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AD-142 “Yastreb” Assault Rifle

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Caliber: 7.62x39 mm RF
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 740 mm
Barrel length: 480 mm
Weight: 2.9 kg empty, 3.34 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 650 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 790 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 2,507.34 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 550 USD (Yastreb)



Introduction:

Minding the research made in the Voronej Institute of Modern Warfare, Dragunov Firearms Holding the main supplier of various firearms to the Pushkan armed forces for the past 100 years has decided to develop a new assault rifle that would be appropriate to the modern combat situations most of which the VIMW claims are urban. What DFH needed was a rifle that would focus on four points, compact size, accuracy, light weight and armor penetration. After half a decade in development the project was successful and AD-142 Assault Rifle has recently passed Russian Federation trials and is soon to be inducted into the military as a replacement for the AD-113 assault rifle currently in service with the RF armed forces.

Technical overview:

AD-142 is a bullpup configuration assault rifle with most of the mechanical parts to the rear of the gun thus making the front lighter while allowing the soldier carrying the rifle to place the weight of it on his shoulder making the gun much more stable then firing and vastly decreasing aiming time. The exterior parts of the gun are all made using polymer materials to reduce the weight of the rifle and increase its mobility.

The firing mechanism is gas operated, rotating bolt however a moving barrel mechanism has been installed to greatly reduce the recoil from the 7.62 mm round. The receiver is allowed to recoil against a titanium spring inside the polymer housing. Titanium was used to reduce the need for spring maintenance thus greatly decreasing the frequency of maintenance for the gun making it one of the least needy rifles in the world today. Just like its predecessor AD-142 has 3 firing modes, semi-automatic, double-round and full automatic. While semi-automatic and full auto come standard with all modern assault rifles the double-round mode allows the gun to fire a burst of 2 bullets per each trigger pull, the bullets are fired at an amazingly high rate (1800 rounds per minute) and a well trained soldier could use this to a great advantage making the two rounds hit the same spot thus causing more damage to a target protected by armor or even a concrete wall or a target inside a lightly armored vehicle. In the full automatic mode the gun fires the first two rounds at the maximum 1800 rounds per minute rate and fires the rest of the ammo at a much lower rate of fire in order to ensure that the distribution of ammo fired can be controlled.

The standard configuration OP-29 “Glaz Orla” (Eagle’s Eye, rus.) optical sight has a maximum magnification mode of 4-16x allowing the soldier to spot targets from over 1 km away and hit them in semi-automatic mode at 650 m away. Such accuracy is achieved by using the improvements made in the field of Cordite propellants as well as the more stabilized, aerodynamic design of the bullet itself.

The bullet is a standard issue RF 7.62 mm AP round. The bullet itself is made with steel alloyed with wolfram (tungsten) greatly increasing the metal's toughness. During the testing the bullet was able to penetrate through 8 mm titanium plate plus 20 layers of Kevlar at at a 100 meters. The bullet is made with an air gap inside the front of the bullet. This technique shifts the center of gravity towards the rear, causing the bullet to destabilize nearly 17 cm earlier in tissue. This causes a pair of large stretch cavities at a depth likely to cause effective wound trauma, adding lethality to this unstoppable round. In order to maintain the penetrating capability of the round a wolfram cap is placed in the front of the bullet.

Issued as standard for Russian Federation armed forces is a 45 round helical-feed magazine chosen over conventional ones for its compact size.

AD-142 can be modified with an PG-7 under barrel grenade launcher, a flashlight, and a laser sight.

Variations:

AD-142 “Yastreb” (Hawk, rus.)- Standard issue described above.


AD-142M “Drakon” (Dragon, rus.) – A modified version

Caliber: 7.62x39 mm RF
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 740 mm
Barrel length: 480 mm
Weight: 2.9 kg empty, 3.34 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 650 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 790 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 2,507.34 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 1270 USD (Drakon, for sale in limited numbers only)

Description:

An electronics suit on the gun is added. The already mentioned OP-29 “Glaz Orla” is replaced by OP-42 “Glaz Drakona” (Dragon’s Eye, rus.) a 4-25x 10 mm scope that is a component of “Groza” (Thunder, rus.) system that also features a powerful “Almaz-IVM” processor that is placed on top of the gun and in the middle of it and is protected by a polymer casing like the rest of the rifle as well as TP-4 “Shjar” (Heat, rus.) thermal imager, and PNV-6 “Glaz Lva” (Lion’s Eye, rus.) night vision sight. All of them work together as a single unit with a button on the side of “Groza” that can be used to switch between different modes. “Groza” is IL capable thus it can work together with BDU-1 and 2 combat protection suites used by Russian Federation Spetsnaz. "Groza" system gives a soldier capabilities that would make him superior to his opponent in combat. The system utilizes a laser range finder that allows the soldier to know exactly how far away the target is, as well as if the target is friendly or non-friendly which this data can be transfered to BDU-1/2 IL (information link) that will enable the information to be shared with all other friendly forces on the ground. The IL link is two-fold meaning that target information sent over the IL will display on the scope as well as the HUD. Working together with UAV wall-penetrating radar surveillance the soldier will be able to kill targets literally through concrete walls as they are disillusioned into thinking that they are behind safe cove. In addition to the range finder and threat designator "Groza" allows the soldier to control the rate of fire of his weapon enabling him to select how many rounds per second he would want fired and so on.

AD-142NK “Bes” (Demon, rus.) - standard, non-bullpup configuration variant

Caliber: 5.45x39 mm RF
Action:Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 860 mm (with extended stock)
Barrel length: 480 mm
Weight: 3.1 kg empty, 3.48 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 580 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 900 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 1760 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 490 USD

Description:

The non bull-pup modification of AD-142 Yastreb, foldable stock added, trigger moved to he rear, magazine moved to the front, the 7.62x39 mm RF replaced by 5.45x39 mm RF full-metal jacket, boat-tail round tipped with a wolfram cap. The rifle uses standard 4-16x10 mm OP-29 scope

AD-142SV “Voron” (Raven, rus.) – Accurized version

Caliber: 7.62x54R mm RF
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 820 mm
Barrel length: 560 mm
Weight: 2.9 kg empty, 3.34 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 16/32/45 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 850 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round
Muzzle Velocity: 830 m/s
Muzzle energy: 3,960 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 970 USD

Description:

This is a accurized variation of AD-142 Yastreb modified for long-range purposes. The rifle in this modification only operates in two modes, full automatic and double-round burst. A folding bi-pod is attached to the front of barrel in order to increase comfort in prone or sitting position. The optics have been replaced by OP-42 "Glaz Drakona" with 4-25x magnification.

AD-142K "Grach" (Rook bird, rus.)- shortened, CQB carbine version

Caliber: 5.45x39 mm RF
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 691 mm
Barrel length: 381 mm
Weight: 2.6 kg empty, 2.94 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 500 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 850 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 1404.5 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 550 USD (Grach)

Description:

Barrel shortened, the round changed to 5.45x39mm RF instead of 7.62x39 mm RF, bull-pup configuration untouched. This weapon was designed to be perfect for the close quarters missions.

AD-142SK "Dyatel" (Woodpecker, rus.)- special carbine, silenced

Caliber: 9x39 mm SN
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 708 mm
Barrel length: 381 mm
Weight: 2.8 kg empty, 3.1 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 390 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 300 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 780 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 650 USD (Dyatel)

Description:

Flash suppressor added, the round changed to 7.62 SN, sub-sonic munition. This rifle is designed for the missions there the enemy is close and silence is the key factor in winning the battle.

AD-142E1 Eksport-I (Export-I, rus) - 7.62x51 mm round compatible version of Yastreb

Caliber: 7.62x51 mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 740 mm
Barrel length: 480 mm
Weight: 3.2 kg empty, 3.64 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 660 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 838 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 3275 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 550 USD

Description:

The original Yastreb modified to field the 7.62x51 mm NATO round, the rifle is not being used by Russian Federation armed forces and is only intended for sale to foreign countries.

AD-142E2 Eksport-II (Export-II, rus.) - 5.56x51 mm round compatible version of Yastreb

Caliber: 5.56x51 mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 740 mm
Barrel length: 480 mm
Weight: 2.6 kg empty, 3.04 kg with loaded 32 rounds magazine
Magazine capacity: 32/45/60 rounds (depending on magazine)
Effective Range: 580 m
Rate of fire: 680-1800 rounds per minute
Modes: semi-automatic, double-round, full-automatic
Muzzle Velocity: 930 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 1830 J (x2 in double-round mode)
Price: 550 USD


Description:

The original Yastreb modified to field the 5.56x51 mm NATO round, the rifle is not being used by Russian Federation armed forces and the is only intended for sale to foreign countries.

AD-143SN “Smert” (Death, rus.) – classified, not for sale, for Russian Federation Spetsnaz use only.


edit: wolfram cap added because of a suggestion made by The People's Socialist Republic of Russkya
edit: Thanks to Layarteb for giving me vital advice

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We are looking to replace The Vetakan Defence Force Diplomatic and Political Guard Units main Assualt Rifles. These Units protect political buildings as well as Embassies of forigen nations and Forigen Nations within Vetaka Before we consider a purchase might we inquire a price? For a total of 7,500 rifles?

For your order the price shall be 310 USD per unit making it a total of 2325000 USD. We have 7500 rifles ready for shipping and awaiting the wire transfer of your funds to our bank accounts.

Signed,

Leonid Lopatov,
Head of Military Arms Export Commission

Signed,

Minister of Defense Afanasie Krilov

That is acceptable. Wiring Funds Now.

Thank You

OOC: Consider the rifles shipped then, pleasure doing business with you.

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The Republic of Koryan would like to place an order for 520,000 AD-142m Drakons, which we estimate to cost approximately $660.4 million

Your rifles will be shipped promptly after you wire the funds to our account. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Leonid Lopatov,
Head of Military Arms Export Commission

OOC: Production rights for Yastreb will cost you 70 million dollars and naturally you can't sell the rifles you produce to a third party.

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How do you plan on getting a clear sight picture from a 40 power rifle scope?

An objective lense diameter of 30 mm is about the widest I'd expect, any bigging and your pretty much mounting a spotting scope with crosshairs...

In which case you better have a tripod/bench rest/bipod handy...

A selective power 4-10x20 optic would be more than sufficient for all except long range varmiting from 2 Km away.

In which case you piull out a .50 cal BMG anti-material rifle and an 8-20x50 power scope and start plinking the prarie dogs out to 5 km...

You don't need the whole target's face to fill the scope...
So long as you can tell the differance between a friendly soldier and enemy soldiers, that is plenty enough... Keep the sniping impersonal and you'll see less soldiers visiting the head shrink's office...

How do you plan on getting a clear sight picture from a 40 power rifle scope?

An objective lense diameter of 30 mm is about the widest I'd expect, any bigging and your pretty much mounting a spotting scope with crosshairs...

In which case you better have a tripod/bench rest/bipod handy...

A selective power 4-10x20 optic would be more than sufficient for all except long rang varmiting from 2 Km away.

Is it so hard to imagine that in next 8 years (2015 being the cut-off date for MT that Im going with) they will be able to make optics like this more compact? I mean I have an idea in mind, the on-board rifle computer takes the picture and makes it more clear, computers today can do that. Either way I am sure you "experts" just have to jump at any shadow of a mistake but a compact 40x magnification scope by 2015 is not that much of a stretch.

Is it so hard to imagine that in next 8 years (2015 being the cut-off date for MT that Im going with) they will be able to make optics like this more compact? I mean I have an idea in mind, the on-board rifle computer takes the picture and makes it more clear, computers today can do that. Either way I am sure you "experts" just have to jump at any shadow of a mistake but a compact 40x magnification scope by 2015 is not that much of a stretch.

True, you might get the picture to stay crisp and clear, but those crosshairs will jump and jink regardless of this.

Since you simply cannot detach the crosshairs* from the exact point of aim for the rifle otherwise it is useless for aiming.

*Unless the crosshairs are electronicly predicted and prsented an a super-imposed reflex sight, in which case you have the most user friendly scope in the world, provided the batteries still work...***

I still consider such high magification to the point you can tell what brand of gum he's chewing, and that one of his jacket buttons are undone, plus he has mud on his left boot but not his right, is not a good thing... As at that point your perfect sniper starts to realize he's abou to kill a person completely oblivious to his presence.

***Pretty much then you've got the 'magic sight' that so often appears in video game shooters to lessen the 'learning curve' for the players.

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I'm no expert, I was just wondering how you planned to keep the gun and scope steady enough to use that 40x scope correctly... As gyro stabalizing the scope would also mean stabalizing the barrel, and a gun stabalizer isn't that simple nor light...
(Plus needlessly redundant)

I just assumed you had the old non-stabalized and solidly mounted to the reciever type rifle sight used the world over. With the Barrel likewise, fixed to the reciever but left as 'free floating' as possable to prevent your trembling hands from screwing up your nearly perfect aim.

But the blood pumping through your shoulder and your lungs acting upon your posture have something to say about that...

But 'artillery grade' tripods solve that...

True, you might get the picture to stay crisp and clear, but those crosshairs will jump and jink regardless of this.

Since you simply cannot detach the crosshairs* from the exact point of aim for the rifle otherwise it is useless for aiming.

*Unless the crosshairs are electronicly predicted and prsented an a super-imposed reflex sight, in which case you have the most user friendly scope in the world, provided the batteries still work...***

I still consider such high magification to the point you can tell what brand of gum he's chewing, and that one of his jacket buttons are undone, plus he has mud on his left boot but not his right, is not a good thing... As at that point your perfect sniper starts to realize he's abou to kill a person completely oblivious to his presence.

***Pretty much then you've got the 'magic sight' that so often appears in video game shooters to lessen the 'learning curve' for the players.

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I'm no expert, I was just wondering how you planned to keep the gun and scope steady enough to use that 40x scope correctly... As gyro stabalizing the scope would also mean stabalizing the barrel, and a gun stabalizer isn't that simple nor light...
(Plus needlessly redundant)

I just assumed you had the old non-stabalized and solidly mounted to the reciever type rifle sight used the world over. With the Barrel likewise, fixed to the reciever but left as 'free floating' as possable to prevent your trembling hands from screwing up your nearly perfect aim.

But the blood pumping through your shoulder and your lungs acting upon your posture have something to say about that...

But 'artillery grade' tripods solve that...

Sorry if I came off a little offensive, Doomingsland approached me about the same thing a bit earlier today and he was not as pleasant about it as you. I guess x40 is a bit of an overkill, I'll switch to 16x, from the pictures of the scopes I've seen with that magnification they seem to be rather compact. I will keep the 40 for the Drakon and Smert variation both of which utilize a CPU, for the basic Yastreb configuration I will put a 16x. Thanks for your criticism.

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I consulted a friend who knew a considerable amount more than I do on shooting with telescopic sights on the issue of ultra-high power scopes.

In summary, he flatly stated:

>that target aquisition time would be pitifully slow.
-Not a good thing when those targets are shooting back...

>Sight picture would be extremely small (tunnel vision)

>A non-stabalized scope will vibrate simply by breathing on it, and stabalizing both the scope and barrel has yet to be done on an infantry weapon.

I later noted it was desired to fit such a scope upon an 'assualt rifle' which by nature, is only designed to attack targets at roughly less than 500 meters, more around 50 meters, were any form of sights becomes of little value.

It was later decided to focus on the designated marksman grade firearm concept under the guise of an 'assault rifle'.

So I ask for you to consider the following compromise:
Riflescope:
-Non-stabalized, rigidly mounted variable power 4-10x30 scope, free floating barrel, and optional bipod.
-A digitally stabalized 40x spotting scope would be packaged with the gun, and could be picanty railed alongside the gun.

I consulted a friend who knew a considerable amount more than I do on shooting with telescopic sights on the issue of ultra-high power scopes.

In summary, he flatly stated:

>that target aquisition time would be pitifully slow.
-Not a good thing when those targets are shooting back...

>Sight picture would be extremely small (tunnel vision)

>A non-stabalized scope will vibrate simply by breathing on it, and stabalizing both the scope and barrel has yet to be done on an infantry weapon.

I later noted it was desired to fit such a scope upon an 'assualt rifle' which by nature, is only designed to attack targets at roughly less than 500 meters, more around 50 meters, were any form of sights becomes of little value.

It was later decided to focus on the designated marksman grade firearm concept under the guise of an 'assault rifle'.

So I ask for you to consider the following compromise:
Riflescope:
-Non-stabalized, rigidly mounted variable power 4-10x30 scope, free floating barrel, and optional bipod.
-A digitally stabalized 40x spotting scope would be packaged with the gun, and could be picanty railed alongside the gun.

I'll think about it but keep in mind that just because a scope has maximum 40x magnification doesn't mean that the soldier has to always look through the scope at 40x, the 40x same as 30x and even 20x modes are only for spotting far away targets, coming within firing range of them making sure they don't spot you and targeting them by adjusting the scope to a smaller resolution. Either way I pulled the maximum magnification for Yastreb to 4-16x and Drakon 4-25x.

I'll think about it but keep in mind that just because a scope has maximum 40x magnification doesn't mean that the soldier has to always look through the scope at 40x, the 40x same as 30x and even 20x modes are only for spotting far away targets, coming within firing range of them making sure they don't spot you and targeting them by adjusting the scope to a smaller resolution. Either way I pulled the maximum magnification for Yastreb to 4-16x and Drakon 4-25x.

That works to, but please, list the variance of the scope's magnification rather than just the max power it has. As Most of my replies were under the assumption you had a fixed power scope or planned on shooting targets while in 40x mode at a mere 1 km.

*Notices edit of Wolfram/tungsten cap, and edited optics*

Nice, well designed, the only thing that I found curius was the choice in optics.
I'm assuming the ultra-high power settings are to be used by scouting and recon units.

That works to, but please, list the variance of the scope's magnification rather than just the max power it has. As Most of my replies were under the assumption you had a fixed power scope or planned on shooting targets while in 40x mode at a mere 1 km.

*Notices edit of Wolfram/tungsten cap, and edited optics*

Nice, well designed, the only thing that I found curius was the choice in optics.
I'm assuming the ultra-high power settings are to be used by scouting and recon units.

I have edited scope stats with magnification range 4-16 for yastreb and 4-25 for drakon, that should do.

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edited with two more variations and muzzle energy figures

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Encrypted Communiqué

The Realm wishes, as a sign of our hopes of the return of the friendship that once existed between the Russian Federation and the Realm, to make a purchase of this rifle. We will, if permitted, purchase a total of five hundred thousand (500,000) units of the AD-142 "Yastreb" (baseline variant). We have calculated this cost to come to a total of two hundred and seventy-five million Universal Standard Dollars ($275,000,000), which will be wired upon confirmation of this order.

Additionally, we will purchase along with the weapons a grand total of two point five billion (2,500,000,000) 7.62x39mm RF rounds for the weapons. Assuming a price of seventy-five cents ($0.75) per round, we have calculated the price for the ammunition to come to a total of one point eight seven five billion Universal Standard Dollars ($1,875,000,000).

The combined price will be two point fifteen billion Universal Standard Dollars ($2,150,000,000), which will be wired upon confirmation of this order, should it be approved.

We await your reply.

[signed]
The Realm of Cotland

[OOC: Looks much better now Pushka. I like. Should have western ammo choices though. Bigger export market.]

OOC: Thx, yeah, I am planning to come out with 6.8x48 mm as a next step. 7.62x51 amd 5.45x51 are also big possibilities.

IC:

We are very pleased to see you take interest in our product. The said amount of rifles and ammunition shall be shipped to you over the span of the next year (fluid time so basically you can have them whenever). As a sign of friendship each rifle will come with a 40 round O-46 helical magazine free of charge. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Leonid Lopatov,
Head of Military Arms Export Commission

two new versions added, E1 and E2, 7.62x51 NATO and 5.56x51 NATO

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Manchurian Global is a large multinational private equity fund and government contractor that deals, significantly, with military contracting. As such, security officers of Manchurian Global are often thrust into the "pits of fire," so to speak. Adequate and capable protection is necessary for our contractors and security personnel. As such, we wish to purchase the following units of the AD-142 assault rifle for our security personnel.

AD-142 "Yastreb" [$550]: 25,000
AD-142SV "Voron" [$970]: 5,000
AD-142K "Grach" [$550]: 25,000
AD-142SK "Dyatel" [$650]: 5,000

Total: $35,600,000

We hope that our offer and sales request is approved and we look forward to use of these superior weapons.

John Patrick
CEO of Manchurian Global

Your order has been reviewed and approved by our board of directors. The said assault rifles will be delivered to you in full amount ordered in the six months (instantly with magic of fluid time) after your funds have been wired to our bank account. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

On behalf of Manchurian Global and its employees we thank Dragunov Firearms for their assistance with expediting this order. We hope to do future business with Dragunov Firearms again.

John Patrick
CEO Manchurian Global

The Imperial Republic of Hataria wishes to buy 100,000,000 AD-142E1 Eksport-I's.

An order of 100000000 AD-142E1s would come out to 55 000 000 000 USD, however given the extreme size of the order the Board of Directors has decided to give you a discount. With the discount the total price for the order would come out to 47 000 000 000 USD. We will begin shipping our product once the first half of the payment is wired, we will not require the second half until you have all the units that you have ordered. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

Would it be plausible for the AD-142 Yasterb to be re-chambered for a DU munition? Of course we understand this will cost a sumtious amount of money, but it would be a nice capabilty for our troops to have on the battlefield. If it is possible, we wish for the DU rounds to atleast be able to penetrate average APC armour.

Well, AD-143SN Smert uses DU rounds (but ICly you will never know that) so yeah it can be done...but eh Smert is a secret only to be used by my special forces so eh....I don't want to sell it.

Well, AD-143SN Smert uses DU rounds (but ICly you will never know that) so yeah it can be done...but eh Smert is a secret only to be used by my special forces so eh....I don't want to sell it.

{What if I ask really really nicely? And don't give anyone the secret? Lol, like I would, that'd be giving away an advantage? C'mon a pact? A treaty? A military contract from my nation to yours??}

Well massproducing DU rounds as standard rounds for your military is costly, there is always a chance of radiation leak (my special forces have combat suits that are NBC protected)...how about you just buy the standard configuration (or whatever caliber you want your DU round to be) and then just add radiation absorbent materials at your own factories (don't really have any idea how you're gonna do it and still keep the rifle easy to use) that would work.

Well massproducing DU rounds as standard rounds for your military is costly, there is always a chance of radiation leak (my special forces have combat suits that are NBC protected)...how about you just buy the standard configuration (or whatever caliber you want your DU round to be) and then just add radiation absorbent materials at your own factories (don't really have any idea how you're gonna do it and still keep the rifle easy to use) that would work.

{OOC: Well. My army is 100,000 which is less than 1% of what it could be. My nation's cities (or really city) is located withen a mountain, and it would be easy to block off a portion of that mountain for such purposes, or simply by the DU rounds or material and make them their. And since my army is 100,000 an easy-to-use rifle isn't really neccesary.}

Well massproducing DU rounds as standard rounds for your military is costly, there is always a chance of radiation leak (my special forces have combat suits that are NBC protected)...how about you just buy the standard configuration (or whatever caliber you want your DU round to be) and then just add radiation absorbent materials at your own factories (don't really have any idea how you're gonna do it and still keep the rifle easy to use) that would work.

What caliber would it take to make the DU round penetrate average APC armour?

Honestly no idea...best bet would be 7.62x54 mm since thats the most powerful round I offer, in the two burst mode it might be able to, depending on the armor but seriously I have no idea. Anyways, going to bed, good night.

We will purchase one hundred thousand AD-142SV variant assault rifles.

We have reviewed your order and it comes out to be 97000000 USD. We will start shipping the "Voron" assault rifles after the funds have been wired to our bank account.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

We have reviewed your order and it comes out to be 97000000 USD. We will start shipping the "Voron" assault rifles after the funds have been wired to our bank account.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

WIRED

For the purposes of comparative testing against the Экспериментальная Винтовка [Проект 07] I have been instructed to acquire a total of ten (10) rifles of the following models:
AD-142
AD-142M
AD-142K
AD-142SK
It is believed that these weapons will provide a illustrative cross-section of the capabilities of the more capable of the international bullpup-configuration assault weapons available today.

The appropriate funds have been designated and will be wired to the specified accounts upon the confirmation of the order.

Regards,
Viktor N. Ergeyev,
RMSMC Secondary Overseas Procurement Representative.

An order of 100000000 AD-142E1s would come out to 55 000 000 000 USD, however given the extreme size of the order the Board of Directors has decided to give you a discount. With the discount the total price for the order would come out to 47 000 000 000 USD. We will begin shipping our product once the first half of the payment is wired, we will not require the second half until you have all the units that you have ordered. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors


Money Wired.............($47,000,000,000 USD)

OOC: If you Put it into Hatarian Imperial Rutas, it would be 27 Billion Rutas.

To Russkaya

Your order is confirmed, weapons will be shipped once the transfer of funds is complete. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

Money Wired.............20,000,000,000 Rutas ($47,000,000,000 USD)

And rifles shipped, you assume it automatically.

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The USSY would like to offer you $100Bil to change the name to something that doesn't resemble AY-142.

The USSY would like to offer you $100Bil to change the name to something that doesn't resemble AY-142.

Whats AY-142? And I posted the write up for this gun 6 months ago.

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I posted mine two months before you posted yours, thus this is a coincidence. Im not changing anything though.

Meh, it was worth a shot. I am coming out with the AY-143 soon enough anyways.

Meh, it was worth a shot. I am coming out with the AY-143 soon enough anyways.

Already got AD-143SN Smert....I haven't posted the specs though on here since its uber secret and not for sale. Sorry.

The Eurasian Government orders 20,000 AD-142K "Grach" for its Police Departments(SWAT)

To Eurasia

Order is confirmed, we will begin shipping once the necessary funds have been wired.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

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As apart of our rebuilding program to CSN military and police forces have come to purchase several variants of this reliable weapon.


AD-142 “Yastreb” - 500,000

AD-142M “Drakon” – 200,000 (Or how ever much you can supply, if more go with that)

AD-142SV “Voron” – 15,000

AD-142K "Grach" - 23,000

AD-142SK "Dyatel" - 5,000

AD-142E1 Eksport-I - 30,000

Greal wishes to buy 2,000 AD-142 “Yastreb” Assault Rifles. We wish to offer 1 million USD for these rifles.

We have been contacted directly by the Russian Federation government and told to make this order our top priority. A restriction on the amount of Drakon modification rifles has been lifted for the purposes of this order and the Russian Federation has agreed to cover half of all the expenses associated with it. We will be shipping the first batch of rifles to you starting next month and should conclude shipping at the end of a 6 month period. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

Greal wishes to buy 2,000 AD-142 “Yastreb” Assault Rifles. We wish to offer 1 million USD for these rifles.

Your order is approved, we shall begin shipping once the funds are wired. Pleasure doing business with you.

Signed,

Andrei Korolev,
Dragunov Firearms Holding Board of Directors

OOC: I'm just going to sum up the orders that I have.

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OOC: Can't sell you AD-142M Drakon in those quantities, its for sale in limited quantities only unless otherwise specified. Plus I don't think your eh, clients, will find much use for a hightech gun that runs on batteries if they don't keep getting a fresh supply of batteries. I am ready to confirm all the rest of the order once you reply to this post. But hell, thats a lot of rifles, thats more rifles than there are your "clients". But whatever, its capitalism, have the money ready.

OOC: Can't sell you AD-142M Drakon in those quantities, its for sale in limited quantities only unless otherwise specified. Plus I don't think your eh, clients, will find much use for a hightech gun that runs on batteries if they don't keep getting a fresh supply of batteries. I am ready to confirm all the rest of the order once you reply to this post. But hell, thats a lot of rifles, thats more rifles than there are your "clients". But whatever, its capitalism, have the money ready.

OOC: What is the largest quantity of AD-142Ms that I can buy?

OOC: What is the largest quantity of AD-142Ms that I can buy?

OOC: A 1000 per customer unless otherwise specified (basically unless you're like Nero who Russian gov't is interested in arming and thus the company will get special benefits for fulfilling the order).

OOC: A 1000 per customer unless otherwise specified (basically unless you're like Nero who Russian gov't is interested in arming and thus the company will get special benefits for fulfilling the order).

OOC: Okay then I'll take the maximum amount per customer. You can exclude it from the last list, as that is like 500 customers or whatever the number is, basically arms companies and shops, etc. Money is naturally wired from the respective businesses.

To: Layartreb

All orders approved....enjoy.