NationStates Jolt Archive

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As it is in the interest of the Socialist Commonwealth of Wanderjar that Tyler vanStone remain Communist, we insist that the Government reconsider, lest face serious consequences by the New Prussian Wehrmacht.


~Lord Governor Christoph Baker



OOC: By serious consequences I mean military action against you.

A press release from the imperial high command has outlawed communism, any one who declare them self a communist or expresses communist views or sympathy will be declared an enemy of the state.

This decision was made by the emperor today, during the first meeting of the interlink witch has taken over the role of the former parliament.

The emperor stated His total hate of all things communist quoting the emperor "I will root out and
destroy communists there foul breed must be snuffed out.


Imperial soldiers have rounded up the former communist
party 27,000 so far.......they have been relocated to holding camps.

[OOC - Communists are a 'breed' now? I always thought political ideology was chosen, not inherited.]

As much as we loathe communists, we believe that you can believe in what you want as long as its in a proper and peaceful way. From what we have seen these communists have been living peacefully and have not done anything wrong. We condem your emperor's stupidty and Macarthyism. Paranoia is not good for anyone.

James von Strangails, High Leader and Lord Governor of Zackaroth.

Official Diplomatic Communique

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To: Tyler Whatevah'
From: Us

Stop killing the communists, I got ya' a better deal, send them all over to TWSP, else, you'll have to face some serious consequences.

P.S: Angry we didnt want to sell you any guns?

At the Grand Palace, the Prime Minister Briano Sicilo was talking over affairs with the Imperatore while enjoying lunch.

A man in total pure-white, with the whole upper-left part of his chest glimmering in golden medals, walked into the room. Briano stood up to greet him.

"Hello General." he said, raising an eyebrow.

"Hello, Prime Minister." he said confidently.

"What is your business here today?"

"Another rogue state. Calls itself 'Tyler VanStone'. Outalawed commies. Interested?"

He shook his head. "I have enough on my plate as it is, without dealing with some little rogue nation halfway across the world. There's the problem we're having with the growth of the Fascist Party to the south, the revolution in Zambistan, which we aren't taking part in, and of course this business with the nation of The Horned Rat. Whoever named that place needs their head examined, but anyway, there's no way we can take a war right now, especially to fight for rights of people that are usually pur enemies."

"I see." The General said dissapointedly, standing there.

"Good day." Briano pointed to the door, and sat down to begin talking to the Imperatore in Italian about the boost in stocks.

We see your goverment is blinded by faith. While i myself am a Christian i do not let it conflict with my poltics and blind my judgement. You are the kind that give us bad names through out the world. we really suggest you stop killing communists. Your on narrow path here friend.

James von Strangaild, High Leader and Lord Governor of Zackaroth

My nation at this time will not change it's view on communism. communism's godless view WILL not be tolerated



Strength Threw god and government!






{thought a gift of military equipment may change that!}

To: Tyler Vanstone
From: SSHQ govenrment
Subject: "Godless"

We atheists at SSHQ object to the derogatory usage of "godless."

Also, if you are going to try to extort guns, at least don't try it with nations that could crush you without a second thought. We recomment you apologize for the "godless" remark and stop this idiocy or we will be forced to invade.

We'll give you a gift of military equipment, a total of 1,050,000 men all trained and ready for battle. They'll be landing on your shores in a little under two days unless you release the imprisoned communists. Soviet Party, what say you to a plan wherein we land on the south and you take the north?

McPsychoville, We'll be willing to send in a few hundred thousand troops as a "police action" if you wish

My nation at this time will not change it's view on communism. communism's godless view WILL not be tolerated



Strength Threw god and government!






{thought a gift of military equipment may change that!}

Official Response

Are you aware of what are you getting yourself into? We'll give you one last chance, send the communists over to us, and we wont have to take measures.

OOC: He doesn't have to sell to you if he doesn't want to.

I'll hand them over for say.......my order of 100,000 ak74's you refused to sell me. if you agree all the reds in my land will be shipped to you.

Okay, people are worth more than a bunch of guns.

EDIT

Time Warp.

OOC: Nukes Jolt for this annoying bug.

IC:

The nation of SSHQ hereby declares a state of war between Silver Star territories and the "nation" of Tyler VanStone.

A friendly warning:

We'll give you those 100,000 AK-74*s. And attached each one of them will be an able-bodied, and motivated citizen of Ghost Tigers Rise.

They'll also be armed with "The Promise" by When In Rome.
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Armed with this song, they shall be invincible.


*Actually, they'll be carrying a variant on the FN FAL.

I'll hand them over for say.......my order of 100,000 ak74's you refused to sell me. if you agree all the reds in my land will be shipped to you.

So, to summarise, you are happy to trade the lives of men for weapons?

...

...the ETA on the million-strong battalion has just dropped to fourteen hours. It wasn't ever 48 hours, we lied. Psst, also, it's the prerogative of the selling nation to not sell their goods to certain nations.

So, how do we do this? We'll be landing on the south side of the nation, who else will be moving their troops where? We'd best figure out the logistics of this now, see.

OOC: Tyler, you now have 2 naitons invading you with far more force than you can muster, considering defense budgets. Any last words?

IC:

The SSHQ task force set off, carrying 25,000 marines to storm the beaches followed by 100,000 army grunts to secure the area, as was general SSHQ amphibious assault tactics. 500,000 total troops would be deployed. The trip would take about 10 hours...

I'll hand them over for say.......my order of 100,000 ak74's you refused to sell me. if you agree all the reds in my land will be shipped to you.

Okay, people are worth more than a bunch of guns.

EDIT

Time Warp.

QTF.

Problem solved.

OOC:WSP: My nation doesn't know that, so my troops are still en route.

OOC: Tyler, those things don't teleport to you, I'll have hit the beaches before you can use them btw.

>_< Timewarp!

Deal. There yours do with them what you like. as soon as i get my guns.
Thanks

Official World-Wide Communique

They released the communists, they are being sent to my nation as we speak, I ask you refrain from any military actions.
On a side-note, 27,000 people is a lot, so, would anyone be willing to take up some thousands?

Official Diplomatic Telegram:
TO: Socialist States of The World Soviet Party
FROM: People's Republic of Vantanas
The People's Republic will be willing and able to take 7,000 of the communists into our nation. They will have a lovely choice of job options, ranging from military, to mining, to government office.

Official World-Wide Communique

They released the communists, they are being sent to my nation as we speak, I ask you refrain from any military actions.
On a side-note, 27,000 people is a lot, so, would anyone be willing to take up some thousands?

We aren't, and so because of your disgusting record, we're going to invade anyway. T-minus twelve hours. Also, we can provide good homes for any refugees who need homes, just deliver them to one of our ports.

Very kind of you. I'm happy no blood was spilled

The Dominion of Sendersdale and Greater Colonies

-Global Address-

The Dominion is happy that this did not end in a bloodshed. The Senderlian government would be happy to take as many as 2 500 refugees.

They will be given a variety of jobs, and of course, political freedom.

The Dominion of Sendersdale and Greater Colonies

-Global Address-

The Dominion is happy that this did not end in a bloodshed. The Senderlian government would be happy to take as many as 2 500 refugees.

They will be given a variety of jobs, and of course, political freedom.

Thank you, they are being sent right now as we speak.

Official World-Wide Communique

They released the communists, they are being sent to my nation as we speak, I ask you refrain from any military actions.
On a side-note, 27,000 people is a lot, so, would anyone be willing to take up some thousands?
We would gladly support our comrades in The World Soviet Party in sheltering our fellow revolutionaries from this madman, war with New Nicksyllvania notwithstanding. Our congratulations on your effective diplomacy. Name the airports and Il-86s from our national airline Tailskies Air shall arrive to pick up those refugees you cannot handle, with final approach to our country being under the strongest fighter escort (up to and including Su-27 Flankers and/or MiG-31 Foxhounds) we can spare.

Official Diplomatic Telegram:
TO: Socialist States of The World Soviet Party
FROM: People's Republic of Vantanas
The People's Republic will be willing and able to take 7,000 of the communists into our nation. They will have a lovely choice of job options, ranging from military, to mining, to government office.

Thanks, they are being sent right now.

Thank you but no one is going anywhere until i get my guns I also want 50 t-72 tanks. if they fail to show up they all die by hanging
My Army of 620,000 are on hight alert.

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Free the Communists, and bring the to my nation. Refuse, and I shall personally level your entire nation and enslave it. I am not, I say again,not bluffing. I will trade you your life in exchange for these men.


Think wisely.

Thank you but no one is going anywhere until i get my guns I also want 50 t-72 tanks. if they fail to show up they all die by hanging
My Army of 620,000 are on hight alert.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION
TO: Whomever within the Nation of Tyler VanStone
FROM: Mr. Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Affairs
SUBJECT: Military Strength

If you wish to threaten us with your military. How about I threaten you with mine?

I can prepare 1 Company of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps to come barreling down upon your nation. That is a total of 3,750,000 Marines. Do you really want to test the wrath of an Empire such as mine?

Just a note too, There are approximatly 20 Companies in the Shazbotdom Marine Corps.

I am not threatening I am just saying if attacked i will defend. This is between The World Soviet Party and myself

"I don't fucking believe this!" bellowed the man standing on the bridge of the chief troop ship. He held in his hands a communique from HQ back home in Selke City that made for...well, ridiculous reading.

"Commodore Briere? You called?" asked the petty officer, poking his heard around the door.

"Stafford, look at this shit!" Briere cried, thrusting the paper towards the officer. PO Stafford took it and adjusted his glasses as he read.

"...hanging...demand tanks...am I reading this right?" asked Stafford in confusion, to which Commodore Briere nodded.

"They've got a hundred thousand AKs - for free, no fucking less - but now they're threatening to hang the prisoners if they don't get fifty tanks as well! Tell the men to get themselves ready, they're going in hard and fast."

"You couldn't have picked a better time, sir," replied Stafford, looking out of the window. The island of the rogue nation drew closer, the beaches growing darker by the minute.

"Tell the men to tool up, they're going in."

"Already done. And incidentally," the Commodore turned to look at his subaltern, who was grinning nastily, "the squad that brings home the head of the dictator earns a little bonus. He won't survive this mission, I assure you."

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[Out of interest, Tyler, how do you imagine a nation of eight million can maintain an army of 620,000? I'll tell you how - with riots and conscription. Your forces are made of scared recruits who will, most likely, shit themselves when they encounter my army for the first time. If you don't want to surrender, you will be razed. This is not an idle threat, you've acted like such an idiot that it's now justified.]

To McPsychoville
From emperor VanStone

Ok ok ok I see you mean business. I see i got to greedy with the damn tanks. I cannot afford a war
I wish to speak in person with a representative from your nation.

I am willing to give up the 27,000 uneseribles to you
I just wish to meet with a representative to discus terms.

errr sorry

Emperor Tyler VanStone


......

Most of my army are fresh recruits but 100,000 are of the imperial guard the troops i used to take power. They are hardened veterans who will if need be fight to the death and if it comes to war i also have 4 thermo nuclear weapons.

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Free the Communists, and bring the to my nation. Refuse, and I shall personally level your entire nation and enslave it. I am not, I say again,not bluffing. I will trade you your life in exchange for these men.


Think wisely.

Greetings,

Though I remain supportive of one of my oldest allies, I must advise you to take a less drastic course of action. This is a matter of sovereignty and is the business of that nation and that nation alone how they treat their own. Your suggestion of relocation to your nation rather than imprisonment is a great solution to the problem, but, if they refuse, it is still their business, and we should accept their choices.

Most of my army are fresh recruits but 100,000 are of the imperial guard the troops i used to take power. They are hardened veterans who will if need be fight to the death and if it comes to war i also have 4 thermo nuclear weapons.

OOC:
And I have a Missile Defence Shield that can easily shoot down 4 Thermo Nuclear Weapons.

From Emperor Van Stone
To all

take the 27,000 reds I ask nothing in return just take them.
Leave my nation unharmed thats all i ask.



......
i will not use missles

i will not use missles

OOC:
How do you plan on delivering the weapons then? Unless you try and fly planes into the nations but AA defences would take care of you easily.

......
I'm sure a terrorist group would love to get there hands on one

OOC:
My nation doesn't have terrorist organizations. And it'd be hard to get a weapon like that in my nation with how good my shoreline defences and customs are.

Official Statement of the Federation of Oslea

Although pro-democratic, Oslea supports freedom of speech and therefore tolerates Communists. If the nation of the World Soviet Party is still finding homes for their refugees in other nations other than itself Oslea will happily take 1,500 of them and offer them jobs and normal lives.

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Official statement to Tyler VanStone

You are a disgusting dictator.

Let the 27,000 prisoners free, and let them come to the Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbergs and other nations with a normal view of human dignity.

We've warned you once before, and this is our last warning to you. We will not tolerate blackmailing, and if we decide to declare your nation as a terrorist organization we will end this discussion with you as it's against our policy to negotiate with terrorist organizations. We rather take action against terrorists than wasting time on negotiating.

Signed,

Prime Minister
Walter Moltov
The Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Official Clandonian Response

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His Majesty's government is deeply concerned over the threats from communist and socialist states against the sovereign nation of Tyler VanStone. As part of the government policy of defence from the Bolshevik threat we will deploy troops to defend from this menace. Smaller nations such as Silver Star HQ should duly note that their militaristic actions have not gone unnoticed by Clandonia.

As an offer of good will in defence of Tyler VanStone we will send sixty surplus Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters with logistical and support crew for the training.

To the communists, cease your threats now or we shall intervene as a defensive affair.

Lord Protector Sir Philips Hughes

Official Statement from the Honako Commission

Again Honako has seen you venture on to the international stage with something to say that we strongly disagree with. We congratulate you on probably getting a war - attacking communism is not a good idea. We will not take military action but would love to see the end to your dictatorship as you have been annoying us for some time now. Hopefully this can be done without bloodshed, though it seems very unlikely.

Honako Independence Commission

Prime Ministers generally have to look impressive when giving addresses - some people think a strong economy dictates a strong nation, but there is a reason figureheads are designed to look good, after all. A strong-looking head of state sends out a wave of confidence, a message to other nations saying "Don't fuck with us." Prime Minister Erik Strong did not cut an impressive figure at first sight, a man standing at five-six and a little over a hundred pounds soaking wet. But then, when he's provoked, he...well, it's difficult to describe.

He curses a lot.

"Citizens of the Capitalist Republic!" he bellows, staring straight into the myriad cameras recording and broadcasting. "It seems that the VanStone saga has pissed off some people, stuck the proverbial stick up their asses. The bastards in Clandonia Prime are bitching about sovereign rights, and it makes me laugh like that time Petey Lockhart scored on himself trying that fancy shit in the '82 playoffs. You people remember, right? Right."

Realising where he is and, of course, WHO he is, Strong adjusts himself.

"Ahem. Anyway, the Clandonians miss that the dictator decided to kill his way into power, so he gets no sovereign rights and if we felt like it, I'd send all ten of the Ten Units to do a nuclear fucking tap-dance on the island. So...yes, Clandonians can fuck themselves with an iron pole. Although, I LOVE that we're apparently a socialist communist state, the ironing is indeed delicious. So, well, to summarise we're going to blow the VanStone Army to pieces, rip the Hind copters CP have sent their way to shreds and probably curbstomp the dictator himself. We fucking rule, you know? Can I get a fuck yeah?"

No, as it happens, he cannot.

ICCD will provide 100,000 AK74's for the handover the the communist prisoners.

We will be moving two fleets into the nearest available port over the next few weeks your 50 tanks will also be provided. Any attempt to attack our fleets will be met with a nuclear response. If the fleets arrive and you do not deliver we will instead be moving inprison and potentially execute you after trial. If you have any other requests, ICCD has a wonderful line of spirits.

Logothe's Office Casa MIlitar Attache

Exofficio Grand Duke Karl Sandhurst

(OOC:by moving into port, I mean into the area of)

[OOC:...considering you've pretty much caved into his whining, I believe you'll be the next target for an attack, being as how you've chosen to ally with him.]

To Tyler VanStone:

I am afraid I am incapable of aiding you at the moment, but if enemy forces continue an attack on your lands after you have deported all the communists I shall send every soldier I have that is not currently out of comission due to occupation of my nation. I personally have no fight with the communists and beleive that capitalism is a way of giving power to the rich and corrupt. I hope that this predicament can be settled without bloodshed as I see you have pitted yourself against staggering odds (and by that I mean you are fighting cripples with birth defects, ahahahaha, lame joke). For now I have all my active troops on stand by and I have 1500 MAIDS (minor AIDS troopers) ready to be sent at the sign of war.

OOC: sorry, I just cannot stop myself from making lame jokes

IC:

To countries opposing Tyler VanStone:

I hope you can do this without bloodshed, in a better time for my country I would be send all my troops in to have a bit of destructive fun, but now I just ask for a peaceful solution.

To the cramped crammed commie campers:

ello ello!

OH COOL!

proverbial stick! I have a proverbial stick! and a proverbial wall to bang my proverbial head proverbially against :headbang:

OOC: why do some people who joined in 2004 have smaller populations than people who join later on?

OOC: why do some people who joined in 2004 have smaller populations than people who join later on?
OOC: Most likely their nations has been dead for a period (due to inactivity), and then restored. That's the case for my nation (don't know for how long, but somewhere between 6-12 months maybe.

Oh, that makes sense so long as I hear it whilst holding a gargantuan proverbial stick

To Tyler VanStone:


Just send them to me. I will provide transport, load them on my ships.


That is all.

~Lord Governor Christoph Baker

To Tyler VanStone:

I beleive I shall soon be capable of mobilising all of my troops if it becomes necessary.

The Fleet of Wanderjarian Transport ships arrived, escorted by a Battlefleet of two Carriers, some twenty Lord Class Battleships, numerous cruisers, and nine Destroyers. If any foul play was attempted whilst the Wanderjarians were evacuating the civillians, there would be hell to pay.


***MESSAGE TO VANSTONE***



My ships are here, allow them to board and be sent to my nation.

Thank you but no one is going anywhere until i get my guns I also want 50 t-72 tanks. if they fail to show up they all die by hanging
My Army of 620,000 are on hight alert.

Dont push your luck, youngling, now hand over the communists to the Wanderjarian Navy at your shores, and we'll all be able to forget this ever happened.

Official Response to Clandonia Prime

Oh just shut up, we're protecting these people's right to life.

Official Clandonian Response

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McPsychoville you have now taken this to the next level, the threat of attacking Clandonian helicopters with Clandonian service personal on the ground is seen by the United Kingdom as a provocation for war. Your wording of telling the 'Clandonians can fuck themselves with an iron pole' is deeply insulting and we demand an immediate apology over that disgusting remark. If you have to take it to the level of immature childish squablings no wonder your nation is such a wreck.

To aid in the defence of Tyler VanStone it has been decided by His Majesty's government to deploy a naval fleet under the command of Admiral Dintronich. It has been authorised in the Parliamentary vote of the 15th of March Clandonian calender year of 2007 that the United Kingdom supports Tyler VanStone in its sovereign right to decide the laws of their own lands.

To The World Soviet Party, you no longer have any voice of opinion on this government. It should be reminded if the air crash investigation concludes that those two aircraft were shot by hostile elements then severe action will be undertaken.


Lord Protector Sir Philips Hughes


Admiral Dintronich's Fleet

18x Carriers: 8x Nimitz Class Aircraft carrier, 10x Champion Class Supercarriers

28x Cruisers: 8x Slava Class Missile Cruiser, 12x Kirov Class Battlecruiser, 8x Ticonderoga Class CG

24x Assault Ships: 8xWasp Class (Landing Craft), 16x Albion class Landing Assault Craft

72x Destroyers: 40x Type 23 Duke class Destroyer, 32x Type 45 Daring class Destroyer

28x Submarines: 8x Astute Class SSN Submarine, 20x Typhoon-Dankseran Class Nuclear Submarine, 8x Super-Danskeran Class Nuclear Submarines

200x Harrier GR9

350x F-35A JSF

280x Merlin ASW Helicopters

260x S-70B-2 Seahawk Helicopter

To Clandonia Prime Government:


If that fleet of yours comes within ten miles of mine, I shall not hesitate to destroy it. That will be viewed as an act of war by you. Keep your distance.

To invading armies
From emperor VanStone

I"ll give up the reds for nothing just don't invade my nation.


To Clandonia Prime
From Emperor VanStone

thank you for you help in these darkest of times.
I have offered to give up my communist prisoners for nothing yet still that advance upon my nation.

Your help is a godsend
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To Strator
From Emperor VanStone

Any help you can spare would be of great value. If this last bout of diplomacy fails war is inevitable
I have offered to give up the communists for nothing yet still they seek an unjust war witch will lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands!

Encoded

Official Clandonian Response

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His Majesty's government will not bow to down to the demands of some intervening Bolsheviks. Your fleet is not welcome here leave now and cease your hassling of free, sovereign, capitalist states. Wandejar, your fleets will be decimated by the Royal Clandonian Navy if you even do as such to stray a yard into the territorial waters of Tyler VanStone then it will be taken as a pre-emptive strike. You should realise before you engage your usual heavy lifted socialist approach to such complex matters of diplomatic negotiation, threatening to destroy a neutral nations naval forces is not a good idea.

Clandonian transport units from the 136th Strategical Heavy Lift Squadron will deploy to Tyler VanStone to deliver the helicopters and provide training and support.

God Save the King.



Prime Minister David Sistilin

We'd be interested to see the response of Clandonia Prime to our continued push into the nation - as far as we know, the only thing they have capable of even attacking our men are the helicopters, and previous tests suggest that the BM60 heavy assault rifle is more than able to turn the average Seahawk into so much scrap metal. It might be a little harder ventilating your Harriers, but that's why a number of BM98 surface-to-air shoulder-mounted missile launchers (better known among the men and patrons of the BMC as "Jethro") are available for use. It's standard operating procedure, after all, always equip your men with anything they might need. That way, things can never go wrong.

OOC: Err the fleet post was more of the OOC sort.... But I never heard of a assault rifle that can down helicopters, even for custom designs that's pretty wanky...

You Will not take the 27,000 reds and leave peacefully?

Smaller nations such as Silver Star HQ should duly note that their militaristic actions have not gone unnoticed by Clandonia.

So you consider larger nations to be above the bar but consider "smaller" nations like mine to be forced to confirm to your regulations? If that isn't seen as bullying, then what is?


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"Stop the fleet!" the admiral ordered. Apparently the VanStones had released the prisoners. "We'll be going to Stratorian shores instead. Apparently they have some idea of "mobilizing" against us. I'd like to see them get through our fleet..."

Official Clandonian Response

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To Silver Star HQ, Your efforts against Strator are to be applauded but your eager use of military force will not earn you a welcome reputation.

McPsychoville, we suggest your childish blaberings should end. We unlike some of the others here are not barbarians and wish this to end via the diplomatic route. The communist prisoners can be transferred if need be by Clandonian transport if they wish to leave Tyler VanStone.

God save the King.



Prime Minister David Sistilin

To all nations involved:

While Zackaroth has condemed the nation at hand we are willing to stop the bloodshed by sending a netural unarmed transport vessel and hand over the communist to each respective nation.

James von Strangaild, High Leader and Lord Governer of Zackaroth.

Clandonia Prime will transport the reds

The Dominion of Sendersdale and Greater Colonies

To:
Tyler VanStone

Our nation has been watching the events surrounding your country develop.

We are currently sending 4 Forgiving Hospital Class ships. These ships can each handle up to 1 250 patients/passengers. The ships contains no ordanance of anykind. With your permission, we would wish to transport up to 5 000 communists out of your country before the situation escalates further, and if possible make a return trip for another 5 000.

Signed,

Franklin Goosland
Franklin James Goosland, PC, OMM, SD, BA, B.Sc., MP
Minister of Defense

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION
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TO: Foreign Affairs Departments of All Nations Involved
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor

As my nation still does not agree with the policies of the Nation of Tyler VanStone, we will only use military force if, and only if, the Nation of Tyler VanStone uses military force against the Dark Empire.

It will be then, and only then, when we will use our military might against the Nation of Tyler VanStone.

fine take them

Official Clandonian Response

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To Silver Star HQ, Your efforts against Strator are to be applauded but your eager use of military force will not earn you a welcome reputation.

McPsychoville, we suggest your childish blaberings should end. We unlike some of the others here are not barbarians and wish this to end via the diplomatic route. The communist prisoners can be transferred if need be by Clandonian transport if they wish to leave Tyler VanStone.

God save the King.



Prime Minister David Sistilin



Well, sorry if we value 27,000 people more than a psycoting reign.

OOC: Rifles firing can take town a heli. They are pretty exposed. It's happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. if anything you could kill/heavily wound the pilot(s)

It seems that some nations have completely ignored what our objectives really are. This issue ceased to be about the communist prisoners the moment Dictator VanStone demanded weaponry and armour in exchange for their lives - at that point, it became a matter of international extortion. The tensions were only exacerbated further when the Dictator attempted to head off the impending invasion by boasting about the frankly quite unnatural size of his nation's armed forces. We do not kindly to being threatened, and most especially not by someone of the dubious moral qualities the Dictator has displayed.

Further, we would point that your entry into this theatre is in itself flawed. You claim to be defending the Dictator's sovereignity, but the sovereignity of the nation evaporated when the previous, democratic government was dissolved in a military coup. We remind you that nobody is forcing you to be here; our mission is for the head of the Dictator, nothing else will suffice. If you choose to remain here, you will be treated as an ally of the military junta and afforded none of the privileges we extend to true sovereign nations.

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OOC: Err the fleet post was more of the OOC sort.... But I never heard of a assault rifle that can down helicopters, even for custom designs that's pretty wanky...

OOC: It's more of a heavy support weapon than a rifle, definitely not the sort of thing I'd throw out to every man in the army; the "official" classification is assault rifle, but it's not like an AK replacement that can destroy copters. I can't remember exactly what I based it on, but I believe it was one of the weapons in the Soldier of Fortune games. I'll see if I can dredge up the information. If not, then you can disregard that statement, we'll just go with the SMSAM launchers.

[CENTER]Official Clandonian Response
To Silver Star HQ, Your efforts against Strator are to be applauded but your eager use of military force will not earn you a welcome reputation.

Official Czardaian Statement

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (pant, pant) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

~ The Czardaian Foreign Ministry.

The Dominion of Sendersdale and Greater Colonies
Senderlian High Command
Senderlian Armed Forces

To:
Tyler VanStone

Our four Forgiving Class Hospital Ships are now in your waters and ready to pick up the first of 5 000 refugees. Two Lancaster Class Frigates await outside of your waters. These two ships are there to protect only the refugees and the four hospital ships docked in your country.

Signed,

Franklin Goosland
Franklin James Goosland, PC, OMM, SD, BA, B.Sc., MP
Minister of Defense

To The World Soviet Party, you no longer have any voice of opinion on this government. It should be reminded if the air crash investigation concludes that those two aircraft were shot by hostile elements then severe action will be undertaken.


That's what you think, we dont want to invade him nor engage in military action, we just want to take the refugees and leave.
Oh, and him to stop trying to extorsionate us.
We're not afraid of you.

To invading armies
From emperor VanStone

I"ll give up the reds for nothing just don't invade my nation.


We wont invade you, just hand us the communists.

You Will not take the 27,000 reds and leave peacefully?

Yes, we will.

Clandonia Prime will transport the reds

No he wont, he'll probably take them back to the backwards hell-hole his nation is and the use them as slave labour before hanging them.

Now, hand us the refugees, and we'll go on our merry way.

Official Czardaian Statement

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (pant, pant) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

~ The Czardaian Foreign Ministry.

Official SSHQ Statement

Cut down on the sugar, it's not good for you.

Seriously, do you know these guys? Them warning you against over-eager military action is like Maximus III warning you against the dangers of religion. And we're within our rights to laugh at a third world hellhole where 6% of the population can read and the government spends trillions building submarines that'll fall apart in three minutes with money it could be using to stop millions of poor people from piling up in the streets each day.

~ Czardaian Foreign Ministry.


OOC: Sorry, thought you were laughing at me :rolleyes:

Official Clandonian Response

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The United Kingdom would be happy to take the communist prisoners away. They would be looked after well and through education they would see the errors of their ways. The benefits of capitalism clearly rival any sort of socialist or Keynesian mixed system. We are ready to take the 27,000 people as we have the logistical capacity to achieve such a large scale movement.
To The World Soviet Party, Clandonia doesn't go around putting people into slave labour or hang them, we are a free and sovereign nation. Your impression of Clandonia is slightly dated or so it seems.



Lord Protector Sir Philips Hughes

Official SSHQ Statement

Cut down on the sugar, it's not good for you.

Seriously, do you know these guys? Them warning you against over-eager military action is like Maximus III warning you against the dangers of religion. And we're within our rights to laugh at a third world hellhole where 6% of the population can read and the government spends trillions building submarines that'll fall apart in three minutes with money it could be using to stop millions of poor people from piling up in the streets each day.

~ Czardaian Foreign Ministry.

Official Clandonian Response

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The United Kingdom would be happy to take the communist prisoners away. They would be looked after well and through education they would see the errors of their ways. The benefits of capitalism clearly rival any sort of socialist or Keynesian mixed system. We are ready to take the 27,000 people as we have the logistical capacity to achieve such a large scale movement.
To The World Soviet Party, Clandonia doesn't go around putting people into slave labour or hang them, we are a free and sovereign nation. Your impression of Clandonia is slightly dated or so it seems.



Lord Protector Sir Philips Hughes


Official Soviet Response

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wait, seriously, education? When only 6% of your population knows how to read, well looked after with no health-care system? Really?

Nah, you must be joking.

Seriously, do you know these guys? Them warning you against over-eager military action is like Maximus III warning you against the dangers of religion. And we're within our rights to laugh at a third world hellhole where 6% of the population can read and the government spends trillions building submarines that'll fall apart in three minutes with money it could be using to stop millions of poor people from piling up in the streets each day.

~ Czardaian Foreign Ministry.

OOC: I'm trusting that you're laughing at Tyler VanStone and Clandonia Prime.



IC:


REPLY TO CP:


You're threatening of the Kriegsmarine is insignificant. You're military spending rates are so below that of my nation, as is your capacity to field and adequately equip troops for battle is so below mine, that I should laugh at you. Attack my nation, and I will wipe you from beneath my iron boot. If you care to look, you're defense budget is about 2 Trillion. Mine, however, is about 18.5 Trillion. You have a population of 1.1 Billion. I have a population of 2.28 Billion, a little over twice as many as you. My military, at 30 Million, consists of highly motivated volunteers. You're army, of potentially some 60 Million at the most, would be of conscripts, of which many are without weapons or ammunition, and have little to no training, and no motivation. See the difference? In battle, against me, you have very little hope of victory. Save face, and leave with dignity.


~Lord Governor Christoph Baker


TO Tyler VanStone:


You saw what I did to Strator, I can easily do the same to you. My ships are at the docks. Send the refugees to my ships where they will be peacefully brought back to my nation, and we can rediscuss that alliance you proposed earlier. I shall pretend that this entire event never occured.


~Lord Governor Christoph Baker

OOC: Sorry, thought you were laughing at me :rolleyes:Considering that I quoted a post by Clandonia Prime, headed "Official Clandonian Response", I'm not sure how you got that impression, but I'll let it slide.

Anyway, for anyone who's worried that I've lost my sanity, this is the way Czardas has been for millennia past, so the best way to respond is through equal silliness.

Considering that I quoted a post by Clandonia Prime, headed "Official Clandonian Response", I'm not sure how you got that impression, but I'll let it slide.

Anyway, for anyone who's worried that I've lost my sanity, this is the way Czardas has been for millennia past, so the best way to respond is through equal silliness.

OOC: I like it. It was appropriate and well used. Therefore, you are cool in my book. :cool:

OOC: I like it. It was appropriate and well used. Therefore, you are cool in my book. :cool: Well, we subsequently felt the need to chew you out for making silly statements as well, but thanks, sorta. <.< >.>



REPLY TO CP:


You're threatening of the Kriegsmarine is insignificant. You're military spending rates are so below that of my nation, as is your capacity to field and adequately equip troops for battle is so below mine, that I should laugh at you. Attack my nation, and I will wipe you from beneath my iron boot. If you care to look, you're defense budget is about 2 Trillion. Mine, however, is about 18.5 Trillion. You have a population of 1.1 Billion. I have a population of 2.28 Billion, a little over twice as many as you. My military, at 30 Million, consists of highly motivated volunteers. You're army, of potentially some 60 Million at the most, would be of conscripts, of which many are without weapons or ammunition, and have little to no training, and no motivation. See the difference? In battle, against me, you have very little hope of victory. Save face, and leave with dignity.


~Lord Governor Christoph Baker


And we have a military budget of 217 trillion dollars, and 600 million soldiers who've been trained for 10 years and are really highly motivated and have top-notch equipment and lots and lots of ships and airplanes and stuff! So back down before we attack you just 'cause we want some target practice!

See how ridiculous that sounded? You're doing exactly the same thing. Comparing numbers isn't going to get you anywhere. Hell, we technically have a larger military budget than, say, Doomingsland, but who do you think would win if we decided to go off and fight the Doomani in our current state? Think before you embark on the kind of penis comparisons national leaders seem to be so fond of these days.

~ The Czardaian Foreign Ministry.
(If you haven't guessed it yet, the Czardaian Foreign Minister is a woman.)

Official Clandonian Response

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To Wandejar, You are mistaken about 'wiping our nation from your boot', our geographical location means any potential invasion of the United Kingdom would be suicide passing through the various routes into the Haven. Sovereign League and Anti Communist Treaty Organisation members would not take gladly to a communist fleet floating around. Clandonian spending is not at the levels of your suppose intelligence, we have no idea where you got such figures from. As for our training again your knowledge is wrong, typical of a communist nation and its poor education of its intelligence officers.

It is not our military but yours that will be laid as a wreck on the bottom of the ocean.



Lord Protector Sir Philips Hughes

Official Soviet Response

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wait, seriously, education? When only 6% of your population knows how to read, well looked after with no health-care system? Really?

Nah, you must be joking.

If TWSP says is true, we wonder how the hell CP keeps an army? While it does not take a smart man to fire gun it does take one to navigate a ship, fire a rocket, pliot an aircraft, and etc.Does that 6% percent make up his army? This has us very confused.

James von Strangaild. Lord Governor of Zackaroth.

If TWSP says is true, we wonder how the hell CP keeps an army? While it does not take a smart man to fire gun it does take one to navigate a ship, fire a rocket, pliot an aircraft, and etc.Does that 6% percent make up his army? This has us very confused.

James von Strangaild. Lord Governor of Zackaroth.

You bring up a good point, Im just quoting what Prime Minister Sistilin said though.

Czardas: Learn how to fight a war. Study and learn it. Then you will realize that my arguments are true. The things i've listed are the only things which matter in combat: Numbers, skill, training, and amount spent on them by parent Government.


I know you're statements were made in character, and I don't hold that against you OOC. But in all seriousness, think about it. I know war, I know what it takes to fight one.

Czardas: Learn how to fight a war. Study and learn it. Then you will realize that my arguments are true. The things i've listed are the only things which matter in combat: Numbers, skill, training, and amount spent on them by parent Government.

I know you're statements were made in character, and I don't hold that against you OOC. But in all seriousness, think about it. I know war, I know what it takes to fight one.

Tactics.

I win.

Logistics.

I win again.

Czardas: Learn how to fight a war. Study and learn it. Then you will realize that my arguments are true. The things i've listed are the only things which matter in combat: Numbers, skill, training, and amount spent on them by parent Government.
Are 'tactics' and 'strategy' in your vocabulary at all, pray tell? Or 'logistics'?

I know you're statements were made in character, and I don't hold that against you OOC. But in all seriousness, think about it. I know war, I know what it takes to fight one.

So how many years did you serve?

You don't need to serve in the Military to know how to fight a war, but it helps.
Let's see for me its:
Morale
Logistics
Tactics
Strategy
Skill
Training
Weapons
Tech
Numbers
Air Superiority
Nukes
etc.

Czardas: Learn how to fight a war. Study and learn it. Then you will realize that my arguments are true. The things i've listed are the only things which matter in combat: Numbers, skill, training, and amount spent on them by parent Government.


I know you're statements were made in character, and I don't hold that against you OOC. But in all seriousness, think about it. I know war, I know what it takes to fight one.

Chris, Your Wrong. I expected better =/

Are 'tactics' and 'strategy' in your vocabulary at all, pray tell? Or 'logistics'?


So how many years did you serve?


I was going to write up something different, yet TPF knows me too well. I'll conceed defeat rather than continue to argue. I apologize.

I can read you like a book, dear friend. Get on MSN, would ya?

Alright, but I can only be on for about a minute

I was going to write up something different, yet TPF knows me too well. I'll conceed defeat. I apologize.

I can read you like a book, dear friend. Get on MSN, would ya?

You bring up a good point, Im just quoting what Prime Minister Sistilin said though.

Official Clandonian Response

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Under the Clandonian One Nation plan, literacy rates will be projected to rise to 84% by the end of the first four years. If you refer the paper report published on One Nation plans here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520519) then you will see the proposed changes put forward to use government funds to help people help themselves. A 'Hand up, not a hand out' style system will improve the quality of life for those of more disadvantaged backgrounds. People who can not afford private education institutions will be offered schooling from the age of four to fourteen. After this period they will be offered the choice of military service or to proceed into the workplace.



Lord Protector Sir Philips Hughes

A 'Hand up, not a hand out' style system will improve the quality of life for those of more disadvantaged backgrounds. People who can not afford private education institutions will be offered schooling from the age of four to fourteen. After this period they will be offered the choice of military service or to proceed into the workplace. [/FONT]


"Disadvantaged backgrounds"? You mean the 97.7% of your country who dont own shit?
The 97.7% that is owned by the 2.3% who own 96.7% of Clandonia Prime?

One would guess it would take more than a mere four years.

Moantha Today

Page A Three, Bull's Eye Column
Rupert Bull

The Clandonian nation recently shocked absolutely no one who has been following their role in world affairs by attempting to use other, larger, and more militarily powerful nations as a shield. The lucky nations this time included the Sovereign League, the Anti Communist Treaty Organization (which, according to several members, is neither a treaty, nor an organization), and the entire region of Haven.

What may come as something more of a surprise is the Clandonian advice to The Silver Star HQ that eager use of military force would not earn them a welcome reputation. The official Czardian statement of "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (pant, pant) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!" Represents this reporters opinion on that.

For once, Clandonia Prime cannot be seen as the only nation at fault. The blame lies at least equally with the Global Union of Socialist Nations, who demanded that a nation with the unfortunate name of 'Tyler VanStone' instead of executing political prisoners turned them over to members of that said Union. This in itself is not exceptional, although a good example of nations interfering in foreign politics by military might. However, even after Tyler VanStone agreed to turn over said prisoners, the GUSN continued to issue demands that they do so, under penalty of invasion.

Throw in a promise of military action by a slave trading state, some posturing, and a dash of genitalia comparison, and you have a recipe for war. Let's hope cooler heads compare, or at least enjoy the fireworks.

To Invading forces
From Mr.VanStone

Ok Wanderjar,McPsychoville,The World Soviet Party Take them! Split them up equally, if you leave my nation in peace I will.......reconstitute the communist party and leave them be.

sound good? you've proved your point

VS

You do not have to reinstitute anything, just allow us the prisoners. That is all we want.



OOC: JUst RP them boarding my vessels.

The Peoples Freedom is disappointed by Mr. Van Stone giving in to these godless commies.

OOC: What the hell man? He was imprisoning them for having a belief! I'm giving them a chance of peace and freedom within my (or anywhere they so choose to go, borders. Thats it. You're my damn ally!

To Invading forces
From Mr.VanStone

Ok Wanderjar,McPsychoville,The World Soviet Party Take them! Split them up equally, if you leave my nation in peace I will.......reconstitute the communist party and leave them be.

sound good? you've proved your point

VS

The Peoples Freedom is disappointed by Mr. Van Stone giving in to these godless commies.

To Invading forces
From Mr.VanStone

There at the docks at port Stillwater waiting for your ships
there all yours. I have only but one company guarding them to make sure they board

know leave in peace as agreed

To Invading forces
From Mr.VanStone

Ok Wanderjar,McPsychoville,The World Soviet Party Take them! Split them up equally, if you leave my nation in peace I will.......reconstitute the communist party and leave them be.

sound good? you've proved your point

VS

Maybe our allies have seen their point proven, but as we've said before, this is just the latest atrocity and the straw that broke the spiderplush's back. First murdering the true leaders of the nation, then using a terrorist incident to justify destroying diplomacy, then persecuting people for political beliefs and finally...trying to extort tanks and weaponry for lives.

No, no. We don't believe your claims for your second, and, as we've said before, our troops have been ordered to take your head to renumerate our cost of this mission.

To invader
From Mr.VanStone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2aUJF3gdog

Is there no way war can be avoided? I will pay for your trouble.

Moantha Today

Page A Three, Bull's Eye Column
Rupert Bull

The Clandonian nation recently shocked absolutely no one who has been following their role in world affairs by attempting to use other, larger, and more militarily powerful nations as a shield. The lucky nations this time included the Sovereign League, the Anti Communist Treaty Organization (which, according to several members, is neither a treaty, nor an organization), and the entire region of Haven.

What may come as something more of a surprise is the Clandonian advice to The Silver Sky HQ that eager use of military force would not earn them a welcome reputation. The official Czardian statement of "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (pant, pant) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!" Represents this reporters opinion on that.

For once, Clandonia Prime cannot be seen as the only nation at fault. The blame lies at least equally with the Global Union of Socialist Nations, who demanded that a nation with the unfortunate name of 'Tyler VanStone' instead of executing political prisoners turned them over to members of that said Union. This in itself is not exceptional, although a good example of nations interfering in foreign politics by military might. However, even after Tyler VanStone agreed to turn over said prisoners, the GUSN continued to issue demands that they do so, under penalty of invasion.

Throw in a promise of military action by a slave trading state, some posturing, and a dash of genitalia comparison, and you have a recipe for war. Let's hope cooler heads compare, or at least enjoy the fireworks.

Official Diplomatic Communique

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To: Mr. Rupert Bull; Moantha Today
From: The World Soviet Party

Mr. Bull, I am writing to you after reading your latest article, and to let you know that I wholehearteadly agree. However, I like to clarify the GUSN's stance on the matter.
See, we had reached an agreement with the nation of Tyler VanStone, he'd give us the people in exchange for 100,000 AK-74s, which were handed to him. But, he refused to let the prisioners go and demanded more weapons. Of course we refused and told him to, well, "shove it".
This caused the nation of Clandonia Prime to step in, meanwhile, TVS decided to give us the prisioners, then changed it's mine about... 5 times. Thus, every time he changed his mind, we had to remind him of our deal.
That's it, keep on with your good work.

Signed,
Alejandro Aszenmil, President of The World Soviet Party.

Moantha Today

Page A Three, Bull's Eye Column
Rupert Bull

The Clandonian nation recently shocked absolutely no one who has been following their role in world affairs by attempting to use other, larger, and more militarily powerful nations as a shield. The lucky nations this time included the Sovereign League, the Anti Communist Treaty Organization (which, according to several members, is neither a treaty, nor an organization), and the entire region of Haven.

What may come as something more of a surprise is the Clandonian advice to The Silver Sky HQ that eager use of military force would not earn them a welcome reputation. The official Czardian statement of "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (pant, pant) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!" Represents this reporters opinion on that.

For once, Clandonia Prime cannot be seen as the only nation at fault. The blame lies at least equally with the Global Union of Socialist Nations, who demanded that a nation with the unfortunate name of 'Tyler VanStone' instead of executing political prisoners turned them over to members of that said Union. This in itself is not exceptional, although a good example of nations interfering in foreign politics by military might. However, even after Tyler VanStone agreed to turn over said prisoners, the GUSN continued to issue demands that they do so, under penalty of invasion.

Throw in a promise of military action by a slave trading state, some posturing, and a dash of genitalia comparison, and you have a recipe for war. Let's hope cooler heads compare, or at least enjoy the fireworks.


OOC: Silver Star, not Silver Sky. Also, I'll point out again that Strator has to get through my fleet and all the beach defenses I captured first.

To SSHQ:

You do not really beleive that whilst attacking Tyler VanStone, you can successfully stop me from passing your barricades, my nation is only slightly smaller than yours and you would need a considerable size advantage to take attack from two fronts. I beleive if I went to war with you, that without allies I could defeat your nation. My troops will rip right through your barricades and defences.

OOC: I have more than twice your pop when you factor in the territory of Cathago Nova. Also, the fleet I was sending to VanStone just arrived to reenforce my other fleet. Additionally, I have control of all the beach defenses. And if you got through all that there's the Wanderjar fleet on your flank.

OOC: I have more than twice your pop when you factor in the territory of Cathago Nova.
OOC: Is that a puppet of yours? If that's the case it's called "Puppet Wanking", and is not a very popular RP-style.
If that's not the case, you can just ignore this post (which I posted in all kindness just to inform you what Puppet Wanking is, if you didn't know that).

OOC: I have more than twice your pop when you factor in the territory of Cathago Nova. Also, the fleet I was sending to VanStone just arrived to reenforce my other fleet. Additionally, I have control of all the beach defenses. And if you got through all that there's the Wanderjar fleet on your flank.

Check your TGs.

OOC: Is that a puppet of yours? If that's the case it's called "Puppet Wanking", and is not a very popular RP-style.
If that's not the case, you can just ignore this post (which I posted in all kindness just to inform you what Puppet Wanking is, if you didn't know that).

Nope, I annexed it at the request of the (formerly) oppressed peoples. Not a puppet.

WSP, TG'd back.

With the release of the communist prisoners, and the Dictator VanStone in the custody of his oppressed peoples, our force will leave your shores. We will naturally keep watch on your political situation, but we look to the future in the hope that democracy will rise once again.