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History of SYAE

Daehanjeiguk
16-03-2007, 19:14
This Thread aims to compile the various histories of the different countries in SYAE. Its purpose is to provide a better comprehension of the historical trends affecting countries in SYAE and a better continuity of historical events with present events.

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1033: Herek the Great sets out from small Viking village in upper Norway and manages to unite most of Scandinavia.

= 1056-1067 - The Danish Conquest

1056: The Viking Conquest of Denmark is started.

1067: Denmark is overrun; border between Vikings and Germanic tribes established.

1100: Iceland is fortified; settlements there have walls built, men more thouroughly trained than before.

1300: Viking raids mysteriously stop; parts of modern day Finland break away slowly as power of Vikings ebbs.

1350: Major civil war in Scandinavia - a Christian Viking King takes power and forcefully converts Vikings to Christianity.

1388: General Yi Seonggyei leads an attack on Liaoning, capturing Dadu {Beijing}.

1390: Establishing the new Han Dynasty {韓}General Yi allies himself with the Ming Dynasty and leads conquest of Goryeo.

1392: With the fall of Hanseong – the capital of Goryeo – General Yi becomes King of the Han Dynasty, in the tradition of the Western Han people; General Yi adopts Imperial name – Taejo.

1434: War with the Yuan Dynasty leads to the first tributary policy of the Han Empire; the Seijong Emperor leads to the first standardization of laws and standards, including a new, simpler writing system, aimed to educating all citizens of Han.

= 1522 - First Han-Ming War

1522: The Han Empire concedes the Divine Mandate to the Ming.

= 1598-1602 - Second Han-Ming War

1598: The Ming invade the Han Empire, commencing the Second Han Ming War.

1602: The First Han-Ming War ends with the Divine Mandate restored to the Han Empire.

1603: Finnish war is settled; border is set for the United Kingdoms of Scandinavia (?).

=== 1618-1648 - Thirty Years War

= 1625-1669 - Third Han-Ming War

1648: The Treaty of Westphalia ends the Thirty Years War, with the power of the HRE and Spain cut by France.

1669: The Ming Dynasty is conquered by the Han Empire, ending all apparent threats to the Divine Mandate.

=== 1756-1763 - Seven Years' War

1763: The Treaty of Paris {1763} ends the Seven Years' War, with British dominance over rising over French power; Prussia emerges as a first-rate power in Europe.

= 1769 - War of 1769

1769: The Han Empire conquers the Philippine Islands from the declining Spanish Empire after a short conflict.

= 1775-1783 - War of American Independence

1783: The Treaty of Paris {1783} ends the War, with Great Britain recognizing American Independence, along with notable territory exchanges between France, Spain, and Britain.

=== 1800-1815 - Napoleonic Wars

1805: The Scandinavian State of Futuris is founded.

= 1854-1856 - Crimean War

= 1861-1865 - American Civil War

1869: Japan occupies the Sakhalin and Kuril Islands after Tokugawa Shogunate's remnants fled there following the Battle of Hakodate, near the end of the Boshin Civil War.

1878: The Saharan Conversion begins as massive religious movement across French-controlled Mali gives rise to the Songhai religion.

= 1894-1895 - First Russo Japanese War

1894: Japan launches an attack on Russia, after pro-Japanese Ainu leader Koreharinoaza Maro was assissinated, allegedly by Russian agents; the war ends in a stalemate.

= 1904-1905 - Second Russo-Japanese War

1905: Japanese victory gives the Meiji Emperor a new foothold into Siberian territories after the Russian defeat at Tsushima.

1910: Rebellions in Mali commence, throwing out the French regime that controlled the nation for half a century.

=== 1914-1918 – WORLD WAR I

1918: Versailles Treaty ends World War I, with the military power of Germany greatly diminshed.

= 1917-1924 - Third Russo-Japanese War

1917: Japanese intervention in the October Revolution begins a second conflict between Russia and Japan.

1919: The Mali Imperial Conquest begins

1922: Ireland is granted limited autonomy within the United Kingdom after the Irish Civil War.

1924: After two years of stalemate, the third Russo-Japanese War ends with the establishment of the restored Romanov Monarchy over the Japanese Siberian claims.

= 1927-1929 - First Cameroon-Mali War

1929: The United Empire of Nippon and Eastern Rossiya is founded after the death of the Romanov Empress; First Cameroon-Mali War ends with Nigeria joining the Mali Empire.

1937: The Kingdom of South Africa is established within the Commonwealth.

=== 1939-1945 – WORLD WAR II
= 1939-1941: Fourth Russo-Japanese War

1939: Fourth Russo-Japanese War begins, after the Nomonhan Incident, Japan citing her state of war with Germany and calling Russia a German 'ally.'

1941: Germany brings the April Campaign to control the soft Balkans region, makes a puppet state in Yugoslavia; Fourth Russo-Japanese War ends in Japanese conquest of the Far East, after Operation Barbarossa brought Russia into the Allied camp

= 1942-1947 - Saharan-Mediterranean War

1942: After the assassination of Enver Hoxha, Greece invades Albania; Germany and Yugoslavia retaliate with an invasion of Greece.

1943: Yugoslav partisans, lead by Josef Tito, defeat the puppet government; Yugoslavia becomes allied with the Soviet Union.

1943: Constanta Accords. Bulgaria and Yugoslavia form the new Balkan Union.

1944: Yugoslav and Soviet troops reconquer the Balkans from the Axis forces, the majority of which is divided between Soviet and Yugoslav spheres, establishing the state of the Balkan Union as it is today.

1945: Germany split into East and West. Capital of the West is Munich, while the Capital of the east is Potsdam.

1947: Battle of Algiers; Algeria is conquered and becomes the last piece of the Mali Empire; The Empire becomes the Saharan Confederate Expanse

1949: Saharan Civil War ends.

1954: The Saharan Hierarchy Triumvirate is founded.

1958: The United Arab Republic is formed between Syria and Egypt.

1963: Iraq and Kuwait join the UAR.

1964: Iraq and Kuwait secede from the UAR, to form the Socialist Republic of Iraq.

= 1968-1969 - Second Cameroon-Mali War
= 1968 - Second Finnish War

1968: Following the Six-Day War with Israel, the UAR dissolves, with Syria joining Iraq in the new United Arab Socialist Republics; 2nd Finnish war most probably provoked by communists - final border is set after peace is made in three days.

1969: The defeat of Cameroon in the Second Cameroon-Mali War confirms the status of Nigeria as a dependency of the Saharan Confederate Expanse.

1974: Egypt surrenders and becomes a part of the UASR.

1975: The UASR expands into Bahrain, Qatar, and the UAE.

1985: Bamako announced as the religious capital and Holy City of the Songhai Religion.

1991: Germany Reunified after 46 years apart. Berlin named new Capital of Federal German Republic; Japan invades the Siberian Federal District, annexing several federal subjects ostensibly in accordance with the local populace's wishes after holding 'free' referendums; the RSFSR declares that it WILL get back Siberia, also states that the Romanovs are false leaders supporting evil ways of the past.

= 1993-95: First Chechen War

1993: Russia soundly defeats any ground resistance in Chechnya after a lengthy campaign.

1994: In response to feared aggression by the RSFSR, Poland, Ukraine and Hungary sign Treaty for the Freed Peoples of Eastern Europe in Kiev, a joint defense initiative to protect against possible aggression from the Russian SFSR; Headquarters are located in Kiev.

1995: Switzerland and Liechtenstein join Germany after Official Referendum, forming the German Confederation.

1996: Czech Republic and Slovakia sign Treaty for the Freed Peoples of Eastern Europe, presumably in response to the German Confederation, and likewise to strengthen relations in the fall-out after the Velvet Divorce; the Treaty is later revised into the Eastern European Alliance.

1997: Weary a rise in German Nationalism, Austria petitions to join the Eastern European Alliance, is successful.

= 1998-99: Second Chechen War

1999: Eastern European Alliance is allowed to expire at the end of its first three year term. Eastern European Union formed as a multi-national confederation of nations; Capital moved to Vienna; News Years Eve French Revolution brings a Socialist Government into power.

2001: Moldova elects communist government, anti-government forces stage a coup in Chisinau, EEU immediately recognizes leaders of coup as legitimate government, Ukraine sends an intervention force, Moldavian troops loyal to communist government are defeated; Moldova is later annexed into EEU as a seperate republic.

2003: The EEU is centralized into a stronger political union between its constituent states, with a centralized government, armed force, and governmental facilities.

2004: The state in Spain degenerates into numerous city-states, putting Western Europe on the brink of Economic collapse.


This Project is currently under work.
Granate
17-03-2007, 01:59
Just some notes.

1945: Germany split into East and West. Capital of the West is Munich, while the Capital of the east is Potsdam.

1991: Germany Reunified after 46 years apart. Berlin named new Capital of Federal German Republic.

1995: Switzerland and Leichtenstein join Germany after Official Referendum, forming the German Confederation.
Daehanjeiguk
17-03-2007, 02:13
There's the matter of deciding what actually happened during World Wars I and II, because I can guarantee that China wasn't involved in either case, and Japan won against the Soviets...
Granate
17-03-2007, 02:15
Germany could of been split for numerous reasons. If the Soviets didn't make it to Berlin or something like that, then the East West split would of been done to reduce Germany's power. If the Soviets did make it to Berlin then East Germany would of been a Psuedo-Socialist Nation like most of Eastern Europe.
Granate
17-03-2007, 02:21
I am already liking this, I am sorta of History Buff, WWII and Medieval History mostly, and I like projects like this.
Daehanjeiguk
17-03-2007, 02:23
There lies the issue of how the EEU was formed too...


I'm also wondering if we could somehow make the 1769 war a bigger war ~_~ - it's up to the person RPing as Spain, since they "lose" the Philippines in that war.

Anyhow, it's all in due time. Hopefully, people will appreciate this sort of project.
Newer Kiwiland
17-03-2007, 13:03
I always hoped someone (other tha me) would do this! :cool:

For more of Japan's history, could you also add in:

1869: Japan occupied the Sakhalin and Kurils Islands after Tokugawa Shogunate's remanants fled there following the Battle of Hakodate, near the end of the Boshin Civil War.

1894-5: First Russo-Japanese War triggered when pro-Japanese Ainu leader Koreharinoaza Maro was assissinated, allegedly by Russian agents, but resulting in stalemate a year later

1904-5: Second Russo-Japanese War, ended with decisive Japanese naval victory at the Battle of Tsushima and Russia's ceding port Vladivostok, securing Japan's naval dominance.

1917-24: Third Russo-Japanese War, as you've already included

1939: Fourth Russo-Japanese War broke out after the Nomonhan Incident, Japan citing her state of war with Germany and calling Russia a German 'ally'

1941: Fourth Russo-Japanese War ended in Japanese conquest of the Far East, after Operation Barbarossa brought Russia into the Allied camp

1991: Japan invaded the Siberian Federal District, annexing several federal subjects ostensibly in accordance with the local populace's wishes after holding 'free' referendums
Daehanjeiguk
17-03-2007, 20:13
I've added in numerous wars of past importance, considering they formed new establishments of power and order in the world. PLEASE tell me if anything from these historical periods are different.
Candistan
17-03-2007, 20:23
1991: The RSFSR declares that it WILL get back Siberia, also states that the Romanovs are false leaders supporting evil ways of the past.

1993-95: First Chechen War

1998-99: Second Chechen War

2006: Threats made against Moscow and St. Petersgurg by Chechen Rebel

2007: Moscow and St. Petersburg eradicated. The Last Chechen Wasr begins with the complete and utter destruction of Grozny and Stratoy and the massacring of every Chechen man, woman and child inside Russia.
Daehanjeiguk
17-03-2007, 20:50
1991: The RSFSR declares that it WILL get back Siberia, also states that the Romanovs are false leaders supporting evil ways of the past.

1993-95: First Chechen War

1998-99: Second Chechen War

2006: Threats made against Moscow and St. Petersgurg by Chechen Rebel

2007: Moscow and St. Petersburg eradicated. The Last Chechen Wasr begins with the complete and utter destruction of Grozny and Stratoy and the massacring of every Chechen man, woman and child inside Russia.

I've added all but the last two, because they're considerably "recent" events.
Amazonian Beasts
18-03-2007, 00:11
SCE Important Notes:


780 A.D.: Empire of Mali formed after the slow collapse of the Ghana Empire

1062: Songhai Empire violently overthrows the last of the Mali Empire.

1581: Songhai Empire, declining because of internal rebellion, finally overthrown by tribal insurgencies supported by Dutch backings.

1581-1770: Slave Trade in Saharan Africa

1803: Tripoli and Algerian pirates defeated by American marines. Africa falls to Western dominance

1860-1882: The European Race for Africa: Most of Africa is conquered by European Imperial agendas, and the French take most of Saharan Africa

1878-1890: The Saharan Conversion: Massive religious movement across French-controlled Mali begins the preeminence of the Songhai religion

1910: Mali massive rebellions ensue, throwing out the French regime that controlled the nation for half a century

1911: Toutozo Utomaba becomes Emperor of Mali

1919: The Mali Imperial Conquest begins

1919-1927: Conquest of Saharan Africa by Mali forces

1927-1929: First Cameroon-Mali War, over Nigeria, ends with Nigeria entering the Mali Empire

1942-1947: Saharan-Mediterranean War between Algeria and the Mali Empire

1947: Battle of Algiers. Algeria is conquered and becomes the last piece of the Mali Empire. The Empire becomes the Saharan Confederate Expanse

1948-1991: Large influx of the dregs of Western society to the SCE: Austrian, American, English, German, and French refugees, downtrodden, and poor enter the Expanse in search of better lives. The Expanse becomes a major multicultural African nation

1949: Saharan Civil War ends with the formulation of Saharan Democratic roots

1954: The Saharan Hierarchy Triumvirate is founded

1968-1969: The Second Cameroon-Mali War, over Nigeria again, ends with Cameroonian defeat and the payment of hefty reperations

1985: Bamako announced as the religious capital of the Songhai Religion and a Holy City.
Maryan
18-03-2007, 00:34
1922-After the Irish Civil War, Ireland is promised autonomy within Great Britain.
Daehanjeiguk
18-03-2007, 04:04
SCE Important Notes:


780 A.D.: Empire of Mali formed after the slow collapse of the Ghana Empire

1062: Songhai Empire violently overthrows the last of the Mali Empire.

1581: Songhai Empire, declining because of internal rebellion, finally overthrown by tribal insurgencies supported by Dutch backings.

1581-1770: Slave Trade in Saharan Africa

1803: Tripoli and Algerian pirates defeated by American marines. Africa falls to Western dominance

1860-1882: The European Race for Africa: Most of Africa is conquered by European Imperial agendas, and the French take most of Saharan Africa

1878-1890: The Saharan Conversion: Massive religious movement across French-controlled Mali begins the preeminence of the Songhai religion

1910: Mali massive rebellions ensue, throwing out the French regime that controlled the nation for half a century

1911: Toutozo Utomaba becomes Emperor of Mali

1919: The Mali Imperial Conquest begins

1919-1927: Conquest of Saharan Africa by Mali forces

1927-1929: First Cameroon-Mali War, over Nigeria, ends with Nigeria entering the Mali Empire

1942-1947: Saharan-Mediterranean War between Algeria and the Mali Empire

1947: Battle of Algiers. Algeria is conquered and becomes the last piece of the Mali Empire. The Empire becomes the Saharan Confederate Expanse

1948-1991: Large influx of the dregs of Western society to the SCE: Austrian, American, English, German, and French refugees, downtrodden, and poor enter the Expanse in search of better lives. The Expanse becomes a major multicultural African nation

1949: Saharan Civil War ends with the formulation of Saharan Democratic roots

1954: The Saharan Hierarchy Triumvirate is founded

1968-1969: The Second Cameroon-Mali War, over Nigeria again, ends with Cameroonian defeat and the payment of hefty reperations

1985: Bamako announced as the religious capital of the Songhai Religion and a Holy City.

How much of deviates from RL History?
Amazonian Beasts
18-03-2007, 19:33
How much of deviates from RL History?

The "1878-1890" Conversion one and on. The rest is all Saharan African history.
Daehanjeiguk
18-03-2007, 20:27
I've updated the history, taking out some irrelevant wars and events (mostly from my history of the Han).

I'm kind of curious about what happened in World War I and World War II - and all of the wars littered in there.

In fact, it'll be a lot simpler if you guys just gave me a few important things:

The date at which your country deviates from the RL history (mine is 1388CE, SCE is 1878CE). And try to fill in as much of the significant historical anomalies that helped make your country as it is today. World Wars I and II are considerably more important for recent history than anything else, and it seems that enough of the world has changed that it's worth analyzing as well. If it means much, I'd like to know what happened in the previous wars, going back to the Thirty Wars War, the Seven Years' War, the Napoleonic Wars, and etc. If none of those wars are historically different or significant to your country's history, then let me know so I deal with it accordingly. Otherwise, I'd also like to have a discussion about other histories and such, because that would make this thread more useful in the long run.
Maryan
18-03-2007, 21:05
Hmm, I assumed that Great Britain followed the same history as in RL, except the Ireland business of course. I'll give some more info tomorrow, it takes some time to invent your own history!
Granate
18-03-2007, 22:01
Just until 1995, atleast to the best of my knowledge. And this comes without knowing what happened in WWII.
Jaredcohenia
20-03-2007, 21:12
1941: Hitler invades Yugoslavia in the April War, creation of a Yugoslav puppet state.

1942: Albanian Offensive. Bosnian, Stefan Ludvir, assassinates Enver Hoxha, leader of the Albanian Communist Party. Caught and hanged. Greek invasion Albania, Italy defeated. Yugoslav and German forces defeat the Greeks in the Battle of Tirane. Hitler grants Nedić control of Albania.

1943: Yugoslavian partisians, lead by Josef Tito, defeat Nedić's men in Belgrade, eventually absorbing Croatia. Yugoslavia becomes allied with the Soviet Union.

1943: Constanta Accords. Bulgaria and Yugoslavia agree that there is strength in numbers, creating the first Balkan Union.

1944: Retaking of the Balkans. Yugoslavian troops invade Italian Montenegro while Bulgarian/Soviet troops assault Romania. The Romanian division occurs, Moldavians given to the Soviets while Romanians under Balkan control.

Bold is important :P
Daehanjeiguk
21-03-2007, 19:25
Please continue discussion even though I will not be here most of the time - it will be very interesting! *B*
Daehanjeiguk
02-04-2007, 20:59
any more new histories to add?
West Pacific
03-04-2007, 17:36
Important dates in my nation's history:

1989: Fall of communism in Central Europe; Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary declare complete independence from Soviet Union.

1991: With signing of Belavezha Accords the Soviet Union is dissolved, Ukraine and Moldova declare independence.

1993: Velvet Divorce, Czechoslovakia is broken up into Czech Republic and Slovakia.

Here is where it starts to divert from RL history.

1993: RSFSR launches First Chechen War.

1994: In response to feared aggression by the RSFSR, Poland, Ukraine and Hungary sign Treaty for the Freed Peoples of Eastern Europe in Kiev, a joint defense initiative to protect against possible aggression from the Russian SFSR. Headquarters are located in Kiev.

1995: Switzerland and Liechtenstein join Germany to form the German Confederation.

1996: Czech Republic and Slovakia sign Treaty for the Freed Peoples of Eastern Europe.

1996: Treaty for the Freed Peoples of Eastern Europe re-organized into Eastern European Alliance.

1997: Weary a rise in German Nationalism, Austria petitions to join the Eastern European Alliance, is successful.

1999: Eastern European Alliance is allowed to expire at the end of its first three year term. Eastern European Union formed as a multi-national confederation of nations. Capital moved to Vienna.

2001: Moldova elects communist government, anti-government forces stage a coup in Chisinau, EEU immediately recognizes leaders of coup as legitimate government, Ukraine sends an intervention force, Moldavian troops loyal to communist government are defeated. Moldova is annexed into EEU as a seperate republic.

2002-2003: Referendums in all republics vote overwhelmingly in favor of giving more power to EEU, National Assembly is set up as a Congressional type of legislature from all member nations, including Moldova. Victor Shishenko elected frist President of EEU. Militaries of Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic and Hungary are placed under command of the EEU. Military is restructured to facilitate the new multi-lingual fighting force. English, Polish, Ukrainian and Russian declared official languages of the EEU. Upon joining military, all soldiers are required to be fluent in English. All high schools are required to teach three years of English minimum as part of an effort to make EEU more competitive in international trade.


That's pretty much everything I can think of at this time leading up to SYAE, I suppose I should put this in my factbook, eh?
West Pacific
03-04-2007, 20:58
Any suggestions? As for WWI, WWII and the Cold War, I don't see how they can be ignored, at least not in the West, both those wars had too large of an impact on Europe to be ignored and both Candistan and I are picking up our nation's SYAE histories more or less at the fall of the Soviet Union. WWI didn't have that much of an effect on Asia, certainly not in comparison to the effect it had on Europe, and even WWII could be ignored in terms of its effects on Asia with the way Kiwiland and Daehanjeiguk are approaching their alternate histories.
Jaredcohenia
03-04-2007, 21:02
I personally think that WWII should've happened in Asia. You can't ignore Fascist Japan and the Nanjing Massacre
Granate
03-04-2007, 21:11
In Asia the War wouldn't of happened, mostly because there was no Facist Japan according to Kiwiland's History
Jaredcohenia
03-04-2007, 21:20
In Asia the War wouldn't of happened, mostly because there was no Facist Japan according to Kiwiland's History

Right now in my history, I've yet to incorprorate Turkey into my nation yet it's there.
Granate
03-04-2007, 21:43
Right now in my history, I've yet to incorprorate Turkey into my nation yet it's there.

If Kiwiland says it didn't happen then it didn't happen. It's his history.
Daehanjeiguk
03-04-2007, 21:55
I personally think that WWII should've happened in Asia. You can't ignore Fascist Japan and the Nanjing Massacre

The Nanjing Massacre never occurred; in fact, Fascist Japan never occurred either.

And as far as I've seen, WWI still occurred and you've even admitted at points in your discourse that Turkey was "responsible" - I can't tell if it's a sincere or whitewashed attempt to reconcile relations, but I'm leaning on the latter given recent events - for the Armenian genocide. This is one reason why a good history before you start RPing helps out a lot when coming out to RPing present circumstances.
Granate
03-04-2007, 21:57
The Nanjing Massacre never occurred; in fact, Fascist Japan never occurred either.

And as far as I've seen, WWI still occurred and you've even admitted at points in your discourse that Turkey was "responsible" - I can't tell if it's a sincere or whitewashed attempt to reconcile relations, but I'm leaning on the latter given recent events - for the Armenian genocide. This is one reason why a good history before you start RPing helps out a lot when coming out to RPing present circumstances.

Basically German is as it was throughout history, except for minor alterations here and there. Such as in WWII, it wasn't allied with Japan. Only after 1995 does it veer from History
Daehanjeiguk
03-04-2007, 22:30
Basically German is as it was throughout history, except for minor alterations here and there. Such as in WWII, it wasn't allied with Japan. Only after 1995 does it veer from History

Thank you - you reminded me of another thing!

Only tell me things that deviate significantly from the normal historical track. Preferably, tell me when your history first changes from the historical records and any significant changes after that. The more distant your history, the more details I will need. The more recent, the fewer. And all of the other usual things.

But anyway, based on Granate's statements, I think it's safe to say that WWI and WWII both occurred, including any of the significant pre-dated conflicts, like the Thirty Years War, the Seven Years' War, and the Napoleonic Wars. If there is something different, please let me.

Also, if I could talk to the person playing as Spain, so we could discuss any significant events that occurred during our historical war in 1769 - when I won the Philippines from the Spanish Empire following their supposed losses in the Seven Years' War. I'd just like to see where we would go after that.
Granate
03-04-2007, 23:08
Thank you - you reminded me of another thing!

Only tell me things that deviate significantly from the normal historical track. Preferably, tell me when your history first changes from the historical records and any significant changes after that. The more distant your history, the more details I will need. The more recent, the fewer. And all of the other usual things.

But anyway, based on Granate's statements, I think it's safe to say that WWI and WWII both occurred, including any of the significant pre-dated conflicts, like the Thirty Years War, the Seven Years' War, and the Napoleonic Wars. If there is something different, please let me.

Also, if I could talk to the person playing as Spain, so we could discuss any significant events that occurred during our historical war in 1769 - when I won the Philippines from the Spanish Empire following their supposed losses in the Seven Years' War. I'd just like to see where we would go after that.

I felt that Germany's history was already mixed up so I left it as it was until the German Confederation.
Spizania
03-04-2007, 23:09
OOC:
I could have some problems with the total lack of the Yom Kippur war messing up the development of the Merkava
Daehanjeiguk
03-04-2007, 23:27
Well, the end result of these histories will supposedly get our countries to where they are relatively in RL technologically, economically, and perhaps militarily. You can still have the Merkava IV - just make up a new reason why it was developed.
Granate
03-04-2007, 23:31
Maybe the rise in German Nationalism that hit Germany in the mid and late 90s?
West Pacific
04-04-2007, 00:00
1974: Egypt surrenders and becomes a part of the UASR.

1975: The UASR expands into Bahrain, Qatar, and the UAE.

That seems like a pretty good incentive for Israel to start development of a new tank to me. ;)
Newer Kiwiland
04-04-2007, 00:19
I personally think that WWII should've happened in Asia. You can't ignore Fascist Japan and the Nanjing Massacre

In this timeline, the Taisho Democracy limped its way through to the 60s, at which point the series of coups that ended it in RL occurred but failed to rally public opinion, resulting in a full scale transition to parliamentary democracy.

I suppose you could call the Japan that invaded Russia during WWII fascist.... But, there wasn't gonna be a WWII in Asia, particularly with a China united and strong.
Spizania
04-04-2007, 00:21
heh, yes, but the reason the Merkava came out the way it did was the realisation that they could not sustain the losses they took during the Yom Kippur war, hence the massive emphasis on crew survivability
Futuris
04-04-2007, 01:32
1033: Herek the Great sets out from small Viking village in upper Norway and manages to unite most of Scandinavia.

1056: Viking raids on Europe do not cease (as they did in RL) but continue fiercely as ever. New strategies are developed due to the unification. Settlements in England are fortified. Conquest of Denmark is started.

1067: Denmark is overrun. Border between Vikings and Germanic tribes established.

1100: Iceland is fortified. Settlements there have walls built, men more thouroughly trained than before.

1300: Viking raids mysteriously stop. Parts of modern day Finland break away slowly as power of Vikings ebbs.

1350: Major civil war. A Christian king (previously Viking) takes power and converts Vikings to Christianity.

1400: Christianity acts as a unification force, and power slowly grows.

1600: Small war with Finnish tribes over land boundaries. New ones are continously made and broken.

1603: Finnish war is settled. Border is set.

1805: The Scandinavian State of Futuris is founded.

WWI and WWII: The SSF stays neutral.

1956: Constitutional monarchy is established. The SSF escapes the Iron Curtain.

1968: 2nd Finnish war most probably provoked by communists - final border is set after peace is made in three days.
Daehanjeiguk
08-04-2007, 03:24
1033: Herek the Great sets out from small Viking village in upper Norway and manages to unite most of Scandinavia.

1056: Viking raids on Europe do not cease (as they did in RL) but continue fiercely as ever. New strategies are developed due to the unification. Settlements in England are fortified. Conquest of Denmark is started.

1067: Denmark is overrun. Border between Vikings and Germanic tribes established.

1100: Iceland is fortified. Settlements there have walls built, men more thouroughly trained than before.

1300: Viking raids mysteriously stop. Parts of modern day Finland break away slowly as power of Vikings ebbs.

1350: Major civil war. A Christian king (previously Viking) takes power and converts Vikings to Christianity.

1400: Christianity acts as a unification force, and power slowly grows.

1600: Small war with Finnish tribes over land boundaries. New ones are continously made and broken.

1603: Finnish war is settled. Border is set.

1805: The Scandinavian State of Futuris is founded.

WWI and WWII: The SSF stays neutral.

1956: Constitutional monarchy is established. The SSF escapes the Iron Curtain.

1968: 2nd Finnish war most probably provoked by communists - final border is set after peace is made in three days.

I will put as much as possible, but there's a lot of information that is unnecessary.
Futuris
08-04-2007, 04:52
I will put as much as possible, but there's a lot of information that is unnecessary.

Yeah, sorry about that. I just wasn't sure what was "enough". Just a few of the main points early on, and then what happens not long ago is probably fine. I like the History of SYAE so far ;)
Granate
08-04-2007, 04:52
Yeah, sorry about that. I just wasn't sure what was "enough". Just a few of the main points early on, and then what happens not long ago is probably fine. I like the History of SYAE so far ;)

SPOILER:

GERMANY LOSES WORLD WAR 1 AND WORLD WAR 2!
Daehanjeiguk
09-04-2007, 19:28
SPOILER:

GERMANY LOSES WORLD WAR 1 AND WORLD WAR 2!

:eek:

I'll make sure to include that!
Marxikhan
19-04-2007, 02:37
hey with my new nation i thought that i would include my breif history


1999 News Years Eve Spainish Revolution Begins(fought between nationalists and anarcho-synd.

2004 Spain becomes a bunch of city states, city states are controlled by anarcho-synd.

2005 France officaily becomes a communist state after finishing their new constitution.


late 2005: Portagual invades Spain, France defends spain and defeats Portagual in Spainish Freedom War

2006 Spain looking for stability, joines the left, anti-authoritarian France, Portagual wich is under French control also joins. They form United Marxika
Daehanjeiguk
19-04-2007, 14:43
hey with my new nation i thought that i would include my breif history


1999 News Years Eve Spainish Revolution Begins(fought between nationalists and anarcho-synd.

2004 Spain becomes a bunch of city states, city states are controlled by anarcho-synd.

2005 France officaily becomes a communist state after finishing their new constitution.


late 2005: Portagual invades Spain, France defends spain and defeats Portagual in Spainish Freedom War

2006 Spain looking for stability, joines the left, anti-authoritarian France, Portagual wich is under French control also joins. They form United Marxika

I've put the first two lines into the history, but you have a little complex history to explain actually - which may or may not change your history.

In SYAE before you joined, Spain and Portugal were already communist, and France was an empire that included the Benelux. Spain and Portugal had deployed troops out to Greece, to help Russia with their Chechnyan problems, while France degenerated and was invaded by both the United Kingdom and Germany. The UK has since long gone away, but Germany remains and continues its troop presence in Alsace-Lorraine, and the Benelux countries. While you have no need to do anything about Benelux (although you can certainly do something about it - it is a "prior" claim, even as you have already established your new state and can't justify wanking the claims at this point), you're going to have to talk to Germany about Alsace and Lorraine.

I've put in the story of the Spanish city-states, but given the history of Spain in this RP, I think that that might change if you so wish it to do so. But otherwise, everything that has already happened in SYAE is already done, so there is little that can be done about it.




Considering this, I'm going to expand the project to include anything that has happened in SYAE after it began, to provide new people with an up-to-date history of the more recent events (and perhaps therefore more important). If anyone can help out, that would be great!
Granate
19-04-2007, 21:14
Although truthfully I was in the Alsace and Lorraine region, but I decided to abandon that idea. My government's position is that the invasion of the Alsace and Lorraine region never happened, even though it did.
Marxikhan
20-04-2007, 00:33
ok then, insted France will also have a revolution, and Portugual will have commys over thrown be4 they attack spain