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The Union of Militaristic and Industrious Nations
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This Union is meant to create a haven for the worlds military and industrious superpowers to cooperate and attempt to improve the world we live in. In this Union, Treaties will be forged, trade will increace between member nations. And hopefully wars between member nations will be all together ended. I, the President of Ebea, am the first to join this Union. I hope others will soon follow. A leader of the Union will be elected when 15 delegates from other nations put forth that they wish to join the UMIN.

Thank you,
President Rebintrov of Ebea,
Founder of the UMIN

Once enough nations have joined, and a leader of the UMIN has been elected we will set about forming Union policy. And trade regulations. So don't worry, this isn't like other Unions, you will actually have a say in its formation.

bump

bumpty

the federation may join

the federation may join

The federation may join? Are you saying you might join, or are you asking to join?

i might join is what i ment

i might join is what i ment

Okay. Anything that you think needs to be changed, added, or deleted to make this better. Or more appealing.

The Nation of Zachyd

To- Whom it may concern

The Dictatorship of Zachyd wishes to join this union

I welcome all nations who wish to join. Elections will take place when the minimum of 15 members have joined. I will post the immediate positions shortly. As the founder of this Union I will abstain from this election until the first term has been served then I will run for office in this Union.

OOC: The title sounds like something from Civilization 4 :p

Err, what do you do, exactly?

The major positions that need to be filled in this Union are as follows:

Superintendent General
Secratary General
Secratary of the Union
Secratary of Foreign Relations

There others, but I am working on them now. Please be patient. At the moment however these are the most critical positions that need to be filled so this may be an affective union.

OOC: The title sounds like something from Civilization 4 :p

Err, what do you do, exactly?

It is a simple Union for the worlds powerful nations to set common economic policy and promote world security.

It is a simple Union for the worlds powerful nations to set common economic policy and promote world security.
A union of militaristic nations has as one of its goals to promote world security? :confused:

A union of militaristic nations has as one of its goals to promote world security? :confused:

Militaristic meaning they have a strong military. With a strong military they can help protect world security.

To President Rebintrov of Ebea:

We, the Federation of Alyawulof, seek to know if new nations like us can in any way participate in the workings of this proposed Union, and in what way we can possibly benefit or contribute to it. We, as a new nation, seek to establish strong and numerous connections such that we may grow in tandem with other developing nations

Signed,
Alyawulfian Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Armand Dyestye

To President Rebintrov of Ebea:

We, the Federation of Alyawulof, seek to know if new nations like us can in any way participate in the workings of this proposed Union, and in what way we can possibly benefit or contribute to it. We, as a new nation, seek to establish strong and numerous connections such that we may grow in tandem with other developing nations

Signed,
Alyawulfian Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Armand Dyestye

Union of Militaristic and Industrious Nations
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I am truly glad that the Federation of Alyawulof seeks to join the UMIN. With you as our newest member; we are well on our way to becoming a powerful Union. Your nation can contribute by sending a couple divisions of you armed forces to participate in the World Military Parade that will be taking place once the Union has a strong foundation. More immediatly though is the need for funds; so what ever you can contribute money-wise, will be greatly appreciated.

Signed,
Temporary Secretary of Foreign Affairs for the UMIN
Jacob Manicof

President Rebintrov of Ebea,
Founder of UMIN

bump. (waiting for a diplomatic response from Alyawulof)

hopeful bump. :)

Official Statement From 'The Honako Indpendence Commission'

We're kinda interested, but want to know more. Sorry if you have already explained this but we don't understand or it wasn't in detail - we don't really know much about this alliance. Our nation is large military wise, but industrially is not as we try to look after our environment. Also, this doesn't have any secret hidden agendas to take over the world or use force randomly does it? ...

Official Statement From 'The Honako Indpendence Commission'

We're kinda interested, but want to know more. Sorry if you have already explained this but we don't understand or it wasn't in detail - we don't really know much about this alliance. Our nation is large military wise, but industrially is not as we try to look after our environment. Also, this doesn't have any secret hidden agendas to take over the world or use force randomly does it? ...

No, really I don't want small nations in this Union, I want large superpowers (like yourself) so we can implement common foreign and economic policy around the world. It is place where the world powers can come together and decide the fate of nations.

No hidden agenda's to take over the world. But we will use force to exterminate any and all threats to the national security of each member nation. And the security of the Union as a whole.

In All Honour and Respect
To President Rebintrov of Ebea:

I, on behalf of the Alyawulfian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, expresses concern over the Union's desire for "larger superpowers". The Federation is indeed interested but is concerned that its population of five million indicates that we are by no means a "large superpower" currently. Still, we are willing to offer the vast reserves that we have inherited from the ancient kingdom that once dominated the land upon which our Motherland is built, but under the condition that the Union permits our nation to observe the Union's activities for three months before deciding the proper course of action and contribution.


Signed
Alyawulfian Minister of Foreign Affairs
Armand Dyestye

OOC: "In All Honour and Respect" is an Alyawulfian convention for opening formal letters. Also, despite the nation's name being "Alyawulof", the adjectivial form is "Alyawulfian", omitting the intermittent "-o-". This is solely for the facilitation of pronunciation.

In All Honour and Respect
To President Rebintrov of Ebea:

I, on behalf of the Alyawulfian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, expresses concern over the Union's desire for "larger superpowers". The Federation is indeed interested but is concerned that its population of five million indicates that we are by no means a "large superpower" currently. Still, we are willing to offer the vast reserves that we have inherited from the ancient kingdom that once dominated the land upon which our Motherland is built, but under the condition that the Union permits our nation to observe the Union's activities for three months before deciding the proper course of action and contribution.


Signed
Alyawulfian Minister of Foreign Affairs
Armand Dyestye

OOC: "In All Honour and Respect" is an Alyawulfian convention for opening formal letters. Also, despite the nation's name being "Alyawulof", the adjectivial form is "Alyawulfian", omitting the intermittent "-o-". This is solely for the facilitation of pronunciation.

To Alyawulfian Minister of Foreign Affairs
Armand Dyestye

I agree to your conditions. You may observe the Unions activities, but not for three months, you will have observed the actions of six Superintendent Generals by then (each term is 2 weeks real time) and that is a breach in Union Security, you may observe for a month then make your decision.

Thank you,
Temporary Secretary of Foreign Affairs for the UMIN
Jacob Manicof

President Rebintrov of Ebea,
Founder of UMIN

(OCC: the Superintendent is the highest ranking position in the Union)

Moantha Today

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Rupert Bull
First off, as my eagle eyed readers may have noticed, I'm one step closer to top billing, having climbed a page number. Now, on to business. The nation of Ebea has recently formed a new alliance called the Union of Militaristic and Industrious Nations, which supposedly is a place for industrial and military superpowers to try and create world security.

Given that Ebea is, in fact a puny nation, this seems somewhat suspect. The Union was joined by several less insignificant nations, but still seems a good ways away from becoming at all important in world affairs. Thank goodness. Who needs another GASN or Corporate Alliance?

Let me rephrase, this union is for those nations that have a strong military and industrial complex.

Hotdogs2 has only scorn for this alliance, there are no rules of membership it seems and the founder, Blasphemous Priest, is a completely ignorant of the fact that their nation is a small blip on the map of only 32million people, our army alone outnumbers this nation, let alone our navy and air force.

We therefore look down on any nation joining this "union", it seems that it is simply a way for Blasphemous Priest to ensure their nation is safe from the more evil members of our world. However we deem this as completely unnecessary as by joining any number of alliance this would have been ensured.

We dislike hypocrites, especially of the type or are small but use those who are stronger than them to protect them.

Moantha Today

Page A Two, Bull's Eye Column
Rupert Bull
First off, as my eagle eyed readers may have noticed, I'm one step closer to top billing, having climbed a page number. Now, on to business. The nation of Ebea has recently formed a new alliance called the Union of Militaristic and Industrious Nations, which supposedly is a place for industrial and military superpowers to try and create world security.

Given that Ebea is, in fact a puny nation, this seems somewhat suspect. The Union was joined by several less insignificant nations, but still seems a good ways away from becoming at all important in world affairs. Thank goodness. Who needs another GASN or Corporate Alliance?

Militaristic meaning they have a strong military. With a strong military they can help protect world security.

(OOC: Could you clarify "Protecting World Security." Do you mean, purely for example purposes, in the way the GASN nations protect by Peace and Mutual Defence or in the way the CA protects by forcefully removing any threat?)

(OOC: Could you clarify "Protecting World Security." Do you mean, purely for example purposes, in the way the GASN nations protect by Peace and Mutual Defence or in the way the CA protects by forcefully removing any threat?)

(A combination of both, if diplomacy will not remove the threat quietly then for force of arms will be used.)

Blasphemous Priest
Alyawulof
Zachyd

Hotdogs2 has only scorn for this alliance, there are no rules of membership it seems and the founder, Blasphemous Priest, is a completely ignorant of the fact that their nation is a small blip on the map of only 32million people, our army alone outnumbers this nation, let alone our navy and air force.

We therefore look down on any nation joining this "union", it seems that it is simply a way for Blasphemous Priest to ensure their nation is safe from the more evil members of our world. However we deem this as completely unnecessary as by joining any number of alliance this would have been ensured.

We dislike hypocrites, especially of the type or are small but use those who are stronger than them to protect them.

We have an ally in Undbagarten that will protect this Union. He should be arriving shortly. I would watch yourself. You will regret your remark if this Union gains steam.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Secretary General Yletzvik


The Federation of Undbagarten is hereby formally announcing its membership in the Union of Militaristic and Industrial Nations. We are also announcing that General Herrman Uhle will be running for Superintendent General in the coming election. The Federation of Undbagarten also pledges 11,000 men in the defence of this Union.

Thank you.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

In a recent telegram we have recieved from the nation of Blasphemous Priest, the President of Ebea is relenting current status as founder of the UMIN and the nations Department of Foreign Affairs is handing over control of the Union to Undbagarten. Secretary General Yletzvik has been appointed Temporary Superintendent General of the Union until elections can be held.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Secretary General Yletzvik


The Federation of Undbagarten is hereby formally announcing its membership in the Union of Militaristic and Industrial Nations. We are also announcing that General Herrman Uhle will be running for Superintendent General in the coming election. The Federation of Undbagarten also pledges 11,000 men ( [[IMAGE GOES HERE]] ) in the defence of this Union.

Thank you.

(OOC: Resize plzthx, Okay, what is this Unions opinion on the CA, I just wanna know if we'll be in direct conflict or the best of buddies.)

I do not regret anything i say, should you believe anyone can protect you then you are sorely wrong, the GDI is a major alliance with the Founder being Questers, the greatest naval nation in the world. Therefore do not threaten us, it would be much easier to us to destroy your chances of a future now, than to let you grow even slightly more.

OOC: Just something im thinking now, its really a bad idea to start slagging people off unless you want to become enemies with them, and that, for such a young nation, is never a good idea. No-one, and i mean no-one, is safe on NS. plus i expect your not used to RPing, which makes much harder to war.

You have to forgive my collegues ignorance. My nation was nearly destroying in its infancy for making the same mistake Blasphemous Priest has recently made. I have pryed control of the Union from his slippery fingers. And I am now in control.

(OOC: Resize plzthx, Okay, what is this Unions opinion on the CA, I just wanna know if we'll be in direct conflict or the best of buddies.)

I am not familiar with the CA and since I am now in control of the Union I am ignoring anything the OP said. I will try to avoid direct conflict with any nation at the moment.

We have an ally in Undbagarten that will protect this Union. He should be arriving shortly. I would watch yourself. You will regret your remark if this Union gains steam.

I do not regret anything i say, should you believe anyone can protect you then you are sorely wrong, the GDI is a major alliance with the Founder being Questers, the greatest naval nation in the world. Therefore do not threaten us, it would be much easier to us to destroy your chances of a future now, than to let you grow even slightly more.

OOC: Just something im thinking now, its really a bad idea to start slagging people off unless you want to become enemies with them, and that, for such a young nation, is never a good idea. No-one, and i mean no-one, is safe on NS. plus i expect your not used to RPing, which makes much harder to war.

Edit- Could the picture be taken down and changed to a smaller size? it doesn't help messing up a thread like that.

(OCC: I have to go to lunch I will be back on shortly. Thanks.)

I am not familiar with the CA and since I am now in control of the Union I am ignoring anything the OP said. I will try to avoid direct conflict with any nation at the moment.

(OOC: Yeah, but could you at least resize that image, page-stretch is almost twice as annoying as Time Warps or a Soviet Joke, okles, i'll post up an IC message hang on)

Diplomatic Message from Supreme Minister David Du'Font to the UMIN

As a representative of the Corporate Alliance we wish to introduce ourselves as a potent military power in the world, although we of Toopoxia do not speak for all in the Alliance I beleive it would be in the best interests of our unions to work for the better goal, I ask nothing of the Union currently only that when the time comes you will listen to the Alliance with open ears.

Whilst Honako is pleased that you called us a large superpower, which compared to the huge nations many have in the Nationstates world were not, our interest has somewhat waned after a few comments here. You sound like a miniature CA, of which we are already a member of, and we feel it may be somewhat dangerous to get involved in this alliance. And your threatening comment against a nation that merely questioned you shows that this alliance may jump into stupid conflicts unnecessarily. Also, who exactly runs this now? For now, I'll retract my declaration of interest, though in the future I may wish to join.

Good luck with it.

Mrs Bourla Parkins,
High Commissioner of Honako

Hotdogs2 would like to show its approval of the new management of this alliance. However, we do wish to point out that the CA is an alliance specifically and purely aimed at destroying GASN and GUSN, we therefore would like to warn you before making any rash or quick alliances, instead urging you to look in depth into any offers of friendship.

The GDI stands neutral on its position on TUMIC at the current time, however we shall wait to pass judgment until we see who joins this union and the rules by which the union shall be run. We do not however feel there will be any threat from TUMIC, and hope we are proved correct in the future.

Regards, General Tarponica - Director of GDI affairs for Hotdogs2

OOC: Just letting you know, i'm co-founder of the GDI, which is an alliance rather larger than you would at first presume(the members list has not been updated for some time :D).

Moantha Today

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Rupert Bull

Those of you who blinked may have missed this, but it seems that Ebea is no longer in charge of the UMIN. After clarifying that the military needs be strong only compared to the part of the nation that is not in the military, and threatening the nations of HotDogs2, they have stepped down. The somewhat more noticable Undbagarten has taken their place, and seems to be heading in a marginiably saner direction.

Military Legal Code

Secretary General Yletzvik,

In order to establish mutual security within the UMIN the Federation of Undbagarten is setting forth a code of military conduct within the Union. Those member nations who wish to provide certain troop numbers to the UMIN will be required to inform the UMIN of any and all military leadership that may be included. The Federation of Undbagarten will allow the soveriegn nation that pledged the troop number the UMIN to retain control over that portion of the military; but they must have approval from a General Assembly before they take immediate action with said troop number. This is so that the UMIN and its delegates can have ready access information retaining to current UMIN military strength. If the member nation does not wish to relinquish certain command authority of the portion of the military pledged to the UMIN the nations delegate can appeal to the Superintendent General and a decision as a whole will be reached.
As for Naval or Air Forces, member nations that wish to be named contractors of the UMIN will be chosen every third term to supply the UMIN with its Navy and Air Forces.

(Note: a single term is no longer two weeks, this can lead to severe confusion within the UMIN very quickly and in quick succession; instead a single term is now one month.)

(OOC: Yeah, but could you at least resize that image, page-stretch is almost twice as annoying as Time Warps or a Soviet Joke, okles, i'll post up an IC message hang on)

Diplomatic Message from Supreme Minister David Du'Font to the UMIN

As a representative of the Corporate Alliance we wish to introduce ourselves as a potent military power in the world, although we of Toopoxia do not speak for all in the Alliance I beleive it would be in the best interests of our unions to work for the better goal, I ask nothing of the Union currently only that when the time comes you will listen to the Alliance with open ears.

The UMIN will certainly listen to anything the CA has to say. I hope that a certain level of peaceful cooperation can be achieved.

(OCC: I just deleted the link, the page stretch was annoying!)

Moantha Today

Page A Two, Bull's Eye Column
Rupert Bull

Those of you who blinked may have missed this, but it seems that Ebea is no longer in charge of the UMIN. After clarifying that the military needs be strong only compared to the part of the nation that is not in the military, and threatening the nations of HotDogs2, they have stepped down. The somewhat more noticable Undbagarten has taken their place, and seems to be heading in a marginiably saner direction.

To the owner of Moantha Today:

The Federation of Undbagarten appreciates the word of approval, thank you.

President Randolph Carter

(OCC: I just deleted the link, the page stretch was annoying!)

(OOC: Glad ye agree :P Unfortunantly I can't respond ICly 'cos I don't want to mess up anything with BC's plans, he said that he'll keep an eye on this alliance to see where you're going and then make a decision, wait I can just write that.)

Diplomatic Message from Pontifex Maximus Raexe to the UMIN

Although we are not currently willing to form any form of deals we do wish to keep a close eye on the alliance purely out of interest, not out of hostility, once we have better knowledge on this alliances terms then we will be more willing to push forwards with any form of deal.

From the Desk of the Emperor
Hello, I am Emperor-General Braddock I, leader of the Nationalist-Facist party of The Peoples Freedom. I am officially asking if The Peoples Freedom may be entered into this alliance. I have already secured the needed votes in our Senate.

Signed,
Emperor-General Braddock I

(OOC: Glad ye agree :P Unfortunantly I can't respond ICly 'cos I don't want to mess up anything with BC's plans, he said that he'll keep an eye on this alliance to see where you're going and then make a decision, wait I can just write that.)

Diplomatic Message from Pontifex Maximus Raexe to the UMIN

Although we are not currently willing to form any form of deals we do wish to keep a close eye on the alliance purely out of interest, not out of hostility, once we have better knowledge on this alliances terms then we will be more willing to push forwards with any form of deal.

Return Message to Toopoxia from Secretary General Yletzvik:

Certainly, we understand. It appears as if the founder of this Union made some serious mistakes in early policy that may have messed up the Unions approval rating before it even kicked off. Once we have several members who have joined we will form a solid policy on several of the issues on question. But as a delegate to Undbagarten I cannot release any official statements on the situation with Blasphemous Priest, he merely sent a telegram saying the Union was ours. My term is almost over as residing Secretary General and you will soon be dealing with someone totally new; so I don't know exactly where this Union will go under the control of the Federation of Undbagarten.

(OCC: since the thread now belongs to my nation, do you think I should make a new thread and try to set the record straight?)

(OCC: since the thread now belongs to my nation, do you think I should make a new thread and try to set the record straight?)

(OOC: I have no idea, but I think that may be construed as spam, best to just avoid that whole area, my head hurts right now and i'm about to go cry, I'll be back on later with a response.)

From the Desk of the Emperor
Hello, I am Emperor-General Braddock I, leader of the Nationalist-Facist party of The Peoples Freedom. I am officially asking if The Peoples Freedom may be entered into this alliance. I have already secured the needed votes in our Senate.

Signed,
Emperor-General Braddock I

Do you currently have any affiliation with other unions at this point?

State Department Communication
The Peoples Freedom is a part of no International Alliance. Only the State of Wanderjar is officially allied with us.

State Department Communication
The Peoples Freedom is a part of no International Alliance. Only the State of Wanderjar is officially allied with us.


Then it is agreed. This is only a temporary membership. You will have to re-apply when I have an official membership form that has to be filled out by the nations current leadership. ( I ,unlike my collegue who formed this union, will not allow every random Joe, dick and mary into this Union. This is not meant as an insult or anything, just letting you know that you will soon have to reapply. Though you will probably be accepted again so don't worry.)

(OOC: I have no idea, but I think that may be construed as spam, best to just avoid that whole area, my head hurts right now and i'm about to go cry, I'll be back on later with a response.)

(OCC: You do that, hurry back though. You have been here longer than I have, and I may need your help in sifting through all the applications that may soon be flooding the thread.)

State Department Communication

This is agreed to by our government. Thank you for your time.

State Department Communication

This is agreed to by our government. Thank you for your time.

Thank you for agreeing. I formally request that you nations government submit a small post on the framework of an ideal economic and military policy of the UMIN, I want everybody opinion so that I may lead this Union in the right direction.

Economic Department Communication
The Economic policy should be that of an Ultra-Capitalistic society. Any and all trade agreements should be pursued with the utmost importance. They should be favorable to the Alliance. Each member nation should vigorously pursue the construction and exploitation of their resources and infrastructure. Third World nations should be developed quickly, with the assitance of the Alliance. We personally believe that all nations should abolish Welfare, but this is not needed in the Alliance.

High Command/General Staff Communication
The Alliance should have a very strong Military. Each member nation should have a Task Force for the alliance ready to go. In the event of a war, all nations should throw their entire Armed Forces behind the alliance. One Leader should be elected for overall command of these forces. The tital of that should be Supreme Commander. He will be the sole man responsible for the outcome of any war, weather a failure or victory.[/FONT]

I completely agree with you actually. I had a post prepared but you summed up everything I was going to say. How would you like to run for Superintendent General. It would bring a greater sense of pride to your nation. You would be running along side the Undbagartian canidate.

Economic Department Communication
The Economic policy should be that of an Ultra-Capitalistic society. Any and all trade agreements should be pursued with the utmost importance. They should be favorable to the Alliance. Each member nation should vigorously pursue the construction and exploitation of their resources and infrastructure. Third World nations should be developed quickly, with the assitance of the Alliance. We personally believe that all nations should abolish Welfare, but this is not needed in the Alliance.

High Command/General Staff Communication
The Alliance should have a very strong Military. Each member nation should have a Task Force for the alliance ready to go. In the event of a war, all nations should throw their entire Armed Forces behind the alliance. One Leader should be elected for overall command of these forces. The tital of that should be Supreme Commander. He will be the sole man responsible for the outcome of any war, weather a failure or victory.[/FONT]

(OCC: I will post mine anyway.)


Economy

I think that each member nation should pursue an economy under greater government regulation; in order to prevent huge corporations from dominating the market. But I think that the nations should retain a free market even though it is regulated by the government. Something like Socialist-Capitalism. (If that makes any sense.)

Military

(Refer to previous post)

State Department Communication

We wish to not run this alliance. We wish to however put in a Candidate for Supreme Commander.

When the elections are held your nations candidate will be put in for Supreme Commander of the UMIN International Army. Who are you considering for the position anyway?

State Department Communication

We wish to not run this alliance. We wish to however put in a Candidate for Supreme Commander.

the united states of centridia wishes to join this union if you accept us.

the united states of centridia wishes to join this union if you accept us.

Accepted. Thank you for joining.

(OCC:Would someone like the responsibility of updating the member list. I will if I have to, it is tedious work and I really don't want to do it.)

High Command Communication

The man we have nominated for this position is Lord-General Andrew Melkor. Melkor has been a Marine for more than forty years, has won almost every award for leadership and valor, and has personally been involved in more than six wars. For the past twenty years he has established a phenomenal record for the V Marine Corps. He has been recently assigned as Commander of the Marine Corps Military University and High School. He also serves as Operations officer for the Marine Corps' General Staff.

(Note: Each branch has its own General Staff, or leaders, each Branch's General Staff elects one member to serve in High Command.)


I also have a candidate of my own, General Wycoff of the Third Armed Air Forces of Undbagarten. He has been a vibrate individual of the Undbagartian military for some 30 years now and has been elected Secretary General four times. (The position is currently held by Yletzvik). It should be a reletivly short election with only two candidates and only a handful of member nations.

(OCC: Poll coming. I have to get Blasphemous Priest to make the poll it should only take a few minutes, I saw him on another forum a few minutes ago. Hold on.)

President of Undbagarten

When the elections are held your nations candidate will be put in for Supreme Commander of the UMIN International Army. Who are you considering for the position anyway?

High Command Communication

The man we have nominated for this position is Lord-General Andrew Melkor. Melkor has been a Marine for more than forty years, has won almost every award for leadership and valor, and has personally been involved in more than six wars. For the past twenty years he has established a phenomenal record for the V Marine Corps. He has been recently assigned as Commander of the Marine Corps Military University and High School. He also serves as Operations officer for the Marine Corps' General Staff.

(Note: Each branch has its own General Staff, or leaders, each Branch's General Staff elects one member to serve in High Command.)

The election will end at 3:00 forum time.

(OCC: I don't think people realize that there is a major election going on. I know there are more than just two members.)

The Heroes Nation of -Scaevola- (http://www.nationstates.net/-scaevola-)is interested in joining this union, but first we would need some questions answered to our satisfaction.

1) The numbers of committed troops/military equipment that are required to be a defense pact member. There should be a certain minimum amount with all countries that fall short should not having a say in deployments/military actions. They would still be allies and defended from aggression, but not commanders.

2) There should be an investment bank. More economically advanced members would invest their currency by buying sums of cheaper currencies and then selling them off as USDollars later and pocketing the profit from the increase in their base value.

Example: I buy the equivalent to $1 billion US in "small country bucks" using my currency the "Lefty." The "small country bucks" are worth $0.95 compared to US Dollars, so I have control of 1.05 billion "small country bucks." Later, after the "small country buck" has gained in value to be equal to $1.05 US, I sell my lot and get the quivalent of $1.1025 billion US.

The weaker country get to use a more powerful currency to buy things or build its eonomy. The good investor gets a profit. The union financial officer keeps track of these investments and gives the union a funding source outside of indivdual members.

In any event, the Heroes Nation would like to have temporary observer status until a decision is made.

The Heroes Nation of -Scaevola- (http://www.nationstates.net/-scaevola-)is interested in joining this union, but first we would need some questions answered to our satisfaction.

1) The numbers of committed troops/military equipment that are required to be a defense pact member. There should be a certain minimum amount with all countries that fall short should not having a say in deployments/military actions. They would still be allies and defended from aggression, but not commanders.

2) There should be an investment bank. More economically advanced members would invest their currency by buying sums of cheaper currencies and then selling them off as USDollars later and pocketing the profit from the increase in their base value.

Example: I buy the equivalent to $1 billion US in "small country bucks" using my currency the "Lefty." The "small country bucks" are worth $0.95 compared to US Dollars, so I have control of 1.05 billion "small country bucks." Later, after the "small country buck" has gained in value to be equal to $1.05 US, I sell my lot and get the quivalent of $1.1025 billion US.

The weaker country get to use a more powerful currency to buy things or build its eonomy. The good investor gets a profit. The union financial officer keeps track of these investments and gives the union a funding source outside of indivdual members.

In any event, the Heroes Nation would like to have temporary observer status until a decision is made.


1) The set minimum for troop strength to be handed over to the UMIN is undefined because I don't want alienate member nations that fall beneath the quoto. I do however hope that each nation will hand over as much a possible to the UMIN. However, if a nation refuses to hand over any military equipment they will not be allowed in the decision making process at all.

2)I am not gifted in economics, feel free to chat with ThePeoplesFreedom about this. The standard economic policy will be decided in an open debate in another thread soon once we work out the kinks of the UMIN.

Observatory status granted, but only for a limited time. You have two weeks before it is revoked. I hope you find the UMIN appealing.

Thank you for your response.

Even though we are just observers and have no vote, we urge that your candidate, General Wycoff, be appointed.

We will be watching and offering our views as deemed necessary.

The Peoples Freedom sees absolutely no reason why Wycoff should be appointed as his experience is inferior to Melkor's

Thank you for your response.

Even though we are just observers and have no vote, we urge that your candidate, General Wycoff, be appointed.

We will be watching and offering our views as deemed necessary.

Okay. That is fine. I am looking forward to insight from a non-member nation. It will give me outside opinions of the UMIN.

The Peoples Freedom sees absolutely no reason why Wycoff should be appointed as his experience is inferior to Melkor's

I don't wish to cause hostility between our nations but really... who are you to say that General Wycoff's experience is inferior to your own nations General. That is stepping over the line a bit much.

I don't wish to cause hostility between our nations but really... who are you to say that General Wycoff's experience is inferior to your own nations General. That is stepping over the line a bit much.

Perhaps Wargames should settle this matter?

Perhaps Wargames should settle this matter?

Wargames...hmmm. I will inform General Wycoff of your proposal. Because of this dispute I am hereby postponing the completion of the election indefinatly. All in favor say aye.

General Wycoff accepts your challange ThePeoplesFreedom, if he is defeated he says he will formally withdraw from the election.

We shall be sending a team of observers, a group of ten. Two senior officers with four subordinates each, drawn from the different branches of the Heroes Armed Forces.

One observation group to be placed with each side.

We shall be sending a team of observers, a group of ten. Two senior officers with four subordinates each, drawn from the different branches of the Heroes Armed Forces.

One observation group to be placed with each side.

That is fine.

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UMIN News Broadcast Center

For those of you who have been dead to the world for the last couple hours, a wargame between the ThePeoplesFreedom's Lord-General Andrew Melkor and the Undbagartian Federal General Wycoff is being held to settle a dispute between the two political nominees for the UMIN position as Supreme Commander of the UMIN International Army. The battle is taking place, according, to reports from reliable sources , that the battle is taking place over France at this very moment. We don't have any information about the sizes of both individual armies, but there have been reports that he Norva Carrier Group has been brought into the battle.
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The Secretary General of Undbagarten has not let on that the election will procede anytime soon. But as of right now, before the election was postponed, Lord-General Melkor holds the majority of the UMIN vote.

( Here is live action from the field. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520981 )

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I am officially opening discussions between the UMIN and the GASN. To discuss economic policy and foreign policy.

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCMENT
I, the current leader of the UMIN, am going to remake this thread and add greater detail to the OP original idea. I will have it posted either later tonight or early tommorow. All who oppose this idea please let me know.