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The Alurza Main
A densely packed series of stars that are all within 1 parsec of one another, making it an ideal trade route for the star nations in the Ekuur, Raymore, Opheim, Kandom, Dryden, Soar and Affuel star systems. This region also includes the star systems of Backman, Hervestia, and Neefi which have undeveloped garden worlds.

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Conflict
In 2300, the star nations of Sharina (Soar/Sharina), Bazalonia (Opheim/Bazalonia), Samtonia (Kandom/Samtonia), and Amestria (Ekuur/Amestria) all make claims on various systems in the area, and both Sharina and Amestria send fleets toward Shanii and Khanii in the very heart of the Alurza Main. A collision course for war is set in motion as a result of these moves.

Also operating in the area is New Shiron, which keeps a small naval squadron to maintain a quarantine around the inner system of Shanii, and in response to intelligence that the powers are moving on Shanii, decides to beef up its fleet in the area to ensure no one accidently or otherwise releases whatever plague lives on Shanii/Miranda. A plague so deadly that it wiped out the tens of millions that had lived there until 2226.

Shanii/Miranda
May 30, 2300
A large fleet from Sharina enters the system.

They find that New Shiron has a patrol there consisting of the heavy cruisers Regina and Anchorage, fleet battlestars Marathon, Thermophylae, 1 DesRon, and 1 ScoutRon, under the command of Vice Admiral Andrea O'Connor, Princess of New Shiron.

It is told in no uncertain terms that it many not approach with 5 AU of the planet Miranda, but may refuel at Shanii 6 (the outermost Gas Giant)

A cold but polite soprano voice filled the speakers and the image of a beautiful and young looking blond woman filled the view screen.

"Greetings Admiral, I have instructions from my brother the King to ensure that NO ships approach Miranda to avoid spreading the contagion that killed the inhabitants. I must insist that you not force me to take direct action to ensure your compliance with my instructions."

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Sharina is 150 days from home, New Shiron on the other hand, is a mere 100 days from home (better jump makes up for the difference in distances)

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reposted from Claims and coflict thread

Fleets from Amestria enter the Raymond/Philanchez system on February 4, 2300, where they are met by patrols from that systems Navy. Discussions on refueling and transit rights begin.

Talks between the two nations continue for 2 weeks before Philanchez grudgingly says the following: "The Amestrian fleet is allowed to refuel and go on its way. For a fee of 5 trillion per year, Amestria can refuel and make port whenevr they please in our system"

Within a few days after that, the Amestrian fleet has finished refueling, as have follow on fleets that have arrived since, and all leave the system on March 1.

After the entire Amestrian fleet has passed through, the Amestrian Government informs the Philanchez Government that such a fee is far too high...in fact, ridiculously too high.

This in turn angers the people of Philanchez, and the press on that world raises an uproar, demanding that the government close the star system to Amestrian military traffic, and if necessary, civilian traffic as well until Amestria learns some respect.

The Philanchez government debates the issue (OOC, so whatever he decides to do at this point)

Armada from Amestria

Voyage from Raymore to Kanii
March 20 – fleets leave Raymore
March 27 – arrive Feeble system.
March 28 – April 7 - Travel from 5 AU out to the inner system. Fleet determines that main world is essentially useless for refueling purposes. Small task force left behind to guard Feeble 4 (outermost gas giant). Fleets refuel and head out system
April 10 – fleet leaves Feeble system.
April 17 – fleet arrives Coop system
April 18 – 26 – Travel from 5 AU out into the inner system. Fleet determines outermost gas giant Coop 7 is suitable for refueling and due to its position outside of the jump limit is strategically valuable. Mainworld Coop 2 and inner gas giant, Coop 4 are determined to also be very suitable for outposts and refueling. Fleet Commander decides to leave 3 small task groups to guard each of those worlds.
April 26 – May 1- After refueling fleet moves out to jump point.
May 7 – Fleet arrives at Khanii system.
May 8 – 25 – Travel from 5 AU out into the inner system and survey completed. The main world, Khanii 2, is a water world with much of its surface permanent ice pack mainly due to its limited atmosphere (thinner even then Mars). However its an ideal refueling stop, as are the gas giants Khanii 4 and 7. Khanii 3, also a gas giant, is too radioactive to safely approach without nuclear dampers (tech level 11) and is essentially useless. The Fleet refuels, and prepares to make its next jump.

Admiral DuGaulle, Fleet commander, decides at this point to leave his second in command, Vice Admiral Darlen in the system with all of the transports and a significant force as a reserve. Concerned about the delay caused at Raymore, DuGaulle decides to jump into the Shanii system with only combat and scouting forces as he is convinced that there is a significant probability that a fleet from Sharina may have reached that system ahead of him. Home is 100 days away, and he is also worried about the possible political (and therefore military) repercussions of the disagreement with Philanchez which is right on his supply line.

May 26 – Fleet jumps for Shanii system
June 2 – Fleet arrives at Shanii system

Amestrian fleet reaches Shanii with 20 CVL (light battlestars), 3 CL (light cruisers), 10 DesRon (destroyer squadrons). It arrives near Shanii 6, the outermost Gas Gaint, and is quickly spotted by the Sharinan fleet, and in turn spots them.

Shanii Star System
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Tactical Situation Shanii System June 2, 2300

The Sharinan Fleet has 4 BC (battlecruisers), 4 CA (armored cruisers), 20 CG (missile cruisers), 8 CL (light cruisers), 4 DesRon, and 4 ScoutRon (1 DesRon has left to head for home for orders) escorting 20 CVL (light battlestars), and 50 transports (carrying ground troops and fleet stores) under the command of Admiral Hjalmarr Katsu.

The Sharinan Fleet has refueled at Shanii 6 and is orbiting that world waiting for instructions from home as Admiral Katsu is reasonably certain that the Amestrian fleet should be showing up soon, and even if he advances no further up the Main, he can prevent the Amestrian Fleet from advancing down the chain toward the worlds that the Sharinan 2nd Fleet is already guarding.

The Amestrian fleet does not have sufficient fuel to jump. It does have however sufficient fuel to maneuver for 3 weeks. Shanii 4 could be used to refuel from IF Princess Andrea O'Conner, commander of the New Shironi squadron of 2 CH, 2 CVL, 1 DesRon and 1 ScoutRon can be persuaded not to interfere.

The Amestrian fleet has a 5 AU (2 day) head start over the Sharinan fleet should it head into the inner system and refuel, which would allow it time to do so before the Sharinan fleet could bring it to battle (should it come to that). Both fleets are well out of fighter range of each other.

This in turn angers the people of Philanchez, and the press on that world raises an uproar, demanding that the government close the star system to Amestrian military traffic, and if necessary, civilian traffic as well until Amestria learns some respect.

The Philanchez government debates the issue (OOC, so whatever he decides to do at this point)

The High President of the Republic sends his official apologies to the Philanchez government (and press) for the "overly curt response," but repeats the Amestrian Republic's position that the such a fee would be far too high, and quiet impossible for Amestria, with its many other obligations, to pay. The President voices his Governments hopes that an equitable solution can be reached through fair negotiations free from "threats and disruptive pressures."

The Amestrian Ambassador to Philanchez offers the Government, in exchange for uninterrupted transit and refueling, joint colonization of the Feeble system, tax free use of all Amestrian colonial (i.e. outside the Ekuur system) ports by Philanchez commerce vassals (which will stretch across half the Alurza sector), assistance in protecting Alurza sector Philanchez commerce by the Amestrian Colonial Fleet, and a yearly payment of 100 billion.

The Amestrian fleet does not have sufficient fuel to jump. It does have however sufficient fuel to maneuver for 3 weeks. Shanii 4 could be used to refuel from IF Princess Andrea O'Conner, commander of the New Shironi squadron of 2 CH, 2 CVL, 1 DesRon and 1 ScoutRon can be persuaded not to interfere.

The Amestrian fleet has a 5 AU (2 day) head start over the Sharinan fleet should it head into the inner system and refuel, which would allow it time to do so before the Sharinan fleet could bring it to battle (should it come to that). Both fleets are well out of fighter range of each other.

Admiral DuGaulle puts on his finest uniform and sends a cordial message to Princess Andrea O'Conner, politely informing her that Amestria has no intent of violating the quarantine, settling in the sector, or fighting it out with Sharina ("we are just passing through and have no wish to start any shooting") and asks for permission to refuel Shanii 4. He also invites her to dinner aboard his Le Redoutable class flagship, the Bonaparte.

The Admiral sends an equally polite, but very firm message to Admiral Hjalmarr Katsu, identifying his fleet as the advanced guard of the Amestrian Expeditionary Force. DuGaulle airily informs the Sharinian that he has claimed the Khanii system for Amestria and it is at that very moment being settled. Katsu, least he get any ideas, is also informed that "extensive preparations" have been made for the Khanii Systems defense. That out of the way, he congratulates his opposite of having made it so far from home and cordially invites the Sharinian to dinner aboard his flagship "when it is most convenient."

Princess Andrea politely declines the dinner invitation, as it would be inconsistant with New Shironi neutrality.

However, to avoid potential conflict, she does authorize the Amestrian fleet to refuel at Shanii 4, as long as it leaves the system by June 10.

She also sends a message to the Sharinan fleet asking it to please depart the system in order to prevent conflict.

Admiral Katsu, with orders of his own, graciously agrees and his fleet jumps out of the system on June 3.

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the destination would be unknown to players at this point. I know where it went though.

Princess Andrea politely declines the dinner invitation, as it would be inconsistant with New Shironi neutrality.

However, to avoid potential conflict, she does authorize the Amestrian fleet to refuel at Shanii 4, as long as it leaves the system by June 10.

Admiral DuGaulle graciously agrees and, after refueling his ships at Shanii 4, returns his fleet to the Khanii System, having decided that advancing beyond the Shanii System at this point would be unwise.

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the destination would be unknown to players at this point. I know where it went though.

OOC: If the Sharinan fleet jumped to Khanii, how long would it take for Vice Admiral Darlen to detect it? Also, what is the status of the Khanii 2 outpost that is currently under construction?

Being made away of the interaction between the Shironese, Sharinian and the Amestrians the Bazalonians releasee a statement through their Shironese embassies to nations which may have an interest.

"The standoff between the Sharina Technocracy and the people of Amestria are of great concern to us. Any attack made will be sure to distabilise the region and will certainly cause problems for the entire Main. As such the use of force to resolve differences will be seen as a major problem, we however will keep all options open and will not restrict ourself to one particular course of action should hostilities occur between each nation."

"In addition, In an effort to build a bridge towards our Neighbour Samtonia, we will be dropping the proposal and will be offering the Samtonia's passage through all Bazalonian space for Transports and Corvettes only. Other ships maybe given permission but on a case-by-case basis."

OOC: If the Sharinan fleet jumped to Khanii, how long would it take for Vice Admiral Darlen to detect it? Also, what is the status of the Khanii 2 outpost that is currently under construction?

When the Amestrian fleet returns to Khanii, no sign of the Sharinan fleet is discovered. Best estimate by fleet intelligence is that the Sharinan fleet backed off to the Wayboni system and doubtless holds it in great strength.

Diplomats in New Shiron propose that Shanii be made an DMZ patrolled by New Shiron to pevent conflict.

Diplomats in New Shiron propose that Shanii be made an DMZ patrolled by New Shiron to pevent conflict.

Amestrian diplomats on New Shiron agree that "that uninhabited plague infested system would make an excellent neutral barrier."

"In addition, In an effort to build a bridge towards our Neighbour Samtonia, we will be dropping the proposal and will be offering the Samtonia's passage through all Bazalonian space for Transports and Corvettes only. Other ships maybe given permission but on a case-by-case basis."

The government of the Darwinistic Commonality of Samtonia thanks the nation of Bazalonia for showing inspired judgement and attempting to warm relations with this magnanimous policy.

-SNIP-

The Alliance denies this offer. Amestria currently has no colonies to offer and therefor is giving us an empty offer. We demand 1 trillion per year fo uniterupted military traffic until such a time as Amestria can make more settled offers. We also ask the you recognize our claim over the Feeble System.

The Alliance denies this offer. Amestria currently has no colonies to offer and therefor is giving us an empty offer. We demand 1 trillion per year fo uniterupted military traffic until such a time as Amestria can make more settled offers. We also ask the you recognize our claim over the Feeble System.

The Alliance is informed that the Amestrian Republic has undisputed control of the Feeble, Coop, and Khanii systems, has patrol fleets in all three sectors, and is at this very moment constructing outposts. Amestria will not recognize Philanchez's empty claim over a system it does not even control.

“Amestria,” announces the Amestrian Ambassador proudly, “is in control of the Feeble System.”

Armada from Amestria

Voyage from Raymore to Kanii
March 20 – fleets leave Raymore
March 27 – arrive Feeble system.
March 28 – April 7 - Travel from 5 AU out to the inner system. Fleet determines that main world is essentially useless for refueling purposes. Small task force left behind to guard Feeble 4 (outermost gas giant). Fleets refuel and head out system
April 10 – fleet leaves Feeble system.

The Alliance is informed that the Amestrian Republic has undisputed control of the Feeble, Coop, and Khanii systems, has patrol fleets in all three sectors, and is at this very moment constructing outposts. Amestria will not recognize Philanchez's empty claim over a system it does not even control.

“Amestria,” announces the Amestrian Ambassador proudly, “is in control of the Feeble System.”

Bazalonia notes that is neither relinquished it's claims on Coop or Khanii. However an arrangement has been made about Coop. But by no means are they undisputed.

Bazalonia notes that is neither relinquished it's claims on Coop or Khanii. However an arrangement has been made about Coop.

It is noted it cannot be disputed those systems are under Amestrian control. However, that is not to say their status is not up for negotiation.

The Bazalonians see conflict brewing brewing the between The Alliance and Amestria over the conflict between passage rights decides to step in.

"A compromise needs to be done here, which can only be acheived by both parties sitting down and willing to give and take to finbd a suitable compromise. One that respects the home system of the Alliance while giving the Amestrians the passage through that they need.

Admirals in the Main realize that eventually all of their ships will need to go home for maintenance until forward shipyards and bases are constructed.

In order to keep 40% of the fleet on station, 60% will have to be on its way home, in the dockyard, or on its way back on station.

The following is a draft of an agreement secretly negotiated between Amestria, Bazalonia, and Samtonia during secret conferences on New Shiron. The Agreement has not yet been finalized, but talks are in the final stages and it is felt that it would best for the diplomacy at this time to become much more public in nature.

Draft Alurza Sector Agreement

Pre-amble:

The nations of Amestria, Bazalonia and Samtonia agree to the following document. The hitherto nations, hitherto referred to as the signatories believing that joint economic and colonization activities by all signatories will lead to a greater understanding between those of various backgrounds and cultures as well as closer ties between all those within the sector.

Joint Operations:

A Trial of jointly sponsored and run colonies by the signatories of this Agreement shall be held on the systems of Bifirs, Guild, Beep, Oath, Gilboa, and Gecko. No one may claim or utilise the systems of Trot, Hewes, and Raasaara until the trial joint operations in the previously mentioned systems has been determined. At which if it was determined to be successful the Trot, Hewes and Raasaara will be earmarked for joint control. If failed such systems will be recognized as Bazalonian systems. All colonisation of systems require tri-party founding of colonies.

Should the Trial be successful the System of Coop will be integrated into the jointly sponsored and run operations of the other systems. If however it fails the System will be considered Amestrian territory however Bazalonia will be able to access and build facilities on and around 2 gas giants to be yet determined.

Establishment of the Central Planning Committee to oversee affairs of the jointly sponsored systems, laws in the jointly controlled colonies and procedures and policies for dealing with trade disputes to be implemented by a Trade Dispute Judiciary



Deployments:

A Bazalonian monitoring fleet shall be dispatched to the Umorphutwyo system.

Trade:

All systems under joint control will be places of free trade both between each other and with member nations systems.

The establishment of a Trade Dispute Judiciary to deal with conplaints or conflicts over trade within the free trade zone.

It is possible for Asartaru to become an equal partner in this agreement, provided it end its unilateral demands for tolls and territory.

The Darwinistic Commonality suggests that Amestria should perhaps review what exactly it means to have secret negotiations, which would include not opening up the contents of negotiations to the general public without the approval of other members of said negotiations.

Furthermore, the DCS would appreciate it if, in the future, Amestria would inform the appropriate DCS representatives when the goal of a trade and economic pact changes from benefitting those nations in Sector G to a tool of Amestrian foreign policy used as a bribe to unilaterally benefit Amestria without any forewarning.

Philanchez is privately informed that, as per the goals of the original talks as understood by the DCS, they were to be offered a joint opportunity in the endeavour, one that is not contingent upon any outside actions or demands. The DCS feels that Philanchez would make an excellent addition to any agreement and, upon ratification, the current policies of the Philanchezian government with respect ot the tolling situation might be revisited.

The Prime Ministerialship also wonders what the heck the Amestrians were thinking not only about the definition of the word "Secret" but also in the crude use of diplomacy including lack of any done in regards to the conflicting claims between the Sharinan Technocracy and themselves as well as using so-called secret documents in a method that has become known as chainsaw diplomacy (http://www.diplom.org/Zine/W1998A/Windsor/Chainsaw.html) to acheive there ends we have started to wonder if indeed the Amestrians can be trusted at all.

In addition the Bazalonian ambassador in New Shiron made a simple statement. "I don't recall agreeing to, or even discussing, making 'end its unilateral demands for tolls and territory.' a part of the requirements for the Astaru Alliance to enter this agreement. The only thing the Amestrians have done is threaten this entire agreement."

Secret IC:

but also in the crude use of diplomacy including lack of any done in regards to the conflicting claims between the Sharinan Technocracy and themselves

“Diplomacy would not have stopped them from taking Khanii,” answers the Amestrian Ambassador somewhat impatiently. “When things are taking place so far away and you are dealing with an expansionistic power, events on the ground are of far higher importance then any discussions in far away New Shiron. If the Sharinans had taken Khanii they would have never agreed to leave and they would have been all the more closer to the heart of the Alurza Sector.”


Public IC:

The Prime Ministerialship also wonders what the heck the Amestrians were thinking not only about the definition of the word "Secret"

The Darwinistic Commonality suggests that Amestria should perhaps review what exactly it means to have secret negotiations, which would include not opening up the contents of negotiations to the general public without the approval of other members of said negotiations.

The Amestrian Ambassador privately apologizes for making the Draft public, but while doing so points out that no harm was done.

"Amestria believes at this stage it is better that the tripartite's intentions and plans have been made clear to all the other galactic powers."

Furthermore, the DCS would appreciate it if, in the future, Amestria would inform the appropriate DCS representatives when the goal of a trade and economic pact changes from benefitting those nations in Sector G to a tool of Amestrian foreign policy used as a bribe to unilaterally benefit Amestria without any forewarning.

Philanchez is privately informed that, as per the goals of the original talks as understood by the DCS, they were to be offered a joint opportunity in the endeavour, one that is not contingent upon any outside actions or demands. The DCS feels that Philanchez would make an excellent addition to any agreement and, upon ratification, the current policies of the Philanchezian government with respect ot the tolling situation might be revisited.

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In addition the Bazalonian ambassador in New Shiron made a simple statement. "I don't recall agreeing to, or even discussing, making 'end its unilateral demands for tolls and territory.' a part of the requirements for the Astaru Alliance to enter this agreement. The only thing the Amestrians have done is threaten this entire agreement."

In answer to this the Amestrian Ambassador says "Amestria will not join in an agreement with the Philanchezian government until it ceases its outrageous demands. We will not leave them the arbiters of our rights. The Republic will also not hand over the Feeble system to Asartaru as the other has unilaterally demanded, but is willing to negotiate joint colonization."

The Sharina Technocracy releases this statement.

"Sharina has claimed the Khanii system, and we consider it rightfully Sharinian territory. We have repeatedly made it clear that we do not wish to expand any deeper into the Alzura sector beyond the Khanii system. We are not the aggressors here, as we were settling uninhabited worlds. However, the nation of Amestria has publically declared that a state of war would exist once Sharina enters the G sector. In addition, Amestria staked a claim upon Khanii after the public declaration regarding Sharinan entry into the G sector.

Accordingly, Sharina is considering military force to liberate the Khanii system as Amestria is an unlawful invader of sovereign Sharinan territory. Amestria is doing the exact thing it had declared itself aganist Sharina, which is invasion.

The nation of Amestria has proved that it is untrustworthy in light of its treatment of its neighbor Philanchez. Once Philanchez gave an agreement to Amestria for right of passage, Amestria refused to honor its end of the agreement such as payments. Not only this, but Amestria has made its secret deals public, and Amestria's continued mistreatment and rejection of Philanchez is evident for all to see. Due to these issues, Sharina has no faith that Amestria will honor the DMZ treaty, in addition to Amestria's other recent trangressions."

The Amestrian Republic point out it has not declared war upon the Sharina Technocracy and that no agreement was reached with Philanchez, talks are in fact still ongoing.

There was never any deal reached concerning permanent Amestrian passage. If there had been the Republic would have honored it.

In addition Amestria points out that Sharina has no legitimate claim to the Khanii System.

Amestria has claimed that System, Amestria reached that System first, Amestrians have settled that System, and the Amestrian fleet is protecting that System. Sharinan claims have no merit. The Amestrian Republic is willing to recognize Sharinan claims to Weybum, Umorphutwyo, and Waboni provided Sharina drop all claims to Shaanii, Khanii, and Daazu.

The Sharina Technocracy releases this statement.

"Sharina has claimed the Khanii system, and we consider it rightfully Sharinian territory. We have repeatedly made it clear that we do not wish to expand any deeper into the Alzura sector beyond the Khanii system. We are not the aggressors here, as we were settling uninhabited worlds. However, the nation of Amestria has publically declared that a state of war would exist once Sharina enters the G sector. In addition, Amestria staked a claim upon Khanii after the public declaration regarding Sharinan entry into the G sector.

Accordingly, Sharina is considering military force to liberate the Khanii system as Amestria is an unlawful invader of sovereign Sharinan territory. Amestria is doing the exact thing it had declared itself aganist Sharina, which is invasion.

The nation of Amestria has proved that it is untrustworthy in light of its treatment of its neighbor Philanchez. Once Philanchez gave an agreement to Amestria for right of passage, Amestria refused to honor its end of the agreement such as payments. Not only this, but Amestria has made its secret deals public, and Amestria's continued mistreatment and rejection of Philanchez is evident for all to see. Due to these issues, Sharina has no faith that Amestria will honor the DMZ treaty, in addition to Amestria's other recent trangressions."

The Prime Ministerialship of Bazalonia is concerned over the possible escalation and calls are made for Tri-partate talks involving the Sharina Technocracy the Amestrian Republic as well as the Prime Ministerialship itself.

"It is not too late to stop this from devolving into a war, should both parties be willing to come to the table and attempt to find a compromise. Should any party break any such agreement that may reached, or make an attack against each other before coming to the diplomatic table then a Bazalonian declaration of war is very likely against the offending party."

Bazalonia has announced a deal with Amestria to allow the Amestrian Republic to perform standard yearly maintaince of their ships in Bazalonian ports. The total worth of this deal is said to be 60 Billion dollars worth to the Bazalonian economy which is already rocketing along.

The Prime Ministerialship of Bazalonia is concerned over the possible escalation and calls are made for Tri-partate talks involving the Sharina Technocracy the Amestrian Republic as well as the Prime Ministerialship itself.

"It is not too late to stop this from devolving into a war, should both parties be willing to come to the table and attempt to find a compromise. Should any party break any such agreement that may reached, or make an attack against each other before coming to the diplomatic table then a Bazalonian declaration of war is very likely against the offending party."

The Sharina Technocracy responds to the Prime Ministeralship of Bazalonia.

"Sharina has already pledged not to expand any further into the Alzuran star cluster beyond Khanii. We fear a compromise will be unlikely with Amestria, given the way that nation refuses to compromise with Philanchez. Not only that, but Sharina has little to no faith that Amestria will honor any agreements reached at the diplomatic table given Amestria's recent actions.

Sharina is not the one who proclaimed a declaration of war for the whole galaxy to hear. In addition, Sharina has a neighbor that is significantly smaller than Sharina in terms of economy and military strength yet we are treating our neighbor as an equal regardless, something Amestria has yet to do with Philanchez. Amestria has also apparently engaged in chainsaw diplomacy, which diminishes its trustworthiness even further."

The Amestrian Republic once again through its Embassy on New Shiron states it has not declared war on Sharina, nor does it have any intention of doing so provided Sharina refrain from hostile actions against the Amestrian Republic.

The Amestrian Republic once again through its Embassy on New Shiron states it has not declared war on Sharina, nor does it have any intention of doing so provided Sharina refrain from hostile actions against the Amestrian Republic.

The Sharina Technocracy easily counters the Amestrian response.

"The Amestrian Republic has already stated on public record that if Sharina sets foot within Sector G, it would be treated as an act of war. No diplomacy was attempted by the Republic at that time to compromise or settle claims disputes. Instead, Amestria threatened war, which is counterproductive to the whole diplomatic process.*

Sharina also points out that Amestria also made it clear on public record that it never claimed any of the systems it purportedly claims. A copy of the original message can be found within this transmission.

"The Amestrian Republic announces its intent to build outposts in the Feeble, Coop, Khanii, Weybum, and Umorphutwyo Systems. The Amestrian Republic however makes clear it is not claiming those systems. The Republic also makes clear that it rejects all other claims to those systems."**

Basically, Amestria does not claim Khanii, Weybum, and Umorphutwyo. Sharina has not renounced its claims upon the Khanii system, therefore Khanii has been claimed by Sharina with no official Amestrian claim upon the system."

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* = Evidence in this post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12300546&postcount=40

** = Evidence in this post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12302417&postcount=57

The Snu Ambassadors to Amestria and Sharina urges them to sit down to talks instead of throwing stones.

Basically, Amestria does not claim Khanii, Weybum, and Umorphutwyo. Sharina has not renounced its claims upon the Khanii system, therefore Khanii has been claimed by Sharina with no official Amestrian claim upon the system."[/I]

The Amestrian Ambassador on New Shiron responds. "The Amestrian Republic stated it rejected the Sharinan claims and announced its own claim after it had colonized the Khanii System (along with Feeble, Coop is presently being negotiated with Bazalonia), although the Republic probably should have been more clear. For the record, the Amestrian Republic has claimed the Khanii System, has 10,000 settlers there along with 25,000 troops, is over 60 days closer to the System, and there is no dispute that the Amestrian Fleet arrived there first. It does not matter in the slightest when a claim was announced, just because you claim it first does not mean it is automatically yours. We again request that Sharina agree to talks with our Government and Bazalonia."

The Amestrian Ambassador also states: "Amestria and Bazalonia have both tried to establish a dialogue with Sharina, but it has ignored our overtures and dismissed Bazalonia's. Sharina appears unwilling to actually engage in serious discussion and seems content merely to threaten war over a system that is economically worthless to it. Why is Sharina claiming Khanii? Why does it feel its claims carry more weight then Amestria’s, which is closer, reached the system first, and has colonies there? Presently no one knows because Sharina has been unwilling to meet us in diplomatic talks, state its case, and defend its position with legitimate well reasoned arguments. The Amestrian Republic hopes it will change its mind."

The Amestrian Ambassador on New Shiron responds. "The Amestrian Republic stated it rejected the Sharinan claims and announced its own claim after it had colonized the Khanii System (along with Feeble, Coop is presently being negotiated with Bazalonia), although the Republic probably should have been more clear. For the record, the Amestrian Republic has claimed the Khanii System, has 10,000 settlers there along with 25,000 troops, is over 60 days closer to the System, and there is no dispute that the Amestrian Fleet arrived there first. It does not matter in the slightest when a claim was announced, just because you claim it first does not mean it is automatically yours. We again request that Sharina agree to talks with our Government and Bazalonia."

The Amestrian Ambassador also states: "Amestria and Bazalonia have both tried to establish a dialogue with Sharina, but it has ignored our overtures and dismissed Bazalonia's. Sharina appears unwilling to actually engage in serious discussion and seems content merely to threaten war over a system that is economically worthless to it. Why is Sharina claiming Khanii? Why does it feel its claims carry more weight then Amestria’s, which is closer, reached the system first, and has colonies there? Presently no one knows because Sharina has been unwilling to meet us in diplomatic talks, state its case, and defend its position with legitimate well reasoned arguments. The Amestrian Republic hopes it will change its mind."

Sharinan diplomats return yet another message.

"We have already been engaged in ongoing dialogue with the Prime Ministeralship of Bazalonia regarding conflicting claims.

Khanii is even more economically worthless to the Amestrian Republic than to Sharina. According to reports, the Amestrian Republic has yet to fully develop its home system, yet it is already creating unprofitable colonies? Conversely, Sharina has fully developed its home system, and can afford to sustain a Khanii colony until Waboni is more developed. The Amestrian economy can ill afford to sustain distant colonies with the economy yet to be fully developed in its home system and a budget several orders of magnitude smaller than Sharina's.

There is another major point of contention. Philanchez has claimed the Feeble system and despite this, the Amestrian Republic set about colonizing the Feeble system in an aggressive rejection of Philanchez's claim. This is yet another example of Amestrian mistreatment of Philanchez, which further casts more doubt upon the Amestrian character."

The Amestrian Embassy on New Shiron responds.

"Khanii is even more economically worthless to the Amestrian Republic than to Sharina. According to reports, the Amestrian Republic has yet to fully develop its home system, yet it is already creating unprofitable colonies? Conversely, Sharina has fully developed its home system, and can afford to sustain a Khanii colony until Waboni is more developed. The Amestrian economy can ill afford to sustain distant colonies with the economy yet to be fully developed in its home system and a budget several orders of magnitude smaller than Sharina's."

"Amestrian interest in Khanii is more strategic then economic, and in any case Amestria intends to fully develop Khanii, but at its own pace. Khanii is in any event is far closer to Amestria, a mere 100 days away. For Sharina it is over 160 days away. Khanii is thus has more potential inherent profit for Amestria then it ever would for Sharina. There is also the matter of Amestria having reached and colonized the system first. Of course Sharina has rejected discussing these issues during a conference or seeking mediation from third parties."

"There is another major point of contention. Philanchez has claimed the Feeble system and the Amestrian Republic has rejected Philanchez's claim and set about colonizing the Feeble system. This is yet another example of Amestrian mistreatment of Philanchez, which further casts more doubt upon the Amestrian character."[/I]

"The negotiations between Amestria and Philanchez have nothing what-so-ever to do with the current matter at hand, talks are still ongoing and Amestria has yet to hear back from Philanchez concerning its latest offer (which included joint colonization of the Feeble System, something they rejected out of hand even though Amestria has three outposts there)."

OOC: Philanchez has been inactive.

IC: "Since negotiations have begun not one Amestrian warship has crossed into Raymore space, not ONE. Amestria never violated any agreement with Philanchez, Philanchez made an offer and Amestria rejected that offer and negotiations continue."

The Amestrian Ambassador finishes, stating: "No matter, if it is Amestrian control of Khanii that Sharina finds unacceptable, the Amestrian Republic is perfectly willing to cede control of Khanii to Bazalonia, a polity Sharina would surely find unobjectionable."

By its Embassy on New Shiron the Amestrian Republic publicly asks Bazalonia if it would be willing to assume Amestria's claim to Khanii and subsequently take control of that system, “in the interest of peace.”

The Amestrian Embassy on New Shiron responds.

"Amestrian interest in Khanii is more strategic then economic, and in any case Amestria intends to fully develop Khanii, but at its own pace. Khanii is in any event is far closer to Amestria, a mere 100 days away. For Sharina it is over 160 days away. Khanii is thus has more potential inherent profit for Amestria then it ever would for Sharina. There is also the matter of Amestria having reached and colonized the system first. Of course Sharina has rejected discussing these issues during a conference or seeking mediation from third parties."

Sharina responds.

"According to economists, operating a colony at Khanii would only generate 10% of the income that would normally be generated back at Ekuur, which means a net loss for the Amestrian Republic that will create a drain on the small Amestrian economy for several decades. On the other hand, economists predict that Sharina will only experience a net loss for ten years at Khanii before Khanii becomes profitable due to the development of Waboni. I am sure Amestrian investors, businesses, and taxpayers would be happy to hear that their money will be chewed up in a net loss for a full generation or two.

As for diplomacy, we repeat, we have been engaged in diplomacy with the Prime Ministeralship of Bazalonia. As for Amestrian - Sharinan diplomacy, we are conducting it right now, despite Sharinan misgivings in the matter."

The Amestrian Ambassador finishes, stating: "No matter, if it is Amestrian control of Khanii that Sharina finds unacceptable, the Amestrian Republic is perfectly willing to cede control of Khanii to Bazalonia, a polity Sharina would surely find unobjectionable."

"We shall take that matter under consideration."

The Amestrian proposal certainly sits well with the Bazalonians however they wait for word from Sharina before any action or official response is done by the Bazalonians

War breaks out in the Alzurian Main as fleets from Sharina and Amestria clash at Khanii