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Could someone take away, certain aspects of the the Tech, such as the large spaceships,Slipspace drives, spartan shields and armor, would it be considered late PMT?

Yeah, Id consider it PMT if you take away the Space part.

Well, if you take away anything the Covenant uses and most of the stuff involved in UNSC spacecraft, sure, PMT.

I already use HALO tech. I have the Spartan suit just not with the shields, and I don't do space stuff but I use all the human vehicles and weapons from HALO 2.

If you want to use everything they give, I'd call it NFT-near future tech. Most Covenant things would fall there as well.

However, if you were to take select things-the 'nades, weaponry (besides the shield 'nade and spartan laser, both of Halo 3.) and vehicles of the UNSC (Mongoose [Halo 3, it's an unarmed ATV], 'Hog, and Scorpian Tank), you could probaly form them into PMT. You could also likely put the Pelicans there as well. Drop pods...iffy. Accepting that kind of force from high atmosphere would be tough. If you outfitted them with a parachute that could reduce speed, yeah.

The Spartan MJOLINR Mark V-VII armor is too strong for PMT-however, you could probaly use the MJOLINR Mark IV armor-the predeccessor to the armor in Halo Combat Evolved. No shield, sorry, but it's still an excellent combat suit.

Slipspace is way too far for PMT-that's definately NFT, and only the UNSC version. The Covenant version is so good and accurate, it's downright FT.

The ships of the UNSC are also NFT-the Covvie ones have got to be FT, they're tough (particularly the assault carriers).

Covenant weaponry is NFT, except for a few. The Brute Shot is a PMT weapon-it's basically a modified grenade launcher if you dumbed it down. The Spike Grenade of Halo 3 could also be PMT-it's a glorified sticky bomb/Steilhangrenaten.

The UNSC is pretty much PMT, besides the Spartan suits, the shield grenades, and the Nonlinear Rifle (Laser).

Now the UNSC Space Fleet, FT.


Anything Covenant however, strictly FT.

Could I get away with some ships such as a In Amber Clad type vessel and keep it in the atomosphere. It would be late PMT maybe around 2030-2050. No huge rail guns, maybe a couple 8 inch ones and a lot of missle batteries.

Probably not. There's really no way to keep something so large and non-aerodynamic in the sky until you hit FT.

Probably not. There's really no way to keep something so large and non-aerodynamic in the sky until you hit FT.

Wrong.

It'd have to be traveling frighteningly fast, or better, be a rounded design.

Simple argument on that.

You strap a model rocket to a brick, and the brick will fly.

Strap a NASA booster to a house, and the house will fly, assuming it doesn't simply blow apart as the rocket takes off.


In short, put enough power behind it, and anything will fly in earth's atmosphere.

In short, put enough power behind it, and anything will fly in earth's atmosphere.

fly as in lift off the ground and move along slighty, yes
fly as in lift off the ground with capable steering, altitude and landing ability, no

If that were true then I could jump off the ground and claim to be flying... or on drugs.

Could someone take away, certain aspects of the the Tech, such as the large spaceships,Slipspace drives, spartan shields and armor, would it be considered late PMT?


If slipspace is like slipstream I would say it isn't PMT

In short, put enough power behind it, and anything will fly in earth's atmosphere.

If your in the UK, i'll use top gear as an example. They made a robin reliant fly on a rocket. But boy, like 11tons of thrust was needed.

Sure, you could theoretically get anything to fly, but no way for long, not something which has missile batteries and rail guns, that kind of things is more like an airship- slow and cumbersome, easily destroyed by anti-aircraft fire/missiles. Sorry to say it, but people who have massive naval ships and airships would die a quick and painful death in RL.

Pretty much your not going to get this thing flying in other words, not by 2050, you need a LOT of lift and thrust to fly something massive and i know too much about flying :P

Okay, yes, you could get the Pillar of Autumn to fly. However, it's a 1.17 kilometer long metal brick. The thing probably weighs in around 259 megatonnes (assuming it's a 1.2x.3x.24 km block that's made of iron and half of it is void space) and has about the aerodynamic properties of a turtle. Without something like an Orion drive (I dare you to use one in atmo!), it ain't moving.

Okay, yes, you could get the Pillar of Autumn to fly. However, it's a 1.17 kilometer long metal brick. The thing probably weighs in around 259 megatonnes (assuming it's a 1.2x.3x.24 km block that's made of iron and half of it is void space) and has about the aerodynamic properties of a turtle. Without something like an Orion drive (I dare you to use one in atmo!), it ain't moving.

He said In Amber Clad, which is almost a third the size.
Still wouldn't be good, but considerably more feasible.

Without something like an Orion drive (I dare you to use one in atmo!), it ain't moving.

A NSWR is worse. :P

Anyway, In Amber Clad doesn't strike me as a very good shape for space combat frankly (if you want to run it in a atmosphere, granted, you'll want a smooth lifting body job, I'm pretty sure IAC uses antigrav to fly...). Basically you want something that offers little surface area towards a target and it should be able to spin (to stop DEW fire from eating away at the same spot, this is a very bad thingtm).