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T-17A Urban Combat Light Tank Refrence Post!

Czechalrus
07-02-2007, 07:00
T-17B (Tank Model 17 Version B)
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T-17B of the 87th Mechanized Amrour Division.

Specifications

Weight: 10.6 Tonnes

Length: 4.97 Meters

Width: 2.03 Meters

Height: 1.87 Meters

Crew: 2 (Driver, Gunner)

Place of origin: The Republic of Czechalrus

Production Year: 2017

Current Operators: The Republic of Czechalrus, The Republic of Nuevo Italia, The Holy Democracy of The Norlands

Conflicts Involved: None

Armor

Type: Layered Steel, Internal Kevlar Panels

Thickness: Classified

Armament

Primary: AGS-17 30mm Automatic Grenade Launcher

Secondary: 9M133 Kornet, and 3 Smoke Grenade Launchers

Ammunition Stowage

Primary: 180 VOG-17M 30mm Grenades, 90 VOG-30 30mm Grenades

Secondary: 3 9M133 Rockets (1 Tube) 3 White Smoke Grenades

Powerplant

Engine: Nechnav TC18 V8 Water cooled Gas Engine (457 KW)

Suspension: Torsion Bar

Range: 478 km

Speed: 67 mph(Road), 16 mph (Swimming)

Acceleration: 0-60 in 5.1 Seconds

Price: $250,000
The World Soviet Party
07-02-2007, 14:40
No offense, but an IFV could do the same job, with more guns. Besides, Tankettes have proved unuseful over and over again through the history of tankfare.
The Phoenix Milita
07-02-2007, 14:43
but it sooo cute
ChevyRocks
07-02-2007, 15:17
0-60 mph in 2.1 seconds? Um, not a chance.
Tarlag
07-02-2007, 15:31
The A-17 is to small to be of any real value on the battlefield. The main gun is far to light to be of any real value vs. any type of modern combat vehicle.
As World Soviet Party stated an IFV could do the same job better and it could do more jobs then the A-17.
I could see improving the design buy giving it a new turret with a 25mm gun. This would give you some anti-armor capabilities with out adding much weight. In a recon. role this new design might work.
I like you simple but effective A-7A but this one needs some retooling.
Crookfur
07-02-2007, 20:38
OOC:
Nothing totally wrong with such a design in theory but it does seem drastically under armed compared to the vaguely similar CVR(t). While i am not sayinging copy them directly (i suspect this design has heavier armour) this design would IMHO benefit from a heavier maing gun, say a 23mm gun (as on the BMP-23) or a 30mm 2A72 gun or similar. If you were goign down the western road in terms of guns i would suggest looking at the 40mm CTA gun ssytem but i do fully respect the more "russian" flavour to your designs so perhaps if a cannon is right out you could add an additional AGS-30 to the load out as it seems flavour of the month with the russians for "urban" fighting ( as seen on the BMP-T).
Franberry
07-02-2007, 21:39
Might I direct you gents to this

http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3503
Czechalrus
08-02-2007, 02:12
No offense, but an IFV could do the same job, with more guns. Besides, Tankettes have proved unuseful over and over again through the history of tankfare.

No offense taken, Tankettes are rather unuseful but I decided to outfit them with Kornets purchased from you to give it tank hunting capabilities so it can "Shoot and Scoot".

The A-17 is to small to be of any real value on the battlefield. The main gun is far to light to be of any real value vs. any type of modern combat vehicle.
As World Soviet Party stated an IFV could do the same job better and it could do more jobs then the A-17.
I could see improving the design buy giving it a new turret with a 25mm gun. This would give you some anti-armor capabilities with out adding much weight. In a recon. role this new design might work.
I like you simple but effective A-7A but this one needs some retooling.

As you can see I took your advice and fitted it with better weaponry and gave it Anti-Tank Capabilities.

OOC:
Nothing totally wrong with such a design in theory but it does seem drastically under armed compared to the vaguely similar CVR(t). While i am not sayinging copy them directly (i suspect this design has heavier armour) this design would IMHO benefit from a heavier maing gun, say a 23mm gun (as on the BMP-23) or a 30mm 2A72 gun or similar. If you were goign down the western road in terms of guns i would suggest looking at the 40mm CTA gun ssytem but i do fully respect the more "russian" flavour to your designs so perhaps if a cannon is right out you could add an additional AGS-30 to the load out as it seems flavour of the month with the russians for "urban" fighting ( as seen on the BMP-T).

I decided to add a Kornet and replace the DShk with a AGS-17 to up its fire-power. Thanks for the help.