NationStates Jolt Archive


The NS Draftroom - the design center

The Macabees
17-03-2007, 22:02
Ever wonder where Nation States' top designers congregate? Ever wonder where all these designs are peer reviewed? Ever wonder where people share their knowledge, and where some people have gathered enough knowledge to further their careers? Well, you don't have to look too far! The NS Draftroom (http://draftroom.modernwarstudies.net/) is an online community which was founded by Sarzonia, designed to set up a place where anybody could have their weapons peer reviewed by other game players. Some of the most well known names show up there, and really, if a design has not been peer reviewed there then it's probably not worth buying. ;)

So, if you are an NS designer, or are interested in being one, or just like to talk about technology, the NS Draftroom (http://draftroom.modernwarstudies.net/) is the place for you!
Vault 10
17-03-2007, 22:10
Well, but keep in mind to be careful about what you say. Meaning being politically correct, undoubtedly inoffensive, cheery and the like. If you're planning to go against the current, it might be not the best place. Just the lesson I learned about NSD.
The Macabees
17-03-2007, 22:12
The Draftroom doesn't shun people going 'against the current'. It shuns people who justify ridiculous and physically impossible designs (say, like, The Phoenix Milita's), an who can't explain why and how they're doing it.
Vault 10
17-03-2007, 22:29
Note: the rant below was about the obsolete phased out one. The new... Well, let's see, but I expect it to turn out at least somewhat better.

Well, this too, but I've learned it goes both ways, for instance going further about realism (of others' designs) than the average.
While it isn't a bad place, some concepts like "sarcasm has no place here" or "unless you suggest improvements, don't post" look somewhat overrestrictive to me.
I think the formal rules would better be linked first:
Not to criticize, I myself post there, but just that I'd be happier with NSD if speech was regarded as a revocable right (like here) rather than a granted privilege.
At least I could move overly technical arguments from NS-II to NSD, rather than vice versa.
Franberry
17-03-2007, 22:34
The Draftroom is a good place, and if you can accept critisim and accept that your designs might not be perfect, it can be a great place. Good community too.
The Macabees
17-03-2007, 22:36
I was going to type a response, but honestly, this is an advertisement thread - why bitch?
Clandonia Prime
17-03-2007, 22:37
I think this should be stickied! Go draftroom woot woot.
Vault 10
17-03-2007, 22:42
At least kept in mind... What's better about NSD is that the threads don't sink in an hour, and it's dedicated to get comments. So a good place to have the design checked. Be prepared to get criticism at first, but that saves you from it in roleplay.

2Mac: We have TG, after all, so...
Clandonia Prime
17-03-2007, 22:45
V-10 the Submarine has been sold already to Whyatica, this is not the place to talk about it though.
Velkya
17-03-2007, 22:46
Join, and V10 will take off his shirt!

Wooo!
Franberry
17-03-2007, 22:49
Join, and V10 will take off his shirt!

Wooo!
*clubs Velkya
The Macabees
18-03-2007, 02:30
Bump!
The Macabees
19-03-2007, 02:35
New link:

http://draftroom.modernwarstudies.net/
Questers
19-03-2007, 09:13
ROFL At the opening post
The Macabees
19-03-2007, 20:20
Sarzonia did technically found it, even if forums are changed.
Vault 10
20-03-2007, 00:08
"Technically", that's it. Taking an idea already in the air and putting it on a free hosting isn't much of achievement.

But the new one... Ehr. I start to sound like a marketer. Well, at least I can say it will probably fix the flaws of the old one.
Hurtful Thoughts
20-03-2007, 00:48
So, is this a new-new one, or the old one with a facelift on the rules?


In other words:
"Can I be let in on 'probation, with a warning already added, you can ban me with no warning if I cause any* trouble."

I've gotten over the 'I don't like them and this is why...' phase, which was of extremely poor ettiquete and I apologise for any ill-mannered posts on the older draftroom.

*This includes if someone complains about my membership
Catalasia
20-03-2007, 03:30
Finally bothered to register. I'll be posting my first design soon (a ship, methinks).
Kesshite
20-03-2007, 04:43
The draftroom seems MT specific. Is FT welcome there as well?
Cravan
20-03-2007, 04:56
I believe someone requested an FT forum over IRC, and I think it was approved. So more than likely yes, FT is welcome.
Whyatica
20-03-2007, 04:58
The FT forum addition would require Why to not be lazy and add it on >>.
Kesshite
20-03-2007, 05:43
The FT forum addition would require Why to not be lazy and add it on >>.

Would you do it for a cookie?
Questers
20-03-2007, 08:58
So, is this a new-new one, or the old one with a facelift on the rules?


In other words:
"Can I be let in on 'probation, with a warning already added, you can ban me with no warning if I cause any* trouble."

I've gotten over the 'I don't like them and this is why...' phase, which was of extremely poor ettiquete and I apologise for any ill-mannered posts on the older draftroom.

*This includes if someone complains about my membership

As an admin I would give you my vote to be allowed to post, but its up to mac as its his forum or if he does a vote amongs admins.
The Macabees
20-03-2007, 16:31
I don't care if he joins. And... all forums are for all technology levels.
Skinny87
20-03-2007, 17:25
I don't care if he joins. And... all forums are for all technology levels.

Wait, so whats happened? Sarz deleted you? But I see your name in the Mod list on the original site...
The Macabees
20-03-2007, 17:30
Wait, so whats happened? Sarz deleted you? But I see your name in the Mod list on the original site...

I was suspended.
Skinny87
20-03-2007, 17:32
I was suspended.

I don't wish to turn this into a debate thread, so if you want to turn to TGs that's fine - but why, exactly?
The Macabees
20-03-2007, 17:34
I don't wish to turn this into a debate thread, so if you want to turn to TGs that's fine - but why, exactly?

On IRC Mekugi was having troubles logging on. It kept booting him, saying that he had been banned by the sysops. So, on the NS Draftroom I posted past lock on the IRC thread to tell Mekugi that he wasn't banned, only CGI clients were, and I linked him to the espernet site. I was warned for posting past lock:

http://pdfdirectory.modernwarstudies.net/screenie.jpg

I was suspended for my sarcasm.

Great reasons, after all. :rolleyes:
Skinny87
20-03-2007, 17:40
On IRC Mekugi was having troubles logging on. It kept booting him, saying that he had been banned by the sysops. So, on the NS Draftroom I posted past lock on the IRC thread to tell Mekugi that he wasn't banned, only CGI clients were, and I linked him to the espernet site. I was warned for posting past lock:

http://pdfdirectory.modernwarstudies.net/screenie.jpg

I was suspended for my sarcasm.

Great reasons, after all. :rolleyes:

I just posted in Draftroom, asking Sarz about it. I'm sure he'll see sense and reinstate you, and hopefully undo a lot of the damage he's done before now.
The Union of Sharona
20-03-2007, 17:48
I just posted in Draftroom, asking Sarz about it. I'm sure he'll see sense and reinstate you, and hopefully undo a lot of the damage he's done before now.

That's funny... Sarz, see sense about a ruling he's made on TND? That's like thinking he'll let us reference books, or post chat logs...
The Macabees
20-03-2007, 17:53
Well, the damage is already done.
Hurtful Thoughts
21-03-2007, 00:06
As an admin I would give you my vote to be allowed to post, but its up to mac as its his forum or if he does a vote amongs admins.

I don't care if he joins. And... all forums are for all technology levels.

Thank you very much in advance.
Carbandia
21-03-2007, 15:02
I have a question, Macc, and it's a bit of a idiotic one (needs to be asked, though)..

Does that new board replace the draftroom we all know, and love?
Axis Nova
21-03-2007, 16:17
That's funny... Sarz, see sense about a ruling he's made on TND? That's like thinking he'll let us reference books, or post chat logs...

In all fairness, chat logs were banned because I posted two logs of arguments I had with other draftroom members that made them look rather foolish and caused a bit of drama.
The Transylvania
21-03-2007, 16:28
In all fairness, chat logs were banned because I posted two logs of arguments I had with other draftroom members that made them look rather foolish and caused a bit of drama.

That was me. You only did to piss me off and make fun of me because I was tried of you and Hat not role-playing and etc.. I like the banning of chat logs as they are for the poeple talking in them, not the whole world.

Sorry about what was done to you, Mac.
The Macabees
21-03-2007, 16:54
I have a question, Macc, and it's a bit of a idiotic one (needs to be asked, though)..

Does that new board replace the draftroom we all know, and love?

I don't know about love.
The Macabees
21-03-2007, 16:54
In all fairness, chat logs were banned because I posted two logs of arguments I had with other draftroom members that made them look rather foolish and caused a bit of drama.

No, it made you look like a tard. Insulting other members doesn't make you look good. ;)
The Transylvania
21-03-2007, 17:08
No, it made you look like a tard. Insulting other members doesn't make you look good. ;)

I don't think you know this, but you're a cool person.
The Macabees
21-03-2007, 17:12
Nah, I talk as much shit as he does. I just don't post it where it doesn't belong.

EDIT: I mean, in general, not against one person.
Hotdogs2
21-03-2007, 18:04
Great new forums! Sarz is a good NSer but he is too strict on his boards. Glad to have new ones up.

PS- Expect a TG about an order from Kriegzimmer possibly....o.O
Carbandia
21-03-2007, 19:47
I don't know about love.
Ok, maybe that was too strong a word..But in any case I've joined up.
Vault 10
21-03-2007, 19:54
I have a question, Macc, and it's a bit of a idiotic one (needs to be asked, though)..

Does that new board replace the draftroom we all know, and love?

At least know. From what I know, yes.
The Macabees
21-03-2007, 20:45
PS- Expect a TG about an order from Kriegzimmer possibly....o.O

Do you go on IRC?
Hurtful Thoughts
24-03-2007, 23:09
The site appears to be down...
Whyatica
24-03-2007, 23:11
Mac needs to renew the domain name.
The Macabees
25-03-2007, 01:54
I tried last night, but had some problems with the credit card. It's being cleared up by the bank.
Carbandia
25-03-2007, 14:25
So it should only be a temporary hiccup (we hope)?
The Macabees
25-03-2007, 21:08
So it should only be a temporary hiccup (we hope)?

Yes. My server providers are being idiots, and failing to clear it up with the bank (who was told it was not fraud).
Scandinavian Nations
29-04-2007, 14:45
Restored here:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx