NationStates Jolt Archive

I've had this idea for a while. Each oil corporation/nationalized industry taps into it oil supplies only to find that the have a few hundred barrels left. Green nations prosper, and the Great Oil Wars would start. We'd need to have atleast two nations that would have huge amounts of oil though. I'll be one of them. Also, whatever goes on in that thread stays in that thread. Now, what see you?

I have no oil. I use hempseed oil/ethanol and such. I'm in.

Obviously many of us spent the extra dollar to be Green, but even though I'm a Green nation, I still have a booming oil trade.

I will be one of the nations fighting to get oil.

I will be one of the nations fighting to get oil.

Well, you're in the CA, no? That's pretty much a given. We need an alliance dedicated to stealing everyone's tin or something. For variety.

I use Thermal Deploymerization Plants to harvest the oil and process any carbon-based product into oil. That is my proprietary technology so I suppose I can restrict it.

So I guess I'm out. Though I suppose people would pay for it. So I'll join in the CA offensive.

Besides if things get really rough, we'll invade green nations and watch as our not as flammable diesel fueled war machines crush their explosive hydrogen or ethanol based vehicles.

Yes, but those can only supply a certain amount of oil, correct Leafanistan? Also, I don't think the CA would be working together completly. As each nation would only have a little oil, I think it would be fractured into smaller alliances that fight each other to get the most amount of oil. So, who wants to be the other oil rich nation? It'd be cool if it was a CA nation.

Yes, but those can only supply a certain amount of oil, correct Leafanistan? Also, I don't think the CA would be working together completly. As each nation would only have a little oil, I think it would be fractured into smaller alliances that fight each other to get the most amount of oil. So, who wants to be the other oil rich nation? It'd be cool if it was a CA nation.

Theoretically they are infinitely scalable, they run mostly on garbage and sewage. And the CA is really well united unlike other alliances. As businessmen we know that dividing ourselves is suicide for all parties involved. Splitting a meagre amount of oil is better than having it all to yourself but in a blasted wasteland.

We'll probably conquer oil rich nations, then restrict the oil and attack green nations so they require our oil. I was thinking things like biological attacks that kill corn and soy so their crops die. If it is hydrogen we steal their uranium supplies or coal supplies.

We'll have to ensure CA oil is the only oil.

Yes, but those can only supply a certain amount of oil, correct Leafanistan? Also, I don't think the CA would be working together completly. As each nation would only have a little oil, I think it would be fractured into smaller alliances that fight each other to get the most amount of oil. So, who wants to be the other oil rich nation? It'd be cool if it was a CA nation.
Most of the CA probably won't get involved so you don't have to worry about us becoming a huge alliance.

Most of the CA probably won't get involved so you don't have to worry about us becoming a huge alliance.

Good. Need a nice balance of things. I suspect a "Green Alliance" will be formed not long after the original aggresions.

Well, we need a few more nations before we can start the thread. Speaking of which, who wants to make the IC thread?

EDIT: Jaredcohenia, it could possibly be both. Besides, you could invade the Environmentally Green nations and take their oil.

If by "green" you mean "glowing due to radiological activities", then I'm in!

If by "green" you mean environmentally a loser, I'm out.

We'll have to ensure CA oil is the only oil.

Thats been the plan from the beginning. Griffincrest is most definitly in.

First it was the Sudan-China deal I brokered when I was 8, now it will be this one. Perfect...but we need a name and a fancy logo. Something simple like Shell, I was thinking Python.

Python Oil Conglomerate: We'll crush the competition.
A Member of the Corporate Alliance.
Full control of the Market for the Future

The Empire, although it does use a significant level of alternate energy and electric transportation, does have a need for a high level of oil - we are therefore interested

You know, from where I'm standing, it seems that the ability to produce an unlimited amount of oil would rather blunt the point of this thread, as it were.

The Zombie Alliance doesn't really use oil, as it runs on about 1700's level technology, realying on human, animal, and Zombie labor. So I guess I could enter as a green nation....?

You know, from where I'm standing, it seems that the ability to produce an unlimited amount of oil would rather blunt the point of this thread, as it were.

It requires us to provide garbage or other forms of carbon. Theoretically we could use up all the garbage and run low on things to throw in. Especially if we monopolize oil trade in the manner we want.

It requires us to provide garbage or other forms of carbon. Theoretically we could use up all the garbage and run low on things to throw in. Especially if we monopolize oil trade in the manner we want.

You could always throw the less productive workers in. Of course, I don't use oil anyways, so I don't know what I'm worried about. I could sell you my garbage though...

They've got a point. You can only produce five hundred barrels yearly from the Thermal Depolymerization Plants. That goes to all other nations that bought the tech from Leafy, including myself.

I've had this idea for a while. Each oil corporation/nationalized industry taps into it oil supplies only to find that the have a few hundred barrels left. Green nations prosper, and the Great Oil Wars would start. We'd need to have atleast two nations that would have huge amounts of oil though. I'll be one of them. Also, whatever goes on in that thread stays in that thread. Now, what see you?

But oil can be artificially made in labs and by processing organic matter.

But oil can be artificially made in labs and by processing organic matter.

That's why I just put a cap on how much artificial oil can be produced. Besides people, this technology isn't cheap.

I would also like to be one of the nations fighting over the oil. Perhaps, a couple of the oil companies are allied with their parent nations? Maybe there could be an environmental terrorist group trying to stop the oil companies.

I'd join...except for the fact that I've got ****loads of oil, since I just RPed the discovery of 200 billion barrels of oil within my territoral waters last week.

I don't think these wars for oil need something separate. It's what happens all the time IRL and regularly in NS open zone anyway.

They've got a point. You can only produce five hundred barrels yearly from the Thermal Depolymerization Plants. That goes to all other nations that bought the tech from Leafy, including myself.

500 barrels is literally a drop in the bucket for larger nations.

The problem with Thermal Deploymerization is that it is in a sense the solution to everything, but it requires long carbon chains, and most of the waste products are being recycled in other ways. So it can only use, completely wasted waste.

It also only produces a heavy diesel and gasoline powered cars will require more refining, more lost oil before they can run on TDP.

I suggest less than a million barrels a year and taking several years. It will be a stop gap solution.

Remember, a few hundred barrels goes away quickly, call it a few million barrels. That means they have just a scant few years.

You can make it via coal which people can have a lot of (expensive and pollutting like fuck), thermal deploymerization (limited below 1 million barrels and requires complex infrastructure and is limited to only long carbon chain waste.

You'll find people rushing toward alternative fuels.

How does this deal with other sources.

When is this starting?

We use solar cells made from organic materials, we have some oil, but who needs it?

Rogernomican Federation answer: We use electricity produced from Dams, Wind Power, bio-fuels and others. So we would be neutral.:)

Some people don't seem to grasp how much energy even our world uses.
The US today uses over twenty million barrels of oil, the world uses over eighty million.
You can not make this up with solar, not if you want to stay economically competitive, you need to go in for it all.
For example, in Uldarious we use a mix of Geothermal and hydroelectric plants, however we use oil as our primary fuel.

By the way, can I invest in Python oil?

Some people don't seem to grasp how much energy even our world uses.
The US today uses over twenty million barrels of oil, the world uses over eighty million.
You can not make this up with solar, not if you want to stay economically competitive, you need to go in for it all.
For example, in Uldarious we use a mix of Geothermal and hydroelectric plants, however we use oil as our primary fuel.

By the way, can I invest in Python oil?

A GASN Member investing in a CA Affliate Conglomerate? Go ahead, we don't limit your economy but politically that might be a bad idea.