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I believe Illior said he thought the trial would be on the GASN offsite, since the even occured in a GASN operation.

But we'll see how this all turns out.

This is the OOC thread for the upcoming trial of the Soviet Officer which gave the order to shell Worchester.

I need judges, two from GASN, two from the GUSN and two from ADAN, plus, my own two judges:

Oh, and probably a neutral third party to have the trial in.

JUDGES:
GASN:
GUSN:

Hallad -
Cautetan -

ADAN:

PROHT - MoFA Pinkerton and deputy MoFA Gumbal.
Antigr -

EURASIA:

The Right Honourable Andrew Swan
The Right Honourable Robert Hamilton

I'll send a judge. I'm also completly neutral in this conflict, even though I'm allied to you.

Since the attack occured on my soil, I feel that I ought to provide a judge.

EDIT: I do not think it is a good idea to let Vontanas in on this.

I believe Illior said he thought the trial would be on the GASN offsite, since the even occured in a GASN operation.

But we'll see how this all turns out.

I was not taking part in the GASN operation, in fact, this was a completely independent situation.

As of now, my country is totally neutral in the rebellion, save for business interests supplying both sides. I'd be willing to provide the location, either in Mer des Ennuis or onboard the warship "White Dawn", a montana class converted to luxury Yacht.

Eurasia: check your TGs

Since the attack occured on my soil, I feel that I ought to provide a judge.

EDIT: I do not think it is a good idea to let Vontanas in on this.

Sounds fair, send two, like everyone else.

Vontanas will enter as a GUSN-sided judge.

Eurasia's judges:

The Right Honourable Andrew Swan and the Right Honourable Robert Hamilton.

I was not taking part in the GASN operation, in fact, this was a completely independent situation.

Even so, GASN may launch an investigation on the groups who resisted arrest.

Fucking Jolt timewarp.

Even so, GASN may launch an investigation on the groups who resisted arrest.

Fucking Jolt timewarp.

*Shrugs*

They were just doing what any normal person would do if they suddenly found themselves trying to be arrested by someone they consider an "ally".

Even so, do what you have to do.

TWSP: In the odd event you missed it, i'll be more than willing to provide a neutral location for the trial to occur, be it on land or at sea onboard a secure battleship in the middle of a carrier battle group.

Unfurtanetly, do to a certain nation's deal, I'm withdrawing my judge offer. However I will send a newsgroup to cover the trial, from the nationalized Imperial News Central.

TWSP: In the odd event you missed it, i'll be more than willing to provide a neutral location for the trial to occur, be it on land or at sea onboard a secure battleship in the middle of a carrier battle group.

I noticed, thanks for the offer, I'll probably accept it.

I believe this should be held by GASN as it not only occured during our operation, it disrupted our actions on the ground (especially in the hearts and minds campaign as civies are going to start shooting at GASN soldiers immediately now).

It ought to occur in a GASN tribunal on Eurasian soil. I agree completely with Aequatio in his rationale, and my rationale is that the crimes were committed in my nation.

If necessary, I can help with the second GUSN judge position.

I don't see why GUSN or ADAN should have judges, neither alliance had anything to do with it, besides TWSP being in them.

It should be a pure GASN trial, as all four(five) of the participants are in GASN, I would like to send a judge, but it probably wouldn't be the best, as we are obviously against TWSP.

I think the judges should be from TWSP, Eurasia, Illior, Cravan, and Aequatio, possibly another third party judge from where the trial is being held.

I don't believe that there should be a representatives from either ADAN or GUSN and I have no qualms in holding the tribunals at Terrence AFB.

Im afraid not, as the officer we are talking about is already in Soviet Soil.

We'll only agree to a trial in Eurasian soil if you try the Eurasian PM as well.

But I do think GUSN and ADAN should have judges, because I am member of both, and they both have articles regarding war crimes.
If not, then I disagree with the procedure as a whole, seeing I was not part of the GASN operation.

If you want, since even though I'm in the GASN, I haven't really been involved in any of the incident (I don't even know what it is), I can send a judge.

Bynzekistan, as a member of the ADAN keen to become involved in matters of urgency, would be willing to send a judge to the trial. Otherwise we woul dbe happy to provide the location, or send a team of journalists to cover the event. Your call, TWSP :)

As an ADAN member, I've alerted the ADAN of what's going on.
Dunno if they'll be in on this or not.

*flips coin*

Looks like I'll be one of the judges representing ADAN on this.

Since GASN already has a fair number of high profile judges attending on their offsite.

If the GASN vehemently objects to the participation of myself on the behalf of another alliance, then I'll gladly send the judge in as a representitive of GASN interests.

MoFA Pinkerton and deputy MoFA Gumbal shall be attending.

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Even so, GASN may launch an investigation on the groups who resisted arrest.

In that case, ADAN and GUSN have an equal right to make their own inquerries.

I'll be one of the ADAN judges if that's OK.

Bynzekistan, as a member of the ADAN keen to become involved in matters of urgency, would be willing to send a judge to the trial. Otherwise we woul dbe happy to provide the location, or send a team of journalists to cover the event. Your call, TWSP :)

What locations do you have avaliable for the trial to take place in?

What locations do you have avaliable for the trial to take place in?

For a legal event of such stature the Supreme Council Chambers would probably be reserved. Failing that there is the Supreme Court House in Roncor Avenue. Both have ample room for these proceedings.

Since Vontanas is withdrawing his offer of a judge, I'd be more than willing to step in to represent the GUSN.

I'll send some news crews if it is wanted. Although I will not send any judges.

I'm starting it up now. Anybody that wants to judge needs to sign up now. I will also start the prosecution's opening statement.

Heh, funny thing, I dont care anymore.

You guys can the trial however you want, but it'll take place in Soviet soil.

Just let me know if someone makes a thread or anything.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519736

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519736

A trial for the gunners, well, seems like the trial for the General will have to wait then.

If you don't mind, I made myself as a Judge for the GASN side, and cleared it with Cravan.

I actually feel the gunners shouldn't be tried... They were following orders, after all.

According to laws in most RL countries (and mine) that's never an excuse, there is a thing called better judgement.

I'm not sure the title is clear on this, but the gunners and the commander are all being tried.

According to laws in most RL countries (and mine) that's never an excuse, there is a thing called better judgement.

And if you don't follow orders, it's called courtmarshall. I personally would be putting the genreal on trial and not the gunners themselves.

And if you don't follow orders, it's called courtmarshall. I personally would be putting the genreal on trial and not the gunners themselves.

AFAIK, its the general who is standing trial, at least thats what Im RP'ing.

And if you don't follow orders, it's called courtmarshall. I personally would be putting the genreal on trial and not the gunners themselves.

well, i guess the defense can RP that factor in.

To be honest, I'd like to see that all of those responsible for the crimes are tried, from the gunners up the chain of command to who gave the order.