile

Operation: Thunderstruck

Operation: Swift Justice

Operation: Eternal-Blue

So...which one should I go with?
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 02:11
So...guys, I'm tryin' to think what I should call my end of this little war. I have a few options right now.

Operation: Valkyrie Missile

Operation: Thunderstruck

Operation: Swift Justice

Operation: Eternal-Blue

So...which one should I go with?

Operation: Megadeath XD
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 02:12
Swift Justice or Thunderstruck
Tocrowkia
26-03-2007, 02:15
Operation: Megadeath XD

Nay. That will reveal to much of our plan.
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 02:15
Operation: Holiday In Cambodia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Dead_Kennedys_-_Holiday_In_Cambodia_US_picture_cover.jpg/200px-Dead_Kennedys_-_Holiday_In_Cambodia_US_picture_cover.jpg
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 02:16
Operation: Holiday In Cambodia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Dead_Kennedys_-_Holiday_In_Cambodia_US_picture_cover.jpg/200px-Dead_Kennedys_-_Holiday_In_Cambodia_US_picture_cover.jpg

Lol Own'd!
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 02:17
Im calling mine "Operation: Freedom Sting (or Ring)"

I already have a tagline for it: "Freedom Rings Motherhumper, are ya' going to take the call?"
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 02:20
Im calling mine "Operation: Freedom Sting (or Ring)"

I already have a tagline for it: "Freedom Rings Motherhumper, are ya' going to take the call?"

*dies*

That's just about perfect.
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 02:21
Im calling mine "Operation: Freedom Sting (or Ring)"

I already have a tagline for it: "Freedom Rings Motherhumper, are ya' going to take the call?"

motherf---er is funnier
North Calaveras
26-03-2007, 02:21
I want to engage in this war i will side with the North. can someone send me a message on what i should do.
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 02:21
*dies*

That's just about perfect.

damn, i can't do a good motto because i am the press
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 02:30
damn, i can't do a good motto because i am the press

You can, just for the lulz :p
Osteia
26-03-2007, 02:49
LOl @ "Freedom Rings Motherhumper, are ya' going to take the call?"

Ahhh, this Rp should be funn :) **Muahahahahaaa** GO COMMIES!
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 02:54
I have the whole military section of the factbook....I will work on the country part of it now...How is the communist factbook going?
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 03:01
You can, just for the lulz :p

how's this

This is NBBC, the New Brittonian Broadcasting Corporation: Exaggerating the facts for your entertainment since 1947
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:01
how's this

This is NBBC, the New Brittonian Broadcasting Corporation: Exaggerating the facts for your entertainment since 1947

I really laughed at that! i like it...
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 03:06
I have the whole military section of the factbook....I will work on the country part of it now...How is the communist factbook going?

I dont know, you need to ask Corbournne, and he needs to do it fast, or else we'll just replace him.
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:10
I dont know, you need to ask Corbournne, and he needs to do it fast, or else we'll just replace him.


I hear that!! i egar to get this rolling! baaaaahahaha :)
Evil Gopher Eaters
26-03-2007, 03:12
Didn't the Soviet's copy some of their designs off of the Americans? (B52 Bomber?)

Not the 52, they completely jacked the B-29 piece by piece. The Soviet workers even replicated bullet holes on the US planes they had.

If you guys want a map I can make one.

Here is one I made for my primary nation.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q284/stens88/NS/mapoluchamos.jpg
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 03:16
I think the motto for my operation will be the chorus from this song:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fS6Vy1TeKKk

...it should help prevent venereal diseases...
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:16
Not the 52, they completely jacked the B-29 piece by piece. The Soviet workers even replicated bullet holes on the US planes they had.

If you guys want a map I can make one.

Here is one I made for my primary nation.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q284/stens88/NS/mapoluchamos.jpg

Thats an awesome map!!! ^^^^^ Can you make my nations map if i TG u some details?

ANd LOL at the song..... thats comical,
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:20
I think the motto for my operation will be the chorus from this song:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fS6Vy1TeKKk

...it should help prevent venereal diseases...

Hehehe...

**Mama san voice**

"Heeeey G.I....i make you feel sooo gooood, piick me G IIII! Mama san take care of you! LOL
Kanami
26-03-2007, 03:22
Cool you can sign up as media? Far out I would like to be a media coorepspondent. I certianly can't vouch for any side in combat.
Evil Gopher Eaters
26-03-2007, 03:24
Thats an awesome map!!! ^^^^^ Can you make my nations map if i TG u some details?

ANd LOL at the song..... thats comical,

Love to, I'll make a purely political one too few of charge :D

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q284/stens88/NS/mapoluchamospolitical.jpg
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 03:24
Not the 52, they completely jacked
If you guys want a map I can make one.

Here is one I made for my primary nation.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q284/stens88/NS/mapoluchamos.jpg
Niiice, but:
Is this the north or south?
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:25
Niiice, but:
Is this the north or south?

Neither....it's his own nation.....
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 03:25
Cool you can sign up as media? Far out I would like to be a media coorepspondent. I certianly can't vouch for any side in combat.

uhhh. . . . i called it first. Unless there can be more than one, i dunno
Ghost Tigers Rise
26-03-2007, 03:25
Niiice, but:
Is this the north or south?

Neither, that's his country as a political map.
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 03:25
uhhh. . . . i called it first. Unless there can be more than one, i dunno

There is no official media, there can be more than one.
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 03:27
Cool you can sign up as media? Far out I would like to be a media coorepspondent. I certianly can't vouch for any side in combat.

Sure thing, I'll sign you up.
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 03:30
Sure thing, I'll sign you up.

hey, did you sign me up?
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 03:34
hey, did you sign me up?

I already did.
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 03:37
I already did.

when's this RP gonna start
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:37
when's this RP gonna start

We don't got a commie factbook yet...or..any for that matter i don't think?
New Brittonia
26-03-2007, 03:40
We don't got a commie factbook yet...or..any for that matter i don't think?

Do I need a factbook?
Osteia
26-03-2007, 03:50
Love to, I'll make a purely political one too few of charge :D

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q284/stens88/NS/mapoluchamospolitical.jpg

Wicked...as for the factbook...im not sure? i think?
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-03-2007, 03:55
Can I play as a single soldier? I kinda like those ones better. Maybe a team of Mercs are in the area to provide counter insurgency assistance to the gov or something?
Osteia
26-03-2007, 04:42
^^^^^ that sounds cool..how many mercs?...oh and i like those kinda Rp's too...
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-03-2007, 05:05
^^^^^ that sounds cool..how many mercs?...oh and i like those kinda Rp's too...

I'm thinking like maybe a twelve man squad.
Osteia
26-03-2007, 05:05
I'm thinking like maybe a twelve man squad.

Thats cool!
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-03-2007, 05:33
Thats cool!

Yep. So when do you think this will go up? Within the week?
SilentScope001
26-03-2007, 06:26
Just so you know, I am still playing, I'm just waiting for the thread to go up before I post in it.
Osteia
26-03-2007, 06:33
In responce to Blackhelm..it should be up soon...we are waiting on factbooks..i think..n e ways..
Osteia
26-03-2007, 19:58
Bump!
Ebedron
26-03-2007, 20:12
ill be capitalist supporter
Osteia
26-03-2007, 20:15
Good, we are still pickin up people! :)
Ebedron
26-03-2007, 20:21
just better hope it starts soon, or youll stop your growth
SilentScope001
26-03-2007, 20:23
What I am really interested is this: How the war will end. I wouldn't be suprised if NS nations start throwing nukes and ending the itty bitty Vietnam--style war.
Adamta
26-03-2007, 20:32
I will support capitalist
KaNgwane
26-03-2007, 20:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by KaNgwane
KaNgwane will supply men, advisers, technology, and supplies to the Communists.

Are you going to be active?


KaNgwane will be fully active in supplying weaponry etc. and also in combatting the Capitalist South. In other words, yes...very...
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 22:09
I will support capitalist

Yes, I'll add you

By the way, everyone:

WE NEED A NEW NORTH GOVERMENT!
SilentScope001
26-03-2007, 22:11
To get this show on the road, I'll RP as the new North government, and kick SilentScope001 out as the Commie supporter. SiletnScope001 will remain netural and totally peacenik-y.

Is a factbook already ready, or do I have to make one up? Also, I assume that there is only one puppet nation for the war, right?
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 22:15
To get this show on the road, I'll RP as the new North government, and kick SilentScope001 out as the Commie supporter. SiletnScope001 will remain netural and totally peacenik-y.

Is a factbook already ready, or do I have to make one up? Also, I assume that there is only one puppet nation for the war, right?

You have to make the North Factbook.

As for a map, this will do:

http://www.asianinfo.org/asianinfo/countries_map/map-picture/vietnam_pol92.jpg
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 22:15
TWSP, am I making my country's facts based on the South Vietnamese government?
The World Soviet Party
26-03-2007, 22:17
TWSP, am I making my country's facts based on the South Vietnamese government?

As you wish, just keep population to normal RL standards, like, Im only allowing Supporting Nations to RP their pops at a maximum of 220 Million.

I myself will RP TWSP as if it had 180 million people.
Maldorians
26-03-2007, 22:20
As you wish, just keep population to normal RL standards, like, Im only allowing Supporting Nations to RP their pops at a maximum of 220 Million.

I myself will RP TWSP as if it had 180 million people.

Got it...
Tocrowkia
27-03-2007, 02:26
As you wish, just keep population to normal RL standards, like, Im only allowing Supporting Nations to RP their pops at a maximum of 220 Million.

I myself will RP TWSP as if it had 180 million people.

Eh. That won't work for me...
New Brittonia
27-03-2007, 02:37
Hey, will there be a pre-war period or will we just jump into war because I could interview politicians and generals for the pre stages with the escalation and mobilization
The World Soviet Party
27-03-2007, 16:44
Hey, will there be a pre-war period or will we just jump into war because I could interview politicians and generals for the pre stages with the escalation and mobilization

We can have a small pre-war stage with politicians fightinf for or against going to war, it would give me a nice time to bash some hippies and send them to reeducation camps =p
Osteia
27-03-2007, 18:39
Errr...this gotta start .. :( ... meh..all iin good time..
KaNgwane
27-03-2007, 18:52
Alrighty then...

"Greetings Comrade General Bhekithemba!" the aide said as General Bhekithemba surveyed the Fourth Mechanised Rifle Division before they prepared to fly out to the war zone.

Bhekithemba was a young man of 27 and had risen quickly through the ranks, he was second-in-command of SE Asia Operations for Operation Audacious Intrusion.

Along with the Fourth Mechanised Rifle Division, the KaNgwane Expeditionairy Force (KEF) would also said out Fifth Battalion, Seventh Squadron - the Airforce's elite ground unit - meant to pacifiy the resistance the Capitalist had behind the lines. Altogether, the KEF numbered 7,000 men, with ten escorting war ships including the pride of the fleet Prince Constantijn - a fifty-thousand tonne battle ship.
Tocrowkia
27-03-2007, 19:17
No offense to anyone, but this RP is going in a direction I do not appreciate. So, I quit. Good luck everyone.
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 21:04
No offense to anyone, but this RP is going in a direction I do not appreciate. So, I quit. Good luck everyone.

NO NO NO NO NO....Damn! Are you kidding me!
The World Soviet Party
27-03-2007, 21:40
Alrighty then...

"Greetings Comrade General Bhekithemba!" the aide said as General Bhekithemba surveyed the Fourth Mechanised Rifle Division before they prepared to fly out to the war zone.

Bhekithemba was a young man of 27 and had risen quickly through the ranks, he was second-in-command of SE Asia Operations for Operation Audacious Intrusion.

Along with the Fourth Mechanised Rifle Division, the KaNgwane Expeditionairy Force (KEF) would also said out Fifth Battalion, Seventh Squadron - the Airforce's elite ground unit - meant to pacifiy the resistance the Capitalist had behind the lines. Altogether, the KEF numbered 7,000 men, with ten escorting war ships including the pride of the fleet Prince Constantijn - a fifty-thousand tonne battle ship.

Errr... this is an OOC thread, and we havent started the RP yet.

No offense to anyone, but this RP is going in a direction I do not appreciate. So, I quit. Good luck everyone.

As you wish.
North Calaveras
27-03-2007, 21:48
can the peoples republic of NC join the war.
North Calaveras
27-03-2007, 21:49
bever mind i dont want to play
SilentScope001
27-03-2007, 22:33
I'm going to have to agree with Toc on this issue, and hereby withdraws as well. Anyone wanting to use the Commie side still use the factbook I made thought.

I'll see if there can be a better way to RP a vietnam-style war...
Dragonicale
27-03-2007, 22:42
Wow a thread that had a great start collapses after the first day, imagine that XD. Not saying it is though.
The World Soviet Party
27-03-2007, 22:42
*Sigh*
Ebedron
28-03-2007, 00:53
dude. just start the rp or itll die. If you really need someone, keep recruiting and just rp it till someone steps in.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-03-2007, 01:05
I made my factbook.
The World Soviet Party
28-03-2007, 01:09
I made my factbook.

We need a new North.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-03-2007, 01:10
We need a new North.

What happened to SniperScope?
The World Soviet Party
28-03-2007, 01:11
What happened to SniperScope?

He left when Toc left.
Osteia
28-03-2007, 01:27
Damn.....thats all i have to say is ...damn..lol
Maldorians
28-03-2007, 01:28
Damn.....thats all i have to say is ...damn..lol

Are you NS Reallydrunk? I am not sure, though...
Ghost Tigers Rise
28-03-2007, 01:38
He left when Toc left.

We might as well kill this RP. It was your's and Toc's idea, if she's gone, what's the point?
Osteia
28-03-2007, 01:46
Are you NS Reallydrunk? I am not sure, though...

Yup, i am NS reallydrunk.....that nations gone though... :(
Ebedron
28-03-2007, 01:49
dude. seriously, just start the rp. Someone can cover the state until someone wants it
Maldorians
28-03-2007, 01:49
Yup, i am NS reallydrunk.....that nations gone though... :(

What happened to it?
Dragonicale
28-03-2007, 01:58
Start it or i leave XD
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-03-2007, 02:00
TWSP, you're commie, take over control of the north.
The World Soviet Party
28-03-2007, 02:00
We might as well kill this RP. It was your's and Toc's idea, if she's gone, what's the point?

I dunno, Im reluctant to do so.

dude. seriously, just start the rp. Someone can cover the state until someone wants it

Who do you suggest?
Osteia
28-03-2007, 02:22
What happened to it?

I dunno? it's just......gone? lol
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-03-2007, 02:39
I think you should do it TWSP
Ebedron
28-03-2007, 11:34
fine. i dont like communism but whatever, to get this thing going ill be the Commie gov, atleast until we get someone new. all i need is factbook and we can start

but since ill be going on vaca next week and MAY not have internet access
Oslea
29-03-2007, 00:09
Did this die/ is dying, after reading over the other posts up there?

If it is then that sucks... I was really looking forward to participating =/
Krendakov
29-03-2007, 16:46
I could try doing either the north or capitalist supporter (It was the Kingdom of Krendakov back then). Oh, and nice to see the population limit thing TWSP, I like it.
The World Soviet Party
29-03-2007, 16:58
I could try doing either the north or capitalist supporter (It was the Kingdom of Krendakov back then). Oh, and nice to see the population limit thing TWSP, I like it.

You can do North, we need a north, are you up for it?
Krendakov
29-03-2007, 17:02
Can you be on msn, there are some things I would like to discuss with you...
The World Soviet Party
29-03-2007, 17:06
Can you be on msn, there are some things I would like to discuss with you...

Not as of the moment, because I gotta leave pretty soon, but I'll be back in about 3,3333... hours.
Ebedron
29-03-2007, 19:33
well than this things probably dead. why set it up if u were leaving?
Ebedron
31-03-2007, 19:18
is anyone still interested? if so, ill make the thread and start it