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The RP I have planned will be strictly closed once there are enough players. So if you want in on the action, please sign-up here.

In a nutshell, the economy of Zaire is now a total wreck. 9 in 10 Zairians are below the poverty line, at least 85% of the people are unemployed, inflation recently topped 36,000%, and crime is at an all-time high. The state of most of the country borders on anarchic, and even the military, whose loyalty has been sustained for years by lucrative rewards, is getting antsy. Several generals are plotting, some with each other, and some against each other. The long-forgotten AFDL, a rebel faction that once nearly overthrew the government, is back, as are several new factions.

The RP will end with the overthrow - and possible death of - Mobutu Sese Seko and the establishment of a new government, although what kind of government that is remains to be seen.

The following are the roles that are available:

1. AFDL (total strength: 2,000 but will increase to possibly as high as 100,000 as the RP progresses)
2. Peacekeepers (if you decide to send them, please send no more than 12,000)
3. General Nzimbi Ngbale's forces (elite forces, about 5,000-6,000 that are plotting a coup against Mobutu; note that Nzimbi is Mobutu's cousin)

In addition, I would like one "anti-Mobutu" nation to send troops (limit 12,000) to help the rebels and one "pro-Mobutu" nation to send troops (limit 12,000) to help the government. Whichever side you play, remember that Mobutu's side will lose, so keep that in mind if you decide to sign up.

A few more notes: The peacekeepers may not side with anyone (their sole purpose is defending civilians); Nzimbi's forces are as opposed to the AFDL as they are to Mobutu; and if any nation wants to send correspondents to cover the war (up to two nations may do so), that would be great.

Any questions, please post them here or hit me up on MSN or yahoo.

Enjoy!

I'm game!

Since this seems a fairly small-scale operation, I might sharpen my war RP skills, if you're still in the market for an anti-Mobutu nation.

I am game to. I might go for anti-Mobutu. But can we get more info about the AFDL?

I'll play as General Nzimbi Ngbale's forces. Am I correct to assume these would be the DSP (your post says 5,000-6,000 troops, and the DSP NSwiki says 20,000, so maybe not)?

I also have experience with African nations and their peoples and culture, so that may help.

Transylvania, I assume you'll be pro-Mobutu? Kahanistan, approved. Zackistan, you may be the AFDL, if you wish. And Ubundi, confirmed. Yes, his troops are DSP.

Info on the AFDL: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Alliance_of_Democratic_Forces_for_the_Liberation_of_Congo-Zaire


Now all we need is a peacekeeping nation, and someone to cover the war, and we're set! :D

Thanks, guys.

I'll gladly deploy peacekeepers. I've just put together some motorised infantry units for just this sort of situation, plus I've been looking for a good RP.

I'll cover the war. I assume you're talking about choosing a nation to send news reporters over?

OOC:
Interesting idea. I'd send peacekeepers but it seems like someone already requested it. Although my nation ICly is against the current government of your nation for stuff that your nation has done ICly in the past, if I was to join up it's be to side with the factions against the government, but thats up to you. I'd probably send 1,000 SCS Marines (the ones who kicked you outta your embasy).

OOC:
Interesting idea. I'd send peacekeepers but it seems like someone already requested it. Although my nation ICly is against the current government of your nation for stuff that your nation has done ICly in the past, if I was to join up it's be to side with the factions against the government, but thats up to you. I'd probably send 1,000 SCS Marines (the ones who kicked you outta your embasy).

If it's ok with Congo--Kinshasa, I have no problem with creating a multinational force to coordinate our operations.

OOC:
I just looked back on my records Congo and I noticed that I still have an Embasy within your nation. I could RP as defence marines on the property and with your nation in disarray have Pelicans fly in to drop some SCS Marines to help bolster the defence of the Embasy. Although still, that is up to you.

Okay! So 5,000 to 6,000 troops of the DSP?

I'm not sure I'd have time to take part in an actual RP, but Ariddia would definitely have to react to this, since we have a presence in Zaire.

Here's how it would logically go.

When the fighting starts, the Red Star (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ariddian_Red_Star) would insist on staying, pointing out that Zairians need humanitarian help now more than ever.

The Ariddian government would go through the proper channels, and would ask the Zairian government to ensure the protection of all Ariddian personnel (i.e. Red Star personnel) currently in Zaire.

If that doesn't work (i.e. if Mobutu and/or the Zairian army are incapable or unwilling to ensure the protection of Red Star personnel), the PDSRA would send in a small force of the Ariddian Red Army and Ariddian Airforce (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Military_of_Ariddia), to protect the Red Star in Zaire, and to assist with its humanitarian work. (The Ariddian military is trained for humanitarian missions.) Ariddia's military presence would remain entirely neutral in the conflict, focusing solely on protecting the Red Star and assisting civilians.

Ariddia will probably maintain diplomatic relations with Zaire as long as the government remains in place, but will not voice support for it. Ambassador Ekwele will remain in Kinshasa, but most embassy personnel will leave the country, for safety reasons, as per Ariddia's instructions.

PINA (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/PINA) is already present on the ground, covering the Red Star's humanitarian efforts (notably with Pareesa Rahmati (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Pareesa_Rahmati)), and would remain in order to cover the conflict (focusing on its effects on civilians, to alert international public opinion).

Let me know whether this would be OK.

Futuris, that's correct. Tolvan, approved.

Shazbotdom, you can also send peacekeepers, if you want. And Ubundi, that's correct. Ariddia, that sounds fine.

Okay, this thread is now closed. We have everyone we need. I'll get this thing started as soon as I can. :)

Transylvania, I assume you'll be pro-Mobutu?

On the pro side at the start, but it will become Pro-Dominion Commonwealth side later. Check your telegrams because I want what is in it to between me and you.

Could I send "peacekeepers" would would basically just loot and burn? It would greatly help my black market economy.

Since you use the RL map of Zaire, for purposes of this RP are we using the RL population or your NS one?

Arridia, you're welcome to embed some reporters with my peacekeepers if you want. Just TG me and we'll work out the details.

OOC:
He uses his NS Population, not the RL one for the nation. Unless he specifies that he is using the RL population for the nation, then he's using his NS Population for this RP.

OOC:
He uses his NS Population, not the RL one for the nation. Unless he specifies that he is using the RL population for the nation, then he's using his NS Population for this RP.

All right then.

I would like also to send a peacekeeping force to some part of the country, remaining entirely neutral in the conflict. Also, I would like to send medical and educational support for the inhabitants of the area my peacekeepers were stationed.

Zambistan and Montegrande, approved.

This thread is now closed to future applicants. I have enough players now.

When is ye going to open le IC thread?


Yes. I went Mideval....:headbang:

Aw, damn, I wanted to sign up for this (wanted to play around with Manus Dei insurgents and cause general havoc for everything)...haven't RPed with you in ages...

Soon, Shaz, soon.

And Doom, I think I can squeeze you into the RP.

Here it is! ~ http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12397068#post12397068

Im game, i will send 12,000 Osteian Motorized infantry units, acompanying them will be "Bison" APC's, "Coyote" APC's, Quad scout units, and humvee's along with 3 ton mercedes LAVS....is tank support nessasary?

For air support...

Some apache attack helicoptors, along with some Commanche choppers aswell...transport...UH-60 Blackhawks...

Im game, i will send 12,000 Osteian Motorized infantry units, acompanying them will be "Bison" APC's, "Coyote" APC's, Quad scout units, and humvee's along with 3 ton mercedes LAVS....is tank support nessasary?

For air support...

Some apache attack helicoptors, along with some Commanche choppers aswell...transport...UH-60 Blackhawks...

I think you're too late. Sorry, but i think we have enough poeple already.

I think you're too late. Sorry, but i think we have enough poeple already.

Sorry, but JWolf is right. :(

Sorry, but JWolf is right. :(

I'm always right. LOL :rolleyes:

Tolvan, it was Kisangani that was nuked. I don’t think you would see it from Kinshasa as Kisanagani is almost across the nation.

Anyways, here my fleet.

The Atlantic Alpha fleet:
Two Champion class super carriers [170 F/A 401 Birds of Prey carrier aircrafts & 15 SH-60 Seahawk helicopters] ((UDN The Red Tiger & UDN The Iron Lord))
Ten Agamemnon class battleships ((UDN Bilbao Demon & UDN Irock & UDN Usuc & UDN Metsac & UDN Iron Demon & UDN The Vengeful Monkey & UDN The Silent Threat & UDN The Angry Terror & UDN Black Demon & UDN The Black Hangnail))
Ten Ticonderoga class missile cruisers
Twenty Daring class air defense destroyers
Fifty Jolly Roger class combat ships
A number of support ships that are good for a fleet this size.

The Atlantic Beta fleet:
Two Champion class super carriers [170 F/A 401 Birds of Prey carrier aircrafts & 15 SH-60 Seahawk helicopters] ((UDN The Terrible Claw & UDN The Terrible Scorpion))
Ten Agamemnon class battleships ((UDN The Horrible Monkey & UDN The Flying Lion & UDN The Princess's Revenge & UDN The Flying Rocker & UDN The Sea Eagle & UDN The Cagliari Salamander & UDN The Sweet Pearl & UDN Lady Jane's Dragon & UDN Hitbalish & UDN The Vengeful Terror))
Ten Ticonderoga class missile cruisers
Twenty Daring class air defense destroyers
Fifty Jolly Roger class combat ships
A number of support ships that are good for a fleet this size.

The Atlantic Gamma fleet:
Two Super Danskeran class missile dreadnoughts ((UDN The Lust of Hades & UDN Dragon's Executioner))
Four Peninsular class trimaran pocket battleships ((UDN The Bloody Wolf of Atlantis & UDN Privateer's Dark Dagger & UDN The Omen & UDN The Black Anger))
Two Champion class super carriers [170 F/A 401 Birds of Prey carrier aircrafts & 15 SH-60 Seahawk helicopters] ((UDN The Count‘s Pearl & UDN The Terrible Scorpion))
Ten Daring class air defense destroyers
Ten Brandenburg class stealth ASW frigates
Fifty Jolly Roger class combat ships
A number of support ships that are good for a fleet this size.

Tolvan, it was Kisangani that was nuked. I don’t think you would see it from Kinshasa as Kisanagani is almost across the nation.

I was half asleep and thought it said Kinshasa. I've deleted the post and will get an IC response up later, I have a job interview in about 30 mins so I'm pressed for time.

Also, don't forget I have a lot of troops deployed in the coastal area and they're completely neutral.

Roger that. Me and CK have something somewhat planned. So when that goes down, everybody have fun watching. Don’t think I’m going to stand by and allow somebody to invade another Commonwealth state.

As of now after talking with Doom, I would like this thread to not have any more NBC weapons used in it. They are only bad for threads and will only make things go down hill. There is no real point for them to be in this thread as Zaire wouldn't want his nation to become gas-filled wasteland.

Actualy, I feel NBC weapons in limited usage in this RP, a la terrorist attacks (chemical and biological weapons at least), would make this thread a whole lot more interesting.

I have feeling like I said early that Zaire doesn’t want his nation to become gas-filled wasteland. Chemical and biological weapons will only lead to more of them being used. I don’t want that as I’m going to try and fix Zaire. I have a feeling the others don’t want them, too. One nuke was fine and anything else is crazy.

Plus, I didn’t join this thread to have my men attack by NBC weapons by terrorists. I joined this to aid CK with what he had planned for this role-play.

Ummm, a chemical mortar attack is hardly "turning Zaire into a gas-filled wasteland". I mean, a few terrorists with half a dozen mortars start dropping chemical shells on you, what you gonna do, gas the entire neighborhood back? There'd be no reason for more usage of chemical weapons. \

And you really shouldn't plug your IC objectives into OOC, Trans, it tends to lead to bad stuff.

Maybe you think about about this. If NBC weapons are used of my soldiers as first strike, NBC weapons will be used back against whomever used them. Understand? You want me to bring in more soldiers, but it will not do that. It will only lead to the Count ordering Zaire to be leveled after getting his soldiers and the other peacekeepers out first.

Got me, Doom?

As I’m the only one at war with your terrorists, it will be easier for me to level Zaire then hunt them down each of their cells.

Ummm, ok, so you level Zaire? And why would I care? That's your choice to do that, you wouldn't have to react in that way. I mean, if you're at war with only the terrorists, then why exactly would you level the country?

See, this is the problem with fighting terrorists, so hard to hunt them down (hence the current conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan), but it seems some people simply can't deal with that...

What's wrong with using NBC weapons in limited - and I do stress limited - quantities? Note that I am not choosing sides, I'm just trying to see everyone's perspective.

If Trans starts genociding folks, is it alright if I send a division or so of peacekeepers?

It would be the easiest option to level the whole nation.

And plus, you think your terrorists could attack with mortars on my people at the University of Kinshasa? Do you think I’m not watching the surrounding areas? Your people wouldn’t have time to set of their mortars before they were attacked.

Do something a terrorist would do like have a bomb attack on one of the roadblocks. Not ‘I’m going to set up some mortars to attack this stage. The Zairians will love us for this.’

Plus, here is the only thing I could find about the area you want to attack.

http://faber.kuleuven.be/english/partnerships/kinshasa.htm

It looks like you’re only attack one building, so it will be hard for your terrorist to do what you want them to do.

What's wrong with using NBC weapons in limited - and I do stress limited - quantities? Note that I am not choosing sides, I'm just trying to see everyone's perspective.

I don’t like them in limited or unlimited ways. It will only lead to your nation be leveled. Maybe not by gas, but there will be a lot of bombers in the air to firebomb the jungles and etc.

If Trans starts genociding folks, is it alright if I send a division or so of peacekeepers?

We already have quite a few players, but if no one else objects, I wouldn't mind another.

If Trans starts genociding folks, is it alright if I send a division or so of peacekeepers?

I wish the peacekeepers would do thier job and aid in the hunt for the terrorists. It is like I’m the only one that really cares. Doom’s only going to land grab and place another corrupt leader in control.

I don’t like them in limited or unlimited ways. It will only lead to your nation be leveled. Maybe not by gas, but there will be a lot of bombers in the air to firebomb the jungles and etc.

That's not a problem with me (ICly, yes, but OOC, no). War is hell, after all.

Easiest option? The easiest option in Iraq would be to exterminate every man, woman, and child with nuclear weapons, and yet we haven't done that, and I highly doubt we'd do it even if there was a chemical attack. I will attack whatever the hell I feel like attacking, thank you very much.

That's not a problem with me (ICly, yes, but OOC, no). War is hell, after all.

Lovely, well you can thank Doom’s terrorists after it is over. But Doom needs a damn good reason in how his terrorist will mortar then without be spotted by my satellites or UAVs.

Trans: Doom's terrorists can do whatever they want, regardless of them getting spotted.

If you blow up the terrorists after they fire, go for it. But don't use an OOC shield like that, just RP the damage out and retaliate against the terrorists.

Btw, Congo--Kinshasa, I'm planning on invading a neighboring African country to use as a base, so can I post the initial invasion in your thread?

Easiest option? The easiest option in Iraq would be to exterminate every man, woman, and child with nuclear weapons, and yet we haven't done that, and I highly doubt we'd do it even if there was a chemical attack. I will attack whatever the hell I feel like attacking, thank you very much.

Easiest option as the terrorist will just continue using gas in later attacks.

Give me a reason that your men could set up and etc without me seeing them. Look at the picture in the link I posted. That’s where the stage is at. There are snipers on both sides of the roof and etc.

WHY: I’ll spot his people before they even launch their attack. Like I said early, I didn’t join to have people using gas on my force or anybody else’s forces in Zaire. It will only ruin the thread because it will lead to what’s happening right now.

You'll see when I RP it, damnit.

Btw, Congo--Kinshasa, I'm planning on invading a neighboring African country to use as a base, so can I post the initial invasion in your thread?

Be my guest. :)

You'll see when I RP it, damnit.

No, I’ll see before you role-play the attack. Your men can’t hide from my satellites and UAVs or whatever you have.

Thinking about it, I’m going to get out of this thread as I don’t role-play with people whom use NBCs because they can’t win without it. Doom always goes for the gas when he doesn’t need to use it. Normal mortar rounds would work.

I don't even know why you were allowed in this as the signed up was already closed.

I hath posted.

To clarify matters, I'm sending 5 divisions in to invade Angola, but one brigade into Zaire.

Okay. And for IC reference, Jonas Savimbi is President of Angola.

*snip*

Let's not be too hasty.

Let's try working this out first.

I think we have tried. I’ve pointed out that using NBC would be a bad idea for your nation. This role-play wasn’t made to have Zaire turn into a wasteland of burned trees and dead bodies. It was to take your leader out of power. Not have Doom come in with his terrorist, which can be linked to his own senate, and take over your land to place another corrupt leader in control.

You're the only one that can make Doom not use NBC. So, you want me to stay and have the nation in a good shape with maybe a better leader or have puppet of Doom's in control of Zaire.

Trans, it doesn't seem that Congo cares - he wants a good RP, as far as I can see, and chem weapons CAN make a good RP if used right, and Doom is a good RPer. I disagree with his methods ICly, but Doom is a good RPer.

The point of the RP is to make a story, not for any paritcular viewpoint to win.

I don’t care if he’s a good role-player. NBC weapons will ruin threads. There is nothing good about them. They will not make the story better. It will end up with Zaire becoming a wasteland like I said. The Count doesn’t deal with people whom use weapons of cowards as that are what any type of NBC are.

After the speech, I’ll move out to engage his terrorists like he wanted. I don’t want to deal with a gas attack as that is the most unoriginal idea ever.

“Let’s use gas on them.”

“Okay!”

And another thing pissing me off is that the Zairians aren’t doing anything about those terrorists. Doom’s taking a lot of liberties with this role-play.

Where are the peacekeepers? They should be hunting them down, too. The terrorists are doing something that they were send to do stop, there is nothing peaceful in killing off all non-Christians.

The Zairians aren't in much of a position to deal with Manus Dei.

And gas isn't more unoriginal than anything else he's ever used - and I'm going to go after Manus Dei as soon as my invasion of Angola is completed and I can deploy the brigade into Zaire. And you can just withdraw your troops ICly rather than using a blanket OOC shield.

Really, I’m going to talk some sense into CK’s mind before I do anything. If Doom launches an attack without me catching his terrorists via UAVs, Ill ignore it. He will have to a damn good role-player to get away with this.

And yes, they are. I have feeling that they outnumber those Manus Dei members and with Doom setting up his companies, which shouldn’t have been done as Zaire is a Commonwealth state and meaning TWI would have been set up there before anybody else, those Zairians would be well armed to fight the Manus Dei.

See where I’m going.

As long as your invasion had a good reason, your forces will be allowed into the nation. I’ve already forced K’stan out because his forces were invaders to Zaire. As long as your aid in the hunt, your forces will be allowed in.

As far as I can guess, Doom doesn't care if you catch them via UAV /after they fire/. The way he's told me, you probably will not be able to catch them prior to them firing, but after that, they'd be fair game. Just wait for him to RP it out.

And again, as far as I know, the Zairans are in disarray and wouldn't be able to do much about Manus Dei or anyone else causing havoc. I'm just going in to purge enemies and obtain some new colonial territory in Africa.

Bullshit about catching them after they fire. There are UAV keeping an eye over the area for a few miles in each way. Anybody that looks like they are up to no good will be seen. You can’t fire mortars out of sewers or windows of buildings. Mortars need to go into the air upwards first. I’ll catch them as they are setting up their mortars. This is during the daylight. Nobody hold speeches at night unless they are fools.

But they still could put up a fucking fight and not join them.

And you know what, I didn’t add that part of the post until after it was there for some time. The idea popped into my head that it would be good. But I didn’t see Doom wanting to use gas against it as he knew what I think about NBC users. Plus, if he is going to use the gas I’m thinking about, then I want to know where they got it from? Because I know his companies aren’t selling it to every Dick, Jack or Jane. If they were, I would have stopped them.

And there is one thing I hate over NBC, that is land grabbers. I got a big fleet in Zairian waters to keep those invaders out. If you go into Zaire and start taking land then I’ll be forced to take your soldiers out. I don’t think anybody understand was a peacekeeper is and does. *Looks at Why and K’stan*

I'm invading Angola for new territory, so I'm bypassing the tiny coast of Zaire. And trust me, Doom detailed how it's going to work, and you would have a hard time figuring out he's about to shoot at you before he fires, unless you have x-ray vision.

I am actually intending on peacekeeping, btw. Manus Dei and I are not friendly.

Well, Zaire will become a burned out waste land. Even his terrorists don't want that from what he told me. Something about control a good piece of land and placing a puppet in control.

I told Doom that he could attack after the speech. If he attacks before the speech, I’ll ignore it and say it happens at the end. And CK hasn’t got people there, so I don’t think Doom will attack until that happens.

Oh, and Whyatica, just so you know, Zaire has Cabinda.

And I was thinking, Why, what in the blue hell are you doing? You're part of the inner Haven thing. Going to war with the CA. I think your people wouldn’t like all of this war nonsense caused by your nation. Clan, K’stan, now Angola. Is that nut prime Minster back from the dead?

Trans, you really need to chill out. You clearly care only about winning and not writing a good story (you yourself said that you were going to annihilate Zaire because it was easiest, not because it was the most fun), and I'm not quite sure I want to RP with someone like that.

And Manus Dei can attack you whenever the hell they please, they're terrorists, they don't care about reprecussions. If there's an area with only Transylvanians and no Zairians then all the better, they can claim God struck them down and spared the Zairians. What the hell is your problem, anyway? Do you have a problem with taking losses or something? Or is it that you have to win every single conflict you fight, and every plan has to work out the way you planned it?

Here is the problem, Doom, I think you’re getting away with having as many people as you want in this thread. I have feeling that you’re not following the rules about the ground forces limit. I’m trying to follow that limit, but you want your attack to make me bring in more soldiers. Here is why I think you’re over the limit.

Go back to the posters being set up. I role-play with hired Zairians, nothing that I haven’t seen in these role-play. Then you come in with six armed, masked men taking each of them. Either ways, you’re over the limit or godmodding. The reason is think of the high number as I was placing posters in all or almost every street in Zaire.

The gas thing, your people wouldn’t have unless your companies in Zaire sold it to them or your government gave it to them. Both would end up as bad things for out. First off, about the companies selling it them. If those companies were selling deadly NBC type weapons like your gas, then I would have forced to stop or shut down as those gas aren’t go for Zaire. Get me? Zaire is my Commonwealth state, so I would be thinking about its safety over your greedy ways.

If your government supplied them (I’ll find that out by catching one of your people or getting Max to say it), your nation and the government will be labeled as supporters of terrorists. Yes, I know you wouldn’t care as your nation is already an evil nation.

Now, to the best part of my little rant. I’ve UAVs, maybe four or six, and a few satellites watching the surrounding area of the stage. Meaning it could be only a few blocks or ten blocks or twenty blocks. Meaning your terrorists would have to move into the area as there wasn’t any radio talk about the stage and the speech there until the soldiers moved in. And don’t say that you had men there with the type of weapons laying around as you haven’t role-played the terrorists to have that stuff. I haven’t seen in this whole role-play.

It take sometime to set up motors and tune them in. And I don’t firing a mortar undercover will be a good idea as the round could go off in your face or miss the target. So as your men set their mortars up, they would be seen by the UAVs or the satellites then attacked by either an UAV or a team of SF soldiers.

Catching what I’m talking about?

I don’t really care about losing a battle or even a war. I have lose battles before, one to Kraven and that was a major lose to me.

Hell, man, my plans, which I asked CK about and he liked them, have already gone to hell and back. I was only going to have one operation and that was the Snake Hunt. Then I have to start one about the terrorists, which shouldn’t have ever been in Zaire. Somebody would have reported seeing their symbol a long time ago after they started setting up their bases.

So, I think my plans have been royally screwed up because of our terrorist. I shouldn’t have told you whom CK was ready was because I don’t think you would have ever been in this thread. You shouldn’t have been in this role-play as the signed was closed before your post appeared in this thread. We even turned Osteia away and if I was online at the time you asked to join, I would have see the same thing as I told Osteia.

And here comes the last of my rant. The easiest options to take out every Zairians to stop them from joining your terrorists. Or call Kraven, if he had time. It is better to stop your enemy before they gain more power. And bombing the jungles for the hideouts of the terrorists, isn’t really annihilate Zaire unless the terrorists move into the cities. And it would be fun for me.

What I’m doing is what CK wanted for this thread. What you’re doing is killing most of his pop because you want more land. I can’t believe CK agreed to that.

And this is the end of my rant.

*Takes a breath*

And I was thinking, Why, what in the blue hell are you doing? You're part of the inner Haven thing. Going to war with the CA. I think your people wouldn’t like all of this war nonsense caused by your nation. Clan, K’stan, now Angola. Is that nut prime Minster back from the dead?

Why is it your business what I do? Clan was a massively popular attack/annexation. K'stan not so much. Nobody beyond the Emperor and the generals in charge even KNOW about the Angola invasion, and it would probably be seen as the Whyaticans bringing civilization to the uncivilized.

...wow, that was a waste of a page.

What the hell do you not understand about "I have the militias working for me"? You yourself are using hired locals, what the hell do you think I'm doing? It's been repeated so many times already that I'd think you would have gotten the picture by now. That, Tranny, is how you have six armed men dragging your people into vans. I even wrote IN THAT POST that those people were being REWARDED by Manus Dei for the capture of those people. And if your about to complain about the locals being part of the limit, let be quote you:



The reason is think of the high number as I was placing posters in all or almost every street in Zaire.

Don't lecture me about numbers when you're placing posters on almost EVERY STREET IN ZAIRE.

As for the gas, I've already clearly demonstrated that Manus Dei has lots of sympathizers in the Senate, Army and higher ups in the Church, people capable of getting their hands on the gas from the corporations with ease; even if you do catch one of them (again, highly unlikely, as they'll kill themselves before they allow themselves to be taken (at least the Doomie ones)), they aren't going to KNOW where the gas came from. Not to mention the fact that I never even said I had companies in Zaire in the first place; everything in Mobutu's army that's Doomani designed was made in Doomingsland (as I mentioned in a post, as a matter of fact). Oh, and for the record, CK has already stated to me that my guys would have been able to smuggle the gas into Zaire after they'd gotten ahold of it in the first place.

So go ahead, try to stop my companies if you feel like it, I'm not stopping you from Rping it.

As for your UAVs...I haven't even told you how I'm gonna pull it off, you shall see how I do it if I ever get around to making an IC post...

And once more, you prove my point: you are more interested in winning then making a good story. Here you are bitching that I ruined your IC plans OOCly and that you should never have told me about all this because I ruined your plans. And once more you state that you'd rather take the easy path and kill every civilian in the country...way to go.

And, for the record, and CK said this himself, the people I'm killing off are minorities; I'm hardly killing off most of his populace.

WHY: Got you, good reason.

DOOM: Ah…flaming I see. I know you know what I don’t think and you’re saying in in way to only fuel my anger with you. Don’t call me that again, if you want to be civil about this.

Now, the militias aren’t working for you. Nobody in their right mind would work with terrorists that were killing off the minorities in their nation. I don’t care, if the nation is in Africa or somewhere else in the world. Nobody in their right mind would work with your terrorists.

About the locals that hired, I did that to add to the story and CK wasn’t logged on it at the time. I said every street to get the point across. Nobody would take the money to beat their own people unless they were sick in the mind.

You did say that Doomani weapons were easy to get as would getting your hands on a AK-47. Which will mean two things, that you have companies running there or your people wasted a lot of money by sending crates of your weapons without somebody buying them.

And yes, I could stop your companies on Dominion soil, if they were selling gas or other NBC to anybody they wanted.

Whatever you will do, I’ll catch them before they launch the attack. For the fact that your people wouldn’t know where those 200 soldiers were going until they arrived at the place. When they did, they would have to move into the area. And been seen by the UAVs or the satellites.

The easiest thing as by the looks of it, your terrorists have everybody in Zaire at their feet. So, it would be easy to take them all out before your terrorists gain more power.

For the record, Doom, I don’t think CK want to have his nation over ran by terrorists and have them place a corrupt leader in charge of Zaire. You did tell me that. And I told you want I was going do about that.

Everybody: It’s the United Dominion or the Dominion. My people are Dominionites as Transylvanians are from the region on Romania called Transylvania. If you would call my nation by that or my people by Dominionites, I’ll thank you.

Flaming? Excuse me? Where exactly did I flame you?

And yes, the militias are working for me. It's been RPed the entire time, and history has proven again and again that people will be perfectly willing to murder for money. Seriously, if you don't like it, just leave the RP already.

And the reason my weapons are so easily available is because CK purchased all those guns, i think somewhere in the area of 15 million DR-83s or something like that, then a bunch of my other guns.

My companies don't have much interest in your country as it is, you can go ahead and try to stop them on your own soil but it really won't affect them much, seeing as the only profit they're making off of you is the occasional big order for rifles, which are manufactured in Doomingsland as it is (I can't remember whether or not you bought prod rights (you might have), but in that case its a Dominion company producing the weapons on your soil, not mine)

And yes, it would not be hard to track where your people are going; a cell member sitting in a nearby building with a cell phone could easily tip off the death squads, unless you plan on executing everyone sitting in a nearby building or in possession of a cell phone (only after I mentioned this, of course, as you clearly did not consider it before)

And AGAIN, there you go with the easy way out. All's you care about is winning, and it shows.

And for the record, CK already knows what I'm planning with the terrorists, Trans; you don't.

Nobody would take the money to beat their own people unless they were sick in the mind.

Yes, they would. Especially if their economic situation was really desperate and they had family to feed.

The easiest thing as by the looks of it, your terrorists have everybody in Zaire at their feet. So, it would be easy to take them all out before your terrorists gain more power.

For the record, Doom, I don’t think CK want to have his nation over ran by terrorists and have them place a corrupt leader in charge of Zaire. You did tell me that. And I told you want I was going do about that.

Doom has no plans to place a leader in charge of Zaire. Trust me, Doom and I talked this over, and what he has planned does not conflict with what you and I planned. My suggestion: Wait it out, let Doom do his thing, and relax. Remember, this is an RP, and our sole purpose should be to have fun, not to turn it into a penis-waving contest with all the resulting OOC bitterness.

DOOM: You know damn well what you called me. Something I thought you wouldn’t have called me. Something you only called me to get more pissed at you. Grow up, please.

Nope, you have the warlords working for you. The warlord’s armies ain’t all of the Zairians.

I think he bought them for his armed forces. If they are in the armed forces, then they wouldn’t be easy to come by for the civilians. How you wrote it, it sounds like your companies were setting up shop in Zaire.

I’m talking about Zaire’s soil. Read up on my Commonwealth thing. Oh…yeah, you don’t give an ass whom Commonwealth it is as long as you can go around killing people. You told me that in AIM.

And here we go back to the number wanking shit again. Are you saying that you have person in every corner of Zaire? Or are you saying that these are the Zairians that are with cell-phone? The latter would mean you’re godmodding. Got me?

And two can play at that game. Using your logical, you’re only playing to win in this role-play. Terrorists don’t use gas, only crazy world leaders use gas like little old Max. Watch the news and you’ll see what terrorists like to do. Bombs, bombs, bombs. So, you’re playing to win as you only want more land for your empire.

Doom, you want to place another corrupt person in charge. And I don’t think CK wants that, that’s why I would kill him, too.

So…think about it, use gas on me and you’re be causing a huge shit storm. I know your government doesn’t want it as they want the terrorists to do something smart.

So…you can follow the rules or leave the role-play. That means drop down your numbers and stop role-playing as Zaire’s people. I even have stopped as I didn’t role-play people arriving at the stage . CK is a good role-player and can role-play his own people.

Stop lieing. Telling the truth is the best thing.

CK: Well Doom lied to you. He told me over AIM (Damn, I wished I saved that record) that he was going to place a person, a Zairian, in control by forcing the warlords to back off. No, I’m not going to sit back and watch him number wank and godmode using your people.

If he uses gas, I’ll level Zaire as you don’t fuck with my people. The use of NBC weapons is heavy frowned down on by the Count and most everybody in the UD. Every damn nation does the same thing. Maybe it’s the easiest way out, maybe it’s the winning way out, but I don’t give a rat’s ass.

I asked him nicely over AIM not to use gas as I don’t like people whom use it. NBC weapons are nothing but cheater weapons in my opinion. You want know his answer ‘I’ll do whatever the Hell I wanted”

And I should have stopped Doom from entering this because he uses them like they are normal rounds. The whole sign up was just pure bullshit then as you closed before Doom posted and he was allowed in.Same thing as Why.

Having fun doesn't mean using gas to get an upperhand or role-playing as some other person's poeple. I was having fun and will still have fun as I firebomb Zaire back to the stone age. It will be nothing Doom hasn't done and got away from it. I'll have fun, but I don't think anybody esle will.

As of now, OOCly I don’t even like Doom at this time because of his behavior with me and calling me a she-male to piss me off more. Telling me he will do whatever he wants after I asked him not to use gas. Using gas will only do bad things at this time. Max would be looked as an un-honorable person because he only cares more about his terrorists (Telling his senate that I was going to attack, so the terrorists could escape before I did) then friendships.

And I’ve only got madder as AOL doesn’t want play with Jolt.

As of now, Doom do the gas attack, as long as it isn’t wankish, so I can make another thread about your little group. Get ready to have your nation invaded by every good hearted person in NS. People don't like terrorists or killers and that fits you.

Keep in mind that if you attempt to genocide people in Zaire, I will invade with as much force as the RP permits and purge your forces from the region, first off.

Doom, you want to place another corrupt person in charge. And I don’t think CK wants that, that’s why I would kill him, too.

Both Doom and CK deny this, and you cannot say what CK wants. CK says what CK wants.

Why do you insist on shoving your nose into Doom's business? HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT MANUS DEI DOES TO HIS NATION'S REP.

Doomingsland has a bad reputation to begin with. Manus Dei's operations don't matter. Why do you care if Doom loses rep he never had?

I wouldn't presume the Doomani are white -- they live in a desert, after all, I would assume they're on the lighter end of 'arabian'. Still stick out, but they wouldn't be pale white like a West European.

What I wanna know is how a bunch of six foot-tall white guys just sneaking around Zaire basically unnoticed carrying out all manner of atrocities. I'm tempted to escalate my use of mercs to kill anyone who so much as seen with a Dommani.

I really want to know how these terrorists got into the nation and that they didn’t get reported by one local after seeing their symbol. Plus, they aren’t all Doomani. Anyways, I posted and Doom, you should have wrote a post with the attack in it.

I’m going from what Doom told me about placing a puppet like person in control of Zaire. He can lie all he wants, but he’ll have to tell the big man why in did that. Understand?

I know one thing, CK didn’t start this thread to have his nation full of terrorists.

Anyways, I’m tried of this, so I’ll go back to role-playing.

I’m thinking about hiring some mercs to aid with Darkness. They would be from the Silver Sky, if TSS has time. I need all the help I can get. Does anybody care?

Trans, you succeeded in wanking and godmodding all over in your post.

As the stage was finished, high powered fans were unloaded from the five ton truck. They were both powerful and quiet, but had two things to do. To cool those Zairians that have arrive or will arrive to hear the speech. And the best part is to force any type of gas out of the area, if those scum try to attack with gas or other types of NBC weapons.

You had no idea Doom was preparing to use gas until he told you OOCly.

You just wanked all over the thread. You cannot ICly know he plans on using gas. Doom, C--K, and I for that matter, should ignore you.

Why, it is Doomie‘s terrorists. If his nation uses gas like it’s candy, then his terrorists would use it as they worst or like those Doomani that work for the government.

Plus, I don’t give a damn as Doom has been wanking and godmodding through out this whole thread by role-playing as CK’s people. And you know what, I did have a number of [b]five ton trucks with trailers[/I] going there. The stage ain’t nothing fancy, just some blocks and sheets of wood. So, I can do whatever I please.

Think where in the blue moon this stage is at. Africa and in the jungle regions. So, it will not be nice and cool.

Ignoring is childish, but I should have ignored Doom a long time ago for his wankish behavior.

So, get of my case unless you’re going to ingore Doom for the same thing.

Waiting for CK to do something or Doomie to do something. I’ve all the time in the world. Yeah right!

Trans, due to your RP conduct - which a majority of this RP's participants view as godmodding - I must regretfully ask that you withdraw from this RP. This is nothing personal, but several people are getting agitated, and I simply want to save this RP. I hope there are no hard feelings.

Trans, I'm afraid CK is right. It'd be best if you bowed out and left the RP.

Godmodding on Doom’s side, FYI. And the role-play is going fine in my eyes. And I think only Doom is being agitated as he can’t use his favorite weapons.

And as I have been in the sun all day, there will be hard feeling. I have spend my time writing post for this thread, for what you planned on happening in this thread. I want you to think about it for sometime and don’t listen to Doom. Yes, I have a feeling that Doomie is hounding you on your AIM.

I have a reason to be here, Doomie doesn’t have a reason. He only want to gain more land or place a corrupt leader in control.

And this role-play can be saved, if Doom stops role-playing at your people.

If I do leave, I don’t want to have a single thing to do with you anymore because you’re were bullied by Doom to kick me. I can’t help it that Doom wants to win and use cheater weapons.

Trans, I'm afraid CK is right. It'd be best if you bowed out and left the RP.

I’m right, too. I’m not the only one at the wrong. I can’t help Doom didn’t make an IC post about the attack. I can’t help it that Doom wants to godmode.

The best thing you do is keep your lips closed as you arrived after the role-play was going fine without you. And you're in the same place as Doomie, joined after the sign up was closed.

Trans: Just leave the RP. You piss pretty much EVERYBODY off. I don't care if you ignore everyone involved, LEAVE.

I don’t think I pissed everybody off in this thread. How about you pack up and leave? I didn’t use my time in this role-play to have CK be bullied in to kick me out of it.

And one more goddamn thing, stop following me and messing with nations that are part of the DC. First, CP, then Kologk and now Zaire.

If you can’t tell, I’m on the edge because of how y’all are ignoring everything I said. Doomie is godmodding, too. FYI, Doom bullied CK to kick me out over dumb charges. One post to Doom’s many godmodish posts. What the fuck, man? Do I need to find those posts?

OPEN YOUR EYES, PEOPLE AND SEE THE TRUTH!!!

I was totally unaware Zaire was in the DC before I read the thread, and that was after I started my first posts. Second, CK wasn't "bullied" into doing anything. Third, if someone did this to you, you would scream and call it godmodding. You godmoded those fans into existance. Those would never have existed had Doom not told you about the chemical attack.

You piss people off.

Not to mention I have not ONCE godmodded throughout the entirety of this RP. The only Zairiains I've RPed were terror cell members and the warlords' militiamen, and I got permission from CK to do this beforehand, so your point is totally moot.

Doom, you forgot about those armed men, six little eggs in a pack. Those wouldn’t be terror cell member as you would be way over the fucking the limit. And those weren’t the warlords' militiamen. You can’t win without using your cheater gas. You could have been a nice person and said okay after I ask not to use it. But no, you said “I’ll do whatever the Hell I want.”

And Why, at else I’m not role-playing a invasion one sided. So, I put up fans in one of my post after I knew Doom was going to use his fucking cheating weapons. I should have added in the main post, but y’all would have cried anyways.

And Why, I didn’t godmoded those fans into existence. Whom are you to tell me what MY people with them? It fucking Africa! Maybe I should have added that a table was set up table with ice-cold bottle water. Would you have had cried god mode to that? I bet you would.

So…I have a feeling why a few people stopped role-playing because CK wasn’t role-playing with them and only focused on Doomie or me. And now that Doomie will do whatever he fucking wants, this role-play will go to Hell really fast.

Ah, this was a good way to end a two year friendship, RB!

And I made my last IC post in the doomed thread. RB, Doom will screw you somehow. Anyways, I’m done with you and the others for good. I put too much time in this role-play and I get kicked out because one post, when Doomie has been wanking from the start.

Your terrorist wouldn’t have set up shop in Zaire. So, that was godmode.

Anyways, like what AMF did to me. I’ll kick you out of my region and the DC. Don’t be crawling back to me because I’ll tell you to leave me alone.

Kahanistan, I actualy started working on my post before your's got up, in case there was any confusion about that...I'll go respond to your's now separately...