NationStates Jolt Archive


Slaves for sale

Strator
14-02-2007, 12:36
The great and almighty Strator has decreed that all crimes which we enforce capital punishment upon have been re-evaluated. From hence on, we have decided to be more humane, all those caught with crimes such as talking too loud shall no longer be limited to the death penalty. We shall now give the option of paying a fine limited to a minimum of 500,000 pebbles (US$478,092) and then being auctioned off as a slave in any country which permits slavery. We currently have roughly 5000 people ready to be shipped off as slaves, place a bid on one of these categories to be sold in you country. If you have need of a manpower for construction, here is your help!

800 Male slaves of average 6'1"
Starting bids are at 180 million dollars

1200 Male slaves with some form of illness
Starting bids are at 50 million dollars

1400 Male slaves under age 15
Starting bids are at 170 million dollars

1600 Female slaves any age and health
Starting bids at 100 million dollars

*Transport costs are not included and we take no responsibility for damaged merchandise
Strator
14-02-2007, 12:41
Keep checking for updates on new slave shipments, to whom we sell will be based on the highest bid that remains highest for one day
Heggiedom
14-02-2007, 14:25
I would like to bid for the 1200 Male slaves with some form of illness with 60 million dollars. We will use these speciemens in cloning experiments, as well as gentic engineering.
No Taxes
14-02-2007, 14:31
No Taxes People Trading Corporation (NTPT Co.) would like 400 male slaves with no illness and 700 male slaves under 15, to do heavy labour work. Our starting bid for these 1100 slaves is $175 million.
Strator
14-02-2007, 14:45
$60 million is our Bid for the sick slaves!
Goooooooooooing Once, Gooooooooing twice...
Note to NTPT co.

The No taxes people trading corporation is in luck because although this is an auction, we have just received word from our main police department, and we shall be able to make that shipment.At the moment we do not have enough slaves to start a store so Im afraid we cannot make any other shipments which seperate the merchandise from their numbers, but I would beleive that a store shall be ready in two days.

The slaves are ready for transportation, will you be sending the money now or after delivery?
No Taxes
14-02-2007, 14:46
We will be sending half the money now and the other half once the shipment of slaves have arrived.
Strator
14-02-2007, 14:51
Money received, sending now

We hope you use strator slave delivery for all your slave trade needs:)
The Aeson
14-02-2007, 15:03
OOC: Two things. First, quick word of advice, don't use smilies in IC posts. Second, have you considered the effects this would have on your nation? As a relatively small nation, if this gets out of control, you could end up significantly damaging your population...
Vault 10
14-02-2007, 15:43
--== WASTELAND SCOURGE ==--
A Profiteering Company
[Secret IC]

Inquire: Do you have any oil, tungsten, uranium or placer deposits?

We are planning to proceed with procurement unless slave trade is halted.

With best wishes,
Arnold Herbert.



[ OOC notice: Corporations are independent, and not always allied. ]
Rosdivan
14-02-2007, 16:23
Notice from the Commonwealth Navy of Rosdivan

Any ship or aircraft believed to be involved with the slave trade in the nation of Strator will be halted and inspected. Should evidence of involvement be found, it will be seized by the Commonwealth Navy. Refusal to permit such a search will result in the Commonwealth Navy sinking or shooting down any such vessel.

Ultimatum from the Supreme Commonwealth of Rosdivan to the Dominion of Strator

You are to immediately halt all slavery within your borders, emancipate those currently enslaved, and refrain from the selling of slaves. Failure to do so will result in military action.
Skgorria
14-02-2007, 16:23
The Skgorrian government would like to purchase 1600 Female slaves, we will wire $150 million on confirmation. They deserve better than to be sold on the slave block, and will given productive and fulfilling lives in our nation.
Vetaka
14-02-2007, 16:38
Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Strator Forigen Office/Supreme Commonwealth of Rosdivan
From: Vetakan Forigen Office

Subject: Slavery

The Dominion calls for an immediate end to this Slave Trade. It is sick and morally wrong to imprision a person as a slave. We support the stance taken by the Supreme Commonwealth of Rosdivan. The Dominion of Vetaka imposes Trade Sanctions on Strator. Any Ship or Plane carrying slaves that enters or comes within 50 Miles of Vetakan Waters or airspace will be seized. Any Vessal or Aircraft that refuses to co-operate will be fired upon.

Yours Dominion of Vetaka Forigen Affairs Secretary Alex Hawken
Clandonia Prime
14-02-2007, 16:56
Official Clandonian Response

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His Majesty's government is disgusted by the current dealing in human beings in Strator. Like wise with our Vetkan, Sovereign League allies we denounce this evil despicable act and we will prepare an air and naval blockade orchestrated by the Clandonian Royal Navy and Royal Naval Air Force.

End these actions before we use force to end the reign of terror that the Stratorian government perpetrates.

Lord Heseltine

Minister for Foreign Affairs
The Phoenix Milita
14-02-2007, 17:11
In response to this violation of a sovereign nation's rights as well as established international customs, the Phoenix Milita has decided to formally sever all trade relations with Dominion of Vetaka, which appears to intend to seize and fire upon ships located within international waters.

Although The Phoenix Milita has had no formal relations with them, all hopes for future trade relations with Clandonia Prime and Rosdivan have been destroyed as permanent embargoes have been imposed, due to the rash actions of their government.

-Secretary of State E. Perez
The Transylvania
14-02-2007, 17:18
Should the United Dominion end this slave trade here and now? ~ The Count
Vetaka
14-02-2007, 17:42
Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: All Nations
From: Office Dominion of Vetaka President & Lord Governor

I Daniel Pearce President and Lord Govenor of The Dominion of Vetaka would like to formally apologise to all nations for the comments made by Alex Hawken. Whom was until a few minutes ago the Forigen Affairs Secretary. The Dominion is fully aware of international law and would never enter international waters or international airspace with the intent on firing on a Ship or Plane belonging to another Sovereign nation.

Altough I apologise for the previous comments made by Alex Hawken in regard to entering International Waters and Airspace. I must re-confirm Vetaka's positions on Slaves and Slavery.

Yours Dominion of Vetaka President Lord-Govenor Daniel Pearce
New Nicksyllvania
14-02-2007, 18:29
Official Statement by the Nicksyllvanian Empire:
The Nicksyllvanian Empire is appauled at this barbaric practice. We suggest that for the preservation and the advancement of humanity, that you eventually give up such a practice.

We wish to bid for:
1400 Male slaves under age 15 170 Million Dollars (USD)
1600 Female slaves any age 100 million dollars (USD)
For a total of 270 Million Dollars, to be paid visa by the Imperial Bank of Nicksyllvania

Upon arrival they will be liberated and made 3rd class citizens (serfs) to the Ever Glorious and Righteous, Nicksyllvanian Empire.
Khemari
14-02-2007, 18:31
The Empire of Khemari, while not interested in such a slave trade, would like to remind all nations offended by such an auction that these people are becoming slaves instead of being given the death penalty for whatever tiny infraction passes for a crime in Strator. These are in no means innocents in the eyes of Strator, and if you would prefer that people are killed as opposed to be sold as slaves then feel free to combat Strators decision, or even easier, fire upon the ships carrying helpless slaves, killing them and whatever innocents work as the crew.

Please continue with your immoral actions, be your choice the trade of slaves or the murder of thousands.
Havvy
14-02-2007, 20:36
all those caught with crimes such as talking too loud shall no longer be limited to the death penalty. We shall now give the option of paying a fine limited to a minimum of 500,000 pebbles (US$478,092) and then being auctioned off as a slave in any country which permits slavery.

Most countries are against you. This one is also. We are not against you for slave trade, although that is a part of it. Instead, we are against it because of your obvious disregard for civil rights. Although we can not attack your nation, we can, and will put trade sanctions on your nation until you stop this disregard for human rights!

Joint Statement

Jerry Sophrone
Dictator of Havvy

--- - --- (OOC: Unknown)
Minister of the Economy
Southern Colombia
14-02-2007, 21:21
Office of the President of the Allied States of Southern Colombia.

My people are appalled at this and I have set aside a special budget of 500 million dollars to purchase all slaves. When they arrive at our lands they will be treated as normal citizens, given a education, and provided all the freedoms human beings deserve!
No Taxes
14-02-2007, 23:05
The No Taxes Government has issued a statement saying that any seizure of the shipment of slaves to No Taxes will be considered an extremely hostile act and will be backed by trade embargoes and possibly military action. We remind all nations that in many countries criminals are treated worse than slaves, and that the way criminals are punished is no business of other countries. We fully support Strator in their decision.
The Scandinvans
14-02-2007, 23:28
Though we do not like the fact that fifteen year olds are being sold we regard the use of forced labor of abults for their crimes to be no different from this form of slavery and thus since they would face the death penalty otherwise we shall not view this postively nor negatively.
Havvy
14-02-2007, 23:31
such as talking too loud shall

"You sir have talked to loud. We will now arrest you and force you to pay 500,000 pebbles before we sell you to some random country. Enjoy your life as a slave you evil person!"

Do I not see human rights being violated of those who HAVEN'T broken the law? I am sorry, but first of all, you can't measure sound unless your police has Db Tools, and even then, it would be hard to tell where the sound came from! Lower your laws to that of a sane person. That is not a sane law, especially since hey, you didn't even say what too loud was. I propose that anybody who says anything over -1 Db (an impossible Db level) shall be arrest! Oh look, everybody here is now arrested. Go get 'em cops!

I want to see military action on this disgraceful nation, and I want to see it now!

Jerry Sophrone
Dictator of Havvy
Vault 10
14-02-2007, 23:31
OOC:

Are the slaves circumcised?
Clandonia Prime
14-02-2007, 23:34
OOC:

Are the slaves circumcised?

OOC: That's my officially nominated 'WTF Comment of the Day'!
Amazonian Beasts
14-02-2007, 23:37
Public IC:

Addressed to the Nation of Strator, Foreign Relations and Economics Departments

The Amazonian Dominion wishes to purchase all 1600 female slaves for $300 million USD. Once in Dominion possession, we are planning to free them and allow them fulfilling lives-but you will have your payment.
On the other hand, should Strator refuse this to pass, than the female slaves will still live fulfilling lives-when the Dominion liberates them by force.

Your choice. The first option is certainly the smarter one.
Strator has forty-eight hours to accept.

-Dominion Foreign Affairs
Silver Star HQ
14-02-2007, 23:45
Official SSHQ response

The SSHQ is appaled by the selling of slaves. Unless the slave trade is immediately halted, SSHQ, and by extention our colonies Cathago Nova and Silver Star colony (OOC: Original name, eh) will be forced to declare war on Strator

OOC: This smilely (link posted) shows what our response can and will be

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Khemari
15-02-2007, 00:15
The Empire of Khemari wishes to offer our protection, if Strator wishes, to the ships of slaves if they are transported by sea. While we do not wish to get involved in any conflict, we see the lives of these five thousand who by our laws would be mostly innocent as important, and we wish to ensure that they are not slaughtered by any who intend to attack said slaves out of principle against slavery rather than in concern of their well being.

We do not intend to prevent any hijacking of the slave ships, as we care little if the slaves arrive to those who purchased them in this controversial auction, but if you wish for our navy to provide a small escort to bolster any defense they may have at present you have just to ask.
Blackhelm Confederacy
15-02-2007, 00:24
The No Taxes Government has issued a statement saying that any seizure of the shipment of slaves to No Taxes will be considered an extremely hostile act and will be backed by trade embargoes and possibly military action. We remind all nations that in many countries criminals are treated worse than slaves, and that the way criminals are punished is no business of other countries. We fully support Strator in their decision.

The Griffincrest Corporation warns all nations that if a Corporate Alliance member has their shipping threatened, the offending party will come under attack by the CA. Both No Taxes and Skgorria are CA members, and attacks on them will account as a declaration of war.
Kolvokia
15-02-2007, 00:29
We wish to inquire whether these criminals may be purchased according to their crimes.
New Nicksyllvania
15-02-2007, 00:33
The Nicksyllvanian Empire raises its bid for the 1600 female slaves to $320 Million.
Ghost Tigers Rise
15-02-2007, 00:40
The Griffincrest Corporation warns all nations that if a Corporate Alliance member has their shipping threatened, the offending party will come under attack by the CA. Both No Taxes and Skgorria are CA members, and attacks on them will account as a declaration of war.

OOC: Hey, BC, long time, no see.
IC:

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The Commonwealth of Ghost Tigers Rise is willing to post a bid of Four Thousand Million (4,000,000,000) USD for all slaves on the auction block, for their immediate release in a county willing to accept them. We are willing to pay such an exhorbitant amount because it is less expensive to us than an aerial and naval blockade of your nation. However, if you are unwilling to make this deal, you will see Riser ships and aircraft alongside Amazonian and Clandonian ones.

-Ciaran Lynch
-Comissar of Foreign Affairs
-Commonwealth of Ghost Tigers Rise
Havvy
15-02-2007, 00:43
OOC: I believe you are look for 'Four Billion'...
Ghost Tigers Rise
15-02-2007, 00:44
OOC: I believe you are look for 'Four Billion'...

OOC: No, IC, that's a thousand times more than I'm willing to pay. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion
And I believe you are looking for 'looking'.

EDIT: p.s., do the math. The product of one thousand and one million is the same as the standard American definition of 'billion'.
Terran Tribes
15-02-2007, 01:03
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The Foundation of Terran Tribes encourages any and all persons classified as "slaves" residing in the Dominion of Strator to oppose the current government. Any opposition group that should resist the oppressive government of Strator shall be provided monetary and material support so long as it can convincingly demonstrate a sincere respect for human rights and freedoms.

Any person of "slave" status that reaches the Foundation landmass or patrolled waters will be offered amnesty. Any foreign vessel or aircraft traveling Foundation patrolled waters or airspace that is believed to be carrying "slaves" will be forced to submit to inspection. Vessels and aircraft found to be transporting, or configured to transport, slaves will be impounded and its crew will be charged with transportation, possession, and/or conspiracy to transport and possess illegal cargo.

All economic trade between the Foundation and the corrupt nation of Strator will hence forth be embargoed until such time as the government of Strator shows convincing and sincere respect for human rights and freedoms. Any countries' vessels or aircraft traveling through Foundation patrolled waters and airspace will face economic sanctions up to and including embargo as the situation warrants.

Slavery will not be tolerated.
Mer des Ennuis
15-02-2007, 02:19
An Open Announcement from General of the Home Guard and Arch Arsonist, Adam Wincenty

The almighty nation of Mer des Ennuis would like to procure male "slaves" who have been convicted of a violent crime, not limited to robbery, assault, and murder, yet found to be of sound mental stature. We do not believe, however, that ridding your nation of scum and villany should cost $225,000 a head, as we can train a soldier for the same price. If you are willing to come down in price for a larger amount of "slaves", say, 20,000 or so over the course of a year, we would be happy to sit at the table with you.

In my power as Arch Arsonist, I solemly advise all nations opposed to the trafficking of humans to cease and desist in idle threats of legitimate shipping. Mer des Ennuis and likeminded nations will not take kindly to threats against its nation's assets.

-Gen. Adam Wincenty
Arch Arsonist
"Fear Ensure's Loyalty!"
Alexandrian Ptolemais
15-02-2007, 02:35
SECRET COMMUNICATION

To whom it may concern,

The Duke of Morningside Island would be interested in purchasing all the slaves for the sum of six billion United States Dollars (based on yesterdays price of gold, that would be 36.2 million Gold Denarii). The Duke wishes to indicate that he does have the wealth to purchase all slaves, however, it may take him a month to prepare payment in either gold, Alexandrian Ptolemais Gold Denarii banknotes, United States Dollar banknotes or Strator pebbles.

The Duke also wishes to indicate his wish to rename the transaction. Within the Empire, slavery is illegal, however, on the outer islands, slavery still exists due to the distance from the law and order that exists within the provinces nearer the capital. The Duke wishes to keep the truth behind this transaction as discreet as possible so as to avoid the possibility of prosecution under Alexandrian Ptolemais law.

The male slaves will be used on quarrying and mining projects in the outer islands, while the female slaves will be used as domestic slaves.

Yours Sincerely

Mr. F. G. Ewington
Secretary to the Duke of Morningside Island
Otares
15-02-2007, 02:49
(OOC: Before I make an IC post with some unappreciated bravado and the like I must ask, Strator what kind of RPs are you looking to be involved in? I ask because a nation being this blatant with their slave trade would warrant a certain type of response from me – but I don’t want to begin a RP that you don’t care to participate in.)
The Fedral Union
15-02-2007, 03:04
Message from the United States department of foreign affairs:
Subject: slaves

The United states is appalled by these practices we will not tolerate this disgusting and shameless treatment of human life, we will support Clandonia Prime, In any way, our own navy , air force and marine core will be mobilized to support actions against your country, we call for nations with civilized people for support
Korbonis
15-02-2007, 03:06
OOC: I am quite new at RP, so please gently let me know if I am encroaching on some unspoken rule.

IC:

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The United Socialist States of Korbonis cannot stand for such a travesty to occur in the modern age.

We will stand against such decadent ways, and offer amnesty to all escaped slaves. I recommend that the Dominion of Strator cease this slave trade immediately, due to the eminent backlash from the international community. From our standing point, you appear to have three choices:

1) Sentence these criminals in accordance with international law.
2) Deport these criminals to willing countries for punishment, in accordance with international law.
3) Stay your course of action, and endure blockades and embargoes at the very least, invasion at the very worst, of course in accordance with international law.

The Korbonisite nation does not mean to threaten any nation's independence through either force of our arms, or our allies arms, as we are a primarily pacifist nation. However, we seek to act as a mediator to come to a healthy conclusion to this crisis. We offer to arrange multi-party talks in the neutral Korbonisite National Embassy Enclave.

Matthew Korbon
Overseer of the United Socialist States of Korbonis

More OOC: Just a note, the talks offered only mean the actual location of the talks, I dont mean move the RP to a different thread.
Kesshite
15-02-2007, 03:23
The Empire of Khemari, while not interested in such a slave trade, would like to remind all nations offended by such an auction that these people are becoming slaves instead of being given the death penalty for whatever tiny infraction passes for a crime in Strator. These are in no means innocents in the eyes of Strator, and if you would prefer that people are killed as opposed to be sold as slaves then feel free to combat Strators decision, or even easier, fire upon the ships carrying helpless slaves, killing them and whatever innocents work as the crew.

Please continue with your immoral actions, be your choice the trade of slaves or the murder of thousands.

Kesshite would ask that other nations people remember the words of the Khemari delegate. We also use forced labor as a punishment for various serious crimes, and do not believe it to be inhumane. Furthermore, the response of other nations, far from helping the lot of these slaves, may alternatively lead to their execution.

We have a hard time believing that powerful countries would, on humanitarian ground, prefer these people be put to death. Or, that they believe that hostilities would be less expensive than purchasing the slaves and naturalizing them.

Minister Havez
[Kayyat Province Seal]
Amazonian Beasts
15-02-2007, 03:34
Public Statement

The Amazonian Dominion is appalled that the nations of Khemari and Kesshite are willing to overlook the "crimes" of which are accused of being sentencable to death, and to overlook the inhumane practice of slavery; a practice through which victims have often wanted death to escape. That being said, the Dominion will do all it can to get these slaves and free them-despite what the Khemarin or Kesshitan governments may say.

Dominion Foreign Affairs
Korbonis
15-02-2007, 03:35
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You forget, Kesshite, that this is not simple hard labor. The USSK does not object to hard labor as a form of punishment for severe crimes, so long as it does not cause extensive bodily harm to the perpetrator.

However, this is the selling of a being into slavery, away from their homeland, and forced into an area against it's will. This is far different from serving penance in your own land.

Korbonis' offer to hold multi-party talks with nations opposed with the slave trade and with the Dominion of Strator still holds. We hope that the nations involved will cooperate.
Towering flames
15-02-2007, 04:31
"You sir have talked to loud. We will now arrest you and force you to pay 500,000 pebbles before we sell you to some random country. Enjoy your life as a slave you evil person!"

Do I not see human rights being violated of those who HAVEN'T broken the law? I am sorry, but first of all, you can't measure sound unless your police has Db Tools, and even then, it would be hard to tell where the sound came from! Lower your laws to that of a sane person. That is not a sane law, especially since hey, you didn't even say what too loud was. I propose that anybody who says anything over -1 Db (an impossible Db level) shall be arrest! Oh look, everybody here is now arrested. Go get 'em cops!

I want to see military action on this disgraceful nation, and I want to see it now!

Jerry Sophrone
Dictator of Havvy

you say in you statement that these slave have broken no laws. well this may be very true in your nation however your laws are not the same as every other nation and if strator deems talking to loud as illegal that nation has the right to do so as it is its own nation. im sure many nations have laws that most would deem as not being illegal however it is their right as a nation set laws of that nation and to request military action be taken against them for the laws they impose is just ridiculous.
Kesshite
15-02-2007, 04:41
To the Director of Amazonian Foreign Affairs,

The government of Kesshite is overlooking nothing. It is pointing out the foolishness of assaulting the people of a nation in the name of aiding humanitarian aid. No matter what governments tell themselves, bombing a city or attacking a ship full of slaves is murder on a grand scale and rarely harms government officials, but the populous at large.

Military action would be a poor response to this situation. Civilized societies use espionage and assassination to better the lives of the citizenry of other countries.

In addition, slavery need not be inhumane. As stated previously, Kesshite utilizes forced labor, yet our observations show that they have a higher quality of life than low wageworkers in many other countries.

We are not saying that the nation of Amazonian Beasts should not seace trade with nations whose moral compass is opposed to that of your own culture. We are pleased to see your offer to buy the slaves, and offer them a better life. It is the threat of military action that we see as ill advised.

Yours,
Minister Havez
[Kayyat Province Seal]
Abhallonia
15-02-2007, 04:43
[SIZE="4"]The great and almighty Strator has decreed that all crimes which we enforce capital punishment upon have been re-evaluated. From hence on, we have decided to be more humane, all those caught with crimes such as talking too loud shall no longer be limited to the death penalty. We shall now give the option of paying a fine limited to a minimum of 500,000 pebbles (US$478,092) and then being auctioned off as a slave in any country which permits slavery. We currently have roughly 5000 people ready to be shipped off as slaves, place a bid on one of these categories to be sold in you country. If you have need of a manpower for construction, here is your help!:rolleyes:
Abhallonia
15-02-2007, 04:44
[SIZE="4"]The great and almighty Strator has decreed that all crimes which we enforce capital punishment upon have been re-evaluated. From hence on, we have decided to be more humane, all those caught with crimes such as talking too loud shall no longer be limited to the death penalty. We shall now give the option of paying a fine limited to a minimum of 500,000 pebbles (US$478,092) and then being auctioned off as a slave in any country which permits slavery. We currently have roughly 5000 people ready to be shipped off as slaves, place a bid on one of these categories to be sold in you country. If you have need of a manpower for construction, here is your help!:rolleyes:

How can you sell slaves if the economy in NS is managed automatically?
Kesshite
15-02-2007, 04:49
To the appropriate Minister in Korbonis,

Firstly, my name is not Kesshite - that is the name of my country. My name is Havez. In that context, the sentence, "You forget, Kesshite, that this is not simple hard labor," makes little sense.

In regards to the message I recently received, I have forgotten no such thing. However, forcing the nation of Strator to change its laws in regards to slave trade, will not change its laws in regards to what is and is not illegal. The policy of Strator clashes with that of my own and that of many civilized countries, in that we are agreement.

However, I see military action as being ill advised in this circumstance. Your own offer to hold talks seems like the best suggestion offered so far.

Yours,
Minister Havez
[Kayyat Province Seal]
The Warmaster
15-02-2007, 04:50
:rolleyes:

How can you sell slaves if the economy in NS is managed automatically?

OOC: Roleplaying. You should read the stickies, trust me, they help.
Kesshite
15-02-2007, 04:50
:rolleyes:

How can you sell slaves if the economy in NS is managed automatically?

((OOC: It's called role-playing. His comments are In Character, as are the majority of replies. I think you should read the sticky at the top of the page before you continue posting on the RP forums.))
Mer des Ennuis
15-02-2007, 04:56
From: Adam Wincenty
To: State Department, Amazonian Beasts
Re: Slave Trade in Strator
Encryption: Elliptic curve cipher grade 3

Let me say this right off the bat: I care as much about the positions of Khemari and Kesshite as I do about The Fedral Union. I'd just as soon invade and enslave their populaces as I would purchase convicts from Tyrandis or Strator. However, you are different, and I'm sure you are well aware of it. I do not lead some pissant nation, and neither do you, but allow me to make my point clear: Should Mer des Ennuis procure convicts for the purposes of purifying work and combat, do not interfere. You may bitch around the peons, but do not attempt to provoke your equals. Is the potential death of entire cities worth the ivory tower idea of equality for the condemned? Freedom of the seas is necessary for commerce of all kinds, regardless of whether you consider it legitimate or not. I hope I have made my position clear.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
"Fear Ensures Loyalty!"
Southern Colombia
15-02-2007, 04:56
TOP SECRET COMMUNIQUE FROM THE ANONYMOUS CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTION FORCE -ACRPF

CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT - TO ALL NATIONS INVOLVED IN A STANCE AGAINST THE TRANSFER OF THE KESSHITE SLAVES

The ACRPF in union with a undisclosed goverment has decided to launch several UAV devices over the nation of Kesshia. This UAV will attempt to determine the location of these slaves. Several spies amongst our sources in Kesshia have sent us information. Saddly it is not enought.

A proposal to any nation interested in aiding us we need.

Satellital Images Any information from your sources in Kesshia Neutral Base of Operations


The ACRPF will launch a rescue mission in 6 days. Stealth aircraft will be flown at high altitude from which our Special Operation troops will parachute with oxygen masks. They will set up a base of operations and perform a extremely covert stealth mission grabbing the slaves and boarding them onto MV-22 Osprey's that will quickly fly them at top speed and heigh to a neutral base of operations. The place where the Slaves where being held or the trucks where they were being transported in will be planted with massive amounts of explosive. These devices will be detonated and a banner of a known terrorist group will be planted in the debre. This mission requires the utmost silence and secrecy from anyone who has this information. If you are interested in providing troops, vehicles, or any other useful items send a encoded blowfish message on Shortwave band channel 11200 mhz with passcode: Operation TPP.
Kesshite
15-02-2007, 06:04
TOP SECRET COMMUNIQUE FROM THE ANONYMOUS CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTION FORCE -ACRPF

CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT - TO ALL NATIONS INVOLVED IN A STANCE AGAINST THE TRANSFER OF THE KESSHITE SLAVES

The ACRPF in union with a undisclosed goverment has decided to launch several UAV devices over the nation of Kesshia. This UAV will attempt to determine the location of these slaves. Several spies amongst our sources in Kesshia have sent us information. Saddly it is not enought.

A proposal to any nation interested in aiding us we need.

Satellital Images Any information from your sources in Kesshia Neutral Base of Operations


The ACRPF will launch a rescue mission in 6 days. Stealth aircraft will be flown at high altitude from which our Special Operation troops will parachute with oxygen masks. They will set up a base of operations and perform a extremely covert stealth mission grabbing the slaves and boarding them onto MV-22 Osprey's that will quickly fly them at top speed and heigh to a neutral base of operations. The place where the Slaves where being held or the trucks where they were being transported in will be planted with massive amounts of explosive. These devices will be detonated and a banner of a known terrorist group will be planted in the debre. This mission requires the utmost silence and secrecy from anyone who has this information. If you are interested in providing troops, vehicles, or any other useful items send a encoded blowfish message on Shortwave band channel 11200 mhz with passcode: Operation TPP.

((OOC:
My nation's name is Kesshite, not Kesshia.
Secondly, I'm not transferring slaves. The majority of my 'slaves' are scattered throughout the nation in various jails.
Thirdly, you can have spies in my nation, as our borders are quite open. However, please TG me or talk to me OOC about what information you plan to gather, as I'd ask you to RP gathering classified information. The location of Kesshite's major prisons would be common knowledge.

Thank you, and welcome to the board))
Wagdog
15-02-2007, 06:30
TOP SECRET COMMUNIQUE FROM THE ANONYMOUS CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTION FORCE -ACRPF

CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT - TO ALL NATIONS INVOLVED IN A STANCE AGAINST THE TRANSFER OF THE KESSHITE SLAVES

The ACRPF in union with a undisclosed goverment has decided to launch several UAV devices over the nation of Kesshia. This UAV will attempt to determine the location of these slaves. Several spies amongst our sources in Kesshia have sent us information. Saddly it is not enought.

A proposal to any nation interested in aiding us we need.

Satellital Images Any information from your sources in Kesshia Neutral Base of Operations


The ACRPF will launch a rescue mission in 6 days. Stealth aircraft will be flown at high altitude from which our Special Operation troops will parachute with oxygen masks. They will set up a base of operations and perform a extremely covert stealth mission grabbing the slaves and boarding them onto MV-22 Osprey's that will quickly fly them at top speed and heigh to a neutral base of operations. The place where the Slaves where being held or the trucks where they were being transported in will be planted with massive amounts of explosive. These devices will be detonated and a banner of a known terrorist group will be planted in the debre. This mission requires the utmost silence and secrecy from anyone who has this information. If you are interested in providing troops, vehicles, or any other useful items send a encoded blowfish message on Shortwave band channel 11200 mhz with passcode: Operation TPP.
OOC: Glad to see you pruned your spam posts. Welcome!:D Kesshite, Strator, although your my sources in both your countries are poor at the moment, could I RP setting them up (with the appropriate risks of course)? I like spying, 'nuff said.:cool:

Encrypting Data
Acquiring Frequency......Acquired.
Sending Password......Confirmed.
From: Mario Iliescu, Secretrary of Defense, United Socialist States of Wagdog
To: Anonymous Civil Rights Protection Force (ACRPF)

We must admit, this whole situation had us perplexed until now. Myself and some friends had been inclined to advocate the purchase these people in order to free them, but our more supposedly 'ethical' peers in the Revolutionary Command Council refused to even consider it. Your offer gives me something I can take to them. Plus an opportunity for some action if things go wrong at least...
We find Strator's laws on this matter revolting; we employ convict labor ourselves of course, but for terms not to exceed a maximum of 25 years for non-capital felonies; and only in State industries where accountability can be ensured. So reactionary an institution as slavery must be rooted out and destroyed. Most of all if used for such minor offenses as simply 'talking too loud.' Great Dracula's ghost, I thought our State Security Agency had heard about everything in the various depraved nations out there. Obviously not so...
We're in the midst of a military modernization, so the degree of cover we can provide you is iffy. However, you may have your "neutral base;" on our outlying island of Shoe. We do suggest operations against Strator rather than Kesshite, though, since we're generally of their opinion that convict labor is acceptable (if regrettable) and does not constitute "slavery" as such. Besides, our sources in Kesshite are poor anyway at the moment; too poor to assist you probably. But ours in Strator can be somewhat improved in time, just possibly. Should the Stratorians refuse the various mediation offers or your mission fail, we'd be willing to cover what actions you take within our own capabilities, which are again in flux due to an ongoing modernization of our forces.
Sincerest Regards, and hopes for your success.
Southern Colombia
15-02-2007, 06:53
ooc: Your name just doesn't make sense when trying to speak of a singular nation. If any particularly interesting information were acquired im sure I would rp out all the acquirement of that information. Everything here is very generic and I don't dream to roll them out thas the supporters job. Eventually if you plan to sell these slaves you will have to gather them up. With a force trained in quick guerrila strikes we could gather them 5 at a time if its a must. And I think I mixed up on the nation holding these salves. If so just switch it in your mind.

IC:

A cryptic letter is sent to the front door of the nation of Wagdog's Capital Building. Five Elegant letters are painted in red on the front. ACRPF, Inside a blank sheet of paper and a microdot lie. The microdot reads.

Message received. Stop.

Our goal is to prevent military actions. Stop.

Stay tuned to shortwave frequencies for future instructions. Stop.

Burn this. Stop.
Kesshite
15-02-2007, 07:27
(((OOC: Kesshite 'sounds wrong' to you because it doesn't fit English morphology. This is because my nation is not made up of English speakers.

What makes you think Kesshite would sell its citizenry?

Prisoners in Kesshite do labor that benefits the community, such as maintaining roads. Last time I checked, the US does the same thing. In some provinces, debtors are pressed into indentured servitude. Military service is mandatory. Farmers can be pressed into labor during some seasons.

Eh, whatever, if I ever decide the Kesshite government does what you're suggesting, I shall make sure that you know, so your government can attempt to rescue them.))
Strator
15-02-2007, 11:30
To all those concerened with human rights and all of that hippy, hoppy, frolic in the fields lifestyle, I do not intend to stop the slavery in my country. I hope that you do not turn to violence to solve this as I am perfectly willing to sell these people to you, and if you wish, you can free them. My nation may not be as mighty and established in this world as others, but I assure you, any hostile acts WILL lead to war. That is all I shall say to you pitiful peoples.

To those who wish to aquire the merchandise, I shall open the store immeadiatly to standardise prices, I will need you to make your requests again at the store. Thank you for your co-operation
Vault 10
15-02-2007, 11:37
--== WASTELAND SCOURGE ==--
A Profiteering Company
[Open Message]

Please reply: are your slaves circumcised?


With best wishes,
Arnold Herbert.
Strator
15-02-2007, 12:16
Circumcision depends on the crime, they also may cricumcised on request of a buyer
Otares
15-02-2007, 13:28
The act was fairly symbolic in nature – what with Otares having little to no external trade. None of which constituted anything vital to the national interest. But is was a tentative step towards a more liberalized foreign policy. The crowned prince signed off on the papers, having checked and rechecked the message. He now began to rifle through his files and find a suitable general to task with the new security arrangements…

Official Statement from the Otariet Foreign Ministry
(Broadcast in English)

The Kingdom of Otares has adopted a new policy in regards to the following; trade relations with The Dominion of Strator, political relations with said Dominion, trade relations with said Dominion’s trading partners, political relations with said trading partners, and the legal treatment of any citizens of the aforementioned Dominion.

First: No relations are to be had with The Dominion of Strator until said time as they reject their policy of chattel slavery referenced here; Article 1a (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518037) , Article 1b (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518169) Pursuant to the belief, and operational doctrine, that all men and women were created equal our Kingdom will not tolerate such blatant transgressions by our peers.

As such all Otariet airspace, maritime holdings, sea zones, and territory is off limits to Strator nationals.

No vessel – regardless of country of origin – will travel from Strator to Otares; with the possible exception of refugees and other clauses covered under the Otariet Humanities Act.

No vessel registered with The Dominion of Strator – irregardless of port of origin – will travel to Otares

No vessel piloted by a Strator National will travel to Otares.

All Startor vessels – civilian or otherwise - encountered on the high seas by his majesty’s navy will be informed that they are classified as ‘belligerent’ and as such be expected to conform to a certain standard of deference. Failing that they will be informed that they are risking being classified as ‘hostile’ – and responded to as such.

Second: All trade relations between The Dominion of Strator and The Kingdom of Otares are hereby ended without exception. The above articles clearly show that that The Dominion of Strator’s economic policy is bound into a slave based economy. It is our assertion that this backwards oriented model is incompatible with our own.

Any Otariet citizen found to be engaged in trade with Strator interests will be tried for treason.

Any Strator economic interest which makes overtures to any Otariet branch of government is to be rejected and reported to the Foreign Ministry.

Any Startor economic interest which persists attempting to open market relations with Otariet economic interests will be considered a foreign privateer. They will be taken prisoner and can be negotiated for vis-à-vis parley at a later date.

Third: Our Kingdom does recognize that in the contemporary economy profit by proxy is increasingly common. Measures are to be taken to insure that such profit is minimized.

Any country who is found to be doing business with Strator economic interests will have their own interests – within Otariet jurisdiction – taxed at a rate of no less thirty two percent.

Any country who is later found to be engaged in transactions with Strator interests will have the same penalty applied retroactively to this date.

A bureau for the betterment of those Strator nationals who find themselves to be slaves will be created from the taxed money. This bureau will operate as a defacto ministry but will not receive political representation within the Otariet court. This bureau is authorized to negotiate with Strator with the mandate that the forefront of all negotiations will be the question of slavery.

The aforementioned bureau is hereby named: Strator Organ for Freeman (SOF)

The SOF is authorized to provide welfare and social aide to all Strator slaves – present or former – regardless of their current residence.

The SOF is authorized to petition his majesty for the use of military force

The SOF is authorized to form connections with other like minded organizations on the international scene.

Fourth: While we do recognize the lack of practical concern this statement might carry the nature of the Strator slave question behooves us to urge any and all nations to denounce The Dominion of Strator.

Any nation which possess an Otariet embassy – and has not yet denounced the aforementioned Dominion – will receive an official petition to do so. Nation who still refuse to denounce Strator will see a formal request from his majesty using the strongest language possible.

Finally: To ensure that the above is processed any Strator national which comes into Otariet custody will be afforded the same treatment prescribed to privateers.
Vault 10
15-02-2007, 13:29
[ OOC: You evasive tricker... Are you just generally careful, or understood that I would turn it into a justification for invasion whether they were circumcised or not? (Either for selling incomplete slaves or for passing off second-grade goods.) But don't worry... ]
No Taxes
15-02-2007, 14:19
Official Statement of the No Taxes Foreign Ministry
No Taxes repeats its stance that if a single one of the transports carrying slaves purchased by a corporation from No Taxes is boarded or stopped illegally, such nations shall be met with the full force of the Corporate Alliance.
Strator
15-02-2007, 14:26
To the Otares Foreign ministry

I beleive you were trying to make a point by pressuring other nations into opposing me, but I feel that it will make no impact upon my slave trading industry. My country has different laws, customs and policies to yours and I feel that people who are to be killed, being given the chance to live some sort of life and even gain freedom is a good deal for those people. Im sure you have your reasons for opposing this action, but to bring other countries who possibly and probably have no opposition towards my policies is not a course of action fitting for this.
Heggiedom
15-02-2007, 15:25
The nation of Heggiedom2 is willing to send our finest clone soliders to war with any who stop the shippements to Heggiedom2 or attempt to free any of the slaves. we will attack without hessitation.
Rosdivan
15-02-2007, 15:30
Strator ports are now closed due to mining (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12332828&posted=1#post12332828)
Questers
15-02-2007, 20:23
The Griffincrest Corporation warns all nations that if a Corporate Alliance member has their shipping threatened, the offending party will come under attack by the CA. Both No Taxes and Skgorria are CA members, and attacks on them will account as a declaration of war.

The Crown Imperium warns all slave-trading nations that if one of its allies - or its friends is declared war on by the Corporate Alliance while freeing slaves, we will defend our ally. As far as we are aware, our maritime power far excedes anything you can hope to match. Support slavery at your peril.

Dispatched to the area where a pair of supercarriers, Shokaku and Zuikaku, four light carriers, Chitose, Conquerer, Chieftain, and Calliope with their respective task groups to ensure that if hostilities broke out, there'd be a Questarian naval force there to influence things.
Purpleplexity
15-02-2007, 22:28
The Dictatorship of Purpleplexity is outraged at the practice of human slave trading.

We therefore bid 200 million for 3200 Orion Slave Girls :p :D
Amazonian Beasts
15-02-2007, 22:46
To the Mer de Ennius State Department

We care nothing for your nation-it is not our equal, or anywhere close. And it is obvious you have not even bothered to pay any attention to our recent communications, where we threatened action against Stratus, not those involved in purchase. Due to the clumsiness and misreading of Mer de Ennius officials, it is now your nation that is the belligerent.
If the nation of Mer de Ennius would like a war, than the Amazonian Dominion would be happy to oblige. Your cities shall burn in ashes and people shall suffer the consequences of fate. We shall not instigate, though if you even attempt any move against any Amazonian individual, the Dominion wrath shall be severe. Your threats, stemming from the obvious paranoia of the nation of Mer de Ennius, can be served if wished.

Best Regards,
Amazonian State Department
Mer des Ennuis
15-02-2007, 23:05
OOC: I'm just going by nation size here: you're only 300 milion above me in terms of population (how a nation with 46% of its GDP spent on arms doesn't collapse is beyond me) as equals. I also grossly misread your statement.

To: Amazonian State Department
From: Rex Spunkmeyer, Foreign Liaison
Re: Misunderstanding

Allow me to be the first to apologize, the State Department official(s) involved in this faux paus apparently took your communiqués as being threats to any nation found to be importing slaves from Strator, such as Kesshite at Khemari, not solely limited to Strator. For this we apologize. The officials in question have been disavowed and presumed dead, to ensure this will not happen again. As a token of our leader's most sincere apology, please accept a shipment of 5 cases of our finest Ennusian Scotch, both single and blended malt. Again, we apologize for our misunderstanding.

-Rex Spunkmeyer
Foreign Liaison, Damage Control Department
Amazonian Beasts
16-02-2007, 03:04
OOC: Just to clarify-that was IC opinion, not OOC opinion whatsoever. RP with me enough and you'll discover my national leaders are somewhat hostile-just the way I like to RP, for kicks.
46% is beyond me, but if that's what NStracker likes to tell me, I'll take it.

IC:

Addressed to the nation of Mer des Ennuis

We accept your apology. We do acknolwedge that we responded rather rashly in this time of strained tensions over this singuar issue-and do reiterate that we only meant directed action against Strator, as the source; not against any other nation. We are thankful for the five cases of Scoth, and will make good use of them.

Amazonian State Department
Vault 10
16-02-2007, 03:43
OOC:
Actually, a nation can even have 100% GDP military budget. Guess what will change if US right now introduces 100% tax and gives it all to the military? Right, not much - people will still be paid, and country will just start to militarize, but not drastically.

Once the military spending exceeds a certain amount, maybe around 5-10% GDP (don't forget GDP includes tossing money inside the country, like services, and only a smaller fraction is actual production), it no longer goes where it goes now - it will supply the entire infrastructure, actual military spending being the same 5%, 10% top (including wages).

This is actually in part true even for smaller budgets. For instance, a tiny military will buy off-the-shelf equipment and hire already trained people, spending only the dry direct expenses. A more serious, RL average military has to train soldiers, fund production and development projects. A massive military like USian has to pay for training, expenses and pensions of the personnel, fund science to give the base for developments, fund large companies, pay to steer the progress the needed way, pay for space and aviation development of the country (civvie planes are affordable only because the military has already paid for the most costly developments). A disproportional one like in late Cold War Soviet Union just turns into another part of the country, funding things normally funded by other budget areas or just maintained by private businesses - and that was just about 10-15%. Well, and the 100% extreme will just make military equate civilian.
Growing larger than 5-10% (there hardly is any difference) only makes the military the "second budget", not really puts more GDP to warfare - everything is already aimed at it, but a country has to be developed in all directions to provide it.

So there's nothing wrong in insane mil budgets, as long as one understands where they really go.
Southern Colombia
16-02-2007, 08:52
ooc: from another thread

ic:

The president coughed a troubled look on his face. "It's come to this eh?" He held a piece of paper in his hand nervously eying the gin tonic set on his desk. He took a sip and stood up preparing to offer one of the hardest speeches of his life.

He stepped out onto the balcony of the presidential palace cameras flashing before him. He gently eyed the podium and set his hand on his forehead in a nervous gesture before speaking.

"People of Southern Colombia, you have spoken. In a historic act you have voted to overturn our non-agrresion policies and join in war on the nation of Strator. 8 million of you voted and of those 8 million 7 supported the effort to stop Strator's slave trade at all cost. It is with a heavy heart I adress this country for I desire nothing but peace. But being as the people have spoken it is my duty as a representative of the people to follow their commands."

He sighted gently.

"Strator I join many other countries in this. You have 24 hours to cease all slave trade or with God as my witness you will be blown to smithereens. Your country shall be wiped of the face of the planet and your people will be freed and allowed to live life with all the comforts of freedom you did not grant them. This is your last chance to avoid concentration. If you do not it is off my hands it is the choice of the people of this country."

"We fully expect to support any allies who want to attack strator because of this situation as well. We pledge full support to any war effort that may arise."


He sighed again and walked back off the platform.
Otares
16-02-2007, 10:12
To the Otares Foreign ministry

I beleive you were trying to make a point by pressuring other nations into opposing me, but I feel that it will make no impact upon my slave trading industry. My country has different laws, customs and policies to yours and I feel that people who are to be killed, being given the chance to live some sort of life and even gain freedom is a good deal for those people. Im sure you have your reasons for opposing this action, but to bring other countries who possibly and probably have no opposition towards my policies is not a course of action fitting for this.

Return from the Strator Organ for Freemen

The SOF regrets to inform you that the only organization within Otares with whom you have the legal authority to communicate with is the SOF. Please make note of this for the future as all relations with Strator and The Kingdom of Otares are to be streamlined through the SOF.

The SOF also cheerfully informs you that the entire purpose of this governmental organ is to see to the end of your slave trade. Cultural relativism has been rejected by Otares in is foreign policy and as such we are well able to purport the position that – based on a higher moral code – your actions are wrong, evil, and vile. This devilishness will not be tolerated by Otares and as such we expect those we choose to associate with – and those who associate with our $105,546,312,877,556.23 markets – to be of one mind on this issue.

Regarding our influencing your relations unduly – we will not entertain that notion until you are no longer blockaded and still under the same ruler.
Allanea
16-02-2007, 10:59
"Now, did Congress approve the deployments against Strator?"

"Yes."

"Good. Order the aircraft into action in support of the Rosdivanians. As of now… say, twenty heavy bombers are enough. Just a warning shot."

And so, the glinting forms of 20 heavy S-1000 bombers made their way, moving at immense speeds, towards Strator. Even as they were en route, the message from Allanea was sent.

Hear us, slavers.

You are the worst life form on Earth.

You exist, only because nobody has yet stomped on your throats.

You live, because in his great kindness, our President had not yet ordered you dead.

Now, this will change. Allanea will expand her campaign against slavery into your borders –and unlike our friends the Rosdivanii we will not engage in empty diplomacy and pointless threats.

By our acts you shall know us.

What you receive now is a warning shot.

Even as the message would be received, the aircraft would achieve a point 450 kilometers from the Stratorian shore. Each would launch two long-range guided missiles, targeted at power plants and AA facilities close to the shores of the nation – without even entering it's territorial waters.

Then they would leave, letting the Stratorians give chase if they wanted.

Such was Allanea's warning shot.
Aust
16-02-2007, 11:39
From: His Imperial Highness, Emporer William the Thrid of Aust
To: The leader of Strator, whoever he may be

His Imperial Highness, the Emporer of AUst strongly advises you to cease in this weak and cowardly industry of Slave Trading. Such trades only lead to resentment and rebellion amoung the populance and the death of your econermy, more than that they also lead to widespread revulsion adn opposition amoung the International community.

As a nation of ex-traders who have fortuntly seen the light we advise you to cease this trade or face punitive action including sancitions, the distruction of any vessels or facilitys involved in the said trade and outright war should you persist in this action. We demand the freedom of all thsoe you hold captive and they shall be rehabilitated in Aust itself.

We do not wish tordestroy your antion, but we can have done so to such nations in the fast, Nuevo Kowloon, Cool Air, Vulpine States, Bambinio, all lie dead or as colonys as a testomny to Austian power. Do not let your nation of that way.
Strator
16-02-2007, 11:43
First of all, any agressive action towards the mighty nation of Strator will be met with similar hostility. Also, I would like to know why you people beleive i transport my slaves by sea... Sea transports are slow and can not reach countries with no bodies of water nearby. So my trading is totaly unnaffected by this.
The Ctan
16-02-2007, 12:10
First of all, any agressive action towards the mighty nation of Strator will be met with similar hostility. Also, I would like to know why you people beleive i transport my slaves by sea... Sea transports are slow and can not reach countries with no bodies of water nearby. So my trading is totaly unnaffected by this.

OOC: Possibly because I, at least, have roleplayed sending a ship to buy them. Given that, can I go ahead with the pickup and so on, now?

As for sea travel; it costs a lot less in bulk than air travel. Hence the use of ships IRL.
Aust
16-02-2007, 12:40
First of all, any agressive action towards the mighty nation of Strator will be met with similar hostility. Also, I would like to know why you people beleive i transport my slaves by sea... Sea transports are slow and can not reach countries with no bodies of water nearby. So my trading is totaly unnaffected by this.

OOC: Mate, if you wan tto go head to ehad with me fine, but I'd take my advice because I'm slightly more powerful than you.

Also, if you don't lose sea you use air, and the Austian Emporer isn't called the lord of the air for nothing. Our navys reltivly weak but our air pwoer is huge.
Strator
16-02-2007, 14:37
I do not wish to go to war, but hostile actions will not be tolerated. If you wish for the slave to live better live then you may buy them and free them. Otherwise, do not expect me to sway
Silver Star HQ
16-02-2007, 14:42
OOC: There is no way you could reasonably transport over 10,000 slaves by air

IC:
The SSHQ air force, consisting of

40 Sea Eagle Multi-Role Helicopters
80 AH-64 Apaches
64 CH-47 Chinook Helicopters
72 AV-8B Harrier II's
135F-22 Raptors
95 F-105 Thunderchiefs
110 X-35 JSFs
5 E-3 Sentries
10 Ogrillon G-33s ((Grendel-produced SVTOL)

launched from the Wasp and Tarawa class asault ships. They pounded the beach defenses. Missle after missle pounded beach guns and troops.

36 Tidal Wave Class LCACs moved up, clearing the mines ahead. 9 Phalanx Class Amphibious Assault Transport Ships and 8 hovercraft landed over 50,000 marines on the beaches, including 100 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks and 96 HMMWV Humvees, as well as 1,000 SSHQ "War Elephant" Tanks. ((Strong armor and cannon, slow movement))
Vault 10
16-02-2007, 14:52
Semi-OOC:
Unless he contracts with Aerospace Logistics, which, among others, serves a country where there is no land transport, and so the air fleet is immense.

But ALC will rather contract with the invaders, of course - slavery is inefficient, not even considering other factors.
Questers
16-02-2007, 15:22
OOC: There is no way you could reasonably transport over 10,000 slaves by air

Bah. I bet you could pack 500 slaves into a single An-225 if you wanted to.
Aust
16-02-2007, 16:24
OOC: There is no way you could reasonably transport over 10,000 slaves by air

IC:
The SSHQ air force, consisting of

40 Sea Eagle Multi-Role Helicopters
80 AH-64 Apaches
64 CH-47 Chinook Helicopters
72 AV-8B Harrier II's
135F-22 Raptors
95 F-105 Thunderchiefs
110 X-35 JSFs
5 E-3 Sentries
10 Ogrillon G-33s ((Grendel-produced SVTOL)

launched from the Wasp and Tarawa class asault ships. They pounded the beach defenses. Missle after missle pounded beach guns and troops.

36 Tidal Wave Class LCACs moved up, clearing the mines ahead. 9 Phalanx Class Amphibious Assault Transport Ships and 8 hovercraft landed over 50,000 marines on the beaches, including 100 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks and 96 HMMWV Humvees, as well as 1,000 SSHQ "War Elephant" Tanks. ((Strong armor and cannon, slow movement))

OOC: Of course he could, it wouldn't be hard, but even so I don't think that he would find it too easy. Besides its NS, our jnations are several times as powerful as real nations, hell I've got a bigger pop than the world

IC:

To: Strator
From: His Highness, Emporer William the III of Aust

Very well, you have made your choice, though we tried to convince you to change your ways you will now feel the full brunt of our power. Goodnight.

-------------------------
Aust had no wish for a large scale war, instead it's objectives where basic, free the slaves, capture certain stratigic ports and destory the enermy air force. Thus only a small fleet conisting of 3 aircraft carriers and 20 support ships set out from Bambinio towards Strator, though more would follow later when the Legions had been mobalised and the Austian Special Services had been put on full alert.

However, even as this rapid reaction force set out 6 wings of i'Tuni fighters and 4 of k'Brosh bombers where setting out from the airbase at Nuevo Owloon with the intention of attacking Strators cheif port and airbases. Other fighters where being transfered to Kowloon, which would act as Austs forward base during this assult, and they would strike later.

Another wing was setting out, this one of transport planes escoted by 2 units of fighters, the 12 transports would disengorge there cargo of ASS troops near the largest slave comound in an effort to take it voer and free the slaves, who would then be armed and encourage d to form a rebellion, supported by the ASS of course.
Vault 10
16-02-2007, 16:47
Bah. I bet you could pack 500 slaves into a single An-225 if you wanted to.
An-225 isn't a good idea for transport from a small nation. It's specialized and requires infrastructure. An-124 fits the role much better. And it can take a lot of slaves (likely 500), provided attitude is low so they don't suffocate.

20 An-124... well, I guess a large nation has this many. If you don't, contact ALC to fix it.
Wagdog
16-02-2007, 18:29
ooc: from another thread

ic:

The president coughed a troubled look on his face. "It's come to this eh?" He held a piece of paper in his hand nervously eying the gin tonic set on his desk. He took a sip and stood up preparing to offer one of the hardest speeches of his life.

He stepped out onto the balcony of the presidential palace cameras flashing before him. He gently eyed the podium and set his hand on his forehead in a nervous gesture before speaking.

"People of Southern Colombia, you have spoken. In a historic act you have voted to overturn our non-agrresion policies and join in war on the nation of Strator. 8 million of you voted and of those 8 million 7 supported the effort to stop Strator's slave trade at all cost. It is with a heavy heart I adress this country for I desire nothing but peace. But being as the people have spoken it is my duty as a representative of the people to follow their commands."

He sighted gently.

"Strator I join many other countries in this. You have 24 hours to cease all slave trade or with God as my witness you will be blown to smithereens. Your country shall be wiped of the face of the planet and your people will be freed and allowed to live life with all the comforts of freedom you did not grant them. This is your last chance to avoid concentration. If you do not it is off my hands it is the choice of the people of this country."

"We fully expect to support any allies who want to attack strator because of this situation as well. We pledge full support to any war effort that may arise."


He sighed again and walked back off the platform.
SIC:
Encrypting Data
Acquiring Frequency......Acquired.
Sending Password......Confirmed.
To: ACRPF
From: Revolutionary Command Council, United Socialist States of Wagdog

Officers, gentlemen and ladies, and national commanding authorities of the ACRPF,
We are pleased to hear of your (assumed) host nation's declaration of war against the tyrant Strator. Although we are mobilizing our own forces to preprare for action, information regarding the status of the rescue operation to be launched from our territory is requested.
War with Strator is all but inevitable now, and we shall stand up to our obligations as civilized people, but we must have as much information as possible first since our capabilities are limited. We do know we can contribute three (of five) carrier and three landing groups (of five) plus submarines as naval support, most likely to seize/screen whatever port you designate for evacuating the slaves.
Upon receipt, you are instructed to delete this message. Utterly. And immediately, upon reading this line; full stop.
End Transmission
Deletion Protocol enclosed. Delete (y/n)?

Semi-IC, Semi-Secret IC (Some of these designs, though opentech, are hard to find so they deserve some explanation.)
Forces Preparing for Expedition Against Strator (This counts as part of my upcoming military declaration thread. That has an "Old" and "New" section due to my modernization program, but only the Old forces are ready for this war as yet.):
Three combined Carrier Battle and Amphibious Ready Groups, evenly divisible each and totalling...
3 Project 85M-class CVLs (28,400t full load. Each with 20 F-6B2/"Navalized Farmer-E" mixed AAM/Gun interceptors, 10 A-5B2/"Navalized Fantan-B" antiship missile and dumb munitions attack aircraft, and 10 helicopters including 4 Ka-27 'Helix-A' ASW, 4 Ka-29 'Helix-B' utility/assault, and 2 Ka-31 'Helix-E' AEW types. This light carrier design similar to the RL French "Clemenceau" type existed on paper, so it's opentech if you look hard enough for the specs and pics. 5 were even ordered IRL under the Soviet 1956-61 naval plan, but the funds were personally zeroed by Kruschev due to his nukes/missiles/subs-only attitude. 'M' denotes addition of 6 AK-630 30mm CIWS replacing 6 AK725 57mm quad AA and 8 AK-726 76mm DP guns replacing 8 older 100mm DP; plus removal of the 32 obsolete 25mm AA guns to save weight for sensors, modernized landing-aids, and suchlike. 31kts; 5,000nm @ 18kts.)
3 Project 82RM-class CBGs (42,300t full load. Each with 9 12" guns, 24 76mm AK726 DP guns in six port and six starboard turrets, 4 30mm AK-630 CIWS in two port and two starboard amidships mounts superfiring the AK726s, and 2 4-round SS-N-3B Shaddock antiship missiles installed fore and aft superfiring 'B' and 'X' turrets, with monorail reload hangars built into the ship's superstructure for 24 missiles total. All AA armament other than noted was removed for economy purposes, and the seaplane gear removed to add a rear landing pad for naval helicopters. Derived from the "Stalingrad" class large gun cruiser, this vessel has some 7-9" steel armor at thickest, can make 35kts, and @ 18kts cruising speed ranges 6,000nm. 1712 crew.)
6 Project 70EM "Dzerzhinsky"-class CLGs ("Missile Sverdlov's" with nine 6" guns in two triple turrets forward and one aft, and one SM-64 twin launcher for SA-N-2 Guideline superfiring 'X' turret. 'M' denotes my replacement of their 6 100mm twins with 6 AK-726s and 8x37mm guns with 4 AK-630 CIWS mounts.)
15 Project 774 "Polnocny-D"-class LSTs, each carrying a marine raider company with 160 troops and 10 APCs, and 1 Ka-29 Helix-B assault helicopter with a 16-man Force Recon platoon.
27 Project 1559B Boris Chilikin-class AORs, one per major ship to refuel each as needed to range as far as Strator.
66 Project 61M "Kashin-Mod"-class DDGs, one per ship in each battle group, plus four pickets as generic AAW/ASW defense. Anti-shipping entrusted to the large cruisers and subs.
30 Project 641BUKI "Tango"-class SSKs, also to be detached from the main forces but not as far out.

I'm a nation of some 500-odd million, so I think 3 battlegroups totalling this, plus 2 more totalling 2/3 of this in the national reserve, are sensible for a navally-focused power; especially with how old and cheap-o some of this stuff is...
Rosdivan
16-02-2007, 18:40
First of all, any agressive action towards the mighty nation of Strator will be met with similar hostility. Also, I would like to know why you people beleive i transport my slaves by sea... Sea transports are slow and can not reach countries with no bodies of water nearby. So my trading is totaly unnaffected by this.

I did also mention shooting down planes from your nation.
Silver Star HQ
16-02-2007, 18:50
OOC: By reasonably I meant cheaply, safely, and quickly while still having enough funds to defend against several invasions
Leafanistan
16-02-2007, 19:14
Encrypted Message to Strator Leadership

It is now painfully obvious that APOC and various other powers are going to extinguish your population and your leadership.

It is now time to take advantage of the ignorance of your leadership. Replace your leaders with body doubles, and take your leaders as refugees and flee the country.

We'll handle the evacuation.

[END]

The Republic of the Red Islands

Our humanitarian efforts in slave trading are well known throughout the world. We are currently making a large purchase of drug criminals from Shazbotdom in order to give them a second chance.

We are also known for our massive evacuations of populations under attack.

Modern warfare and Postmodern warfare must extinguish the entire population of the country to prevent cottage industry. However, the military nor the populace starts wars, the politicians and the media starts wars. Those should be those held responsible. We are therefore ordaining that those wishing a war spare the civilians and let us evacuate them to refugee camps in The Berberay Coast.

We have charted Purity Cruise Lines to evacuate up to 20,000 people at first and have contracted Oceanic Airlines and donated aircraft to evacuate 50,000 more people.

Let us evacuate the innocents, we beg of you.

[END]
Southern Colombia
16-02-2007, 22:03
Message from the goverment of southern colombia to all nations involved in the war.


The ACRPF will be stepping down because of the imminent declaration of war. In its place the Southern Colombia Special Operations Force, a task force of 10,000 members will be concentrating on the rescue missions. Our UAV's have been working on designating the locations of the major prisons and we will be freeing all the people in those prisons. The Southern Colombian Special Forces will be assisting the SCSPOF on the ground inside those prisons. The preliminary SCSPOF units will parachute into the land and set up bases for our helicopters to land. Our C-13 Jack Rabbits will be used for this covert Parachuting mission. The rest of the force will be brought in via MV-22 Osprey's approximately 50,000 of our forces will help with this evacuation mission.

Meanwhile we have dispatched a small navy contingent to the area consisting of.
5 Iowa Class Battleships
1 Pheonix Class Aircraft Carrier

aboard the aircraft carrier sit
5 FB-401 Bird of Prey's
5 B-77 Renegade's
20 F-14B Tomcats
20 A-17 Warhawk II's
20 A-4x Skyhawk II's
Allanea
16-02-2007, 22:11
"Roll vehicle six! I repeat, roll vehicle six!”

The M-15 IFV roared as literally jumped out of it's hangar, the tracks biting deep into the sand of San-Nereiana. It was a rather peculiar shade for an armored vehicle, painted several bizarre iterations of red – then again, given it was intended as a purely-urban vehicle, camoflage didn't matter much. On it's turret, a Star of Feanor was painted. “Vehicle, ready and prepared to do battle in the Lady's Glory, Sir!”

Somewhere above the camp, loudspeakers took to work, scaring birds and introducing the 'unit' anthem to the unsuspecting neighbors.

We're her minstrels of destruction,
We're her troubadours of the gun...

“Armorer!” - Kazansky grinned as he moved to the front of the line of troops waiting to receive the peculiar gear stacked in the labirynthine set of pre-cast building that served the Miriel Brigade – as a matter of fact, a 'private army' of four battalions' strength only. “Armorer, what the hell! Where are pistols!”

From the small hole in the pre-cast's wall, a brace of six Glock autopistols appeared, which the Allanean President immediately strapped around his torso. “More!”

Two more pistols found their ways onto ankle holsters and onto Kazansky's ankles. “Grenades!”

On Kazansky's hips, the pair of gold-plated Presidential pistols now took up the company of several immense RGD-33 grenades, knives, a flashlight and several rifle magazines. The rifle itself, a short-barreled ABR-8, was leaning against the wall as Alexander continued to arm himself. “Flamer! Sword! More grenades!”

Next to him, other members of the Brigade prepared their kit in similar fashion. When they would be ready, one could easily mistake them for some form of 'fake soldiers' just for the sheer amont of equipment that was strapped, shouldered, slinged and holstered on their bodies. Of course, one would be wrong.

Two hours later, when the vehicles were all ready and the weapons chosen, Kazansky nodded to those assembled around him. “Are you ready?”

“Yeah, Alex.” - an uneven reply rose from the ranks. This was never really a military unit – just a bunch of undisciplined (though well-trained) men and women from around Allanea that decided to serve under the President's personal colors.

“Very well. We'll be taking off in two hours. Either to Strator or Iragia, whichever works out.”

What do evil's forces fear? Many things, and not just one -
Pain, discovery, failure, punishment – and the list has just begun!
But their utmost, deepest fear, that bursts sanity at it's seams?
Above all, Hell's forces fear Lady Miriel's brave Marines!

OOC: What happened to my missile attack thing, Strator?
Strator
17-02-2007, 06:30
The Agressive Infilitration Devision of Strator (AIDS) Is Strator's most effective Diplomatic tool, as well as the best trained and most well equiped Military squad in the region.

two hundred of the best men from all Allies in the region each equiped with bombs and grenades. All of them could make an explosive out of anything from a bicycle tire to a glass of water.

They went in from underwater and boarded the ships, they went five to a ship to make it faster, and went for only the biggest ships with a lot of surrounding forces. They removed the C4 from the protective cases and made their way towards the engine rooms. four near the engines and one went in the control rooms. All of the groups had enough time to place bombs on three ships, but they had to make sure to get far enough away before the bombs went off. The timing was perfect and all the bombs exploded at the same time, creating utter chaos in the ranks. A total of 208 ships were destroyed, not much of an impact upon the enormous fleets opposing them, but many more were damaged.

While this was happening, many other teams were taking out the ships in other parts, the forces on shore had sucessfully set up without drawing the attention of the enemy. Stragglers from the less trained squadrons died but the losses were minimal compared to those of the enemy. The Strator radio jammers stopped any news of the attack from reaching the enemy forces elsewhere, So long as the fleets sent in by Strators allies stopped them from escaping, Strators forces could whipe out this entire division without news ever reaching the main navy, At least not untill the real war started.

The forces on shore have sucessfully rebuilt a port and fortified the bay from any attacks with AA guns, Patriot missiles, pill boxs and enough troops to hold the beach for several weeks of heavy seige.

The strator war machine has been oiled and was ready to destroy. Strator is not a man to be messed with.
The Scandinvans
17-02-2007, 06:33
two hundred of the best men from all Allies in the region each equiped with bombs and grenades. All of them could make an explosive out of anything from a bicycle tire to a glass of water.

The strator war machine has been oiled and was ready to destroy. Strator is not a man to be messed with.OOC: You got some francium I see.;)

As for the war machine comment you will be overun in a couple of hours, a day tops.
The Black Hand of Nod
17-02-2007, 09:44
OOC: Looks like this is over and done.
Aust
17-02-2007, 14:20
The Austian planes cruised at 33,000 feet as they begin to apss over the main cites of Strator, waiting as the suburbs pass by and there HUDs lighted up, indicating they where over there target that had been marked by U2 satalites hours before. Fighters buzzed aroudn them , ready to see off any threat that came but it appeared that there where none.

Slwoly the bombs dropped, hundreds and then thousands of tons of explosive falling slowly towards key buildings, the goverment buildings, parliment, post offices, army barracks, Anythign remotly targetable would be destroyed, along with any bynkers that where hidden around or beneth them as some of the bombs where 'bunker busters'

Meanwhile, miles away another group of aircraft, similary screen by fighters crusied over the largest slave compound in the country, dropping almost 100 squads of ASS that would seize the place in a lgithning raid.

The ASS where the elite, formed of the very best of the Austian millitary acadermys. To become a members you had to demonstate the very highest levels of ability during your conscription periods, join the Legiosn adn serve for 5 years in the colonies befoe you would be allowed oon the 2 years of extra training needed to qualify as an ASS trooper.

And now they dropped upon the perminiter below, silent and deadly.
Strator
17-02-2007, 15:26
With the air raid in progress and the navies of anti-slave trade countries surrounding Strator, The evil dictator smiled to himself. He was known to be insane, but nobody can claim that he is not a good tactian.

six airplanes flew over Aust, high above the maximum range of any AA guns. stealth transports, a concept which strator had long looked at but was now finally testing. Three hundred men parachuted down to the ground, each were highly trained professional assasins. They were only one deployment of troops aiming to take out all known Austian airforce control towers. The planes continued on and prepared to bomb the capital. In the mean time, Assasins who had been hidden in Aust since the first expression of hostility against the Strator slave trade had now made their way into the main military control sector, it was a in and out mission, taking out the priority targets and then fleeing with any information they could get.

Strator knew not all of them would make it back, but they were expendable...
Wagdog
17-02-2007, 17:44
The Agressive Infilitration Devision of Strator (AIDS) Is Strator's most effective Diplomatic tool, as well as the best trained and most well equiped Military squad in the region.

two hundred of the best men from all Allies in the region each equiped with bombs and grenades. All of them could make an explosive out of anything from a bicycle tire to a glass of water.

They went in from underwater and boarded the ships, they went five to a ship to make it faster, and went for only the biggest ships with a lot of surrounding forces. They removed the C4 from the protective cases and made their way towards the engine rooms. four near the engines and one went in the control rooms. All of the groups had enough time to place bombs on three ships, but they had to make sure to get far enough away before the bombs went off. The timing was perfect and all the bombs exploded at the same time, creating utter chaos in the ranks. A total of 208 ships were destroyed, not much of an impact upon the enormous fleets opposing them, but many more were damaged.

While this was happening, many other teams were taking out the ships in other parts, the forces on shore had sucessfully set up without drawing the attention of the enemy. Stragglers from the less trained squadrons died but the losses were minimal compared to those of the enemy. The Strator radio jammers stopped any news of the attack from reaching the enemy forces elsewhere, So long as the fleets sent in by Strators allies stopped them from escaping, Strators forces could whipe out this entire division without news ever reaching the main navy, At least not untill the real war started.

The forces on shore have sucessfully rebuilt a port and fortified the bay from any attacks with AA guns, Patriot missiles, pill boxs and enough troops to hold the beach for several weeks of heavy seige.

The strator war machine has been oiled and was ready to destroy. Strator is not a man to be messed with.
OOC: OK... 200 commandos, in five-man teams per ship, simultaneously blasting 208 ships and damaging more?:confused: I'm afraid this move qualifies for an IGNORE as far as my fleet is concerned, on grounds of blatant godmoding and gosh-awful math. 2,000 commandos could conceivably do this, if you're willing to retroactively correct the number and allow for some losses of your own; most crews are trained to at least resist boarding parties, and however elite they are your men would eventually be noticed. 2,000 combat swimmers is a high number for a nation your size, mind you, but it's at least more reasonable than the nuclear arsenals many newer players try to claim right off.
As for the port defenses, that could be done indeed; but how quickly are we talking about here, Strator; and in what numbers? Until you specify I'm going to nerf (weaken) that at least, and ignore it entirely if you cannot specify. In any case, all of that can be besieged and demolished in time by the sort of firepower I'm bringing to bear on you, such as below...

IC: Racing out across the black waters, the 15 Ka-29TB Helix-B assault transports stayed as low as they dared in order to avoid the rumored PATRIOT batteries Strator had mustered somehow. Each was fully loaded with 16 Red Banner Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance commandos, a small platoon for each helicopter, and each was assigned one of the rumored missile sites to destroy. Otherwise Wagdog's old naval fighters would have a hard time even taking off without getting downed by SAMs; not a good start for the war, to say the least.
They were approaching Strator's southern coast now, and gear was being readied before the assault began. These particular marine commandos might look somewhat archaic in their Soviet-style black denim fatigues, black berets and sailor T-shirts; and with their weapons all still having old-school laminated wood or bare metal furniture. But those weapons: 2 PKM machine guns, 2 RPG-7V2 rocket launchers, 2 M91/30 Mosin-Nagant sniper rifles, 2 PM-63 submachine guns (for NCOs), 8 P-64 pistols (for the specialists, NCOs and officers) and 8 AK-103 Kalashnikovs (2 with underbarrel GP-30 grenade launchers), were as all-business as the C4 explosives meant for the SAM sites.
Meanwhile, similar units were being launched out of torpedo tubes in 15 of the Red Banner Navy's 30 Tango class subs deployed against Strator; launching in two-man Siren human torpedoes. The cost for that had been high; more hot bunking for the subs' crews and commando platoons aboard each, plus one third fewer torps per sub, but some form of beach reconnaissance was necessary if the landings planned were to work at all. These commandos as well slowly made their way to the Stratorian coast, being lightly armed for beach recon with 12 AK-104s, 4 PM-63s (NCOs and officers) and 4 P-64s (ditto) instead as self-defense; plus satchel charges and Bangalore Torpedoes to blow any obstacles they find.
Meanwhile, the first Project 82RM large missile cruiser came over the horizon, the Kashin-Mod class destroyer UWS Theory of the Three Represents taking up an escort position northwest to screen against any interference by sea or air. The cruiser, the UWS Haymarket Square, was soon to train its nine 12" guns on those defenses the commandos didn't get, plus it's two quad Shaddock missile launchers on any Stratorian ships deciding to interfere, and open the first shots of Wagdog's first war...
Ismali
17-02-2007, 17:54
A decree from Shah Jafar:

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Surely those who have moral objections about these practices are going about this the wrong way. Stator: the Golden Empire of the Safavids will purchase every single sick slave you have left, call it 'zakat', just send an invoice. We encourage other nations to do the same, as surely the slaves await a worse fate if they are not sold.
Aust
17-02-2007, 18:31
With the air raid in progress and the navies of anti-slave trade countries surrounding Strator, The evil dictator smiled to himself. He was known to be insane, but nobody can claim that he is not a good tactian.

six airplanes flew over Aust, high above the maximum range of any AA guns. stealth transports, a concept which strator had long looked at but was now finally testing. Three hundred men parachuted down to the ground, each were highly trained professional assasins. They were only one deployment of troops aiming to take out all known Austian airforce control towers. The planes continued on and prepared to bomb the capital. In the mean time, Assasins who had been hidden in Aust since the first expression of hostility against the Strator slave trade had now made their way into the main military control sector, it was a in and out mission, taking out the priority targets and then fleeing with any information they could get.

Strator knew not all of them would make it back, but they were expendable...

OOC: Okay, let put it this way, first off unless you are in space you ahev no way of penitrating Aust without me knowing, adn if youa re in space then my U2 stalite grid would probably detect you. The likleyhood of you bypassing my air defenses is next to zero becuase, you'd A) HAve to go over Bambinio, where my defenses are consentrated, and you would almost certainly trigger off my radar/spotters/SAME equipment. What your saying it almost impossable, it'd be like trying to get into fort knox armed with only a stick. Impossable.

Second stelth can still be detected, though i probably wouldn't know just what your planes are, but i would know about hem

3nd,if there aircraft trasnporting threehudnred men there going to be bulkey and large, which pritty much kills off stelth tech-ever wonder why stelth planes are so thin? Theres no room to stand up in one of them, let alone fit in 50 off men.

4th, your plan is unworkable. IF these men are atcing alone then they probably won't be able to rbeak into even one of my towers, as a squad they might disbale one or two, with ehavy losses.

5th-I'm operating from my Coloney on kowloon you fool!

However your new to this so I'll give you another chance. First you have to give warning so I can intercept feasably, then it's basically down to numbers and writing skill. I gave you warning as to what was coming 2 posts ago, you ahd time to itnercept. Youd didn't.
Mer des Ennuis
17-02-2007, 18:49
OOC: Cross post, I realize I probably posted this in the wrong thread. And patriots have a hard time hitting SCUDs, much less ultra-high-tech jets.

Colonel Xurxo Xosé sat on a deck chair, watching the sea break against the hull of the other Ravager-class Dreadnaughts of the 1st Amphibious Assault group making full steam at the nation of Strator. He remembered standing at Port de Richesse, the Port of Riches, his team assembled behind him, the hardened 120th Light Division in uniform rows drilling holes in him with their eyes.
“My fellow Ennusians, I am Colonel Xurxo Xosé of the Deathshead, and I come before you with a critical mission. We have been charged with invading a small nation of Strator by none other than General Wincenty himself. Behind me stand the members of my team, and we have our orders just as you have yours. You have been charged to seize the capital as the first wave of Ennusian boots, though we are not alone. Strator has been deemed a vital threat to Ennusian national security, and the evidence presented to me is quite damning of this fact.
We will not be alone in this crusade, for our friends in The Space Union, Franberry, and others in APOC are surrounding the nation as we speak. In the coming weeks, General Wincenty has ordered that the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Army Groups are to take the ground of Strator and coat it with blood! And we are going to be the first to the fight! We are the bloodied spearhead of the Republic! Long Live the Republic.”
The group’s 88 ships were approximately 5 hours from linking up with the blockade of Strator, and twenty combat groups were mobilizing to break water. In 4 hours, his team would be wet. The landing site had been picked out using UCAV reconnaissance, and the bio-degradable boats (active usage life: 2 weeks) were being inflated and checked. In 6 hours, they’d be pounding sand and ground, ready to put a .50 cal in the hearts of their enemies.

To: Governments of Rosdivan, Space Union, Derscon, Imperial Aaronia, Other forces opposed to Strator
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Invasion of Strator

I am pleased to announce that the first rapid reaction force is arriving in theater with the brave men and women of the 120th light division. Like all light divisions, they’ve trained specifically to take cities. Prior to commencement of major operations, the 120th is prepared to rapidly cross terrain to seize the capital, effectively cutting off any hope the enemy has of coordination. Though a small force, the division packs quite a punch, and longer-range assets such as the airforce will be showing in force. Please contact either myself or Mer des Ennuis High Command to coordinate operations.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Derscon
17-02-2007, 22:48
OOC: Oh for the love of God. I know I wasn't the greatest RPer by any means when I first joined, but this is sheer idiocy.

IGNORED, I'm pulling out of these threads.
Wagdog
17-02-2007, 23:50
OOC: By the way, everyone, those weapon stats were per team as I should've pointed out. Multiply each by 15 and you've got the right armament involved as there are 15 sabotage/recon and 15 beach scouting teams inbound.
Ismali
18-02-2007, 00:00
A communique from Shah Jafar to Strator

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It would be appreciated if you could disclose ahead of time the transport(s) transporting the slaves to the Golden Empire so that I may notify the appropriate diplomats *not* to fire on said transports...if nothing else because I do not pay for dead cargo, even if I intend to free it.
Southern Colombia
18-02-2007, 06:37
OOC: Stop godmodding and take your beating like a man noob.

General Breaks stood in observation tower of the A.S.S.C. Air Carrier Numan. He looked down at several large maps and image panels displaying satellital and AUV images overlapped with heat maps. He looked back up and stared out into the distance. A phone next to him rang.

"Hello? Yes Mr. President. Of course. Affirmitive. Clearance Code? Affirmitive."

He hung up and sighed, "I wish it didnt have to come to this."

The crew members standing in the control room behind him glared questioningly at him.

"Captain?"

The General turned around. "Write this down in the log corporal" he nodded. "At 0907 hours the President gave the command to open fire on the nation of Strator. All battleships are to begin launching our tactical missles at the targets indicated in teir 1. We will launch our entire air force to begin the destruction of teir 4 infrastructure essentials. Our major force will be targetting the main capitals electricity plants. Here and Here." He pointed to the board. "The light aircraft will be providing lookouts on the perimiter of these electrical plants in a typical defensive pattern. Once those are destroyed we will be bombing these main bunkers here and here. Is that all clear?"

The corporal nodded.

"Ok send out radio commands I want to hear those birds singing!"

He grabbed a pair of binoculars and looked out at the coastline

"God help us."



~War Communique from the Office of the President of the Allied States of Southern Colombia~

Two days ago a peacekeeping mission of several ships was sent to the coastline of strator. Supported by several other nations we felt that the disgusting act of slavery could not continue. At 0900 hours the Allied States of Southern Colombia declared war on the nation of Strator. Via electoral reforendum the people of Southern Colombia decided that the gross and disgusting acts could not continue and that the lack of remorse that the nation of Strator was showing was offensive in and of itself. At 0907 hours I gave orders to the Grand Marshall General Breaks of the A.S.S.C. Air Carrier Numan to open fire upon the nation of Strator. These hostile actions will continue until the nation of Strator gives up this dispicable act of slavery and transfers all currently held slaves to one of the opposing forces.
Strator
18-02-2007, 09:30
To Ismali:

There are roughly 100,000 male sick slaves and 100,00 female sick slaves.
This makes the price $850 million, but I shall give you a large bonus and make it 500 million due to the size of your shipment. would you like food with this and/or an escort.

Food, good quality: $150,000
Food, poor quality: $25,000
Anti-biotics: $30,000

Escort, large (100 battleships): $10 million
Escort, medium (50 battleships): $5 million
Escort, small (10 battleships): $1 million

The transports will be numbered AE 107, TP 349, HZ 606 and HZ 607

Specify your choices, we will ship as soon as you are ready.

OOC: to Wagdog, my math is fine, i stated that they all got to bomb three ships per team and they bombed big boats with small ones nearby which also got destroyed. To Aust, sorry for not giving warning, and there are 6 planes, 50 to a plane and that is not the only squadron. so all my math is right i just forgot to give warning, again sorry.
Strator
18-02-2007, 12:52
OOC: Hey guys, i got cookies! :D
Wagdog
18-02-2007, 19:05
OOC: OK, thanks Strator for explaining that. I myself apologize for not catching it, since the numbers of ships destroyed overall made me overlook the whole "three ships per team" bit.:headbang: I'll distribute what I deem a sensible fraction of the 208 ships destroyed to my fleet then; and only a fraction, since you didn't specify this attack against me alone and it's greater than my fleet's size anyway.
I'm targeting 15 PATRIOT batteries for demolition by commandos since that number could be bought or produced by a nation your size, if at a serious penalty to your defense budget. May I presume there are more? And what about my question on the port fortifications; how long were they constructed over? I'll take appropriate evasive and suppressive measures in the meantime, but you seem to imply an awfully fast fortification of the port, fuelled by cookies or no...:p

IC: So far, things were NOT going as well for the Wagdoggie forces opposing Strator as they'd prefer; not by a longshot. Although the cruiser Haymarket Square was still alright, pounding the port defenses with nine barrels of 12" authority and soon to be joined in so by her sistership UWS Long March coming over the horizon, the third large cruiser UWS Moncada Barracks had been somehow boarded and demolitioned by Stratorian naval commandos. Worse, the explosion had taken out its escort and picket destroyers, the UWS Socialism in One Country and the UWS Labor Theory of Value. Overall, one large cruiser, three light cruisers, four landing ships, four logistics ships and twenty-four destroyers had been lost. Many tens more had been destroyed among the allied fleets, Wagdog being lucky for having struck a relatively obscure sector with a relatively small force.
Though not crippling to Wagdog's forces, especially since all three carriers were alright, this setback was certainly a problem. Admiral Ta'aren Forthion ordered all marine detachments aboard ships to be put on the highest state of alert, to guard against further such losses, commanding from the bridge of the Project 85M carrier UWS Ernesto 'Che' Guevara de la Serna. The elven admiral, one of few but very respected officers of his kind in Wagdog's military and naval forces, scowled at this lucky shot by a nation every bit as low as Orcs in his mind. "Launch the fighters already! Air Superiority MiGs first, then Anti-Submarine Kamov helicopters; those dipping sonars should help us detect at least some of those swimmer teams in future. Strike sorties are to follow after air and sea defenses for the fleet are secure." His subordinate officers, including the carrier's captain Ronald Darkeye, a were-Labrador Retriever, assented to the Elf's commands. The admiral thought, Let's give those commandos some time to finish their work before we send our aircraft into that SAMs' nest. Within minutes, the first two F-6B2 'Farmer-E' navalized MiG-19s were on each of the three carriers' catapults and soon to launch; each packing 2 AA-1E heat-seeking and 2 AA-1F semiactive-radar Alkali missiles besides their two retrofitted NR-23 23mm cannons, and ready to share some of this proverbial 'heat' with whatever Air Force Strator dared to muster against the Wagdoggie Red Banner Navy. Five Ka-27P 'Helix-A' antisubmarine choppers were rolling out onto each carrier's landing deck for simultaneous launch, to ward off against any more plucky Stratorian frogmen or subs...
On the beach, the firefight against Strator's coastal troops was intense, but so far the mission was not in danger. Five had died out of some 240 reconnoitering the coast, most of these by lucky Stratrorian shots hitting them while still coming ashore and causing them to drown. Seventeen more been wounded enough to be forced to remain where they were and fire as they could. Most of the obstacles had been identified and demolished, and under the cover of the AK-103s from the teams' riflemen the last few satchel charges and Bangalore torpedoes were set.
Upon those blowing up, the Wagdoggie naval commandos radioed the all-clear for the landing to begin and began advancing, in the same 16-man teams inasmuch as possible with one man left behind tending each wounded survivor, to clear out the enemy. Stratorian soldiers were fleeting and obscured by fire and confusion as always when spotted, but that was war after all. The troops bounded ahead in standard fire/movment discipline, making the best of things they could...
The 11 Surviving Polnocny-Ds, the original 15-strong landing force carrying five whole Commando Landing Teams thankfully having discharged all 15 Force Recon helos before 4 Polnocnys had been lost to sabotage, were closing in on Strator's beaches. Fortunately, none of the HQ Company or Weapons Company carrying ships had been hit, security there having been better at least. Some individual BTR-60PBs from the four lost boats were amazingly able to survive, having been launched just before the explosion in an emergency evacution, and were now creeping towards shore, their waterjets and boat-shaped hulls struggling to resist the choppy waters so far out. Overall, perhaps some 20 of the 50 amphibious APCs on those lost landing ships had managed to survive, and were inbound on the coast.
The heliborne commandos had landed, having indeed been spotted on the PATRIOTs' surveillance radars but somehow evaded any tracking for shots; possibly due to Stratorian inexperience operating such sophisticated SAMs. They moved in as silently as possible on their targets, then launched one RPG each at the AN/MPQ-53 mobile phased-array radar and the AN/MSQ-104 Engagement Control Station. This was simultaneous, since each team had two RPGs and wasn't going to waste the firepower; nor were two machine gunners, two grenadiers and four riflemen in each team as they opened up in disciplined bursts on the M-901 TEL cabs and any Stratorian soldiers that even looked like moving to resist. Ditto that for the two snipers per team, aiming for any of the usual decorated or pistol-waving targets that indicated officers. That is, when they weren't simply plinking satellite dishes and radio antennae first to cut communications.
There was no way to know precisely how effective this fire was in the middle of it all, of course; but clearly some Stratorians had already been cut down by small arms and the 15 PATRIOT batteries' radars and command stations destroyed by RPGs, soon to be joined by their launchers courtesy of some C4. Though hindered slightly, Wagdog's contribution to the campaign against Strator was still underway; with one key objective already essentially complete but for some leftover details...

SIC:
Message to Southern Colombian Forces from Wagdoggie First Fleet and Fleet Marine Forces
ARE HEAVILY ENGAGED WITH STRATOR FORCES. STOP. REQUEST LINKUP AND ORBAT OF KNOWN ENEMY FORCES IF POSSIBLE. STOP. WILL SOON BE READY TO COVER AIR OR NAVAL EVACUATION OF LIBERATED SLAVES, PLEASE DESIGNATE MEANS OF EVACUATION. STOP. LANDING AGAINST STRATORIAN PORT AND DEMOLITION OF AIR DEFENSE SITES ARE UNDERWAY ACCORDING TO THIS OBJECTIVE. FULL STOP.
Aust
18-02-2007, 19:06
To Ismali:

There are roughly 100,000 male sick slaves and 100,00 female sick slaves.
This makes the price $850 million, but I shall give you a large bonus and make it 500 million due to the size of your shipment. would you like food with this and/or an escort.

Food, good quality: $150,000
Food, poor quality: $25,000
Anti-biotics: $30,000

Escort, large (100 battleships): $10 million
Escort, medium (50 battleships): $5 million
Escort, small (10 battleships): $1 million

The transports will be numbered AE 107, TP 349, HZ 606 and HZ 607

Specify your choices, we will ship as soon as you are ready.

OOC: to Wagdog, my math is fine, i stated that they all got to bomb three ships per team and they bombed big boats with small ones nearby which also got destroyed. To Aust, sorry for not giving warning, and there are 6 planes, 50 to a plane and that is not the only squadron. so all my math is right i just forgot to give warning, again sorry.
OOC: its mroe the fatc that planes have suddenly appeared in my airspace, above Uats which is one of the most advanced and heavly protected nations in the world-especally by air- and have dropped commandos. Even if they did avoid my patrols and radar they would be spotted parachuting down. More than that you now claim even more than 6 planes have managed to make it. Plus, 50 men a plane is a lot and they could never be stelth covered.
Ismali
18-02-2007, 20:13
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A Communique from Shah Jafar to all parties concerned:

Do not interfere with ships containing slaves and being escorted by 200 of Strator's ships, doing so will be an act of war as they are my property until they are emancipated the instant they cross into Safavid territory. They are being used to help solve a demographic problem, and besides, the Safavid economy can easily absorb their labor *well above* minimum wage.

Strator: expect a wire of $550 million; 200 ships should escort, and the difference should cover a supply of good food (AT LEAST 2'700 calories per person per day) and medicine as needed.
Wagdog
18-02-2007, 21:42
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A Communique from Shah Jafar to all parties concerned:

Do not interfere with ships containing slaves and being escorted by 200 of Strator's ships, doing so will be an act of war as they are my property until they are emancipated the instant they cross into Safavid territory. They are being used to help solve a demographic problem, and besides, the Safavid economy can easily absorb their labor *well above* minimum wage.

Strator: expect a wire of $550 million; 200 ships should escort, and the difference should cover a supply of good food (AT LEAST 2'700 calories per person per day) and medicine as needed.
IC:
Your Majesty's purchase, being made in the spirit of liberation for these unfortunates in bondage, will not be interfered with by my forces. The same goes for the 200 escorts in this particular case, although how Strator managed to buy or build such a fleet escapes our intelligence estimates entirely, and we thus fear you've been cheated on that count.
However, please note that as soon as these presumed Stratorian warships escort your cargo to port and leave your waters, we shall again regard them as hostile targets open to attack. They shall no longer be charged with escorting your buy, and thus shall once again be fair game in our minds. If you object to this, there is time before that happens so you may of course do so, and we shall see what we can do within the context of our war effort. We do not wish war with the Golden Empire if it can at all be helped, for that would indeed be a tragedy.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
Carolinus Horridus
General Secretary of the United Socialist States of Wagdog

OOC: Strator, how exactly does a nation of 18 million muster a 200 ship navy of anything but sailing ships?:rolleyes: I'll leave alone your awfully generic use of 'battleship', since none but the most powerful of even NS nations can afford that many dreadnoughts.
I may have some 500 assorted warships of my own, but I'm fully 21 times you in population and 100+ times wealthier according to NSTracker (http://nstracker.retrograde.com/index.php?nation=wagdog&nation2=strator&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=&nation6=); plus my Navy is my primary service anyway. From what I've seen of your budget you're already pushing the limit of your military and law-enforcement funding totals with the forces you've claimed before. I'm trying to be nice here, but you persist in what looks suspiciously like godmoding for a nation as new as yours.
Ismali
18-02-2007, 21:53
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A Communique from Shah Jafar to Mr. Horridus

We are pleased that such an agreement was arrived upon, and as our involvement in anything related to Stratorian ships will cease once they leave our ports, there is nothing we could do even if we wanted. As for the existence of said fleet, we were given a $300M discount on the slaves, so $20M is not such a big deal. We will send a ship to escort just in case the ships don't show.
Aust
18-02-2007, 21:55
OOC: MAte, fi i where you I'd just give up the traders, i won't demand owt and I'll protect you from the rest, form a allience and whatever. YOur trying hard mate, and it wouldn't be right just to blitz you. ANyway, damage report from my attack please.
Southern Colombia
18-02-2007, 22:13
OOC: Im pulling out of this thread and reproting it to a mod for blatant godmodding. P.S. strator go :upyours: urself.
Aust
18-02-2007, 22:17
OOC: Im pulling out of this thread and reproting it to a mod for blatant godmodding. P.S. strator go :upyours: urself.

OOC: Oh come on, it ain't that bad. A few miustakes but nothing to serious, ebsides, unless NS has changed since I went away being alightly n00bish and a little godmod (Not seriosu stuff eitehrs, no FWS crap) is not illigal.
Ismali
18-02-2007, 22:18
OOC: I would agree; 200 warships for a nation of 18M is a bit much, but at least in my case, there is probably enough in residual 'slush funds' for the Shah to more than pay for my commitment...
Silver Star HQ
18-02-2007, 23:25
OOC: Strator, you seem to have ignored my forces. Also, do you have a map, and what beach defences do you have? I'm planning on landing around 25,000 marines followed by 75,000 army troops as well as 100,000 assorted personal. I have

1 Invader Amphibious Assault Ship
2 Tarawa-Class Amphibious Assault Ships
8 Wasp-Class amphbious assault Ships
7 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
2 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
9 Phalanx Class Amphibious Assault Transport Ships
36 Tidal Wave Class LCACs

27 Ogrillion G-33s ((SVTOL Produced by the Grendels))
80 AH-64 Apaches
64 CH-47 Chinook Helicopters
72 AV-8B Harrier II's
135F-22 Raptors
95 F-105 Thunderchiefs
110 X-35 JSFs
5 E-3 Sentries

100 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
96 HMMWV Humvees
250 "War Elephant" SSHQ tanks (Strong armor, strong guns, slow and poop manueverability))

The LCACs will take out most mines though some will hit my forces. I need to know what beach defenses you have and where.
Strator
19-02-2007, 03:40
OOC:

I claimed in another post that I could only afford 100 and im not a expert on navy stuff so i thought that was not that much, sorry. Wagdog, I only read the begining of you post because it was just a tad to long, soz, but there are only 10 patriot missiles spread across the relativly small strator coastline but they are surrounded by makeshift pill boxes. Aust, I was unaware that you had spy satellites because they were supposed to come in from sub space:headbang: . I am making a lot of mistake and I am sorry, but im kinda new and I like blowing things up.

IC:

To any who oppose the Strator slave trade:

This is getting a little out of hand, I am afraid I will have to turn to my back up plan, If your nations do not back down, I will kill all of the slaves (not being sold) and the few POW's in the most painful ways possible. I have also placed a bomb in the brain of a famous writer, NOBODY SHALL EVER READ THE NEW HARRY POTTER! I shall allow you to buy slaves and free them for an extra cheap price (only goes to those who were at war with me) after you sign a treaty to remove all your troops from my land and to never attack my country because of my slave trade.

I will even lay off a little bit on my laws, people shall no longer be enslaved for:

-Talking too loud
-Being unhappy with my system
-Laughing in high pitched voices
-Jumping for no reason
-Jumping for a bad reason
-Talking to quietly
-Mumbling
-Impersonating an Egyptian ( OOC: :eek: A real capital crime in 1800's Britain)
and acting like a monkey

I think this is good enough for all of you, otherwise we shall all sustain heavy loses and I will be forced to bring in a grand finale...
Strator
19-02-2007, 03:41
Ill draw a map on paint http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s92/Stratordominion/Map.jpg
Ismali
19-02-2007, 04:24
OOC: may want to put in the clause 'after business is taken care of', or this could be a causus belli.
Strator
19-02-2007, 04:48
I meant to include that but i forgot to
Strator
19-02-2007, 05:49
OOC: come on, I want to know if I get to blow peoples brains out or if we all become buddies.
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 05:54
OOC:

I claimed in another post that I could only afford 100 and im not a expert on navy stuff so i thought that was not that much, sorry. Wagdog, I only read the begining of you post because it was just a tad to long, soz, but there are only 10 patriot missiles spread across the relativly small strator coastline but they are surrounded by makeshift pill boxes. Aust, I was unaware that you had spy satellites because they were supposed to come in from sub space:headbang: . I am making a lot of mistake and I am sorry, but im kinda new and I like blowing things up.

IC:

To any who oppose the Strator slave trade:

This is getting a little out of hand, I am afraid I will have to turn to my back up plan, If your nations do not back down, I will kill all of the slaves and the few POW's in the most painful ways possible. I have also placed a bomb in the brain of a famous writer, NOBODY SHALL EVER READ THE NEW HARRY POTTER! I shall allow you to buy slaves and free them for an extra cheap price (only goes to those who were at war with me) after you sign a treaty to remove all your troops from my land and to never attack my country because of my slave trade.

I will even lay off a little bit on my laws, people shall no longer be enslaved for:

-Talking too loud
-Being unhappy with my system
-Laughing in high pitched voices
-Jumping for no reason
-Jumping for a bad reason
-Talking to quietly
-Mumbling
-Impersonating an Egyptian ( OOC: :eek: A real capital crime in 1800's Britain)
and acting like a monkey

I think this is good enough for all of you, otherwise we shall all sustain heavy loses and I will be forced to bring in a grand finale...
OOC: Again, thanks for the correction. I like blowing stuff up too, and this was good practice despite the mistakes on all our sides.:D I'll just nerf the commandos by making them have hit some fake radar vehicles you were clever enough to put in my way, although we're still going after the pillboxes now that we know the trick you pulled.;) We know, and now we're acting accordingly.
OK, you might just be able to afford 100 torpedo or missile patrol boats (such as Swedish Spica or Israeli Sa'ar classes, for instance); it'd cost you a ton, but then again so do ten PATRIOT pillboxes plus the ten sets of radars and control equipment to make each a viable independent launcher. Most whole batteries of 6-8 PATRIOTs only have one radar and control vehicle each, but I guess your system is one launcher per radar in a heavy bunker with many times more reloads available. If so, nice idea.
Don't worry about being new. You're actually giving me (at least) a decent challenge, and laying off the proverbial "n00ks" (n00b nukes).:cool: Especially a challenge since whatever navy you decide you can afford is off limits at the moment, thanks to Shah Jafar's buy...

IC:
"Honey," Wagdog's Deputy General Secretary, Christine Friedrich, brought the printout to her husband, General Secretary Carolinus Horridus. "This arrived from the Strator government via an intermediary. They're suing for peace, the bloody slavers. We've really got them begging now baby!" Her exultation made her appear decades younger, even if her aging had been slowed to at least a Dunedain's pace ever since Wagdog's reappearance some time ago.
To his eyes, even if still in love with her, she almost looked like in the old Revolutionary days, when they'd dropped out of college in depression over a conservative election victory in their homeland and waged a guerrilla war on a lark to drive out the former rulers of Wagdog's island states far away; then under totally different names and as many different sovereignties. They thought they'd just go off to some forsaken island, and die fighting together for what they believed in; but somehow seized a nation instead while still in their tender early twenties, so long ago.
"Not quite, dear." Carolinus Horridus was not a cruel man strictly speaking, despite the alias meaning "Charles the Horrible" he'd used as cover ever since a young Nazi punk had nearly taken his life with a magnum revolver seemingly ages ago. But he was a hard man, inclined to make hard peace with those who offended him as much as this Strator had. "I think we can turn the screws just a bit more. Strator should be familiar with that, no doubt." Christine nodded in bloodthirsty agreement as she hugged him and sat in his lap. He continued, "Yes, let's have our boys put on a bit more hurt on Strator and then we'll issue our own conditions for peace."

Back at the coast, the Polnocny's had come ashore on the southern beaches successfully; having suppressed the antiaircraft/coastal fire with their shipboard BM-21 122mm 40-round rocket launchers and direct shots from their forward 57mm autocannon turrets. Ten BTR-60PBs full of Red Banner Marines were rolling out of each surviving transport, with some 17 more wading ashore from the four sunken transports after three of the surviving twenty had sunk at sea; one after capsizing, and two after lucky 90mm AA shot had hit them before the position was silenced by 12" gunfire from the two large cruisers now in action.
The APCs rode with everyone aboard for speed's sake, but the infantry standing out of the roof hatches ready to fire full-auto on any position that even looked like an RPG might come from there. Each section of two squads, 16 strong and armed just like the 16 man commando platoons inland, was rolling out to block the main streets and secure the southern port town coup d'etat style; making the enemy come to them while pouring through the town along the paths of least apparent resistance. When such resistance inevitably showed, the five weapons companies combined 80 BTR-60PBs each towed behind either one of forty total Type 92 70mm Battalion Guns (OOC: Yes, the same kind Imperial Japanese troops used in WWII), or one of forty in all DShKM 12.7mm/.50cal heavy machine guns on its wheeled tripod carriage; either weapon ready to be brought to bear against those Stratorian roadblocks who didn't take upon themselves the sense to flee pronto.
Meanwhile, the commandos realized their error; the five teams at the fake missile sites just marching off to lay antitank mines and ambush positions along the nearest major roads to the local military base they could find, and the ten teams now aware of the single-launcher pillboxes that were the real PATRIOT sites moved in with equal violence as their mistaken first attack. If nothing else, they would create enough havoc to distract the missile crews while 20 A-5B2 Fantan-B carrierborne attack planes, free to operate since no Stratorian air force had yet challenged their F-6B2 fighter brethren, screamed in with rocket pods ready to tear up the missile launcher and (above all) its vulnerable radar while leaving the pillbox intact for the commandos' use. The 10 flights of two Fantan's, each Fantan armed with four 16-round 57mm rocket pods, lined up on the 10 PATRIOT bunkers and loosed all their rockets in one suffocating barrage, meant to wreck the pillboxe's outer launcher and radar; while safely behind all that protective concrete, the missile crews simultaneously fought for their lives against hardened and well-armed Wagdoggie marines...

Conditions for Peace Between the United Socialist States of Wagdog and the Dominion of Strator
1. So as not to betray our allies in Southern Colombia and elsewhere, your forces engaged in hostile acts against us must immediately and unconditionally surrender where they are. Your forces currently engaged in escorting slave shipments abroad may continue on their mission, but must surrender immediately upon return to Strator.
2. Your suggested legal reforms must implemented without delay. Furthermore, sentence of slavery must be restricted to only those felonies which would correspond to life imprisonment sentences in other nations.
3. Inheritance of enslaved status by children of a slave in your country must be abolished, formally and forever. Only the individual sentenced should bear the burden of a crime.
4. Your government must cease and desist in the international slave trade as such, now and forever. So as not to unduly inconvenience your government, you may perhaps engage in paid transport of those criminals you wish to exile rather than enslave or execute; to whichever countries pay you to take them. It would allow your (surviving) merchant fleet to remain useful, and would only require the closure of your so-called "Slave Store" and opening of a more respectable storefront in its place for the purpose.

Should your government, Strator, first submit to allied occupation and then agree to these conditions of mine, I shall agree to peace between us. I cannot say what terms the other forces will name, but you must allow Wagdoggie troops in particular to occupy your port city and assist in evacutation of all emancipated slaves until such time as a full peace between all of us is concluded. In return we will not agitate for the destruction of your regime, since we have no interest in ruling your land as occupiers should that happen. We trust that your interest is in survival as a sovereign, is it not Strator?

Most Sincerely,
Comrade Carolinus Horridus
General Secretary, United Socialist States of Wagdog
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 07:06
OOC: Just a piece of advise: When attacking a nation, you are generally alowed to do everything short of telling the other person what their forces have done. For example, presume that if you reject this proposal, my ships will target your airforce base closest to the coast with naval shells and missiles. I will say "The ships fired their volkswagen-sized shells at the target, guided by GPS. The ships rocked back as they launched cruise missiles at other targets in the general area." Its then your job to say what happened to them, and state your casualties. I hope that makes sense.

To: Stratorian Government
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Terms of Surrender

As you are of no doubt aware, a good sized fleet of 88 ships of ours are sitting just outside of your nation's waters. Onboard are roughly 17,000 marines ready to take your nation by force, and are supported by sea-borne weapons platforms capable of deploying aircraft and ordinance anywhere in your country. More are on the way. Much more. Here are the terms of your surrender. I highly suggest you accept them. You have 12 hours. Thanks to the wonders of spy satellites, our forces have already picked out what we believe are HVTs. After 12 hours, we will strike one of these HVTs, be they hospitals, governmental offices, military bases, airfields, etc. once every hour. Again, surrender to avoid annihilation.

-All military forces under the Strator flag must stand down. Immediately.
-Any and all foreign forces that may have been captured must be released to either our custody or into the custody an any other occupying nation.
-The capital city must be handed over to Ennusian forces for at least the first 48 hours of the occupation. Military intelligence facilities and Foreign contact offices must be turned over to Ennusian forces. I will personally assure the safety of any Stratorian officials taken into the custody of Ennusian forces, regardless of crimes they may have committed.
-A suitable beachhead must be granted to Ennusian forces to load/offload supplies and peace-keeping personnel, along with an intercontinental-sized airfield.

Our demands are simple. I suggest you take them. We are not in the business of nation building, and we intend to keep your government almost entirely intact, provided that these conditions are met.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 07:17
OOC: Just a piece of advise: When attacking a nation, you are generally alowed to do everything short of telling the other person what their forces have done. For example, presume that if you reject this proposal, my ships will target your airforce base closest to the coast with naval shells and missiles. I will say "The ships fired their volkswagen-sized shells at the target, guided by GPS. The ships rocked back as they launched cruise missiles at other targets in the general area." Its then your job to say what happened to them, and state your casualties. I hope that makes sense.
OOC: If this is for me, then yah.:headbang: Tried to avoid giving the wrong impression, but I figured I could go a certain level (commandos storming the missile bunkers, but no casualties stated; BTRs in the streets, but no checkpoints engaged yet; fighters launching rockets, at the radars to suppress them, but not completing said mission yet...) since Strator didn't exactly resist my commandos as well as he could've in the posts before mine. The other stuff was to give myself some losses and continue my prior bombardment. But yes, more care is in order and I usually take it elsewhere besides.
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 07:19
OOC: I was actually aiming that at Strator. I hope stator accecpts the terms of surrender, otherwise i'm going to have to deploy a military force equivlent to roughly a quarter of his population, and that might stop my participation in other RPs.
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 07:26
OOC: I was actually aiming that at Strator. I hope stator accecpts the terms of surrender, otherwise i'm going to have to deploy a military force equivlent to roughly a quarter of his population, and that might stop my participation in other RPs.
OOC: I feel ya'.:( Already this is probably crimping the Earth I'm on. Thanks for the clarification, but I thought I should check myself just in case. I'm readying some bombers of my own too, in the off event he refuses my particularly generous terms compared to what I imagine some will offer.
In Strator's defense, IMO he has improved vastly ever since I agreed to take the naval demolitionists' hit I did. It hurt of course (me at the time: :mad:), but he explained it and so I had to pay the price for my shoddy onboard security somehow. After this, he might just become passable after all (although I think this'll be all for open-world wars for a while on my end)...
Strator
19-02-2007, 11:47
On a encrypted recording sent to all of the enemy forces:

"I already gave my terms, DO YOU LIKE HARRY POTTER!!! I hope so, because I would hate to blow the brains out of this woman"

"Save me, he's a madman, OH MY GOD THE PAIN..."

"Im sorry, the gag got a bit loose, I hope to receive you answers soon! Ta ta."
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 15:21
On a encrypted recording sent to all of the enemy forces:

"I already gave my terms, DO YOU LIKE HARRY POTTER!!! I hope so, because I would hate to blow the brains out of this woman"

"Save me, he's a madman, OH MY GOD THE PAIN..."

"Im sorry, the gag got a bit loose, I hope to receive you answers soon! Ta ta."
Official Reply from the United Socialist States of Wagdog
Oh we read your terms, Strator. And found them far more reasonable than we expected from you, but still not remotely enough. Note that in no way did I mention abolition of slavery itself in your country; merely abolishing the trade abroad you were peddling, and bringing your practices at least remotely more in line with international penal norms.
We could abolish it if we chose, but that would require displacement of your government and occupation of your land; something my goverment is not interested in at all. I also said no such thing regarding torture either, since abolishing that would be truly unenforceable against you even if you could no longer export torture implements abroad; as my terms for peace require of you.
Believe you me, Strator; shipping off any exiles of yours, for pay from other countries taking them, would be big business for you. Especially given your experience in human trafficking under the circumstances that occasioned this war; experience which would again be in legitimate demand, so long as you cut out this slave trade nonsense in favor of letting your peculiar habits stay just that: peculiar, and limited to your sovereign realm.
Those are the best terms you are likely to get; especially from me, since although I seem to have borne the brunt of the fighting, those coming in behind me are probably even less inclined to treat with you even a quarter so fairly as I. And I shall not betray them even though I'm a mere co-belligerent, so your interests are best served by letting me argue to the Allies the best peace terms you're ever going to get: mine.
Keep that in mind; just as you have your gun at the author's head, I have my air force ready to bomb your main military bases in your country's south into helplessness, to be seized by my Airborne troops pending a full invasion of your Dominion. But I will refrain from doing that, so long as you remain reasonable in this, Strator. Will you grant the same courtesy unto an enemy who grants it to you first?
Most Sincerely,
General Secretary Horridus

Meanwhile, in proof of what the General Secretary said, 40 B-6D Badger freefall/missile bombers took off from bases in Wagdog's Northern Shoes archipelago, directly behind being 40 B-6DU Badger tankers and 40 An-12 Cub transports, the last carrying Red Army para-rangers ready to airdrop in directly behind any bombings that occurred and keep Strator off-balance.
20 EB-4 Bull AWACS, and 60 F-8H Finback fighters packing two Python 3 and two Aspide missiles each, rounded out the escort force for this massive air fleet. Wagdog had decided it was time to show Strator just how utterly outclassed his Dominion was, should peace fail to be reached soon.
Although the situation regarding the PATRIOT emplacements remained unclear, the A-5Bs having to make for their carriers at maximum speed and minimum altitude once their rockets had launched in case the PATRIOTS somehow got a shot off otherwise, the marine raiders in the southern port town remained cautious as they expanded their toehold through those areas Strator hadn't garrisoned yet. They knew it wouldn't stay this easy for long...
As for the five commando teams laying in ambush, they simply dug in and waited for troops from Strator's nearby base to try and relieve the port town southeast of them. More than waited, they dared the enemy to trundle down the booby-trapped paths in his armor like some Pharaoh in their chariot; all the better reason to make them let their people go, at the point of a loaded and aimed RPG...
Terror Incognitia
19-02-2007, 17:07
A small portion of the Incognitian Navy had been redirected towards Strator. Two carrier groups, carrying with them a mere 10,000 marines.
And why? This beleagured state had seen fit to taunt the Consilium. Unless they retracted it, they would pay.

Does your country contain angry men?

A message was sent to the Stratorian Government: remove this insult or you'll be in even deeper than you already are.

OOC: If you want to post in a thread of mine/ours, we're very welcoming. To serious posts, or inquiries about how to join. (see my sig for more). Delete that post, please.
Danno10
19-02-2007, 17:13
Although normally the The Dictatorship of Danno10 would be very delighted by this offer, His Majesty will agree with other nations and wants a ban on this disgraceful behaviour

- His Majest Danno10
Vetaka
19-02-2007, 17:24
OOC: How are you manging to support such a Store Front? You only have a population of 20 Million? Where all your slaves coming from?
Danno10
19-02-2007, 17:28
OOC: How are you manging to support such a Store Front? You only have a population of 20 Million? Where all your slaves coming from?

Reply: The Dictatorship of Danno10

Are you suggesting he enslaves his nation?
Vetaka
19-02-2007, 17:49
OOC: Unless he is actively seizing people such as forigen nationals or people from his nations neighbours? Yes I suppose I am making that suggestion
Danno10
19-02-2007, 17:53
In that case, a Representitive from The Dictatorship of Danno10 will be attending your summit.

Signed, Danno10.
Swilatia
19-02-2007, 18:10
While slavery itself is not exactly illegal in Swilatia, there are strict regulations on the treatment of slaves and we will need to know what crimes they did, because if it is for something that is legal in Swilatia, the person is considered innocent, and thus cannot be enslaved. Also, the practise of slavery is not popular in Swilatia, and a possible constitutional amendment banning the practice has been considered, so we are unlikely to buy even if you meet the requirements.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6695/swilatia7ks1.gif
Vetaka
19-02-2007, 18:27
IC:

The Dominion of Vetaka urges all nations whom appose Slavery to attend the Anti-Slavery Innocence Summit. Which will be held within the Vetakan Capital of Theeb. Together we can collectively remove Slavery from todays modern day world.

Yours Dominion of Vetaka Forigen Affairs Secretary Scarlet Rogers
Silver Star HQ
19-02-2007, 18:49
OOC: Strator, I intend to invade through the circled area. The circled three defenses will be attacked by paratroopers and commandos. I estimate that you should have about 40-60 guns in the area, plus AA. Also, you could have about 5-10 cruise missles and it could be mined, but I plan to sweep the area with LCACs so they won't be very effective.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/940/stratorinvasionao6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Aust
19-02-2007, 18:58
The ASS where ready to make there drop but where then suprised to find there planes turning in a heavy banking turn back towards Neuvo Kowloon. There revenge on the slavers would have to wait.

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To: Strator
From: His highness Emporer William the third of Aust.

Aust find your terms unacceptable. Our terms are thus:

1) The freedom of every slave not conivcted of a srious crime, for example Muder or Rape

2) The compelte abolition of Lsavery in all its forms.

3) Those slaves that wish to leave Strator may find comfort in Aust

4) A port is to be made as an international free port under the superviosion of the coaltion for a period of 10 yeras to allow those who wish to elagve leave.

If these terms are agreed to Aust also offers an Allience between Stator and Aust with the purpose of providing military security for both nations, Aust will also establish trade links with Stator and provide aid.
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 19:30
On a encrypted recording sent to all of the enemy forces:

"I already gave my terms, DO YOU LIKE HARRY POTTER!!! I hope so, because I would hate to blow the brains out of this woman"

"Save me, he's a madman, OH MY GOD THE PAIN..."

"I’m sorry, the gag got a bit loose, I hope to receive you answers soon! Ta ta."

Adam Wincenty crumpled up the paper and tossed it at a trashcan half-way across his office.
"Does he seriously expect us to believe that J.K. Rowling left Questers' UK? Gentlemen, I want this annoyance dealt with. Recall the Death's Head. Have naval assets destroy defensive emplacements and bases here." he said, rapidly marking x's on various defensive emplacements and military infrastructure. Initiate light air strikes on airbases once air defenses are adequately... suppressed. Initiate attack protocol 5 on his capital. I want at least a 95% casualty rate."

"But sir, won't there be international fallout?" asked an advisor.

"Unlikely. No one likes him, and we can always make the case that its 'for the greater good'. Drop a falling hammer on what we think is the dictatorial presidential palace here, and some t-12's on these facilities here." Wincenty ordered, putting different designations on what looked like the dictatorial palace and other governmental targets."
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The Amphibious Assault group was not ment to destroy nations, but in this case, it would have little problem. The pair of Ravager-class Dreadnaughts commenced fire with a barrage of 688mm shells at the somewhat vintage patriot missile emplacements, while its 28 155mm naval howitzers dialed in firing solutions for all airbases within its reach, which more-or less constituted half the nation. Naval bases were targeted by the four Spiritus Dei class heavy cruisers, which lobbed massive 18" (457mm) shells. The 6 Comberth class destroyers, supplemented by the group's 4 Relentless class SSGNs targeted emplacements further inland, launching GPS guided cruise missiles by the dozen. Even the Dolphin-class ASW frigates were given permission to target closer defenses with their small 125mm guns. The guns of the Endeavour assault ships remained silent, ready to finish off any defenses that somehow remained intact. Once all detectable AA defenses were down, 48 stealthy Blizzard JSFs would initiate light strikes on remaining facilities and airbases. The destruction of Strator would be monumental.

Across the oceans, air bases in Mer des Ennuis were rapidly mobilizing to firebomb the Capital of Strator into oblivion. 400 SuB-4 Ultra-heavy bombers took off with the efficiency only a computer could bring, each loaded to the brim with the latest, greatest, napalm, capable of reaching temperatures up to 9,000*. No more than a dozen bombers were loaded with four T-12 demolition bombs apiece. One lagged behind the others, loaded down with a massive 100-ton falling hammer. The planes would link up with their escorts, 1,200 SuF/A-6B Wraith Air Dominance fighters, and begin their day-long trek to bomb the nation of Strator into dust. 200 SuKC-1 Stormfuelers would keep them in the air the entire time. Strators destruction, bordering on genocide, would be complete within 48 hours, barring, of course, unconditional surrender.

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To: Stratorian Government
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Your Imminent Destruction/Unconditional Surrender

Tootles.

Let me know when you want to say “uncle.”

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Aust
19-02-2007, 20:00
To: Mer des Ennuis
from: Aust

We would advise you to pull back your forces, as it appears from the strength and you wish only the wholesale distruction of Stator, rrarther than just regime change and freedom that we envisage. Stator is currently angotiating peace with Aust and until those nagotiation are conc
luded we request that you refrane from attacking.

IF, of course, the nagotiations break down, you have free reign to destroy the goddamned palce.

Empeor William
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 20:38
To: Emperor William
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Destruction of Strator

We believe nothing says "regime change" quite like a 22 ton bomb. In all fairness, it will be at least 23 hours until the first JDAMs and Submunitions begin to drop, and our current naval shelling is almost entirely against military targets. 23 hours should be enough time for Strator to give in. However, until all demands are rejected, we will order the planes into holding positions approximatly an hour and a half from Strator. We will not halt shelling, both by missile and by gun, until all targets are eliminated.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 20:40
To: Mer des Ennuis
From: Wagdog

Although I myself have zero love lost for Strator, neither can I support the action you seem prepared to take. Not only would it be murderous, seeing as Strator does indeed enslave his own population, as the list of crimes Slavery is used to punish (worse, formerly capital cimes according to him...) indicates; a population you would be largely exterminating in a fit of pique about his terroristic rambling. We hardly credit that either, but do not seek to provoke an unstable ruler more than our war with him already does at present.
No, said extermination bombing would also be massively counterproductive, since our forces are in effective control of his southeasternmost city already, with hardly any resistance so far, and in position to suppress his military and air bases in the area by bombing and airborne assault. We do not wish a full invasion of Strator, since it would mean a great burden on our relatively small (for our size) land forces, but we will do as we must. All we need to do, rather, is cripple by treaty his legal and economic apparatus supporting Slavery in his realm; and eventually slavery itself will have to fall, without the need for a long and expensive occupation.
This course of action is less than most in my government had in mind, but since in my own prior Age I had experience with Strator's like, I cautioned them against putting their expectations from military force too high. If we all compelled him to ban slavery altogether and liberate all current slaves (the second being one of our own conditions, also), would Strator not just reinstitute it the instant we left ten or twenty years hence? Almost certainly.
No, the answer is to make slavery so unprofitable for Strator that he'll abolish it himself out of sheer economic necessity, not to ram liberty down the throat of one who'd only spit it out the moment the spoon was removed from their mouth. Should he persist in his sadism long enough, that matter can be dealt with if and when it arises.
We hope you shall respect my government's position on this matter, for in no way does it deviate from our basic and fundamental opposition to slavery. It simply accepts that some things cannot be changed all at once, like many would wish, if they are still to be changed effectively.

Sincerely
Rilir Alarion nos Carthir
Secretary of State, United Socialist States of Wagdog
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 20:49
To: Rilir Alarion nos Carthir
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Destruction of Strator

I would like to point out that our naval forces are activley supressing military targets only, and we are not embarking on an attack protocol 1 (massive nuclear onslaught), but we are merely firebombing one city should he refuse to surrender. We could just as easily release the Aurora strain, but we do not wish to kill every Stratorian man, woman, and child. Our bombers and escorts are in the air, but after 23 hours, we can begin limited percision bombing. Even if we destroy the city, we believe we can minimize allied casualties. Cooincidentally, intelligence suggests we can conduct fire support for any and all of your ground forces, should they be equipped with IR designators.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Aust
19-02-2007, 21:08
To: Emperor William
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Destruction of Strator

We believe nothing says "regime change" quite like a 22 ton bomb. In all fairness, it will be at least 23 hours until the first JDAMs and Submunitions begin to drop, and our current naval shelling is almost entirely against military targets. 23 hours should be enough time for Strator to give in. However, until all demands are rejected, we will order the planes into holding positions approximatly an hour and a half from Strator. We will not halt shelling, both by missile and by gun, until all targets are eliminated.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”

We have followed a similar policy, adn have currently withdrawn our airforces to abses at our nearest coloney Nuevo Kowloon, which I hearby offer to you as a base for you operations should our demands not be met.

It is our belif that many of the main Strator targets have been destroyed by an Austian air raid earlier, especally Defenses on the east side of the nation and principle goverment and telecommunications instalations in thats ection. We advise you to attack there.

Empoer William
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 21:15
To: Emperor William
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Destruction of Strator

While I greatly appreciate your offer, our airforce is entierly UCAV modified with super computer terminals, though they have limited interface capabilities with human-controlled air-traffic control towers and human-controlled planes. None-the-less, all modern air strips have ILS support, and this should not be an issue. I'll extend the deadline to 48 hours.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 21:25
To: Rilir Alarion nos Carthir
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Destruction of Strator

I would like to point out that our naval forces are activley supressing military targets only, and we are not embarking on an attack protocol 1 (massive nuclear onslaught), but we are merely firebombing one city should he refuse to surrender. We could just as easily release the Aurora strain, but we do not wish to kill every Stratorian man, woman, and child. Our bombers and escorts are in the air, but after 23 hours, we can begin limited percision bombing. Even if we destroy the city, we believe we can minimize allied casualties. Cooincidentally, intelligence suggests we can conduct fire support for any and all of your ground forces, should they be equipped with IR designators.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Indeed they are so equipped, having recently purchased smoke grenades in that spectrum for our GP-30 grenade launchers, as part of our ongoing military upgrade. We may not deploy any precision munitions ourselves yet, although manufacture of some has begun to obtained designs, but we'd be happy to provide you targets. So long as you leave enough of Strator's southeastern military and air bases intact that we can occupy them without undue difficulty, pending an invasion of our own if Strator refuses our terms, we will not object to your actions. We hope you'll indeed extend your deadline for fireboming the capital; but if Strator himself must die, be assured we certainly will not shed tears for him and his capital of depravity. Only the innocents he insisted on dragging down with those....

Our Sincere Thanks,
Rilir Alarion nos Carthir,
Secretary of State, United Socialist States of Wagdog.
Mer des Ennuis
19-02-2007, 21:43
To: Rilir Alarion nos Carthir
From: Adam Wincenty
Re: Destruction of Strator

The deadline has indeed been pushed back. Our battlegroup has some light CE assets on hand, which are designed to prepare landing areas, regardless of the level of destruction imposed upon said area, in under 24 hours. We cannot necessarily say the same for military bases. Rest assured, however, that all evil in Strator will be swept away should he not surrender.

-Adam Wincenty
General of the Home Guard
Arch Arsonist of Mer des Ennuis
“Fear Ensures Loyalty!”
Silver Star HQ
19-02-2007, 22:15
To: All nations involved with destruction of Strator
From: SSHQ President Rogue
Subject: Destruction of Strator

The SSHQ requests that you do not fire on Stratorian beaches in the southwestern part of Strator. SSHQ marines wll be making a landing there shortly.
Wagdog
19-02-2007, 22:28
To: All nations involved with destruction of Strator
From: SSHQ President Rogue
Subject: Destruction of Strator

The SSHQ requests that you do not fire on Stratorian beaches in the southwestern part of Strator. SSHQ marines wll be making a landing there shortly.
We are operating in the extreme southeast, so that is no problem for us. Your concerns are noted and any pending fire missions there have been cancelled. Since the most convenient bases to seize for us lie in your area of operations though, as it turns out, might we assist in their capture by you and operate from them? Strator does not have long to reply and we are not averse to making his life more difficult.
Strator
20-02-2007, 03:15
To all those who are at war with me:

OOC: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

IC:

You have all fought the good fight, and I am afraid that I shall most definetly be destroyed if I do not give up.

The terms I shall follow:

1) Slavery shall only be in place of any crimes that are internationally accepted as a 25 years to life sentance.

2) All slaves currently held for crimes that have been abolished in recent months (ie:talking too loud) shall be released

3) All of the military equipment made after the war started shall be confiscated

4) every year I shall allow the Anti-Slave forces to pick half of all the slaves up for sale to be freed

5) I shall allow Anti-Slave forces to review the conditions of the slaves in my country

6) I shall free J.K Rowling to roam free in the world, writing her books

7) I shall allow Anti-Slave forces to disucss these terms over once a year at the summit and will take into consideration what new decisions they make

8) I shall give $50 million to all those forces that particpated in this war against my cause

*Terms 4-7 last for 25 years
Mer des Ennuis
20-02-2007, 03:45
OOC: Strator, uh, you might want to say "I unconditionally surrender, and I will order all forces to stand down. We can conduct peace negotiations in my capital." Seriously though, don't feel down that you got shitstomped on your first RP, it happens to alot of people. Personally, and oocily, my government is solely interested in the destruction of any and all links to us and slave purchases from you until this anti-slavery fad is over, then you can probably get back to business as usual.
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 04:28
To all those who are at war with me:

OOC: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

IC:

You have all fought the good fight, and I am afraid that I shall most definetly be destroyed if I do not give up.

The terms I shall follow:

1) Slavery shall only be in place of any crimes that are internationally accepted as a 25 years to life sentance.

2) All slaves currently held for crimes that have been abolished in recent months (ie:talking too loud) shall be released

3) All of the military equipment made after the war started shall be confiscated

4) every year I shall allow the Anti-Slave forces to pick half of all the slaves up for sale to be freed

5) I shall allow Anti-Slave forces to review the conditions of the slaves in my country

6) I shall free J.K Rowling to roam free in the world, writing her books

7) I shall allow Anti-Slave forces to disucss these terms over once a year at the summit and will take into consideration what new decisions they make

8) I shall give $50 million to all those forces that particpated in this war against my cause

*Terms 4-7 last for 25 years
"Well, what say you all?" Although he could summarily order the war continued or concluded, General Secretary Horridus knew that the privileges of dictatorship were best used lightly; especially when you could be forced to stand for election by a no-confidence vote interrupting your life-term if the Revolutionary Command Council felt you were going too far...
"We did what we came to do." Mario Iliescu said in his capacity as defense secretary. "It was a fun 'last hurrah' for our old-school forces, before we have to start withdrawing some major units from service for replacement. Now let us end it before we get stuck with a bunch of ungrateful civilians in any occupied zone for too long." His vampire's pragmatism was on display, as always.
"I agree as well... Comrade." Rilir was always cautious when calling Mario that, the Elven distaste even if not precisely hatred for vampires being well known. "Although it would be ethical as well to do more, it would not be practical. Accept the Stratorian terms of surrender, and let us conduct a brief occupation to secure the release of those slaves he shall give up."
The Education Secretary, Cde. Justina Stephens, was silent. She had been the most militant of all in pushing for war against Strator, out of sheer moralistic fury that any nation still bragged about practicing slavery anymore. She finally spoke up. "Fine. If we must make peace, even with... HIM... so be it. I'm the one who has to write it into the national cirriculum standards for our history books; so no, don't mind little old me..." She fumed, but let the issue drop nonetheless.
"Very well. But let's be proper about this first, friends." Horridus knew simply bowing out this early without consulting anyone would be a bad idea. "Signal our acceptance of terms to Strator, Mario. But let's not remove the knife from his throat just yet until he actually complies with our occupation of those facilities necessary to help evactuating those slaves he releases. That done, and the conference over, we can withdraw honorably." The rest of the RCC assented, with varying degrees of emotion, and walked out to leave the General Secretary alone with his wife and deputy, who just smiled at him with that old satisfied grin. He inquired, "What dear?"
"Nothing. People love a winner is all; especially me." She took on a sultry tone, but kept things chaste for the moment. "Try to keep your workload light tonight; I will. This war will need some fun to replace it soon." She took on the same perverse smile she'd had after many of the Wagdoggie Revolution's victories way back. And with that, she went off to prepare for the conference soon to start. General Secretary Horridus just stared at the empty council chamber, and gave a "SCHWING!" gesture much uncommon to men over 100 years old already; whether they looked it or not, as he didn't due to whatever mystical transformation had saved him so long ago and kept his wife in synch with his age the whole time.

After receiving the proper message, the Wagdoggie military moved to secure the extreme southwestern arc of Strator bordering Sing Hong, from the easternmost two coastal fortress areas up to the nearest command tower and down to the landlocked eastern fortress only, pending allied word of whether the nearer bases could be used. They trusted that Strator's men would lay down all arms and return to barracks confinement when approached...

Official Wagdoggie Government Communique to Strator
Your surrender is hereby accepted by us, as you have substantially accepted our terms offered. Your stipulation #4 might be deemed defiance, but #7 allows for that to be modified at the conference. We accept your responsible decision and shall argue our case in a more appropriate venue as soon as possible.
Strator
20-02-2007, 04:41
OOC: nah, im fine with this rp, it almost has as many views as other which have been running for more than a year, meh. we have all made history, I knew I would lose from the beginning considering that the first post i read on my thread was a threat
Strator
20-02-2007, 04:44
oh yeah, and Mer Des Ennuis. I don't want any dirty stinky people rampaging in my capital
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 05:38
OOC: nah, im fine with this rp, it almost has as many views as other which have been running for more than a year, meh. we have all made history, I knew I would lose from the beginning considering that the first post i read on my thread was a threat
OOC: T'was most fun, buddy.;) You're right on that about us making history, several major players involved with slavery are antsy thanks to me and the allies. Naturally I plan to keep them that way by all means short of more war, as your improvised forces gave me quite a combat as was.:mp5:
Oh, and I get how you might just have 100 frigates; still on the high side but more believable than some other things I've seen from players as new as you. If they're small enough, some "Frigates" really aren't much more than oceanic patrol boats. I even do that old "Battleship" joke a bit, since I operate some old Petya class coastal frigates as "Monitors" since, weak though they are, they're so large and powerful compared to the Stenka class antisubmarine cutters most of my coast guard uses that they might as well be "Monitors;" funny, eh?:p
Mer des Ennuis
20-02-2007, 05:52
Strator: I could always raze it... but i'm nice like that. I used to operate a whole bunch of Oliver Hazard Perrys, and I still do to a degree, but my coasties could probably afford a few hundred heavy cruisers, but that would be stupid.

Wagdog: when you say "several major players," who do you mean?
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 07:02
Strator: I could always raze it... but i'm nice like that. I used to operate a whole bunch of Oliver Hazard Perrys, and I still do to a degree, but my coasties could probably afford a few hundred heavy cruisers, but that would be stupid.

Wagdog: when you say "several major players," who do you mean?
OOC: Who to start? Blackhelm, Kesshite, Shazbotdom, Vault10, Atopiana & Skgorria, Swilatia; possibly even Automagfreek and/or Melkor (me=:eek:!). That doesn't even touch some of those nations' broader alliances, such as the Corporate Alliance (one reason I hope the UCN gets their charter straightened out ASAP so I can join.:headbang:) for Skgorria. Our buddy Strator here (and yes, you are that, strictly OOCly;)) hobnobbed with some serious NS powerbrokers before we in the Anti-Slavery Coalition took him down. And I, for one, doubt many of them are going to be too happy about it...
Mer des Ennuis
20-02-2007, 07:20
OOC: I'm not stopping my "slavery" practices, just calling it "convict labor," and keeping it as such. I'd be surprised of some of the other, larger nations such as AMF would even consider abandoning overt slave practices, but hey, keep the little 'uns in line I suppose.
Drafis
20-02-2007, 07:25
Like i said, im not dropping the slave trade, just making it more internationally friendly:) :p :D
Strator
20-02-2007, 07:28
Damnit, soz thats my earth X.

lol im gonna be a good guy, for now...

anyhoo, wagdog, what are the chances of a revolution breaking out in wagdog and allowing the slave trade... I like money and nobody wants to buy stuff from me :(
Automagfreek
20-02-2007, 08:02
OOC: Who to start? Blackhelm, Kesshite, Shazbotdom, Vault10, Atopiana & Skgorria, Swilatia; possibly even Automagfreek and/or Melkor (me=:eek:!). That doesn't even touch some of those nations' broader alliances, such as the Corporate Alliance (one reason I hope the UCN gets their charter straightened out ASAP so I can join.:headbang:) for Skgorria. Our buddy Strator here (and yes, you are that, strictly OOCly;)) hobnobbed with some serious NS powerbrokers before we in the Anti-Slavery Coalition took him down. And I, for one, doubt many of them are going to be too happy about it...



OOC: AMF has never and will never be apart of the slave trade or even support slavery. But even if Dreadfire did, I highly doubt he would be intimidated by anyone and bow to their demands.
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 09:04
OOC: AMF has never and will never be apart of the slave trade or even support slavery. But even if Dreadfire did, I highly doubt he would be intimidated by anyone and bow to their demands.
OOC: Whoa! Speak and he shall appear. Sorry for any implied aspersions, AMF. I should've put my mention of you into context better; I'm slightly backing Hataria from the sidelines in that whole Triumvirate of Evil thing against Strator, insofar as your fellow-named 'Triumvir' Chellis scares me more ICly (frivolously abandoning the UCN and declaring a war of genocide) than Hataria annoys me either way. Since they broadsided you in that thread, I figured it would be stupid not to bank on your interest in this matter, and thus possible plans against me for not wanting to see Hataria exterminated as is currently the threat they face.
All I want re: Hataria is to be an honest broker at the next peace conference, host or no. With all due respect but frankly, It's high time you stopped demanding each others' heads; starting with Hataria, and then Xharn and Chellis after. My uninvolvement in this matter entirely prior to now should help that; since with the help of another sane party besides myself and Farmina negotiating at the belligerents, something might be salvaged out of that whole Morocco mess... Anyway, overall, I mentioned you figuring AMF would best exemplify to Mer des Ennuis the bigger parties that could conceivably have a stake in this not-quite-so-little war against Strator.;) I freely and fully admit my error in the why of my dropping your name, OK?
Automagfreek
20-02-2007, 09:23
OOC: Not a big deal really, no need for apologies. Just thought I'd mention a few things before people started getting the wrong impression.
Vetaka
20-02-2007, 09:47
IC:

The Dominion would again like to invite all nations including Strator to the Anti-Slavery Innocence Summit to be held in the Vetaka Capital of Theeb. The Aim of the Summit is not to condem slave nations that use slavery as means to try and surive in this world. The aim is to stop a repeat of the Strator Slave War. We want to set up a charter so that nations whom need help can be helped and those that use slavery for a means of true evil can be quickly and effectively combated using peaceful and diplomatic measure at first but also using Military Action if those peaceful means fail.

Yours Dominion of Vetaka Forigen Affairs Secretary Scarlet Rogers
Strator
20-02-2007, 11:31
NEW slave deals:

In light of our new research into genetics, you can pick any of our slaves and ask for a complete set of however many of them you want!!! Find out more about this offer on the slave store :

http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518169
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 13:10
Damnit, soz thats my earth X.

lol im gonna be a good guy, for now...

anyhoo, wagdog, what are the chances of a revolution breaking out in wagdog and allowing the slave trade... I like money and nobody wants to buy stuff from me :(

NEW slave deals:

In light of our new research into genetics, you can pick any of our slaves and ask for a complete set of however many of them you want!!! Find out more about this offer on the slave store :

http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518169
OOC: Sorry for the delay. Needed some sleep.
You mean a "counterrevolutionary insurrection against the People's Government?" Not likely. I have multiple (if all of them leftist or left-dominated) parties, a functioning legislature which I'm soon to liberalize still more (see here... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518672)), and generally don't use State Security that much or heavily for a reason, now.;) But you can certainly stir up some riots or such we could RP; the vampire minority in my country (2% and holding) isn't exactly hostile to slavery as such, and there are certain fascist-in-all-but-name sub-parties in my Greenwood Coalition environmentalist/conservative bloc. They both love a good war as much as anything, mind, so that explains why they signed on against you. Now that peace is sort-of in place, however, one among them might just have a deal in store for you...
SIC:
To Strator the Almighty,
Do forgive my role in hostilities against you. You should know it was I as much as that pretentious Elf the Secretary of State who kept our terms as reasonable as they were. The Vampire religion we follow here, "The Way of the Chosen," stipulates that upon the blessed Lord Dracula's resurrection the humans shall indeed be made slaves to their rightful vampire masters. However, given our small and static numbers at the moment in this country, politics forces us to compromise with the humans here until that day comes; hence my support of the war as... a lark, if you will, something I'm sure you understand as a professed 'Dark Lord' yourself.
We understand you have some Uranium, yes? We have both a State mining concern (People's Resources Inc.) and many private counterparts who'd gladly help you develop your Uranium industry, which material we shall have use for soon for purposes too obvious to require naming. This must be carefully handled, with absolute secrecy; but there is no reason we cannot be businessmen with each other now that unpleasant matters are largely dealt with, yes?
As a gesture of good faith, I have a line-item for "Miscellaneous Doo-Dads and Widgets" in Wagdog's defense budget burning a hole in my coffers. What 'disciplinary equipment' might you supply a nostalgic vampire for his castles, to the tune of $100 million USD straight from our defense budget and properly laundered in various offshore accounts known only to me; eh Strator?
Sincerely and Discreetly, (Delete this transmission and burn all copies after reading)
Mario Iliescu
Secretary of Defense, United Socialist States of Wagdog
OOC2: Regarding the vampire religion I mentioned, it's basically an even mixture of Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism; but centered on the philosophies of, and mythology surrounding, Vlad Dracula (aka Vlad The Impaler) as opposed to Jesus.
Skgorria
20-02-2007, 13:22
OOC: Who to start? Blackhelm, Kesshite, Shazbotdom, Vault10, Atopiana & Skgorria, Swilatia; possibly even Automagfreek and/or Melkor (me=:eek:!)

OOC: Believe it or not, I don't operate slavery in Skgorria. I was genuinely looking for a few extra people to repopulate a colony of mine. Strator provided an interesting oppurtunity to do so, but I just got some people from Shazbotdom instead. As for Strator going under...meh, just one more newbie to chalk up on the Do-Gooders' Kill Count.
Danno10
20-02-2007, 14:24
Statement Issued from Danno10, Peoples Republic of Danno10

I will be wishing to purchase slaves, to educate them and use them in millitary camps. Is there really anything wrong with that? Its good for the slaves and good for us, that way everybody wins.

Signed,
Danno10
Silver Star HQ
20-02-2007, 15:21
We are operating in the extreme southeast, so that is no problem for us. Your concerns are noted and any pending fire missions there have been cancelled. Since the most convenient bases to seize for us lie in your area of operations though, as it turns out, might we assist in their capture by you and operate from them? Strator does not have long to reply and we are not averse to making his life more difficult.

While we would be fine with this, Strator has apparently surrendered. the SSHQ is currently debating over the terms.
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 16:04
While we would be fine with this, Strator has apparently surrendered. the SSHQ is currently debating over the terms.
Very well, our congratulations on the victory we share. The USSW has assumed control of the areas our forces were operating in; essentially the three easternmost newer defense positions, plus one control tower nearby to the northwest, and an arc surrounding these east to the Sing Hong border.
Are you still going to assume control of the southernmost air and army bases? We would certainly allow you to operate from them if we were allowed to expand our zone of occupation there; and should you take them instead, we naturally ask (and only ask) the same courtesy.
Aust
20-02-2007, 16:50
OOC: Damn, I've been out for a long, long, long time. Thing move so quickly in NS, you go away for 6 month and suddenly Hatria (!!!!) is a world power. hell I stomped him when he first cam on the seen. Hell... What the hell are you too on about. Anyways:

IC: TO: Strator
From: Aust

Your demands are considered and rejected. We demand the ceasage of all forms of slavery, and competle complience with our demands, as previously stated.
Clandonia Prime
20-02-2007, 20:11
OOC: Hataria a world power, god no!
Aust
20-02-2007, 20:16
OOC: Hataria a world power, god no!

OOC: Thank god for that!
Wagdog
20-02-2007, 21:16
OOC: Thank god for that!
OOC: Seconded.:rolleyes: I may be trying to get into the peace process on his side of the table, but only to keep Xharn and Chellis from carrying out their genocidal threats and setting an example for others that might possibly come back to bite me later if I step on the wrong fascist nation's toes. Aside from that, I'm not going to pretend I agree with Hataria's actions; I don't know what that would be precisely, but "honest" isn't it.
Although I will admit the IC Kazansky/Le Harvare affair was (still is I think) pretty funny.:D That's what inspired my own IC "multi-party, one-bedroom" political system, where the General and Deputy General Secretaries are common-law husband and wife respectively.
Silver Star HQ
20-02-2007, 22:34
Very well, our congratulations on the victory we share. The USSW has assumed control of the areas our forces were operating in; essentially the three easternmost newer defense positions, plus one control tower nearby to the northwest, and an arc surrounding these east to the Sing Hong border.
Are you still going to assume control of the southernmost air and army bases? We would certainly allow you to operate from them if we were allowed to expand our zone of occupation there; and should you take them instead, we naturally ask (and only ask) the same courtesy.

The SSHQ is planning to station some ships and planes there, but you are free to occupy the area. SSHQ forces are willing to help if you need any assistance.

OOC: I can't stand how Hataria capitalizes everything. But, then, I'm a pedagogue, so...
Mer des Ennuis
20-02-2007, 23:58
Re: Hataria's stupidity
Not to bash Hataria anymore, but check out my sig...
Strator
21-02-2007, 03:02
OOC: ah damn

IC:

To Aust:

I am afraid I cannot change my terms, attend the summit and you can make some decisions there, but I am not going to turn from slavery, and currently you are the only country at war with me. I still know that your country is a lot stronger but I am not going to change my terms. Do you want me to kidnap another writer, and J.K Rowling still has the bomb in her brain, I just need to get near her to detonate it. My terms stated that I will not rrecapture J.K, but I won't. "KABOOM" is the word my friend.
Carloginias
21-02-2007, 03:23
The Republic of Carloginias hereby condemns this act of inhumaness.

Your acts of slavery are disgusting. Slavery was abolished throughout our nation centuries ago, and for those still practicing this disgusting trade are the stallers of advancement into the modern world.
Strator
21-02-2007, 04:15
Sorry mate, yer a bit late for the party...

Hope you have fun condeming my slave trade and all, aight?

G'day
Silver Star HQ
21-02-2007, 04:22
and currently you are the only country at war with me.

OOC: *Cough* me *cough*
Strator
21-02-2007, 04:26
Eh? aww damn

IC:
I thought you liked my terms, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I want my mommy

*BANG*

sorry, one of my party members somehow got into my office...
Alright, So you still want to fight?
Mer des Ennuis
21-02-2007, 04:26
OOC: Strator, I could rescind my accecptance and turn your capital into a firestorm at the flick of a switch. I suggest you accecpt the offer.
Strator
21-02-2007, 04:28
Which offer? to hit hataria? im fine with that...
Wagdog
21-02-2007, 04:30
OOC: ah damn

IC:

To Aust:

I am afraid I cannot change my terms, attend the summit and you can make some decisions there, but I am not going to turn from slavery, and currently you are the only country at war with me. I still know that your country is a lot stronger but I am not going to change my terms. Do you want me to kidnap another writer, and J.K Rowling still has the bomb in her brain, I just need to get near her to detonate it. My terms stated that I will not rrecapture J.K, but I won't. "KABOOM" is the word my friend.
IC:

To Strator:
None of that shall be necessary, Strator. You have honored your terms for us, and so we shall reciprocate as is only civilized. We understand your attachment to slavery as a domestic fixture, even though we cannot empathize in the slightest and shall seek to regulate your practice thereof stringently at the conference; and only there, as is the proper place for it.

To Aust:
What did we say earlier when we justified the terms we offered Strator to the world? He has accepted those terms and surrendered to us all, so enough already! He is beaten; must you now break him as well? Show some honor at least, even if not mercy.
Freedom can be planted by force but not so nourished, however much many (not least of whom us) may wish it so, upon a ruler still inclined to abolish it the instant such force should slacken. We have stated our opinion (and no more, however strenuously so) regarding how best to bring freedom to Strator's oppressed subjects if such is indeed possible; we would appreciate if it were at least respected, and hostilities ceased until final peace terms can be decided at the conference as is the proper place. Our thanks, in hope that should motivate you to relent of this potentially catastrophic course you yet take; however justifiable in the abstract we agree it is.
Strator
21-02-2007, 04:31
Not even a small KABOOM? like... kaboom
Silver Star HQ
21-02-2007, 05:35
OOC: Strator, you might need a new sig.
Strator
21-02-2007, 13:23
What do you mean?
Strator
21-02-2007, 13:24
Oh.. damnit. Im gonna make it now
Aust
21-02-2007, 17:49
OOC: ah damn

IC:

To Aust:

I am afraid I cannot change my terms, attend the summit and you can make some decisions there, but I am not going to turn from slavery, and currently you are the only country at war with me. I still know that your country is a lot stronger but I am not going to change my terms. Do you want me to kidnap another writer, and J.K Rowling still has the bomb in her brain, I just need to get near her to detonate it. My terms stated that I will not rrecapture J.K, but I won't. "KABOOM" is the word my friend.

TO: Strator

Please, please kill JK Rowling. Please, seriously I really hate her and her incredably poor books. Go on, do it.

Right, that absurd threat asside, I am giving you 12 hours to comply to my demands before I launch a total war on you.

Emproer William
Wagdog
22-02-2007, 04:18
TO: Strator

Please, please kill JK Rowling. Please, seriously I really hate her and her incredably poor books. Go on, do it.

Right, that absurd threat asside, I am giving you 12 hours to comply to my demands before I launch a total war on you.

Emproer William
SIC:
Wagdoggie State Security listening stations having intercepted this message, General Secretary Horridus decided. "It seems we shall have to blunt as much of this as possible if we aren't to look like accessories to something most unpleasant here." Secretary of State Rilir agreed, having brought the report. Hence, the following notices were issued by the General Secretary.

IC:
To all our Allies against Strator:
Friends, please listen. The Anti-Slavery Innocence Conference, the hard work of Vetaka who has known much hardship of late, is soon to begin. It would be completely inconsiderate of us to Vetaka if we resumed the war in a mere fit of pique at Strator's known childishness as a ruler. Diplomacy, properly backed by force held in reserve, always trumps moralizing; so let us allow it to.
Why do we issue demands for further surrender? Strator already has surrendered. I am moving to take control of the southernmost two military bases, as agreed prior with the generous Silver Star HQ; and that gives me an eleventh-hour idea. We do not have to precipitate catastrophe here as so many reactionaries feared we would in this crusade of ours.
Perhaps we can pool our occupations? If you agree to let Strator surrender under my terms, pending final terms to be decided at the conference, I will allow you all access to my currently exclusive zone in Southeast Strator. We would all be able to police Strator's domain more effectively for compliance, and I wouldn't have to make more than a mobile constabulary deployment from my Red Guard to support our actions; allowing my Marines to be returned home.
Please consider this offer carefully. I would not think well upon being forced to break my word to even such a ruler as Strator, and I might just decide to sit renewed hostilities out within my controlled perimeter considering the sort of threats being made now. Let us show the world's collaborators that the free peoples still stand as one instead.

To Strator:
My forces move to take control of your southernmost military bases: one Army, one Air Force, and three southeastern Naval facilities, as per the terms of your surrender accepted earlier by me. Your cooperation is requested, and at least your obedience is demanded. Cooperation will mean better standing for you in my eyes; believe me, you do not want to know what defiance would earn you. So do not try to learn, please. Thank you. If it should ease any hurt my necessary demands may cause you, you may do whatever you wish to the party member who delivers this message to you; it doesn't concern me in the slightest, since you'd surely find a reason to do it eventually in any case.

In Southeastern Strator:
BTR-60s line the roads as the Wagdoggie Marines' movement to assert control over the two land bases goes on. The Marine Recon troops, now reunited with their subs and helicopters, move to seize control of the indicated naval sites. And the force of bombers, tankers, fighters and transports moves to either land at the air base indicated, or else make a paradrop to seize it forcibly. Strator would decide how this operation was to go...
Strator
22-02-2007, 07:08
To Wagdog:

You have my permission to move your troops in, I hope you do not take that as an invitation to try to attack me from the inside...
Strator
22-02-2007, 07:18
To Aust:

I do not like J.K Rowling books either, but as it appears you want me to blow her up, I shall give you an even more EVIL threat...

I shall give each slave Harry Potter books and give them other forms of entertainment such as:

Harry Potter play auditions
Harry Potter play
Harry Potter movies
Harry Potter dress up

By the time you try to free them they shall be reciting lines from Harry Potter over and over. I shall make J.K write more, and I shall use my new satellites to transmit Harry Potter movies on every channel of every TV in Aust. I shall have 100,000 copies of The Philosophers Stone and 250,000 of the new one shipped to you.

I would give up if I had been threatened such...
Wagdog
22-02-2007, 08:02
To Wagdog:

You have my permission to move your troops in, I hope you do not take that as an invitation to try to attack me from the inside...
We shall do no such thing. We will heavily garrison the area, both our current one and the additions; with approximately 10,000 men, 200 tanks, 200 APCs, 50 mobile howitzers, 50 MLRS, 100 SAMs plus their support vehicles, 50 CEVs, 1000 jeeps and 2,000 trucks under the Wagdoggie Seventh Army. Your southernmost military base will serve as Seventh Army HQ for the duration of our occupation term in your country.
The airbase will host the affiliated Seventh Army Air Force: 40 bombers, 40 tankers, 40 transports, 20 AWACS, and 60 interceptor fighters. More will be operating as well on a transitory basis, mainly to put Seventh Army fully in place and rotate out any departing personnel.
Our thanks go out to you for your cooperation, Almighty Strator. You have earned back your honorific in our government's eyes, as a matter of courtesy earned for courtesy given, and we shall argue your (limited) rights as best as possible at the pending conference.
Mer des Ennuis
22-02-2007, 08:11
To: Strator

We will begin landing troops along your shores with intent to move them inland. While their transports are spaceous, our soldiers are getting stir crazy and our sailors are demanding some form of shore leave. Furthermore, we are going to assign fighter/bomber drones to fly picket missions over and around your capital, to ensure that your airforce does indeed remain grounded and to provide emergency close-air support, if needed. As per the terms of your surrender, we demand complete and total compliances. Any attack on these forces will be delt with most harshly.
Aust
22-02-2007, 17:50
SIC:
Wagdoggie State Security listening stations having intercepted this message, General Secretary Horridus decided. "It seems we shall have to blunt as much of this as possible if we aren't to look like accessories to something most unpleasant here." Secretary of State Rilir agreed, having brought the report. Hence, the following notices were issued by the General Secretary.

IC:
To all our Allies against Strator:
Friends, please listen. The Anti-Slavery Innocence Conference, the hard work of Vetaka who has known much hardship of late, is soon to begin. It would be completely inconsiderate of us to Vetaka if we resumed the war in a mere fit of pique at Strator's known childishness as a ruler. Diplomacy, properly backed by force held in reserve, always trumps moralizing; so let us allow it to.
Why do we issue demands for further surrender? Strator already has surrendered. I am moving to take control of the southernmost two military bases, as agreed prior with the generous Silver Star HQ; and that gives me an eleventh-hour idea. We do not have to precipitate catastrophe here as so many reactionaries feared we would in this crusade of ours.
Perhaps we can pool our occupations? If you agree to let Strator surrender under my terms, pending final terms to be decided at the conference, I will allow you all access to my currently exclusive zone in Southeast Strator. We would all be able to police Strator's domain more effectively for compliance, and I wouldn't have to make more than a mobile constabulary deployment from my Red Guard to support our actions; allowing my Marines to be returned home.
Please consider this offer carefully. I would not think well upon being forced to break my word to even such a ruler as Strator, and I might just decide to sit renewed hostilities out within my controlled perimeter considering the sort of threats being made now. Let us show the world's collaborators that the free peoples still stand as one instead.

To: Wagdog

We understand your objects but oiur aim was the compelte destruction of the abomination that is slavery from Stator, unfortuntly it seem that he has not done so. However, due to your message we shall delay our actions until after the confrence.
Wagdog
22-02-2007, 21:15
To: Wagdog

We understand your objects but oiur aim was the compelte destruction of the abomination that is slavery from Stator, unfortuntly it seem that he has not done so. However, due to your message we shall delay our actions until after the confrence.
Our humblest thanks. Although you did not mention our offer of this, we will permit you to operate in our demarcated zone anyway as a token of gratitude. Naturally, resupply and such shall be on strictly a unit-need level; regardless of nationality. We will be flying and shipping heavy equipment from our homeland, though, so do be aware that said need may fall upon our own forces more gravely nonetheless.
Strator
23-02-2007, 06:14
To Mer de Ennuis:

Most of my troops are being mobilised to TPF, we intend to bomb them and I hope this does not interfere with your intentions.
Strator
23-02-2007, 11:30
BUMP
BUMP
BUMP
BUMP
BUMP
BUMP
BUMP
Mer des Ennuis
23-02-2007, 18:19
Strator, you don't seem to understand the idea of a blockade. No military equipment other than what we allow will enter your nation, and we'd be fools to even consider allowing you to mobilize forces for foreign deployment. In lieu of further information from Aust or Wagdog, any attempt to deploy troops will be considered a hostile act, and met with extreme destruction of both the mobilizing/deploying units and selected parts of your country. I hope our nation's position is quite clear.
Strator
24-02-2007, 04:01
I already had troops out of the area so I am going to have to use only those
Wagdog
24-02-2007, 06:12
Strator, you don't seem to understand the idea of a blockade. No military equipment other than what we allow will enter your nation, and we'd be fools to even consider allowing you to mobilize forces for foreign deployment. In lieu of further information from Aust or Wagdog, any attempt to deploy troops will be considered a hostile act, and met with extreme destruction of both the mobilizing/deploying units and selected parts of your country. I hope our nation's position is quite clear.
OOC: Hey Strator, you like blowing things up right?:D I've got an eenterrestingk offer if you do...

IC:
To Mer des Ennuis: Actually, we wouldn't mind lifting certain of Strator's restrictions considering the... changed international context surrounding this matter. We do agree though that Stratorian forces should be attached to ours though, so no new actions in breach of the surrender occur.

To Strator: We have a proposition for you, knowing how much you like to fight. You can regain access to your fleets and armies to join us in moving to protect Vetaka, should they need it as we feel they will. They were gracious enough to host a conference deciding your fate; it would be an excellent way indeed to regain the international community's trust if you helped them teach the fools in Londim a lesson.
If you agree, our occupation of your Southeast would still stand, and your ships would be attached to our fleet directly under our command; but in return, we would defend your land against any retaliation and allow the award of whatever medals you give to your men, should they earn those and conduct themselves as we deem proper. It is humbly advised that you consider this offer, please; and the specific circumstances in which it is made to you by us.
Mer des Ennuis
24-02-2007, 07:24
OOC: Consider this a paraphrased IC post; Wagdog, if you want his forces under yours, go right ahead. I feel that my forces are a) professional enough and b) skilled enough and c) well enough equipped that if Stratorian forces were attached in almost anyway, it would cause a lowering in effectiveness. Since you are a poorer/smaller nation than mine (no offense ment, I was the same way for a long, long time), his forces might benefit yours.
Strator
24-02-2007, 11:04
To Wagdog:

I gladly accept your offer, my personal Kirov is still in Vetaka airspace, I have been waiting for permission to destroy the Londim ships. My forces will be mobilised ASAP. I ask permission to 100 AIDS troops and a squadron of commandos to be used in an attack on Londim, I plan to capture the president. I shall not harm him, I will just turn him over to Vetaka.
Wagdog
24-02-2007, 18:47
To Wagdog:

I gladly accept your offer, my personal Kirov is still in Vetaka airspace, I have been waiting for permission to destroy the Londim ships. My forces will be mobilised ASAP. I ask permission to 100 AIDS troops and a squadron of commandos to be used in an attack on Londim, I plan to capture the president. I shall not harm him, I will just turn him over to Vetaka.
Hmm... You are in position for this, but that would tip my hand even if strengthening it all the same. Could you claim responsibility for this alone; and take the utmost covert measures to make the Londim President truly 'disappear' into Vetakan custody; or mine if need be?
Don't worry, that isn't to sell you out; just to keep our little 'Black Hand' act going for as long as possible. I have word Vetaka wishes us as univolved as possible, and I intend to respect that at least apparently. Regarding the ships, act as you need to protect the delegates' evacuation. My wife is among them, evacuating now; and I naturally want her back safely above all.
Please hold at readiness for now. Should things worsen again, use your fleet as you feel needed to cover your op, so long as this cannot be traced back to me before my mobilization is complete. 'Discretion' is the word, my friend. My ships will remain in radio contact with yours, but we're returning to port at Aiglet Harbor on Shoe Island to refit with MiG-29K and Su-25UTG aircraft newly-produced and certified for carrier ops. I don't dare send our beloved antiques against Londim's like in a naval air fight. That done, we sail to back you up in International Waters, to protect Vetakan and third-party shipping as part of a Neutrality Patrol; a task which should be familiar to you and which I have a new escort carrier group commissioning for as we speak.
Bah. I'm rambling here. Suffice it to say: good hunting, Almighty Strator. So long as our terms are held to (meaning no enslaving POWs; it is tempting, but it would cause us both more problems than anything), act as you see fit and we'll move to back you up.
Sincerely,
General Secretary Horridus

OOC: OK, here's what I'm sending back to port to refit. Shoe Island is basically an AU Guam, with Aiglet Harbor being a renamed Apra Harbor; a real-life USN major base. The units...
First and Second Red Banner Fleets (only major units named for convenience), returning to port pending refit.
2 Pr.85M carriers: UWS Ernesto 'Che' Guevara de la Serna and UWS Peng Dehuai
2 Pr.82RM large missile cruisers: UWS Haymarket Square and UWS Long March
2 Pr.70EM Dzerzhinsky Class light missile cruisers.
10 Pr.774 "Polnocny-D" Class landing ships, with two RBMC Commando Landing Teams in all.
20 Pr.1559B Boris Chilikin Class replenishment ships
40 Pr.61M "Kashin-Mod" missile destroyers; again 1 escort per larger ship plus 4 pickets for the whole fleet.
20 Pr.641B "Tango" class submarines.

And Sixth Fleet (newly commissioned), deploying on Neutrality Patrol.
2 Pr.1143.5 Kiev Class STOL/ASW carriers, UWS Leon Trotsky and UWS Karl Liebknecht; each packing 10 Yak-41M Freestyle-A STOVL fighters, 5 Yak-41U Freestyle-B STOVL trainers, 4 Ka-27 ASW Helicopters, 4 Ka-29 utility/assault choppers, and 2 Ka-31 AEW choppers.
2 Pr.1174 Ivan Rogov Class LPDs, UWS Red Front and UWS Red Dawn; each packing some 600 men, 10 fire-control APCs, 10 self-propelled guns, and 52 infantry APCs for their onboard Commando Landing Teams (No.6 and No.12), ready to board by air any vessel threatening free trade; or raid by air and sea any enemy port engaged in same.
4 Pr.1883 Berezina Class AOEs, one for each major warship as well as the fleet entire.
12 Pr.1154 Neustrashimy Class FFGs, one for each major vessel plus four fleet pickets. These are named after half of the 24 destroyers you sank with the AIDS, ironically; with 12 more on the way in the next few years' time.
20 Pr.636 "Improved Kilo" Class SSKs, acting as distant pickets and equipped with newly-produced Sunburn and Sampson cruise missiles for a wide range of capabilities against naval and land targets.
Strator
25-02-2007, 13:10
To wagdog:

My kirov is currently tailing the evacuating ships, none of them shall be damaged, I shall make sure of it.
Silver Star HQ
26-02-2007, 02:53
To: Strator
From: SSHQ Foreign Minister
Subject: Landing in southwest Strator


The SSHQ is looking for permission to land marines and dock ships in the southwestern Strator. None will fire unless it is in self-defense.
Strator
26-02-2007, 10:22
To Silver Star HQ:

I am fine with it but I need to be told the reason for doing so...
Silver Star HQ
26-02-2007, 12:49
To: Strator
From: SSHQ Foreign Affairs
Subject: Fuel

The SSHQ forces will primarily be refueling there.
Strator
26-02-2007, 13:32
To Silver Star HQ:

Permission granted
Kurzhivsk
26-03-2007, 15:56
To Strator:

Kurzhivsk is interested in purchasing as many slaves as you can sell. Please telegram me ASAP.
McPsychoville
26-03-2007, 16:02
To Strator:

Kurzhivsk is interested in purchasing as many slaves as you can sell. Please telegram me ASAP.

[Read the thread. There's a goddamn blockade going on to make sure the slave trade stops at least in Strator.]
Solyhniya
26-03-2007, 16:02
To Strator,

I plead with you not to sell human lives to Kurzhivsk. Through hostile actions towards us, they have made it clear that they wish to use these slaves for military purposes against Solyhniya. Our supreme military forces do not want to have to fight innocent slaves, should Kurzhivsk do what they have been threatening and wage war on Solyhniya and Serbiya.
Vetaka
26-03-2007, 16:04
OOC:

I still have a Naval Carrier Fleet in your waters and 12,000 Men on you southeastern flank no slave sales. Period!!!!!!!! or im gonna star throwing some tank shells about.

Strator if you sign the Theeb Accords the Vetakan Strator Deployment will withdraw.

Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: All Prosepctive Nations seeking Strator Slaves
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

The Dominion of Vetaka will not allow any Slave Transactions to be made between Strator and any other nation. The Dominion of Vetaka currently maintains an active deployment in South East Strator we will respond with force if required to stop any transaction. The Dominion of Vetaka is a signature of the Theeb Accords. We encourage Strator and all other nations to join the accords and abide by them should this happen Vetaka will withdraw its forces and this message will be void.

Yours Vetakan Foreign Affairs Secretary Scarlet Rogers
Wagdog
26-03-2007, 17:44
OOC:

I still have a Naval Carrier Fleet in your waters and 12,000 Men on you southeastern flank no slave sales. Period!!!!!!!! or im gonna star throwing some tank shells about.

Strator if you sign the Theeb Accords the Vetakan Strator Deployment will withdraw.

Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: All Prosepctive Nations seeking Strator Slaves
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

The Dominion of Vetaka will not allow any Slave Transactions to be made between Strator and any other nation. The Dominion of Vetaka currently maintains an active deployment in South East Strator we will respond with force if required to stop any transaction. The Dominion of Vetaka is a signature of the Theeb Accords. We encourage Strator and all other nations to join the accords and abide by them should this happen Vetaka will withdraw its forces and this message will be void.

Yours Vetakan Foreign Affairs Secretary Scarlet Rogers
OOC
Vetaka, if you need to know why I'm backing AMF here, there are essentially a few reasons. First, my General Secretay sees Lord Dreadfire as essentially kindred, both being raised from the dead by mysterious happenstance and also being essentially vigilantes; albeit of different causes. And second, my country feels that with such a 'stick' as the prospect of AMF's wrath to back them up, the 'carrot' of the Theeb Accords might smell that much sweeter to the slaver nations (considering the alternative).
I'm not trying to suborn genocide here, don't worry; should AMF blow his top in our area of responsibility (soon to be shared as UFAN members I reckon), I agree we should protect the innocent at all costs and come what may. I only want to see the slavers' governments and traffickers exterminated, nobody else; and not even those ideally, if we can convince AMF that the Accords would be effective as an alternative to summary military action given his official support of them. Your take?

IC
Wagdoggie Corollary to The Vetakan Pronouncements
TO: Vetaka, Strator
FROM: Wagdog

We advise you heed our ally Vetaka, Strator; for although our army has departed we are still watching you with intense scrutiny. So far, we are not impressed with your attempts to skirt the terms of your surrender. At. All. Nor, for that matter, is Supreme Warlord Dreadfire of the Excessively Armed Empire of AutoMagFreek impressed either. You should thank Doomingsland for being so foolish as to incur his wrath first, and thus give you time to choose a path besides utter destruction.
Upon which path, of course, signing the Theeb Accords and cooperating with them to regain full sovereignty of your realm would be the ideal place to start. Then, our nation and the Dominion of Vetaka might just be able to treat with the Excessively Armed Empire to spare you from the whirlwind of punishment you shall most assuredly reap after sowing the black wind of iniquity for so long. What say you, Madam Secretary Rogers? Might we be able, with cooperation in setting up the proper channels, to convince AutoMagFreek of Strator's recognizance should he adopt the Accords?

Sincerely and with Hope,
Rilir Alárion nós Carthir
Party Secretary, Wagdoggie Greenwood Coalition
Secretary of State, United Socialist States of Wagdog
Trollskog
26-03-2007, 18:25
King Djupetfodd II would like to purchase as many human slaves as he can, and is prepared to pay up to the equivalent of 200 million dollars for them.

Slavery Minister Nattvatte of Trollskog
Racstz
26-03-2007, 18:50
Racstz would like to pledge its support of the slave trade within this certain circumstance, although the term slave is slightly important as many countries have had shameful participation in the black slave trade of the past centuries, these people had comitted no crimes and it was a dire act.
In this circumstance however these people have comitted crimes, it would therefore in our view be beneficial to society and the economy if these 'slaves' were permitted to work in other countries, however we also believe that they should pay their debt to their own society and not to that of other countries.

Regards

On the behalf of
The Emperor of Racstz
Vetaka
27-03-2007, 10:02
Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Strator
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: Increase in Vetakan Deployment

Because of your hostile actions towards the another Sovereign League member in the Llanoran crisis the Vetakan High Command has decided to increase its current deployment of occupation quite considerably to counter any hostile threat posed towards the Vetakan Force.

I make this clear to you now any threat to the Vetakan Force will result in the appropriate action being taken.

Yours Vetakan Foreign Affairs Secretary Scarlet Rogers
Strator
27-03-2007, 11:14
OOC: guys, I cannot sell slaves except for underground sales and stuff, I have been trying to, but I do supply weapons for slave trading union members extra cheap.

IC:

To Vetaka:

Llanoran is my ally and was under attack, I find that reason enough to back them in this. Nothing more to be said.
Vetaka
27-03-2007, 17:49
Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Strator
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

The Dominion of Vetaka respects your alliance and your desire to protect your Allies. However in the process you fired upon a Sovereign League Member. The Vetakan 3rd Fleet is now off the coast enforcing a total Naval Blockade. The Vetakan 3rd Army is now in position in the South East Occupation Zone.

Vetakan 3rd Army: 250,000 Troops
Vetakan 3rd Battlefleet: 300 in total/ 250 Combatants

Any further act of aggression towards Sovereign League Members will be responded to by force. Any further Slave Transactions will also be met by force. I again enccourage you to adopt sign the Theeb Accords and request aid from the Strando Protocal.

Yours President and Lord Govenor Roxanne Wright.
Theoropia
27-03-2007, 18:57
The Armed States of Theoropia

TO: Strator
RE: Vetaka

In this circumstance, the Theoropian government agrees with the Vetaka government. Although we are in no part allied with the Sovereign Union, we do look down on the selling of human beings. We encourage you, as Vetaka and Theoropia and countless others did, to sign the Theeb Accords and abolish slavery. If Vetaka attacks you, they have the full support and backing of the Theoropian government.

Signed,
Great Khan Eric
Supreme Commander
Lesser Khan Theo
War Chief
Finchs Nazi Germany
27-03-2007, 19:16
TO:Allied Forces Against Straitor(AFAS)

The Fuhrer Finch has Decided to test its military might in this war.
We pledge our full military strength to support war efforts.

Army:
2nd SS Division Das Reich: 75,000 Men

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/Finchy_000/finchsss.jpg

13th Panzer Division:600 PanzerVII's, 25,000men

Luftwaffe:
101st Luftwaffe Air Group: 480 messerschmitt F102's

83rd Luftwaffe Bombing Group: 120 ME 211's

Kriegsmarine(War Navy)
SchultsKreig Battle Group: 1 carrier, 3 pocket Battleships, 12 Heavy Cruisers, 18 Destroyers, 26 U-boats.
Vetaka
28-03-2007, 00:03
OOC: Sorry but are you intending to engage my forces or you intending to support me.
Zackaroth
28-03-2007, 00:05
TO:Allied Forces Against Straitor(AFAS)

The Fuhrer Finch has Decided to test its military might in this war.
We pledge our full military strength to support war efforts.

Army:
2nd SS Division Das Reich: 75,000 Men

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/Finchy_000/finchsss.jpg

13th Panzer Division:600 PanzerVII's, 25,000men

Luftwaffe:
101st Luftwaffe Air Group: 480 messerschmitt F102's

83rd Luftwaffe Bombing Group: 120 ME 211's

Kriegsmarine(War Navy)
SchultsKreig Battle Group: 1 carrier, 3 pocket Battleships, 12 Heavy Cruisers, 18 Destroyers, 26 U-boats.


OOC: I hope to god its supporting Vetaka other wise he's gonna have fun.