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I have gotten sort of bored with the regular NS RP threads, and I figured why not let someone invade my nation for the hell of it. MT/PMT, no one can ally with me, but as many enemy's against me as there can be :) If you win, I will let you gain a certain percentage of my defense budget for a certain period of NS years. Reason can be whatever you want. No nukes, but chemical agents and bio agents allowed.
Map:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/bobiscool33/TPF.jpg
signed up:
1. TPF
2. Amazonian Beasts

If my memory serves me well, there was a rebellion in your country, there were several armies trying to restore peace, and Hallad was RP'ing the Left-Wing Insurgents, while I supplied them.

If my memory serves me well, there was a rebellion in your country, there were several armies trying to restore peace, and Hallad was RP'ing the Left-Wing Insurgents, while I supplied them.

OCC:Wasn't that a long time ago? And I recalled EVIL got kicked out of my nation?

How about a joint attack, I am in for one of those, but im not too powerful a nation so I need back up nations.

How about a joint attack, I am in for one of those, but im not too powerful a nation so I need back up nations.

As many people can be against my as they want.

I will join this if I can see some military info first. I dont want to get into a situation that will spell demise for many of my men.

Your going against a 3 billion pop nation with very high tech custom equipment.

around 100 million are active duty, 100 mil are in reserves/National Guard units.

Sounds like fun. Throw me in.

That's way way too much for a nation of 3 billion, that's nearly 5% of your population in the active only, you'd have no economy, no training, conscripts most likely, and bad equippment. Really, you shouldn't go over 2.5% at all. Even less if you want a competent military.

Okay, I am out of my slave wars, I am definetly in. I love blowing things up

That's way way too much for a nation of 3 billion, that's nearly 5% of your population in the active only, you'd have no economy, no training, conscripts most likely, and bad equippment. Really, you shouldn't go over 2.5% at all. Even less if you want a competent military.

It'll provide a challenge, though...

Normally, it is not, for the purposes of this thread, it is much larger.

Normally, it is not, for the purposes of this thread, it is much larger.

OOC: I'd like to join in. I have a pop of 3.8 Billion, ruled by a Megalomanical dictator, and highly imperialist.

That and I need to get some more experience in War Roleplaying.

Ok Im in.
My 7 Million Active forces need practice.
Ill add some more info to my military factbook. (In my sig)
What about ariforce or navy? Im still in i just want to know.

The Silver Sky, I have no idea what you are talking about, my army has 10 million people and the police has 2.5 million, thats more than half my country size, it wont be tommorow but then i guess the amount of people would increase.

You are all in, we will just wait tomorrow for more people to join.

on a side note..i just realized that your map looks similar to what i threw up 2 hours ago lol nothing against your art work i just couldn't let that go un noticed

on a side note..i just realized that your map looks similar to what i threw up 2 hours ago lol nothing against your art work i just couldn't let that go un noticed

I built that in one minute :) it works. If it needs to be more detailed, I will make it more detailed.

I just noticed..I wouldn't be able to do any better myself...soo is this thing still open I might want in..im in the process of ending a conflict but i'm in a bit of a warmongering rut..and the rp's are good practice

Do we all have to be allied in the assault or can I send my forces in seperately and take advantage of the fact that most of your forces are managing the big guys?

We might like to join.

-bump-

If you don't mind, I'd like to start off with a release of a bio-agent i've been dying to use in the field. It's quite brutal, and if it works as well as I expect it to, it will make you appear rather weak to any land-grubbing nation. Call it a preliminary terrorist attack if you will.

Hell, I've almost invaded you before! Why not go for a second time...

What? I'm in a pair of cumbersome invasion RP's already?

Howabout a kind of spec-ops thing?

Well, that leaves us with more tedious RP'ing for no apparent gain...

Why don't we just overload ourselves a little more, for old time's sake? Why not...

I'm in, and I'll race anyone else here to his capital!

The Silver Sky, I have no idea what you are talking about, my army has 10 million people and the police has 2.5 million, thats more than half my country size, it wont be tommorow but then i guess the amount of people would increase.

What?! Your military should be, like Silver Sky said, somewhere around 2-3% of your population.

In no way could any nation EVER support more than half of their population EVER. I'll work this out for you;

~25 million person nation, with 2.5% of the population = 625,000 troops.

Now, this will get even smaller, don't you worry. You need logistics! These are the guys that will bring the food to your troops, fix your tanks, and refuel your fighters. This should level out at about one front line soldier for every seven or so logistical troops. Now, applying this to your 625,000 guys leaves us with 78,125 combat troops.

Still, this is not all your army. These roughly eighty-thousand guys must be divided between all your branches. Every plane in the air force needs a pilot from this pool, and all you navies ships need crews drawn from this pool.

After all that, you will be left with the soldiers that you'll be using in an RP like this. Depending on the size of your navy and the number of aircraft you field, it could be anywhere between your maximum and nothing... That bit I cannot say, what with knowing nothing about your military, other than the number of guys you can support inside it.

Anyway, there are a number of useful threads on these topics stuck at the top of the II forums. If you feel the urge to argue with me, you may want to look at these first.

You must not understand the way my country works, Every person takes several test when they are young which decides what they are best at, stupid people work as low level factory workers, and the majority of my people end up as soldiers, and that is not including conscription. smart people become scientists accordingly, and mental retards become my political party members. The skillful,strong and smart people join AIDS training and the best of the best make it in. The stupid people don't go to school after age six, only those with potential go to school, average people got o military training at aged six when the final test is taken. So for a country with a disproportional military I have some of the best trained troops.

The Silver Sky, I have no idea what you are talking about, my army has 10 million people and the police has 2.5 million, thats more than half my country size, it wont be tommorow but then i guess the amount of people would increase.

OOC:WHAT?! 10 million army? with that you would only self destroy your country economically, as Pudu said the max. army of any ideal army should be 2-3% of the nation population, if not, it be really hard to mantain.

You must not understand the way my country works, Every person takes several test when they are young which decides what they are best at, stupid people work as low level factory workers, and the majority of my people end up as soldiers, and that is not including conscription. smart people become scientists accordingly, and mental retards become my political party members. The skillful,strong and smart people join AIDS training and the best of the best make it in. The stupid people don't go to school after age six, only those with potential go to school, average people got o military training at aged six when the final test is taken. So for a country with a disproportional military I have some of the best trained troops.

You must not understand how any country works...

You cannot produce enough food... guns... cars... sofas... planes... ANYTHING, with an economy based upon mental retards and uneducated workers.

Your economy is nonexistent, you have nowhere near enough money or food, or anything to keep an army supplied. See, you need to understand that you have to have a surplus of resources before you can contribute any people to ANY job that is not growing wheat.

Now, with your agriculture based on idiots, you have nowhere near enough food to be able to afford the extra people to do anything, let alone give tests to appropriate more than half your population to the military you cannot support.

What you say is impossible. Everyone knows it, except you, apparently.

Nah I know it, im just thinking of some BS so that I can have a large enough army to compete with the big guys who have been doing this for a year or so

Nah I know it, im just thinking of some BS so that I can have a large enough army to compete with the big guys who have been doing this for a year or so

The thing is, you can't compete with the "big guys". You never will be able to, that's the way it is.

Also, this goes back much further than a year... There are people who've been here for three, four, five years. I think this site was thrown up about 2001, and sometime shortly after that there were forums... And then there was life!

You'll just have to get pretty good at RP'ing, develop a military to challenge your own generation, and become noticed. That's your only option.

OOC: You could have a larger military if you had a State controlled economy, completely disregard all consumer goods that are not essential, and only have enough food to feed your soldiers while the peasants are left to fend for themselves. In other words, be like North Korea, you'll have a large conscript army, and a smaller force of more elite troops.

Even with all that, a 6% military is the absolute max for peacetime. Possibly up to 8% if you're willing to risk the collapse of your nation.

This thread was not designed for us to argue, and as such, it should be returned to its real purpose: Giving me another colony.

When may this war take place?

after carful thinking; If we don't end up at War with Raven consider us in; it'll give us a chance to test our our new F/A-3 Super Phoenix

Sounds good Pudu. You are all invading my nation, your objective will be to crush my army, and the insurgency that will follow. There are NO rules, except for MT/PMT tech to be decided by ME, and NO nuclear bombs however CHEMICAL and BIOLOGICAL agents can be used. A biological agent can be deadlier than the largest nukes. All we need to do is decide why all of you invade, I personally dont care. And when/if you win, the surrender terms must be decent no backstabbing, please.

Sounds good Pudu. You are all invading my nation, your objective will be to crush my army, and the insurgency that will follow. There are NO rules, except for MT/PMT tech to be decided by ME, and NO nuclear bombs however CHEMICAL and BIOLOGICAL agents can be used. A biological agent can be deadlier than the largest nukes. All we need to do is decide why all of you invade, I personally dont care. And when/if you win, the surrender terms must be decent no backstabbing, please.

We're MT+ / early PMT mostly. *nods* So no holds Barred? we allowed to use Fuel Air Bombs/Napam/MOAB etc? Oh and a nice list of likely targets? also is this going to be Co-op or we all going it alone? - By the way what natural resources do you have in abundance we could strip mine you of?

We're MT+ / early PMT mostly. *nods* So no holds Barred? we allowed to use Fuel Air Bombs/Napam/MOAB etc? Oh and a nice list of likely targets? also is this going to be Co-op or we all going it alone?

Fuel Air, Napalm, MOAB all allowed, you guys should go co-op since I can probably beat any one of you one on one with my over-powerful defenses. You can go solo though.

TPF: What about my "terrorist" bio attack?

OOC: I'll be invading plainly for Imperialistic purposes and to get a new colony.

I plan to go solo, although I may be willing to make some deals with the other invaders.

TPF: What about my "terrorist" bio attack?

Go Right ahead. You can create the thread now or wait for more people to join.

Is the creator making the IC thread or do we do them ourselves?

There should be one single Master thread. We can create more if need be. I will create now and Link to you.

MASTER THREAD:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12352848#post12352848

Code named Aurora, militarized version of a catepillar virus (basically a modified version of the virus used in Richard Preston's "The Cobra Event" combined with the delivery system of the "Shiva" virus of Tom Clancy's Rainbow six).

It has an incubation period of 3 days, during which it is highly contagious via aerosol and near undetectable.
After the third day, it affects the central nervous system (it basically turns the brain/body into a bio reactor), causing the person to gorge on food in highly public areas.
It eventually causes auto cannibalism followed by rapid, painless death, where it is easily spread by blood.
Its only detectable trait is blood blisters on mucous membranes. Fatality rate is between 90% and 99%. Current strain is v 0.99, just ready for release.

Updated

How long would it take to find a cure?

Just because I'm inviting you guys to invade my poor nation, don't think that I won't try my hardest to repulse you. ;)

Okay. IC when ready in the Master Thread.

Cure? I don't think one exists since the onset of the virus is so rapid. Obviously, containment procedures will work to a point, and NBC protect gear will obviously work. It is not a corrosive, so rubber hosing would remain intact.

you guys should go co-op since I can probably beat any one of you one on one with my over-powerful defenses. You can go solo though.

We'll see about that...

We'll see about that...

Your welcome to try :)

Just remember that in this RP I have an Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, which are all much more powerful than normal.

Code named Aurora, militarized version of a catepillar virus (basically a modified version of the virus used in Richard Preston's "The Cobra Event" combined with the delivery system of the "Shiva" virus of Tom Clancy's Rainbow six).

It has an incubation period of 3 days, during which it is highly contagious via aerosol and near undetectable.
After the third day, it affects the central nervous system (it basically turns the brain/body into a bio reactor), causing the person to gorge on food in highly public areas.
It eventually causes auto cannibalism followed by rapid, painless death, where it is easily spread by blood.
Its only detectable trait is blood blisters on mucous membranes. Fatality rate is between 90% and 99%. Current strain is v 0.99, just ready for release.

Updated

No offence, that's an impossible call for a virus. Highly contagious, short incubation period, AND an insanely high mortality rate?
Try 21 days incubation period, moderately infectious (like 3 infected by each victim) and 50% lethality. That's achievable with PMT biotechnology.

Terror:

No offence, that's an impossible call for a virus. Highly contagious, short incubation period, AND an insanely high mortality rate?
Try 21 days incubation period, moderately infectious (like 3 infected by each victim) and 50% lethality. That's achievable with PMT biotechnology.

Thanks for giving me a dumbed-down version of smallpox/ebola. Ebola incubates in 2 days and is nearly 100% fatal, weaponized strains morso. When distributed via an aerosol, it is highly contageous. Weaponized smallpox has a mortality rate close to 96%. Many diseases are also contageous during their incubation periods.

So yes, I do know what i'm talking about.


I'll have a post up in half an hour.

2 things.

TPF: This is PMT (as I was reviewing the virus stuff and somebody mentioned PMT), yeah? Just please no stupid orbital weapons-those tend to ruin experiences.

TPF: I've fought Kraven and Whyatica-and almost* survived. I can hold my own here single-handedly (you ain't much bigger, neither...)

*Note: Almost survived in Kraven fights refers to the fact that a few ships got away and my naval commander did too, while I inflicted sizeable damage.


EDIT: Pudu, the race is on ;)

EDIT: Pudu, the race is on ;)

So it begins...

Fun! Fun! :)

TPF: I'm not limiting the attacks to your subway system either... this will be fun!
Its a little too soon for your entire nation to be in lockdown... regional airports here I come!

TPF: I'm not limiting the attacks to your subway system either... this will be fun!
Its a little too soon for your entire nation to be in lockdown... regional airports here I come!

And let's just say... I have... suprises... for you.

I've taken the least subtle route here, hope it don't bother you that I'm throwing a big sack of hammers into whatever RP'ing Mer des Ennius and you were going to do...

Hehehe...

Just do not forget that I DO have a military.

I've taken the least subtle route here, hope it don't bother you that I'm throwing a big sack of hammers into whatever RP'ing Mer des Ennius and you were going to do...

Hehehe...

I noticed that... lol oh and this thread is now the OCC thread.

Just do not forget that I DO have a military.

True, true...

Hey, you're post responding to mine appeared above my post...

Crap! I based part of my last post thinking TPF hadn't posted yet-and supposing that some eyewitnesses had gotten out, giving time elapse.

Anyway, my air fleet would be pretty close before you could actually determine that it was headed for you.

However, you could eventually determine this, and that's where the war begins.

It's also at about this range that I'll be in range with some longer-ranged ground attack missiles from that fleet, and so the next post between us should be me doing that.

Then you can post the defense and scramble your fighters and do other such things that people do when invaded.

Anyway, my air fleet would be pretty close before you could actually determine that it was headed for you.

However, you could eventually determine this, and that's where the war begins.

It's also at about this range that I'll be in range with some longer-ranged ground attack missiles from that fleet, and so the next post between us should be me doing that.

Then you can post the defense and scramble your fighters and do other such things that people do when invaded.

mk.

Yea... i'm evil. I got that last thing from a combination of last season's 24 and the recent natural gas smell from NYC (the smell is an additive, and I figure some slob spilled a bit of the additive and didn't want to get crucified in the press. In this case, the virus was dumped into the system at the additive site).

Yea... i'm evil. I got that last thing from a combination of last season's 24 and the recent natural gas smell from NYC (the smell is an additive, and I figure some slob spilled a bit of the additive and didn't want to get crucified in the press. In this case, the virus was dumped into the system at the additive site).

You Suck. There's nothing I can do lol. Your Lucky YOUR country didnt do it, or you would have biological warfare on your hands lol.

You COULD say the natural gas had a filitration system since your leader likes to watch FOX/is paranoid/what have you. As for the airport... yea...

Terror:

Thanks for giving me a dumbed-down version of smallpox/ebola. Ebola incubates in 2 days and is nearly 100% fatal, weaponized strains morso. When distributed via an aerosol, it is highly contageous. Weaponized smallpox has a mortality rate close to 96%. Many diseases are also contageous during their incubation periods.

So yes, I do know what i'm talking about.

Ebola has yet to be successfully weaponized by any RL nation...*
(Makes for great movies though...)

Smallpox is far from lethal, though it does cause crippling illness, if untreated, sure, then you start getting a high mortality rate.

*The biggest problem was that it had to be kept anarobic, and in a moist envirement, in other words, injected one way or another (like biting, or needles). Drying it out or exposure to air kills the virus.

Ebola also pretty much rots out those vital organs and brain into a fine puree slushi...
While your wonder bio-weaopn appers to target the Central nervous system.

Eh, tis PMT, so I guess you can make such claims if one dedicates enough resources...

Oh, and TPF, this is happening "now", not a few days ago. Your society won't collapse until a week or so later, around when the enemy armies start to hit the ground. Of course, by then, the populance will be in chaos... toodles lol. I'm going to RP my 5 guys attempting to escape the nation, at any cost, after the shit really hits the fan.

Sure, a few million might die from the virus (it IS, afterall, a limited attack. A full scale attack would involve a few hundred gallons of the shit) now, which is enough to cause most of society to splinter, but hey, it could be worse. No need to jump the gun and have massive funeral pyres.

*raises hand...*

Why does Shakal still think he can have a ten-million man army?

Oh yea... the bodies smell minty fresh. Can't forget that (hey, if cyanide smells like almods, I can make a body smell fresh damnit!)

Well i dont want the entire collapse of my pop, just enough so there will be quite a bit of chaos while you guys invade. I may be going ta few days into teh future but w/e feel free to have your guys try to run away from my Federal Army which equals SS

Missiles away!

Your move.


EDIT: Also, I've added a bit about preparing for the Shakalian fleet.

*raises hand...*

Why does Shakal still think he can have a ten-million man army?

Beats me. Wish I could have that much in my arsenal.

Well my pop is about 810 million.
2%=16 million (Roughly). I have 10 million including my reserves. My military link is in the process of modification and will be changed. Remember my country has compulsory service. This number does include my reserves which are watching a television report about the war right now.

I dont think its unfair. I only have 5 million on active duty.

BTW: Pudu, I have no chance against you. I know that. But cmon, let me have some fun in this rp. Even if I dont get anything besides experience for my men and maybe some money...

I just realized I assumed those missles were headed for my fleet...If they werent tell me and ill rectify the mistake.

Well my pop is about 810 million.
2%=16 million (Roughly). I have 10 million including my reserves. My military link is in the process of modification and will be changed. Remember my country has compulsory service. This number does include my reserves which are watching a television report about the war right now.

I dont think its unfair. I only have 5 million on active duty.

BTW: Pudu, I have no chance against you. I know that. But cmon, let me have some fun in this rp. Even if I dont get anything besides experience for my men and maybe some money...

Um, that's 10 million out of 16 million. Just in your fighting force.

How 'bout logistics? How 'bout intel? How 'bout command? Etc. Etc. Etc.

Like I said. I have only 5 million active men. 7x5=35
so my logistics and active forces = 4.2% of my pop in war time. Besides, Most are just at home waiting.

Like I said. I have only 5 million active men. 7x5=35
so my logistics and active forces = 4.2% of my pop in war time. Besides, Most are just at home waiting.

And another 5 million reserves, mind you. Reserves must be factored in.

Like I said. I have only 5 million active men. 7x5=35
so my logistics and active forces = 4.2% of my pop in war time. Besides, Most are just at home waiting.

I do believe I saw you rectify the invading numbers...

You said you were invading with just 300,000 men, which does make more sense. Good.

Well im sorry to dissapoint Pudu, but my unfriendly neighbors have lauched a multiple attack on me on two fronts becuase the issue about building nukes i made didnt make them like me. (I now supply terrorists in their nations with weapons) So My small navy is going to run for it to save the homeland.

The Drones exploded in a Brilliant light. That was of little worry to the commanders on the ground. The AWACS planes were almost up, and once they were, the drones would become insanely deadly, with their Viper missiles. In the meantime, more than 2,000 QF-21's were amassed, followed by the much more expensive and elite QF-31's (200 of these)and more than 40 Q-52A's.

Yeah, you'll have to tell me exactly what's going on...

What drones? What's the response to my attack on your planes?

Yeah, you'll have to tell me exactly what's going on...

What drones? What's the response to my attack on your planes?

Yes, I have replaced the almost all of my manned aircraft with drones, that descion, actually, was in response to you. I would love to get my hands on your F-78's even an Export version.

Yes, I have replaced the almost all of my manned aircraft with drones, that descion, actually, was in response to you. I would love to get my hands on your F-78's even an Export version.

This fact allows that post to make like... seventeen times more sense. Thanks!

Also, again, that would be a fun little thing to RP. Later on, during overland combat, you searching through rubble and wrecks, attempting to peice together one of these aircraft.

but i cant, because i dont know how
how can u do that
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:mp5:
:sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

then you see a glowing light in the sky, ur soldiers are like WTF then boom the nation is obliterated.

if you dont believe it check out my nation, space weapon all the way

Wow... TPF, you have attracted some of the worst n00bs I've ever seen with that "Please invade me" thing...

Wouldn't it be great if you could edit the title...


then you see a glowing light in the sky, ur soldiers are like WTF then boom the nation is obliterated.

if you dont believe it check out my nation, space weapon all the way

As for you; shutup. There are stikies at the top of the forum page, go read them, not this.

Wow... TPF, you have attracted some of the worst n00bs I've ever seen with that "Please invade me" thing...

Wouldn't it be great if you could edit the title...




As for you; shutup. There are stikies at the top of the forum page, go read them, not this.

ROFLCHOPTER

The Armada of aircraft soon finally had their AWACS up, and with it, there powerful, and lethal, Viper missiles. Each one had a range of 200 miles, depending on the speed, at fastest it was at 50. They had one thousand pound warheads as well. They got the range from the AWACS, and they were able to bypass most Radar Jamming due to the AWACS's supercomputers that counter the effect. 1,000 fighters broke off to attack and destroy the F-78K's, launching their missiles, two each, at maximum speed. They then went to fly in closer, to realse their short-ranged missiles, before they would become missiles themselves. Meanwhile, the other 1,000 and the elite QF-31's accompanied by the Q-52A's turned towards the transports. There were only a couple hundred miles to shore, where the enemy was going, but also where the SAM's would be able to help.

Just one thing; my F-78Ks are quite aways ahead of the rest of the airfleet, due to their hanging out in mach 3+ speeds while the transports are only capable of 0.7 mach, obviously not supersonic.

I do have a number of fighters guarding the transports, but the thing is, they're still aways away, precisely to keep you from doing what your doing; targeting them. You'll have to spend some time under missile fire to get there, just as I did to get where I am.

Other than that, all seems OK, and I'll respond sometime tomorrow (as it is three AM here, and I want sleep...).