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*Your emissary brings you a letter and as he is disbanded from sight you read the following*

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To: All Nations
From: Lady Hippadameia of Aliquantus

Recently illegal immigration has reached a new low, it seems our draconian boarder control has served its purpose. However, we are now short of human murderee's to train our soldiers against. It is due to this that Aliquantus is now looking worldwide for trading partner to receive a monthly shipment of chattel slaves.

Should your nation agree to this trade please inform us, we will only accept them if they are aged between fifteen and fifty, come with clothing and are not restricted by disability. Gender is not an issue as practically all of our scientifically manipulated soldiers are female.

We hope our offer will receive your acceptance.

Signed,
Hippadameia
Lady Hippadameia - Trade and Economy Minister.

OOC:Trade follow up to the moraly incorect sale of soldiers http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521104 .

Dear Lady Hippadameia,
My name is Daffyd Williams, law enforcment advisor to His Majesty King Owain of Llanoran. His Majesty has taken great interest in your bulletin regarding your urgent requirment of slaves. The King and his advisors have been pressured into reducing the amount of political prisoners we execute. We do not want those who escape exection to remain in our great Kingdom. Your request means that all of our opponents can be disposed by means of exportation. Afterall, what happens to these individuals away from our borders is not His Majesty's concern. Perhaps we could come to some agreement. I look foraward to hearing from you.

Regards
Daffyd Williams - His Majesty's Law Enforcment Advisor

Let it be known that the moment a nation agrees to supply your disgusting regime with human slaves, the purchase will be voided with force. We helped to destroy the Strator slaving ring, and we are not about to sit back while it goes on here as well.

OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520934. Id check this out.

To The Government Of Mcpsychoville,
It would be foolish of us to think that our developing nation could possibly compete with yours in military combat. That said, your threat is an attack on Llanoran's sovreignty. His Majesty wishes to make it clear that we will pursue our own interests without needless foreign moralistic interference. If the Kingdom of Llanoran can come to a trade agreement with the government of Aliquantas, it will be our fullest intention to fulfil any terms of such an agreement. An unprovoked attack on any citizens of Llanoran or Aliquantas could well lead you into international hot water.

Regards
Rhys Jones - His Majesty's Foreign Relations Advisor

TO: The Governments of Aliquantus and Llanoran
FROM: The Grand Duchy of Aunesia

The Grand Duchy of Aunesia has read the communications between yourselves with great dismay. Slavery is an abhorrent practice which has no place in the world. I therefore urge you in the strongest terms to reconsider both your request to purchase, and offer to sell slaves; and your very participance in the slave trade.

I would also strongly urge you to attend the Pearce international anti-slavery summit, currently being held within the Dominion of Vetaka, where you may be able to benefit from economic and developmental assistance programmes in return for your binding agreement to end the practice of slavery within your nation.

I condemn the language used by the Government of McPsychoville, but completely understand his sentiments and attitude. It is, however, my belief that you must first be offered the oppurtunity to reconsider your actions and demonstrate your resolve and commitment to respecting the dignity of human persons.

The Grand Duchy would like to restate its profound belief in Human Rights for all persons and will continue to refuse to recognise the status of enslaved persons as property. I resolve to continue to monitor the slave trade within your nations closely.

Signed,

Andrew Short
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
The Grand Duchy of Aunesia

The Grand Republic of Adamta is disgusted at the nations of Llanoran and Aliquantus. Slavery is never the right thing to do, there are other means to make money and train forces. Sanctions will be placed on both your nations

The Government Of Mcpsychoville has the full support of the Adamtain Government.

Signed,
Chief of State,
Bill Shea

Chief of Foreign Affairs,
Jeff Goldblom

The republic of Heggiedom 2

The Heggie of Heggies is willing to donate all of the slaves in our country to the buyer, free of charge and we will provide the shipping cost.

If you chose to agree we will help defend you against any threat, even if it leads to our own destruction.

SIC: High Mediator Manuel Lodz shook his head in disgust. This action from the apparentally phsyicall laconic but nevertheless perfectly fit man served only to shake his long black hair into his eyes. With a snort of annoyance he brushed it back from his eyes, and stood up.

He had called a meeting of the Second and Third Rings (the parts of the government that dealt with foreign affairs and the Armed Forces, respectively) as soon as he recieved the report.

"You'll all have read the memos by now, I expect," he said, and paused to allow everyone to nod. "Good," he said, supressing a sigh of relief. These vital members of the government did not get their positions by being as easygoing as many of their countrymen, but sometimes this faact seemed to be forgotten. "So, what are our options?"

"We don't have the forces for a full scale invasion, although we could lend a hand if anyone else were to attack," said General Riiz, who never missed an opportunity to try and convince Lodz of the need for more military spending. "And frankly, we don't have the intelligence to attempt a regime change. We could attempt a naval/air blockade, but that's also likely to fail if they have any trading partneres larger than themselves. Using submarines to sink any incoming ships, on the other hand,"

"Is not an option," interrupted Lodz, "We'd just be killing off the slaves we're trying to save. Diplomatic options?"

"Very few without the threat of military force, I'm afraid," said Chairwoman Ivanova. "There's just too many nations who will trade with anyone for an embargo to have much effect, and the fact that they're a slave trading nation would indicate they don't give a damn for international opinion." Lodz swore under his breath. It was in situations like this that he seriously entertained the notion of throwing his considerable, if not clinching, support behind the militarists. With the continuing rise of computerization, it would not necessarily require a massive expansion of combat ready soldiers.

"Letters of Marque," said Riiz, who’s thoughts had apparently been running in a rather different direction. "That's it! We take money from the Foreign Aid budget, and offer a reward for any slave ship taken, in regards to the number of slaves freed. Even if they eventually start using large military escorts, it will increase the operational costs so much, continuing to purchase or sell slaves will simply by uneconomic.”

“Brilliant,” said Lodz, with unfeigned appreciation. Despite his dogmatic approach to the subject of military spending, and his sometimes-frightening ruthlessness, Riiz had a talent for thinking of out of the box solutions. “I’ll put it to a vote immediately.”
***
Moantha had never been big on political parties. Apart from the single seat held by the Military Party, and the two seats held by the Isolation Party, the fifty-seat senate held no political affiliation. The bill, hastily but carefully written by Lodz would not pass due to party politics, but rather on its merits. And pass it did, with a Ninety-six percent majority, the sole votes against coming from the increasingly predictable Isolation Party members.
***
Moanthan Declaration

By a vote of forty-eight to two, the Moanthan senate has hereby authorized the following statement. As slavery is an insult to all free peoples, and a dire threat to the freedom of many individuals, The Governing Body of Moantha hereby offers a reward, to be determined on a case by case basis, to the crew and/or owner of any ship which acts succesfully to free those whom are enslaved, or those who are being transported to slavery. The reward, once claims have been suitably verified, will be no less than One Million US Dollars.

High Mediator Manuel Lodz

Cosigned by

Chairman Harold Stern
Chairman Henry Johnson
Chairwoman Susan Ivanova

To The Government Of Mcpsychoville,
It would be foolish of us to think that our developing nation could possibly compete with yours in military combat. That said, your threat is an attack on Llanoran's sovreignty. His Majesty wishes to make it clear that we will pursue our own interests without needless foreign moralistic interference. If the Kingdom of Llanoran can come to a trade agreement with the government of Aliquantas, it will be our fullest intention to fulfil any terms of such an agreement. An unprovoked attack on any citizens of Llanoran or Aliquantas could well lead you into international hot water.

Regards
Rhys Jones - His Majesty's Foreign Relations Advisor

Do you think we care what other nations think of us? The minute you attempt to ship these slaves between your two nations, you will pay the sizable penalty of it. The same warning goes to Heggiedom as well.

we aren't selling we are giving

Communicae to The Queedom of Aliquantus and all of her allied nations.

The Allied States of Penoshia in accordance with the wishes of the Knight-Chancellor and the ruling party. And in accordance with our treaty with the UN special duty division NERV, hereby issue this statement.

The act of slavery in this day in age is a disgusting and unholy practice and those who wish to involve themselves in this trade will be punished. Therefore, until the Queendom of Aliquantus renounces her attempt at slave trade, the Allied States of Penoshia no longer recoginizes the soverngty of The Queendom of Aliquantus.
We wish also to applaud the actions of the government of McPsychoville in leading the world against the dispicable act of slavery. We also lend our support to McPsychoville by mobilizing our 1st carrier fleet led by our flagship the PNS Lakfakalle.
We plead the Queendom to reconsider these options and wish for a peaceful resolution to this incident.

Knight-Judge James Harrison
Speaker for the Chancellors estate
on behalf of
Knight-Chancellor Ken Miller
Leader of Parliment/Commander in Chief/Commander of local NERV Forces

To All Nations Concerned,
Before you benevolant bunch start firing up your military machines i must make it clear that an agreement is yet to be reached between us and The Queendom Of Aliquantas. If such an agreement were to be reached, then your threats of freeing the slaves mean nothing to us. As long as our political prisoners are gone from our land, we do not care.

I must also stress that slavery does not exist within our land. We are merely offering to export prisoners to another country. If they wish to make them their slaves, then that is not our problem.

Regards
Rhys Jones - His Majesty's Foreign Relations Advisor

we aren't selling we are giving

If you say that to a McPsychovillan Soldier you better have an escort, a bulletproof vest, and about 20 miles between the two of you if you want to live.

The nation is willing to sell some of our prisoner slaves. These are slaves who have commited horrible and unjust crimes and are either serving life in prison or are on death row. We would be willing to sell you some of these prisoners for a price.

James von Strangaild, High Leader and Lord Governer of Zackaroth.

Ok we won't give them up for slavery, we will run gentic experiments on them! MUWHAHAHAHAHA!

p.s. we have super soliders, through our advances in gentics.
p.p.s we stil support slavery, face our army of gentic mutation
p.p.p.s we will then send them off for slavery as a donation to Aliquantus

Ok we won't give them up for slavery, we will run gentic experiments on them! MUWHAHAHAHAHA!

p.s. we have super soliders, through our advances in gentics

Personal Correspondence from Rupert Bull:

To Whom it May Concern in the Heggiedom:

Thank you, sir or madam who is responsible for the above statement. You have confirmed several things that I had previously suspected, but been unable to be certain of.

First, your nation is likely a complete hellhole. Second, your nation, or yourself, is either idiotic, or simply illiterate, as gentics is not a word, let alone a subject, advances in which would allow the creation of supersoldiers. I shall not be featuring your nation in a column, as I had previously intended, in order to prevent mass suicide when my readers realize how much stupidity there is in this world.

Your Truly,

Rupert Bull

Ok we won't give them up for slavery, we will run gentic experiments on them! MUWHAHAHAHAHA!

p.s. we have super soliders, through our advances in gentics.
p.p.s we stil support slavery, face our army of gentic mutation
p.p.p.s we will then send them off for slavery as a donation to Aliquantus


Zackaroth would like to point out that all soilders, super or normal, all evaporate nicely when hit by a nuke. Have a nice day.

James von Strangaild.

Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: All Nations currently concerned with Slavery
From: The Dominion of Vetaka office of the President

Subject: Slavery

The Dominion of Vetaka calls for international calm upon the Subject of Slavery. Vetaka is currently leading to way in the peaceful and diplomatic fight against Slavery on the international scene. As I write this communication to I am currently listerning to a key note speaker within the Vetakan Hosted conference against Slavery. The Dominion of Vetaka is on the eve of launching a global treaty and protocal to pave the way in a structured, organized, moral and above all a diplomatic fight against Slavery.

Their is a peaceful and moral approach to Slavery. We call upon the worlds nations whom are against Slavery to either attend the Conference or join the Live Webcast of the Conference. If enough nations join this peaceful alternative then the battle is as good as won.

Yours Lord-Govenor & President of The Dominion of Vetaka Roxanne Wright


OOC: Pleases view and support the Peace International Anti-Slavery Conference even if you haven't attended the Conference is been broadcast on a Live Web Feed to anybody and you can make your points heard just post within the thread and quote "Live Webchat Delegate........"

After looking over your proposal, I am willing to send sentenced criminals to ur country in exchange for trade rights to boost my economy. I realise that you have a sparwling army and your need to keep it this way is dire. I hope you will get back to me with your answers?
Yours sincerly,
Alexander, Leader and God emporer of Uzbekilamanitonz!

OOC: Haggiedom is ignored. Also, I suspect a large number of puppet nations are participating here.

Eralineta supports the nations of Llanoran and Aliquantus on divine sovereignity of their nations giving them supreme right in this matter. Eralineta papers also denouce the actions of Aunesia and Vetaka for interferring in their national matters.

Eralineta supports the nations of Llanoran and Aliquantus on divine sovereignity of their nations giving them supreme right in this matter. Eralineta papers also denouce the actions of Aunesia and Vetaka for interferring in their national matters.

OOC: But say nothing about my essentially making an open declaration that we'll reward attacks on their shipping?

Oh. sorry. Your included, but its international waters and we do not need to answer that as it will be outside jurisdiction of government. So ICLY we didn't comment as to an assumed understanding.

OOC: Eralineta, I would suggest you read the entire thread through again thoroughly. Aunesia and Vetaka are the two nations opposing slavery who have done the least to interfere.

SIC: High Mediator Manuel Lodz shook his head in disgust. This action from the apparentally phsyicall laconic but nevertheless perfectly fit man served only to shake his long black hair into his eyes. With a snort of annoyance he brushed it back from his eyes, and stood up.

He had called a meeting of the Second and Third Rings (the parts of the government that dealt with foreign affairs and the Armed Forces, respectively) as soon as he recieved the report.

"You'll all have read the memos by now, I expect," he said, and paused to allow everyone to nod. "Good," he said, supressing a sigh of relief. These vital members of the government did not get their positions by being as easygoing as many of their countrymen, but sometimes this faact seemed to be forgotten. "So, what are our options?"

"We don't have the forces for a full scale invasion, although we could lend a hand if anyone else were to attack," said General Riiz, who never missed an opportunity to try and convince Lodz of the need for more military spending. "And frankly, we don't have the intelligence to attempt a regime change. We could attempt a naval/air blockade, but that's also likely to fail if they have any trading partneres larger than themselves. Using submarines to sink any incoming ships, on the other hand,"

"Is not an option," interrupted Lodz, "We'd just be killing off the slaves we're trying to save. Diplomatic options?"

"Very few without the threat of military force, I'm afraid," said Chairwoman Ivanova. "There's just too many nations who will trade with anyone for an embargo to have much effect, and the fact that they're a slave trading nation would indicate they don't give a damn for international opinion." Lodz swore under his breath. It was in situations like this that he seriously entertained the notion of throwing his considerable, if not clinching, support behind the militarists. With the continuing rise of computerization, it would not necessarily require a massive expansion of combat ready soldiers.

"Letters of Marque," said Riiz, who’s thoughts had apparently been running in a rather different direction. "That's it! We take money from the Foreign Aid budget, and offer a reward for any slave ship taken, in regards to the number of slaves freed. Even if they eventually start using large military escorts, it will increase the operational costs so much, continuing to purchase or sell slaves will simply by uneconomic.”

“Brilliant,” said Lodz, with unfeigned appreciation. Despite his dogmatic approach to the subject of military spending, and his sometimes-frightening ruthlessness, Riiz had a talent for thinking of out of the box solutions. “I’ll put it to a vote immediately.”
***
Moantha had never been big on political parties. Apart from the single seat held by the Military Party, and the two seats held by the Isolation Party, the fifty-seat senate held no political affiliation. The bill, hastily but carefully written by Lodz would not pass due to party politics, but rather on its merits. And pass it did, with a Ninety-six percent majority, the sole votes against coming from the increasingly predictable Isolation Party members.
***
Moanthan Declaration

By a vote of forty-eight to two, the Moanthan senate has hereby authorized the following statement. As slavery is an insult to all free peoples, and a dire threat to the freedom of many individuals, The Governing Body of Moantha hereby offers a reward, to be determined on a case by case basis, to the crew and/or owner of any ship which acts succesfully to free those whom are enslaved, or those who are being transported to slavery. The reward, once claims have been suitably verified, will be no less than One Million US Dollars.

High Mediator Manuel Lodz

Cosigned by

Chairman Harold Stern
Chairman Henry Johnson
Chairwoman Susan Ivanova

We would like to know if this inculdes us. Our slaves are not real slaves per say but people who have done something terrible and thus been stripped of there freedom.

James von Strangaild, High Leader of Zackaroth.

OOC: Eralineta, I would suggest you read the entire thread through again thoroughly. Aunesia and Vetaka are the two nations opposing slavery who have done the least to interfere.

It was not an SIC. So I have to take this as you are making this public. We are denoucing you for asserting your political opinion and trying to push another country which as sovereign right to its own people and dealings. That is why we are denoucing you.

Aunesia was against it.
Heggiedom was an idiot and is being ignored for a complete lack of RP and IC action that makes sense.
Llanoran is for it. We've made an IC deal in the past (read: Another thread)
McPsychoville was making a statement OOC, not IC and was ignored. Though the attempt to do IC was made it was not followed through successfully (as of yet)
Moantha was SIC.
Penoshia is probably a created puppet for this by McPsychoville or is just a poor RPer and by responding as such to a non IC statement has been ignored.
Silver Star HQ made a statement OOC, not IC and was ignored.
Uzbekilamaniatonz was again using criminals and was outside of it.
Vetaka was against it.
Zackaroth was outside the slave deal directly.

Making you four the only relivant ones to deal with for me on an IC level. Zackaroth teeters, but may be added in.

OOC: For the record, my declaration of the reward wasn't SIC, just the meeting that preceded it.

From: The Holy Emporor of The Holy Nation of Xiscapia
To: All nations who endorse/premote/accept/or hold slaves or slavery.
We here at the Brotherhood of EVIL oppose slavery. If the deal goes though, you shall have the combined power of 45+ nations plus others previously mentioned to fight. We strongly urge you to not import/export slaves or there will be war.
Good day to you,
The Supreme Emporor of Xiscapia,
Foxfire

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From: The Holy Emporor of The Holy Nation of Xiscapia
To: All nations who endorse/premote/accept/or hold slaves or slavery.
We here at the Brotherhood of EVIL oppose slavery. If the deal goes though, you shall have the combined power of 45+ nations plus others previously mentioned to fight. We strongly urge you to not import/export slaves or there will be war.
Good day to you,
The Supreme Emporor of Xiscapia,
Foxfire

OOC: A deal already has gone through in this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12449864#post12449864

IC:

Telegram to Unnamed Emperor of Xiscapia
From: Emperor Black

Brotherhood of EVIL? Holy Empire. I do not recognize or look favorably upon your nation, perhaps you should put your thumb in your mouth.

*here was a dirty picture of Emperor Black giving you the bird. Entitled: Bite me.*

Love, Emperor (as black as night itself) Black.

OOC: Aunesia and Vetaka along with a variety of other nations are taking Diplomatic and Peaceful steps to fight Slavery via the Pearce Conference. Im not going to say you denoucing is unjust because everybody has the right to become involved however I will say I belive it is ill informed. You are denouncing nations whom are seeking Diplomatic and Ecomomic means to fight slavery. Slavery is a barbaric way of making money furthermore it doesnt really make that much money because your selling a product that at the end of the day is limited in number. Their is only so many prisoners and only so much of population you can loose before you are in the position of having to buy back slaves.

ENCRYPTED OOC: Don't godmode and pretend you can decrypt it, yeah?
Olberman & Drall Unlimited
O&D Unlimited is interested in this - Imperial Whyatican law does not specifically prohibit the slave trade, and we have been dealing in this trade for several years. We can offer five thousand men from a Whyatican colony near Toopoxia, mostly vagrants and homeless caught wandering the streets. After the first shipment, our operations will be limited to 1,500 per month after that, so as to not raise the ire of any major powers in the region. We can offer an average price of $17,500 per unit, making the first shipment cost approximately 87 million standard dollars. Secrecy must be maintained, understand. We will deny these shipments take place if asked.

All nations accept the price of L1 per slave; if you wish to raise the cost of the slaves please barter accordingly. Remember, they are worthless and are only going to either bleed to death or drown, thus they should remain cheap.

*On the international stage Hippadameia responds to nations attempting to block the trade*

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To: Relevant Nations
From: Lady Hippadameia of Aliquantus

After reading in disgust of your opposition to a private trade agreement. I have informed the Queen and await her formal reaction. Any military intervention from your nations against either our nation or our trading partners will be repelled with force. I am sure you know of our soldiers as other national leaders with the same poor acumen and jealousy that you possess are opposed to them.

We will leave you to your hysteria induced trepidation and hopefully you will leave us to our trade.

Signed,
Hippadameia
Lady Hippadameia - Trade and Economy Minister.

Dear Lady Hippadameia,
Payment is not necessary for our shipments of slaves as our ultimate motive is emptying our prisons by entering trade agreements with varioius nations. We would be more than happy to provide you with a monthly supply of slaves. His Majesty wishes to know how many slaves you require.

Kind Regards
Gareth Hughes - His Majesty's Trade Advisor

We will need two thousand (2000) per Battalion, so that will be forty eight thousand (48000) for our ground forces and we will take any more you have for our navy.
Thank you for recommending no payment, it is a kind offer. I have made arrangements with the military and the stew ship HMS Shag at Sea and the hospital ship HMS Ever Station are en route to receive the slaves.
Signed,
Hippadameia
Lady Hippadameia - Trade and Economy Minister.

OOC: If you accept future tech.
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Aliquantus,
Rose Labor Inc. would like to offer you a contract for servants. We can provide as many as you need. Our products come either genetically engineered for certain careers and tasks, or unengineered. We are sure a contract can be met.
-Rose Labor Inc.

Dear Lady Hippadameia,
Payment is not necessary for our shipments of slaves as our ultimate motive is emptying our prisons by entering trade agreements with varioius nations. We would be more than happy to provide you with a monthly supply of slaves. His Majesty wishes to know how many slaves you require.

Kind Regards
Gareth Hughes - His Majesty's Trade Advisor

If your overriding motive is simply to clear out your prisons, might I suggest that you ship them to us? They can serve out the remainder of their sentences - or more, if their crimes deem it - in one of our prisons and save our guards from redundancy. It'd certainly make more sense than bringing down the ire of nations working to destroy the slave trade unnecessarily.

Which brings us to the message of Aliquantus. Considering that these slaves are to be forced to do battle for a nation not their own, this crime takes on a new and more vile nature. If the slaves will indeed be shipped to your nation, we will simply bomb them and be done with it - the slaves die quickly, rather than being worked to exhaustion or turned into meat shields for naturalised Aliquantian soldiers, and we break a link in this chain.

If your overriding motive is simply to clear out your prisons, might I suggest that you ship them to us? They can serve out the remainder of their sentences - or more, if their crimes deem it - in one of our prisons and save our guards from redundancy. It'd certainly make more sense than bringing down the ire of nations working to destroy the slave trade unnecessarily.

Which brings us to the message of Aliquantus. Considering that these slaves are to be forced to do battle for a nation not their own, this crime takes on a new and more vile nature. If the slaves will indeed be shipped to your nation, we will simply bomb them and be done with it - the slaves die quickly, rather than being worked to exhaustion or turned into meat shields for naturalised Aliquantian soldiers, and we break a link in this chain.
OOC:
You have no IC information of this post and he has no IC information of this post. It was a direct telegram to Aliquantus from Llanoran stop godmodding your ability to intercept and do poor RP to make up for a lack of actual action towards a nation and make an actual decent post for once. We WOULD condemn your actions if you stopped posting OOC. Make a telegram, do something in character!

[You're criticising me? Think about it - this is a hot topic. We are a very sizable nation, one of high technology. Considering the manpower we're spending to getting rid of the slavery problem, I don't think it's too unrealistic to imagine that our computer boys CAN decode the transmissions. If you want in-character, I'm perfectly happy to send a unit or two to attack you, but then I imagine that's not what you particularly want. For reference, when something is in square brackets, it is OOC for me. Just because I haven't written "To: Nation X, nation Y...From: McPsychoville" doesn't mean it's OOC. Now think - do you want me to send men to your shores? I'm not exactly a fan of military roleplaying with people who I don't know anything about because the chances of them saying "lol our guys killed your guys" is significantly higher.]

[You're criticising me? Think about it - this is a hot topic. We are a very sizable nation, one of high technology. Considering the manpower we're spending to getting rid of the slavery problem, I don't think it's too unrealistic to imagine that our computer boys CAN decode the transmissions. If you want in-character, I'm perfectly happy to send a unit or two to attack you, but then I imagine that's not what you particularly want. For reference, when something is in square brackets, it is OOC for me. Just because I haven't written "To: Nation X, nation Y...From: McPsychoville" doesn't mean it's OOC. Now think - do you want me to send men to your shores? I'm not exactly a fan of military roleplaying with people who I don't know anything about because the chances of them saying "lol our guys killed your guys" is significantly higher.]

OOC:Since when can you decrypt a telegram between two people that did not go over the internet and even if he says it did, you are godmodding your ability and you have no right to do that. We are not even on your radar in the first place. Keep that in mind. You have to do an IC response to an IC post and you can't godmod it. You did not decrypt the message sent, you know nothing about our nation and you have no idea what happened. Now be realistic and do an IC response to maybe.. hearing a rumor. And MAKE IT IC. I'm tired of your OOC responses and generalizations. You best also be sure that you don't threaten us or you might wind up with an alliance or something on you. You do not control us, you know nothing about us. Real nations would not be so quick to threaten or do this. Now kindly post your IC response or get out of this thread.

OOC:Since when can you decrypt a telegram between two people that did not go over the internet and even if he says it did, you are godmodding your ability and you have no right to do that. We are not even on your radar in the first place. Keep that in mind. You have to do an IC response to an IC post and you can't godmod it. You did not decrypt the message sent, you know nothing about our nation and you have no idea what happened. Now be realistic and do an IC response to maybe.. hearing a rumor. And MAKE IT IC. I'm tired of your OOC responses and generalizations. You best also be sure that you don't threaten us or you might wind up with an alliance or something on you. You do not control us, you know nothing about us. Real nations would not be so quick to threaten or do this. Now kindly post your IC response or get out of this thread.

OOC: Being as how you are not the OPer (unless of course you're a puppet), you have no authority to tell him to get out of the thread. That said, something marked SIC or Encrypted is generally considered outside of the knowledge of anyone it isn't addressed to, unless you reach a specific agreement with the player, regardless of how much money you put into intelligence. It's simply good form.

OOC: Being as how you are not the OPer (unless of course you're a puppet), you have no authority to tell him to get out of the thread. That said, something marked SIC or Encrypted is generally considered outside of the knowledge of anyone it isn't addressed to, unless you reach a specific agreement with the player, regardless of how much money you put into intelligence. It's simply good form.

OOC: Okay... you talking about a guy who doesn't even RP anything. He has not made one worthwhile post in this thread. He has done NOTHING but threaten and scold and lower the standards of this RP. He's doing it in my thread and I don't particularly like this because its relevant to both threads and he is clearly not making IC posts.

Lady Hippadameia of Aliquantus,

We would welcome any trade of between our two nations. however, on reading some of these communication, we would require the ships to be protected with a Submarine Wolve Pack and the VTB Extermination and your compliment of Harrier Jump Jets. As a token of trust, you are welcome to a ship of rebel slaves for free.

"You ever think command's sometimes a bit quick on the button?"

As co-pilot, Jerry McWatt didn't really have a lot of work to do on the average mission. The crew of the bomber numbered five - him, the pilot Sam Snowden, the navigator J.P. Moodus (nobody actually knew what the J.P. stood for, it was simply what he'd introduced himself as and no-one bothered to ask his real name), the bomb-aimer Frank Flume (or, as the crew called him, Franny, regardless of how many times he asked them not to call him that) and the rear gunner Caleb Orr. As co-pilot, McWatt only ever had to do anything if Snowden was killed, and he was basically superfluous.

Snowden turned around to where his co-pilot was sitting; the squadron of bombers had some way to go before reaching the projected location of the ships. "No, why d'you say that?"

"Well, I just think that they go to war over problems that could probably be solved with diplomacy. I mean, take this situation. It could have been solved through talking, right?"

"No," shouted Franny from where he sat near the back of the plane; the pilots both ignored his contribution as Snowden shook his head.

"McWatt, you're beginning to sound like one of those hippy peaceniks. If what I'm hearing is right, these fucks are planning to take this shipment of slaves and turn them into soldiers. SOLDIERS!"

Looking up from his map and the satellite maps in front of him, Moodus piped up. "Soldiers?"

"SOLDIERS!" shouted Snowden back to him. "How does that not make you sick to your stomach, man?"

Slumping down into the co-pilot's chair, McWatt exhaled. "You've got a point there."

"Damn right, I've got a point!" shouted Snowden, seemingly oblivious that McWatt was sitting just a few feet from him. "Imagine having to fight a war for a nation that's not your own, and it's not even your choice to do so! That's wrong on so many levels!"

"You can stop shouting now, I'm right here." Snowden looked up in surprise, apparently not realising that McWatt had sat down. "And I'd take a look downstairs, I think that's them."

The radio attached to the top of the cockpit buzzed into life. "One Alpha Fourteen, One Alpha Fourteen. Targets below. Dive."

Snowden whooped with delight as he sent the bomber into a steep dive. "Buckle up, guys! Franny, get ready to fire!"

"My name isn't Franny, for fuck's sake!" shouted Franny, but again, nobody paid him any heed.

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[THIS is OOC. That was IC. Square brackets = OOC, it's that simple.

OOC: Who is this at?

[Ships. SHIPS. Who has mentioned ships so far?

Incidentally, I did some searching for stats and, funnily enough, alone my nation is a full seventy times larger than all three of you combined. You mentioned an alliance, but then who will be on the side of the slavers?]

OOC: So me? Though someone maybe even bigger and better then you would help. Now tell me, is this at me? Yes or no?

We will need two thousand (2000) per Battalion, so that will be forty eight thousand (48000) for our ground forces and we will take any more you have for our navy.
Thank you for recommending no payment, it is a kind offer. I have made arrangements with the military and the stew ship HMS Shag at Sea and the hospital ship HMS Ever Station are en route to receive the slaves.
Signed,
Hippadameia
Lady Hippadameia - Trade and Economy Minister.


[SHIPS. SHIPS. SHIPS. Read the thread.]

The slaves are to be used as a live training exercise. They will attack our soldiers with real weapons and be totaly anihalated by the smaller unit of Aliquancian soldiers. If, on the extreemly rare occasion, an Aliquancian soldier is wounded, she will be killed.

The Rogius Agentis would like to purchase 20,000 male human resources. We have a need for them, in terms of training and weapons development. I dont care who they come from as long as I get them.

-Agies
Rogius Agentis Leader.

[SHIPS. SHIPS. SHIPS. Read the thread.]

OOC: Well that's how our deal went down to. Sorry if you didn't read the threads and their implied intent to transport an additional 1000 slaves.

OOC: Well that's how our deal went down to. Sorry if you didn't read the threads and their implied intent to transport an additional 1000 slaves.

[What's the more obvious one? Seriously, if you're feeling left out we can scramble another squadron of bombers to blast your ships to pieces as well.]

.... anyone going to sell to me? Agent are hard to come by these days.

[What's the more obvious one? Seriously, if you're feeling left out we can scramble another squadron of bombers to blast your ships to pieces as well.]

OOC: You have no idea to do war. I'm sorry but you are just terrible at it. I bet he's going to just ignore them.

[Well, what's the problem? I could have roleplayed the entire time they spent to get there, but that would be pointless and do nothing but up the topic's post count. Further, I notice that you've not really done anything but whine about my posting. I tell you what, I'll give you a situation to roleplay in reaction to:

We scrambled another squadron of bombers to attack your ships before they can reach the slaves and transport them successfully. They number twenty-five, and are accompanied by a twenty-strong fighter escort. I don't know what ships you have, but I imagine they'd be accompanied by some form of escorts themselves. Roleplay in reply to this attack, I won't stop you short of leaving one or two planes alive.

Huw Gunter walked into the Great Hall, where the King was watching the breaking news.

"Ah Huw what perfect timing - no no, don't bow" said The King as he stood up and shook his Defence advisor's hand

"Good day Your Majesty. This situation could have major implications you know. What's our official posisition?"

"Well my dear Huw 'officialy' this event has sickened us. I will make a press statment condeming this horriffic and unprovoked act of war by this bully McPsychoville. But between you and me? i care not. They have done what we could not do ourselves - executed our prisoners. The best part is that Aliquantas sent ships to tansport the slaves, saving our own."

"So Your Highness- we shall not retallitate?"

"absoloutley not...until we can forge our union, we cannot afford to go to war. I feel McPsychoville will have more powerful nations to answer to...afterall, they have just killed a fleet worth of 'innocents'."

[Well, what's the problem? I could have roleplayed the entire time they spent to get there, but that would be pointless and do nothing but up the topic's post count. Further, I notice that you've not really done anything but whine about my posting. I tell you what, I'll give you a situation to roleplay in reaction to:

We scrambled another squadron of bombers to attack your ships before they can reach the slaves and transport them successfully. They number twenty-five, and are accompanied by a twenty-strong fighter escort. I don't know what ships you have, but I imagine they'd be accompanied by some form of escorts themselves. Roleplay in reply to this attack, I won't stop you short of leaving one or two planes alive.

OOC: Ignored. You have no proof and an unwarrented attack is not in your favor. Much less you give no time for RP of issues. Until you go through the formal process I will not accept it. Every nation tries to contact or settle at the very least before going to war. Your action is unjustified and random. Without these grounds you are abusing your status and in a manner unfit for someone of your size to do so. Do it right or don't do it at all.

Huw Gunter walked into the Great Hall, where the King was watching the breaking news.

"Ah Huw what perfect timing - no no, don't bow" said The King as he stood up and shook his Defence advisor's hand

"Good day Your Majesty. This situation could have major implications you know. What's our official posisition?"

"Well my dear Huw 'officialy' this event has sickened us. I will make a press statment condeming this horriffic and unprovoked act of war by this bully McPsychoville. But between you and me? i care not. They have done what we could not do ourselves - executed our prisoners. The best part is that Aliquantas sent ships to tansport the slaves, saving our own."

"So Your Highness- we shall not retallitate?"

"absoloutley not...until we can forge our union, we cannot afford to go to war. I feel McPsychoville will have more powerful nations to answer to...afterall, they have just killed a fleet worth of 'innocents'."

[Nice, very nice indeed. What is diplomacy if it isn't manipulating others to do your dirty work?

Eralineta, unless I'm mistaken we've already been through the proper channels. We've demanded that this transaction does not go ahead, you ignored that demand and so we moved up to military action. As a rule, we do not negotiate when nations involved in slaving past the very bare minimum. If you didn't want military action, you would have been better actually listening to us, and possibly attempting to negotiate. I would appreciate, also, that you don't talk to me like I'm five. I've been writing for years, I've been studying war for just as long.]

OOC:Not true... The retired Raven corps attacked at random, and never had a purpose or reason other then for land and resources. But Eralineta is right, even Raven corps RPed the situation from the begining and Made it worth your while to read. SO if you plan to attack do it with some style and give us a story.

[I can't help but think also that you're under some delusion about war. We aren't going to attack when and how it suits you, we won't only scramble nine planes because you can destroy nine. The story is pretty clear - we're working to kill off the slave trade, you people are standing contrary to this goal. It may not be good form to decode certain transmissions, but if this choice is that or working from rumours, I'll pick the decoding because it offers more scope to roleplay with.]

The Rogius Agentis would like to purchase 20,000 male human resources. We have a need for them, in terms of training and weapons development. I dont care who they come from as long as I get them.

-Agies
Rogius Agentis Leader.

Rougius Agentis,
Rose Labor Inc. is more than willing to make you an offer. We are willing to sell you 20,000 male products, unengineered, for 2 billion Credits. This prices each specimen at C$100,000 a piece. This price can of course be negotiated.
-Rose Labor Inc.

[I can't help but think also that you're under some delusion about war. We aren't going to attack when and how it suits you, we won't only scramble nine planes because you can destroy nine. The story is pretty clear - we're working to kill off the slave trade, you people are standing contrary to this goal. It may not be good form to decode certain transmissions, but if this choice is that or working from rumours, I'll pick the decoding because it offers more scope to roleplay with.]

OOC: You have no idea how to read SIC then. You do not post out of thread for something you are doing in response to another thread. That is final. You are ignored. If you want to be a little baby go take it up with a mod who will tell you that you are wrong. SIC means you can't decrypt and take it. Read the rules and the stickies.

Edit: Also you cannot just CHOOSE to decode because: "It may not be good form to decode certain transmissions, but if this choice is that or working from rumours, I'll pick the decoding because it offers more scope to roleplay with." Too bad. You can't follow the rules, you don't get to take part.

[Let me break down for you.

Ridiculously huge nation with ridiculously huge defence budget sees tiny nation involved in slave trade. Ridiculously huge nation is against slave trade. Ridiculously huge nation intercepts tiny nation's communications, but oh no! ridiculously huge nation can't do anything with it because tiny nation miraculously has unbreakable technology.

Here's hoping Aliquantus has more guts and/or ingenuity than you.]

OOC:
Take the squabbling to TG's or a Chat. It is ruining the thread.
Also, McPsychoville, don't godmod attacks when you have no IC knowledge of (or contact with) the opposing nation.

[How many times? Huge nation. Opposes slave trade. Hears about this. Puts resources into it. It is not hard, nor inconceivable that I WOULD know about this, especially since the original post was to just about everyone - the "All Nations" made that much clear.]

Rougius Agentis,
Rose Labor Inc. is more than willing to make you an offer. We are willing to sell you 20,000 male products, unengineered, for 2 billion Credits. This prices each specimen at C$100,000 a piece. This price can of course be negotiated.
-Rose Labor Inc.


Reply:

We accept this offer. you credits will be transfered ASAP. It has been a pleasure doing bussniess with you. I will be sending a cargo ship to pick them up. do so make sure they are yound and in goo health.


Agies

Reply:

We accept this offer. you credits will be transfered ASAP. It has been a pleasure doing bussniess with you. I will be sending a cargo ship to pick them up. do so make sure they are yound and in goo health.


Agies

"We would prefer it if we delivered the products to you. Due to the hostile nature of some nations, hellbent on killing innocents, it is in our better interests to keep our distribution centers unknown. Our government does not wish to waste resources on exterminating troublesome governments. Please transmit coordinates and RLI transports will arrive within two to three business days."
-Rose Labor Inc.

Our location will be as follows:

***********
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We shall be waiting for you. A good luck with the transport. We hope no hostile action befall our news members.



- Agies

[Let me break down for you.

Ridiculously huge nation with ridiculously huge defence budget sees tiny nation involved in slave trade. Ridiculously huge nation is against slave trade. Ridiculously huge nation intercepts tiny nation's communications, but oh no! ridiculously huge nation can't do anything with it because tiny nation miraculously has unbreakable technology.

Here's hoping Aliquantus has more guts and/or ingenuity than you.]


OOC:

Happens everyday. Happens now. Happens in about 80 countries of the world. China, Russia, USA, UK, France, Japan. All these nations could do something about it and yet they haven't.

The current situation in Sudan is a good case. How about Uganda though? Maybe Botswana, Malawi? Oh yes, Brunei is a good example to. Vietnam is a constant center. Korea as well. Am I starting to make a clear point? Even Somalia still has its slave problems. Yet no nation is completely safe from slavery, because it exists right here in the US still. Messages slip by all the time, that does not mean you have a right to choose this though. Your action is out of place and does not make sense to just 'attack the evil slavery nation'. You do not know if our government publically supports slavery or if this is just a blacklisted project.

Seriously if the USA could keep a 750,000 man project of the A-Bomb secret for years without a leak, I think we can send one little message to another nation. Another prime example would be the SR-71, the Soviet SU-37. The Japanese Kyushu plan. These are all HUGE projects that took years to complete. I don't think anyone has a major grasp on the internet or communications because of the amount information flow and how it flows. You cannot know everything and you definately don't, stop godmoding your ability to do so.

[The key differences between this and the A-bomb? The A-bomb was developed in the 1940s, when intelligence was much, much less sophisticated, and the A-bomb was being developed by the richest and most powerful nation on the globe. This is not the 1940s, and you are far from the most powerful nation around. It is not fair for a person to say "lol this is encrypted" and for nobody to ever be able to get through it, and as I've explained, it is not godmodding for us to be able to break this encryption given the amount we're putting into this issue.]

[The key differences between this and the A-bomb? The A-bomb was developed in the 1940s, when intelligence was much, much less sophisticated, and the A-bomb was being developed by the richest and most powerful nation on the globe. This is not the 1940s, and you are far from the most powerful nation around. It is not fair for a person to say "lol this is encrypted" and for nobody to ever be able to get through it, and as I've explained, it is not godmodding for us to be able to break this encryption given the amount we're putting into this issue.]

OOC: Read this then: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=367578
You are dictating what happens to something of mine, without my consent and do not listen to my response. You are the very defination of godmodding:

A Godmode is an arbitary statement of superiority detrimental to good RP.

Your action of reading my SICs/telegrams/attacking without warning or reason or contact is just that. You are ruining the RP.

[This isn't an RP, this is a business transaction. I don't care how hard you protest, just writing telegrams is not serious roleplay, it's something anyone with fingers and a limited knowledge of English could do.]

[This isn't an RP, this is a business transaction. I don't care how hard you protest, just writing telegrams is not serious roleplay, it's something anyone with fingers and a limited knowledge of English could do.]

OOC: This is RP and I'd like it if you stopped interferring with your godmoding and unwarrented attacks. It is not my fault you fail reading comprehension or listen to whoever you attack, but then again my expectations of you actually contributing to this RP is rather null, but sadly not void.

IC:

Emperor Black made a statement to the world today on the national broadcast and by website, "People's of the world. Brothers and sisters of humanity, I proclaim slavery is an act of cruelty and while we do not agree with the acts that occaisonally are heard from all corners of this world the Eralineta people and the world itself has my support we will condemn any nation that openly and publically allows slavery to continue in any country.

OOC: Eralineta, why dont you just ignore him? That argument is obviously pointless.

IN CHARACTER PLEASE!
Due to the lack of time, I am not going to read all of that so if someone was role-playing, please restart after this post.

Anybody purposely blocking or attempting to disrupt this thread from IN CHARACTER role-play will be reported.

OOC: They can only if we let it be known. Though that is obviously not our intent at this time and therefore no word of this to the international community will be known. This is direct communication that no third-party will be able to intercept/learn of/get involved with without consent from all parties.

IC:

Emperor Black made a statement to the world today on the national broadcast and by website, "People's of the world. Brothers and sisters of humanity, I proclaim slavery is an act of cruelty and while we do not agree with the acts that occaisonally are heard from all corners of this world the Eralineta people and the world itself has my support we will condemn any nation that openly and publically allows slavery to continue in any country.

OOC: My IC post is to the world. SICly our slave transactions are still secret and no one knows at this time.

THe nation of Zackaroth would like be reminded what was the set price of the selling of slaves. We would also like to take this time to remind the world that all of these slaves are CRIMINALS that have either gotten life or on death row. We are doing them a favor.

James von Strangaild, Lord Governer and High Leader of Zackaroth.

OOC: Zackaroth that is strangely relevant to our 'endentured servants' request, but for the sake of simplicity would you be interested in selling those criminals to us, for $20,000 each? (I can give more if you request, as it will be your terms)

Queen Artifacta, after requests from Lady Hippadameia has decided to intervene against the anti-slavery supporters.

The Queen, over a satellite link with international community leaders responded “It is my absolute belief that once a citizen commits a crime, they are no longer worthy of choice civil rights and government protection as they have proven they make the wrong choices when given the ability to do so. As a citizen of Aliquantus, you are given the ability to live care free, with many luxuries lesser people cannot obtain. We do many things for our people and unlike many nations, we are not corrupt and cater for our peoples needs but when you’re a danger to either the people or the Aliquancian way of life you become the property of the people who you have acted illegally against”. After a pause for some gak, she continued “Our nation has been subjected to criticism before over methods of creating, selecting and training its soldiers but words will not deter us from our own choices.”

Queen of Aliquantus,
Rose Labor Inc. is willing to sign a contract with your nation to provide for your labor needs. We provide engineered nd unengineered products. We look forward to a contract with your nation.
-Rose Labor Inc.

OOC: This thread has become nothing but bitching. McPsychoville has RP'ed. Eralineta is ignored [for this thread only] and I will no longer participate in this RP.

Asaid walked purposefully along the winding corridors of her home’s lower level. It wasn’t quite a basement, as it extended out under the gardens, and out of the hillside beyond, but similar. She still had to decide what to do with her Adepta Spectrum ‘purchases.’

The training aids that had come with them had been sent for re-trial in the C’tani judicial system, which had infinitely lighter punishments for those crimes it held to be crimes.

The ‘recruits’ to her programme were being weaned off the various training drugs that had come with them, and she had a pack of counsellors in. But nonetheless, she wanted to see them.

There’d been seventy initially. Some of them were bound to be persuaded to take up civilian lives, after the course of treatment they were on – the nation they’d planned to serve, had after all, sold them. The others, well, Asaid had uses for them.

Nonetheless, it had been interesting to find another Aliquancian message awaiting her.

This one required a different response.

From: Marchioness Asaid Virenus, Office of the Elenaran, Eternal Necrontyr Empire of the C’tan
To: Lady Coventia, Defence Minister of Aliquancia
Subject: Purchase of Training Slaves WRT Aliquancian National Security

I hope this letter finds you well, and would like to thank you for your previous productive relationship with me. By now, you are probably aware of the reaction of the international community towards your request.

It is my belief that there is much to approve of in Aliquancian culture even though the penal system is by international standards, extremely harsh. Therefore it is with some concern that I have read the missive redirected to my table.

There are many nations that feel very strongly about slavery, and are quite willing to enforce their views on others. Effective and dedicated as your soldiers have proven to be to me, it must be obvious that an armed conflict against some of the larger nations in the world could only end with tremendous devastation to Aliquancia.

For this reason, I feel compelled to ask you to bring pressure to bear on the department responsible for these acquisitions to have them ceased. While I am aware of the undoubtable effectiveness of your training techniques, it is my opinion, which I cannot understate to you, that you would be better using non-living targets for training; you may have some loss in quality, but the dangers posed by continuing your policies are considerable. I have seen – sometimes personally – nations destroyed over issues such as these.

While my government would dearly love an enhanced relationship with Aliquancia, including trade, tourism, and possibly even high level governmental cooperation, I am informed that it cannot be concienced at this time due to the extensive – if understandable, Aliquancian use of the death penalty, and slavery.

Additionally, if Aliquancia were to be attacked by third party forces, while my government would certainly offer aid in recovery, the terms that aid would be offered under are likely to be much less favourable if this action appeared to be precipitated by slave-trading.

Yours in earnest,
Marchioness Asaid Virenus
Officer of the Elenaran, C’tan Empire.

OOCness: And no, it's not a matter of getting a whizz-kid to decrypt modern codes. Even Public-Key Ecryption used now can, with the keys in use, create codes that have more solutions than there are atoms in the universe. It gets even worse if they sent a courier with a symmetric key encryption system to Aliquancia. In this case, Asaid probably sent it using a pre-arranged one-time-pad system. Even I, in all my blinding (remember what your mother used to say?) future-tech-might couldn't break such a code without retriving a code book.

OOC: TG's Ali. IC post to come soon.

From: Marchioness Asaid Virenus, Office of the Elenaran, Eternal Necrontyr Empire of the C’tan
To: Lady Coventia, Defence Minister of Aliquancia
Subject: Purchase of Training Slaves WRT Aliquancian National Security, Addendum

It appears to me that you haven’t answered my previous letter of yesterday. I again stress that it is my firm belief that you must read it.

Yours in earnest,
Marchioness Asaid Virenus
Officer of the Elenaran, C’tan Empire.

Official Imperial Message to Aliquantus

The empire first would like to send greetings to one of its strongest allies, the empire while finding your training practices unorthodox does not condemn them in any was and is very pleased with the soliders previously purchased from you..on the matter of not having enough combatants to train against. The imperial prisons are currently surpassing their maximum capacity and we would be most willing to ship our condemned prisoners to Aliquantus for your needs and free of charge. Perhaps we can work out a periodic rate of shipment..

Furthermore the empire would like to issue an official pledge of support and alert any nation wishing to take military action against Aliquantus will be considered an act of war against the empire and will invoke military actions on our part as well as several other of the empire's allies

Emperor Nadov III of Gataway

Servant Corps: We are not fans of slavery, and we hope you reconsider your choice. We do offer a more morally-correct method though, known as "Servants Corps" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521964).

Servants are people that WANT to work, as opposed to slaves who are forced to work. Hence, they are legal and allowed within international society. We can help offer with dealing with contracts, and we guarrante human rights for servants around the world. Using servants respect the human race, avoids the icky issue of slavery, and allows for you to have cheap labour.

We present this option to see if you can accept it or not. It is a new option in a brand new era, and we do sign the "Theeb Accords" showing our anti-slavery stance. We hope you accept this corporation's plan. [You can check out our forum topic to see more about our policies.]