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I have an idea for a new type of "Earth" for II. Basically an Earth which begins in the year 1897, with all the nations and technologies availible then, and proceed as long as there are people who wish to RP.


Now, I have noticed that one specific complaint which people have had about other Earths is that too many people claim too much land. Well I aim to change that. You may claim one nation, and possibly one smaller one (Example Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, San Marino, etc).


Factbooks should be created, and we'll use Real life populations of that era (NS numbers are too wanked). Modern Era populations are perfectly fine too if 1900 era census cannot be found.

Due to new rules implaced by Moderators, a player MUST use his actual NS nation as oppose to real ones. Claimed nations will use the players NS title.


We also have an offsite forum, which currently we do not use, but given the current....situation with Earths, we use it as a fall back site, and therefore it would be wise to register there.

http://z6.invisionfree.com/World_War_Earth/index.php?http://s6.invisionfree.com/World_War_Earth/

Now then, Heres the map:


http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/999/newnationmn7.png


I hope people will find this fun. Timberwolf (Blue-Grey) colored spots are availible, all other colors mean occupied.

Wanderjar: New Prussian Empire (Grey)
Moorington: Austria-Hungary/Lichtenstein (Dark Blue)
Russiane: Ottoman Empire [Turkey/Jordan/Israel/Iraq/Syria] (Red)
Blub Empire: Blubanese Empire (Yellow)
The Aeson: The Aesonic Empire (Dark Green)
Templa: Austrailia and New Zealand (Brown)
British-Londonium: India/Sri Lanka (Peach)
Kopparbergs: French Republic (With French Guyana, and I don't care if you want it or not) (Light- Grey)
The Dregruk Empire: United Kingdom and Ireland (Purple)
Granate: Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg/Falkland Islands (Light Blue)
Maldorians: United States of America (Blue)
Mandrivia: Canada (Maroon)
Agnosial: Saudi Arabia/Kuwait (Brownish Green)
Voxio: Italy/San Marino/The Vatican/Corsica (Light Green)
Amazonian Beasts: Brazil/Uruguay (Sea Green)
Vetaka: China/Mongolia (Goldenrod)
TzHaair: Argentina (Cyan)
Lachenburg: Norway/Iceland (Pink)
Pelogostos: Egypt (Gold)
Ra and: Spain (Orange)
Laquasa Isle: Empire of Mexico (Green)
Ghost Tigers Rise: Poland (Light Purple)
Shakal: Empire of Sweden (Robins Egg Blue)
Gataway: Algeria (Brownish-Yellow)
Carloginias: Empire of Korea (Red-Orange)
Hurtful Thoughts: New Guinea (Very Dark Green)
Transylvania: United Empire of Romania/Moldava (Dark Red)
Candistan (Orange): Boer Republik
Talaurian (Aqua): Madagascar and Mozambique
Kanes Brotherhood: Niger
Kazkahstania: Cuba/Dominican Republic/Haiti-Central American Union


Countries Left Availible (List by popular Demand!):

South America/Central America/Carribean:


Chile
Venezeula
Paraguay
Peru
Colombia
Bolivia
Guyana
Suriname
Barbados
Puerto Rico (Spanish American War has not happened)
Honduras
Belize
St. Kitts
Bahamas
Trindad (I have an uncle from there.....)
Guatemala
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
Panama
Jamaica
Netherlands Antilles
St. Martin
Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
St. Vincent
Grenada

Africa:


All of Africa Availible except Egypt, Tunisia, Niger, Algeria, and South Africa


Asia:


Burma
Vietnam
Cambodia
Laos
Malaysia
Timor
Nepal
Tibet
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Persia
Kazakhstan
Uzbekistan
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Georgia


Europe


Serbia
Montenegro
Croatia
Moldava
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Finland
Greece
Bulgaria
Cyprus
Switzerland
Albania
Ukraine



"Any reference to a REAL LIFE country is simply a reference to a location, not the country itself. Once a particular area is occupied by a WWE nation.. it will be referred to appropriately as a territory or part of the occupying WWE government."

Why the hell not?

Could I claim Austria and Liechenstein?

Why the hell not?

Could I claim Austria and Liechenstein?

Why not? ;)

Can I have Turky, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Isreal? All these nations are small and grouped together. Its not really that big at all.

Why not? ;)
Nothing to lose!

I have a already made, and quite good looking if I say so myself, a factbook here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=508080). The bad thing, or good thing depending on your viewpoint, is that it is for Austria-Hungary.

So can you just provide me with that venerable territory for my divine institution or will I have to make another for Austria? Which is fine, but I am a hobo at heart and always willing to not work.

Nothing to lose!

I have a already made, and quite good looking if I say so myself, a factbook here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=508080). The bad thing, or good thing depending on your viewpoint, is that it is for Austria-Hungary.

So can you just provide me with that venerable territory for my divine institution or will I have to make another for Austria? Which is fine, but I am a hobo at heart and always willing to not work.

Way I see it, Austria-Hungary were one nation at that time, so it is implied that you would have this. Accepted ;)

Can I have Turky, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Isreal? All these nations are small and grouped together. Its not really that big at all.


Yes. At that time, this was all part of the Ottoman Empire, so why not? :)

However, they are big nations, Iraq for example, is larger than California by almost 11,000 miles. But yes, that is fine.

I think you will like this map better it is more detailed.

( the red are the areas I said I wanted earlier)

Yes. At that time, this was all part of the Ottoman Empire, so why not? :)

However, they are big nations, Iraq for example, is larger than California by almost 11,000 miles. But yes, that is fine.

By not that big, I meant in contrast to some of its neighbors and other countries, Iran is far larger.

What kind of things need to be included in the fact book?

By not that big, I meant in contrast to some of its neighbors and other countries, Iran is far larger.

Ok, I see what you meant now. And thanks for the updated map, you saved me some work!

The MIGHTY BLUB! .. would like Japan, please?

The MIGHTY BLUB! .. would like Japan, please?

Cool mano. :)


I've updated the map (I'll add you in in a sec blub)

If it's alright, I would like to participate as Australia...and possibly New Zealand?

the Democratic Republic of Russiane

President- Yletzvik Reibintrov
Government- Democratic Socialist Regime
Capital-Istanbul
Land Area- 597,793 Square Miles
Population- 945 million
Majority Religion- Orthodox Christian
Economy type- command economy ran by government officials
Recent Government Actions- annexation of Jordan (a little history, so it doesn't seen like Russiane came out of nowhere.)

I'd like Russia. And since once I have that everyone else is small compared to me, I'd like the US as well.

Okay, so if that logic doesn't work, how about Madagascar as well?

If it's alright, I would like to participate as Australia...and possibly New Zealand?

AnZac. ;)

Accepted.

@Aeson: Russia is cool with me, but Madagascar? If you want a colony, you can have Alaska, but that African colony is too unrealistic, no offense mate.


You cool with that trade off? I will add you in for Russia though.

I'll nab the British Isles, of that's fine with yourself. I'll not take anywhere else for realism's sake. Sort of.

*Scurries off to find gunboats/kettle*

I would like Ireland, the UK (and all of its territories and possessions as of now), and New Zealand.

I'll nab the British Isles, of that's fine with yourself. I'll not take anywhere else for realism's sake. Sort of.

*Scurries off to find gunboats/kettle*

We have a winner

I'd like to claim the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourge. Also if possible I would like to have The Falkland Islands as well.

what some of the rules of engagement for this RP, I would hate to start a war that did not follow the thread rules and get everyone mad at me.

what some of the rules of engagement for this RP, I would hate to start a war that did not follow the thread rules and get everyone mad at me.

In your own time, of course, Wanderjar. You must be having a hell of a time updating that map every few minutes.

*Sympathy confectionary*

I would like Ireland, the UK (and all of its territories and possessions as of now), and New Zealand.

New Zealand and the UK have already been claimed. Anything else you want?

@The Dregruk Empire: Sure thing man! But one question, and by this I mean no offense, are you going to stick around? I see you've posted about 5 times, but most new guys don't stick around long. If you don't think you will, or are unsure, choose a smaller role. Until then however, you may have the UK mate. :)


@Granate: Sounds good mano :)

what some of the rules of engagement for this RP, I would hate to start a war that did not follow the thread rules and get everyone mad at me.

I'm working on those at the moment ;)


@The Dregruk Empire: It's not so bad really ;)

New Zealand and India, then.

the Democratic Republic of Russiane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Preussen_1701-1918.jpg

President- Yletzvik Reibintrov
Government- Democratic Socialist Regime
Capital-Istanbul
Land Area- 597,793 Square Miles
Population- 945 million
Majority Religion- Orthodox Christian
Economy type- command economy ran by government officials
Recent Government Actions- annexation of Jordan (a little history, so it doesn't seen like Russiane came out of nowhere.)

Continued:

Main source of income- Oil trade
Military- 500000 men

( I am working on a military fact list right now, I added my flag as well )

Ok, this map's sucking. Half the colors don't agree with it. I'm going to find a new one. Bare with me.

too many people claim too much land. Well I aim to change that. You may claim one nation, and possibly one smaller one (Example Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, San Marino, etc).
Is this rule already declared void, seeing as multiple nations are claimed already?

I really thought it was a good rule, a bit different from other earths. Don't loose that...

I'm going to look this over, and maybe I'll come with a claim shortly...

New Zealand, Sri Lanka, and India, then.

India and Sri Lanka is fine. As I've already said before mate, New Zealand is taken. :p

Okay. Alaska works.

@The Dregruk Empire: Sure thing man! But one question, and by this I mean no offense, are you going to stick around? I see you've posted about 5 times, but most new guys don't stick around long. If you don't think you will, or are unsure, choose a smaller role. Until then however, you may have the UK mate. :)


Yeah, I'll be here for a while. Having to use this forum account because Jolt officially hates my old one (http://www.nationstates.net/dregruk). Annoying, eh?

Whoops. I can't read today...that claim works for me.

Is this rule already declared void, seeing as multiple nations are claimed already?

I really thought it was a good rule, a bit different from other earths. Don't loose that...

I'm going to look this over, and maybe I'll come with a claim shortly...

Yeah, I've already broken it and thought about it. I was just thinking about that when you posted, kinda one of those scratching my head moments. I'm going to just take that part down and moderate it myself. :)


EDIT: I'll be back momentarily. Need to grab something to eat, since I've neglected that today so far....hungry Wanderjar! lol

Is this rule already declared void, seeing as multiple nations are claimed already?

I really thought it was a good rule, a bit different from other earths. Don't loose that...

I'm going to look this over, and maybe I'll come with a claim shortly...

I'm kind of answering for the OP but I think the rule doesn't include old empires, so for example you could claim the Holy Roman Empire, or at least parts of it. That what I interpreted while reading the posts. Is that about right Wanderjar.

Ok, I'll take the French Republic.

Would it be okay if I inlcude some of the islands off the coast of turkey. If it is I will update my map accordingly. (I think I'm the only one with a personal map showing just my claims; it will be alot easier to keep track of my land when the RP starts.)

Here try this link for a better map, Russia is already colored in, thats just how the map came, (this is meant for Wanderjar. )

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/LocationRussia.png

bump:

Wanderjar, you're having Germany, and by 1897 the German Empire included Poland, so you might want to include it to your claims.

I found a map of Europe by 1900. Map of Europe. 1900 (http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1900.htm), Austria-Hungary was a fairly large country...

I've looked for a world-map from 1900, but without luck... Does anyone know about one?

I'm kind of answering for the OP but I think the rule doesn't include old empires, so for example you could claim the Holy Roman Empire, or at least parts of it. That what I interpreted while reading the posts. Is that about right Wanderjar.

This RP begins in 1897, so the Holy Roman Empire doesn't exist anymore. You claim based on nations that either existed at that time, or if choosing a spot in Africa, you can choose based on modern names. I'm going to post a rules thread in a few minutes, which we can debate, etc until we're all happy with them.

Wanderjar, you're having Germany, and by 1897 the German Empire included Poland, so you might want to include it to your claims.

I found a map of Europe by 1900. Map of Europe. 1900 (http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1900.htm), Austria-Hungary was a fairly large country...

I've looked for a world-map from 1900, but without luck... Does anyone know about one?

I know that, but I'm leaving it availible so that someone else who may want Poland may get involved.

Alright, the map should be completely updated now....


Now to work on rules (I'll make a separate thread for those)...I'll make a thread hub too, and this can serve as our Out of Character Thread.

This RP begins in 1897, so the Holy Roman Empire doesn't exist anymore. You claim based on nations that either existed at that time, or if choosing a spot in Africa, you can choose based on modern names. I'm going to post a rules thread in a few minutes, which we can debate, etc until we're all happy with them.

Oh, I didn't see the part where it said 1897 and later, so basicly it is the Ottoman Empire, Austria-Hungary, the British Empire and the Russian Empire ( I believe the Romanov's were still in power after 1897, so yeah that would include the Russian Empire)

Alright, the map should be completely updated now....


Now to work on rules (I'll make a separate thread for those)...I'll make a thread hub too, and this can serve as our Out of Character Thread.

I'm kind of new, what is a thread hub, is that where we can access the rules thread from this one.


I hope more people join this RP, there is an ass load of unclaimed territory, if nobody wants it, would it be okay if I annexed Egypt.

For some odd reason my claims are on the Map, but not the front page.... weird.

Way I see it, Austria-Hungary were one nation at that time, so it is implied that you would have this. Accepted ;)
Thank you! I'll try to live up to the expectations that incur from having such a nice sized, and culturally rich, country.

Wanderjar, you're having Germany, and by 1897 the German Empire included Poland, so you might want to include it to your claims.

I found a map of Europe by 1900. Map of Europe. 1900 (http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1900.htm), Austria-Hungary was a fairly large country...

I've looked for a world-map from 1900, but without luck... Does anyone know about one?
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3760/africamap18701914uw8.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=africamap18701914uw8.jpg)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/828/untitledlb6.th.png (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledlb6.png)

Wanderjar, you're having Germany, and by 1897 the German Empire included Poland, so you might want to include it to your claims.

I found a map of Europe by 1900. Map of Europe. 1900 (http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1900.htm), Austria-Hungary was a fairly large country...

I've looked for a world-map from 1900, but without luck... Does anyone know about one?

I can't find them either, but maps of pre- world war I should do just fine, it was still the age of imperialism then, so it may be a little differnent 1900 then say 1911 or something, but it should be close enough. The map I posted is from 1914, so it is during world war one but it is close enough.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Europe_1914.png

I'm kind of new, what is a thread hub, is that where we can access the rules thread from this one.


I hope more people join this RP, there is an ass load of unclaimed territory, if nobody wants it, would it be okay if I annexed Egypt.

A thread hub is basically just a thread where people post threads which they have either started, or are in. I, the moderator put those on the front page of it so that the RP is organized and everything is easily found. I've taken examples from Earth II and E20.


As for Annexing Egypt: Give it time mate. People will come. Until then though, I'd rather you didn't.

I'll take the continental USA plz...

I hope more people join this RP, there is an ass load of unclaimed territory, if nobody wants it, would it be okay if I annexed Egypt.
No, it wouldn't, there are several reasons mostly including Russia couldn't if it wanted to, Britain isn't going to roll over and die, and we are trying to keep land sizes to a minimum.

A thread hub is basically just a thread where people post threads which they have either started, or are in. I, the moderator put those on the front page of it so that the RP is organized and everything is easily found. I've taken examples from Earth II and E20.


As for Annexing Egypt: Give it time mate. People will come. Until then though, I'd rather you didn't.

I won't annex it yet, but woe to the person who chooses egypt or other north, and western african countries, conflict with me is inevitable, if someone chooses those nations.

I'll take the continental USA plz...

Sure thing

No, it wouldn't, there are several reasons mostly including Russia couldn't if it wanted to, Britain isn't going to roll over and die, and we are trying to keep land sizes to a minimum.

I think you misunderstood, I meant at the moment, a little more than half the world is unclaimed, and with territory sizes so small, there is room for at least 20 other RPer's.

I think you misunderstood, I meant at the moment, a little more than half the world is unclaimed, and with territory sizes so small, there is room for at least 20 other RPer's.

I'm hoping to keep it open so that other RPers may come later. I always hated the fact that the other Earths let people choose so much land, that there were maybe ten people rping, and no room for anyone else. Always sorta pissed me off. Thats the kind of thing I'm hoping to avoid here.

I'm hoping to keep it open so that other RPers may come later. I always hated the fact that the other Earths let people choose so much land, that there were maybe ten people rping, and no room for anyone else. Always sorta pissed me off. Thats the kind of thing I'm hoping to avoid here.

Okay; well here is an idea, until other RPer's claim the grey areas, then maybe we should just refer to them as rougue nations, or rebel provinces. Instead of just unclaimed territory. That way there are no quick and easy gains, you have to fight for what you have.

Okay; well here is an idea, until other RPer's claim the grey areas, then maybe we should just refer to them as rougue nations, or rebel provinces. Instead of just unclaimed territory. That way there are no quick and easy gains, you have to fight for what you have.

You're full of good ideas aren't you? :)

Will there be a seperate thread for warfare, like the other 'earths' or will all fighting take place on this thread adn be recorded here as well.

It would get awefuly confusing trying to sort out the tangle of alliances and battles, territory gains adn losses if it was all on just one single thread.

You're full of good ideas aren't you? :)

Yes, this is the first earth i've been to that let you help shape the way the RP works. Thought you might be interested in some of the ideas I have.

Will there be a seperate thread for warfare, like the other 'earths' or will all fighting take place on this thread adn be recorded here as well.

It would get awefuly confusing trying to sort out the tangle of alliances and battles, territory gains adn losses if it was all on just one single thread.

Thats why I made a thread hub: All wars, etc go into separate threads, which in turn will be placed in the HUB for easy access.

Thats why I made a thread hub: All wars, etc go into separate threads, which in turn will be placed in the HUB for easy access.

When I wrote this post, the thread hadn't appeared on my screen yet. I have computer lag because of all my computers hooked up to the same modem. Srry

I'm hoping to keep it open so that other RPers may come later. I always hated the fact that the other Earths let people choose so much land, that there were maybe ten people rping, and no room for anyone else. Always sorta pissed me off. Thats the kind of thing I'm hoping to avoid here.
Great Wanderjar! Keep that policy! There's really no need to control 10-15 countries - you can make good/fun RP's with smaller countries too! The only real difference is that with smaller claims there's room for more players/neighbors to RP with.

When I wrote this post, the thread hadn't appeared on my screen yet. I have computer lag because of all my computers hooked up to the same modem. Srry

Don't be mate! It was a valid question.

So I am guessing we can start to create Factbooks now, even though I have no idea how to do the economy.

So I am guessing we can start to create Factbooks now, even though I have no idea how to do the economy.

You can make one now, and leave out the economy part. I'm still working on figuring out how its going to work. Or, if you'd rather wait, thats cool too....

You can make one now, and leave out the economy part. I'm still working on figuring out how its going to work. Or, if you'd rather wait, thats cool too....

I've never really created a good fact book, so someone who has experience, could you please tell me the things that are critical and have to be included.
There are early atempts at it in earlier posts

Great Wanderjar! Keep that policy! There's really no need to control 10-15 countries - you can make good/fun RP's with smaller countries too! The only real difference is that with smaller claims there's room for more players/neighbors to RP with.

Thanks man. Thats why I'm avoiding giving people too much land, aside from what Russiane wanted, which was basically the Ottoman Empire and as such was feasible. I'm not giving many other people that much land.

I'll begin work on one. Dang, I've created so many I know how to do it almost by heart.

Call me the Low Kingdom.

Thanks man. Thats why I'm avoiding giving people too much land, aside from what Russiane wanted, which was basically the Ottoman Empire and as such was feasible. I'm not giving many other people that much land.

Sorry if I cause any trouble, but in the region I was in, to have a well oiled economy I needed those nations for the oil, without oil my nation would go bankrupt.

I've never really created a good fact book, so someone who has experience, could you please tell me the things that are critical and have to be included.
There are early atempts at it in earlier posts


Wait until some people make theirs, then get inspiration from it.

Sorry if I cause any trouble, but in the region I was in, to have a well oiled economy I needed those nations for the oil, without oil my nation would go bankrupt.

You didn't cause any at all. :)

Wait until some people make theirs, then get inspiration from it.

Okay, I was reading yours, but the my computer won't let me access it anymore, so I am stuck in the mud.

You didn't cause any at all. :)

Just making sure, I'm sure you can see that my claims were made in the interest of economic securtiy.

I would like Italy, SanMarino, The Vatican, Corsica [if it hasn't been taken by france], Tunisia and Malta.

I don't post here often, because many threads I see require me to have 200 or more posts or something to that effect. So if this thread is open to all, I'd like to join.

I'd like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, if I could.

Yes, they are, so I chose my region in the interest of National Secuity as well, no one will declare war on me, because I rule over sand, the only thing I have that they want is access to large reserves of oil, though they deplete signifacatly as the thread progresses into modern times.

Indian Empire Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12260798#post12260798

More to come soon.

I don't post here often, because many threads I see require me to have 200 or more posts or something to that effect. So if this thread is open to all, I'd like to join.

I'd like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, if I could.

If you do get those lands, you will be right by me, the worlds oil holders, here in a while in another thread, would you be interested in an alliance.

I don't post here often, because many threads I see require me to have 200 or more posts or something to that effect. So if this thread is open to all, I'd like to join.

I'd like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, if I could.

Sure thing mate.


@Voxio: Cool.

Could I grab Brazil and Uruguay?

Could I grab Brazil and Uruguay?

Sure thing!

If you do get those lands, you will be right by me, the worlds oil holders, here in a while in another thread, would you be interested in an alliance.

Maybe...

Maybe...

Maybe is good, if you say yes, we will split the spoils of my north african conquest I am planning to do later.

Can I take Canada? If not, then I'd like Britian, Russia, or Australia

Can I take Canada? If not, then I'd like Britian, Russia, or Australia

Britain Russia and Australia are already taken, Canada is free last time I checked, look at the OPer first post there is a map there with the current claims

Can I take Canada? If not, then I'd like Britian, Russia, or Australia

Canada is availible mate.

Maybe is good, if you say yes, we will split the spoils of my north african conquest I am planning to do later.

I say yes then.

Canada is availible mate.

Do you mind if I moniter the claims, you can approve them but I'll let them know whats taken and whats not, I have a pretty good idea what is taken and what is free.

I say yes then.

I will draft a formal treaty here in about an hour when all the kinks are worked out of the RP

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516062

The Low Kingdom Factbook. More info to come, like the Equipment I use and the ships I have.

Could I claim china and mongolia failing that just china?

Here is a sort of fact list for my nation, it is not great but it is a start.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12260894#post12260894

Could I claim china and mongolia failing that just china?

I don't see why not. :)

ON the new updated map, why is china cut in half, I thought he wanted China and Mongolia, not 1/2 of china and Mongolia?

Just curious.

Is it because of the sheer amount of people, with both mongolia and china, he could field armies that numbered the hundreds of millions.

In making your factbook, try to get close to what populations your nation(s) would have had back in 1900 (1897 is a bit too specific for a search, I just used 1900).

India, for example, had about 250 million.
United States had 76,212,168
Germany: 56 Million
Russia: 128 Million
UK and Ireland: 41,150,205
China: 467 million
Australia and New Zealand: 14 million
Italy: 32,475,000


I found all these by looking up the country I needed on yahoo, under "*insert Country here* population 1900"

Hope it works for your country!

ON the new updated map, why is china cut in half, I thought he wanted China and Mongolia, not 1/2 of china and Mongolia?

Just curious.

Is it because of the sheer amount of people, with both mongolia and china, he could field armies that numbered the hundreds of millions.

I wasn't including Tibet.

is it possible for me to take over japan :sniper:

I wasn't including Tibet.

Okay, just wondering.

is it possible for me to take over japan :sniper:

First of all, don't use gun smilies, they don't look good. Second of all, Japan is already taken.

If you mean might you physically "Take Over" Japan, sure! It just depends on what nation you use to do it....

I was reading in the rest of your rules, and the part about the rifles; I just want to clarify, is this the kind of weapons you were talking about...
http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/rifles.htm or even earlier models.

In making your factbook, try to get close to what populations your nation(s) would have had back in 1900 (1897 is a bit too specific for a search, I just used 1900).

India, for example, had about 250 million.
United States had 76,212,168
Germany: 56 Million
Russia: 128 Million
UK and Ireland: 41,150,205
China: 467 million
Australia and New Zealand: 14 million
Italy: 32,475,000


I found all these by looking up the country I needed on yahoo, under "*insert Country here* population 1900"

Hope it works for your country!

For Europe:

http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/population/

I was reading in the rest of your rules, and the part about the rifles; I just want to clarify, is this the kind of weapons you were talking about...
http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/rifles.htm or even earlier models.

I, for one, would be using the Mauser 1870 for my standard rifle, until I upgrade to the Mauser 1898 model. I'm working on the tech tree right now.

I'm going out for a bit. I'll be back on later.

is there anywhere untaken...?

is there anywhere untaken...?

Have you looked at the map on the front page?! Half the bloody world is untaken!

:p

is there anywhere untaken...?

Yes, most of central asia and south america, central america ( I think) hasn't had any of its countries claimed yet, the Balkens are still open as well.


Oh yeah, I almost forgot, the entirety of the African continent remains untaken, Millions of miles of land left unclaimed, it is a shame.

ive always wondered what hawaii would be like, so i would like that

ive always wondered what hawaii would be like, so i would like that

Just Hawaii? :confused:

and a small chunk of south africa,

and a small chunk of south africa,

You have to be specific, which countries exactly do you want in south africa.

Oh! Can I have Argentina? :)

actually, not part of africa, the amazon rainforest.

actually, not part of africa, the amazon rainforest.

The Amazon rainforest is in brazil and brazil is taken already.

and a small chunk of south africa,

Dude, you wouldn't have any fun at all with that, how about the Boer Republics? (South Africa in general, with Orange Free State, Transvaal, Stellaland, New Republic, Little Free State, Klipdrift Republic, and the numerous others which comprised South Africa?)

Oh! Can I have Argentina? :)

Sure mate.

Sure mate.

Yaaay. :D

Dude, you wouldn't have any fun at all with that, how about the Boer Republics? (South Africa in general, with Orange Free State, Transvaal, Stellaland, New Republic, Little Free State, Klipdrift Republic, and the numerous others which comprised South Africa?)

I agree with you, what he says he wants will put him at the mercy of the better situated nations on the thread.

actually, not part of africa, the amazon rainforest.

Why not just choose a country...

I just want to tell you all, once we are allowed to make Annexations, I will be annexing small Islands across most of the Atlantic, unless they are already claimed.

I just want to tell you all, once we are allowed to make Annexations, I will be annexing small Islands across most of the Atlantic, unless they are already claimed.

I too will be making annexations, but across the northern parts of Africa, any who stand in my way, will be crushed.

(trying to keep the arrogant, aggressive attitude of the Ottoman Empire.):p

I have to leave, and will not be back on until monday, will some one please email anything that is significant that happens on this thread,

the address is :

joshacarter1@gmail.com thanks

I too will be making annexations, but across the northern parts of Africa, any who stand in my way, will be crushed.

(trying to keep the arrogant, aggressive attitude of the Ottoman Empire.):p

And we'll be making annexations across western South America and Central America. Anyone who stands in MY way will be summarily impaled with spears. ;)

And we'll be making annexations across western South America and Central America. Anyone who stands in MY way will be summarily impaled with spears. ;)

Bring it on. Peru is mine.

Bring it on. Peru is mine.

Cigar cannons = you're going DOWN.

Can i have France?

Can i have France? i really would like to start ropleplaying already i have been silent too much time

Already Claimed, please try again.

Right, i didnt noted the color, if its clear can i have Spain then?

I see no reason why not, just remember you don't get spains Colonies, just Spaine.

Cigar cannons = you're going DOWN.

Eh-heh, so they say.

I too will be making annexations, but across the northern parts of Africa, any who stand in my way, will be crushed.

(trying to keep the arrogant, aggressive attitude of the Ottoman Empire.):p

I'm not as power hungry as my soon-to-be ally here, but I do want to annex Yemen, Qatar, Oman, and the U.A.E. as soon as possible. After that the only threats would be from Iran, seeing as Russiane is to the north and he'll be moving into Africa. Possibly western African coastal nations could threaten me also.

i would like egypt if available, or mexico (if possible both)

I'd like Mexico. The other dude is a bit too small for both.

Alright mates, I'm back. I'll be going through all I've missed and finding out who wants what.


Man I'm good! I've never had an RP not go more than three hours without being almost filled to capacity. Damn, I am the man. :D

actually i want mexico more tha egypt.

hello wanderjar

I'd like Mexico. The other dude is a bit too small for both.

Laquasa Isle, you can have Mexico.

@Ra and: Spain is yours mano!

@Pelogostos: Make up your mind mano! Egypt, South Africa, or something else? C'mon man!

EDIT: Hi Pelo!

Perhaps I might claim Norway and Iceland?

If those are taken, then just South Africa, please. And if South Africa is claimed, Zaire and the Republic of the Congo should be suitable.

i was going to ask for mexico, but ill settle with egypt, and (if allowed) the one next to it

Next to it could mean two things. Isreal or Libya. Depending on which way you go.

Perhaps I might claim Norway and Iceland?

If those are taken, then just South Africa, please. And if South Africa is claimed, Zaire and the Republic of the Congo should be suitable.

Norway is fine mate :). But would you mind just having Norway? I'm trying to keep people with having just one country, so we can have many players and leave lots of space open. If you really want Iceland though, then I guess I'll give it to you.

isreal and libya if im allowed(isreal is the holy land?)

isreal (is that the holy land)

Isreal is already claimed and Egypt plus Libya is a large area.... Wanderjar will have to think on this one.

isreal and libya if im allowed(isreal is the holy land?)

That land is taken by the Ottoman Empire.

which one?
ill settle with egypt then

What is Isreal's capital? Jerusalem? What did the Christian Crusaders try and take from the Muslims? Jerusalem. At this day and age Isreal is known by the name Palestine I beleive.

Yeah, right now it's Palestine, but the main city is Jerusalem.

As for why did the Crusaders try and take it from the Muslims: They believed that it was the divine right of all Christians to have the Holy Land, and make it safe for Europeans to make Pilgrimage there. They believed that it would clear their (Their being the poltical leaders of nations, and the Pope himself) sins if they took it for Christianity.

Is italy free? i would like italy

Is italy free? i would like italy

Gragh, I've given up hope on this one.

Is italy free? i would like italy

Dude, I gave you Egypt.

Norway is fine mate :). But would you mind just having Norway? I'm trying to keep people with having just one country, so we can have many players and leave lots of space open. If you really want Iceland though, then I guess I'll give it to you.

I'd really enjoy having both nations. However, if you truly need the space, I'll concede the claim.

I'd really enjoy having both nations. However, if you truly need the space, I'll concede the claim.

Then I'll give you Iceland. I don't think anyone's going to be that heartbroken really....I mean, look at all the dozens of nations left availible!

Theres alot of countries left people! Join up!

Then I'll give you Iceland. I don't think anyone's going to be that heartbroken really....I mean, look at all the dozens of nations left availible!

Excellent.

In a few minutes I'm going with a few buddies of mine to the movies, so when I get back, we'll get this show on the road. :)


I give you blokes permission to accept or deny admittance to people while I'm gone. Remember, we run this thing together (I'm a pretty strong believer in Solidarity). So if you don't think someone will be good in the RP, then deny them. However, I may overturn you if I disagree (it takes alot for me to not allow someone into an RP of mine, i.e they have to be terrible at writing, God mod like a sonofabitch, and just be a real prick for me to disallow them).


I'll be back about nine or ten.

In a few minutes I'm going with a few buddies of mine to the movies, so when I get back, we'll get this show on the road. :)


I give you blokes permission to accept or deny admittance to people while I'm gone. Remember, we run this thing together (I'm a pretty strong believer in Solidarity). So if you don't think someone will be good in the RP, then deny them. However, I may overturn you if I disagree (it takes alot for me to not allow someone into an RP of mine, i.e they have to be terrible at writing, God mod like a sonofabitch, and just be a real prick for me to disallow them).


I'll be back about nine or ten Eastern American Time.

In a few minutes I'm going with a few buddies of mine to the movies, so when I get back, we'll get this show on the road. :)


I give you blokes permission to accept or deny admittance to people while I'm gone. Remember, we run this thing together (I'm a pretty strong believer in Solidarity). So if you don't think someone will be good in the RP, then deny them. However, I may overturn you if I disagree (it takes alot for me to not allow someone into an RP of mine, i.e they have to be terrible at writing, God mod like a sonofabitch, and just be a real prick for me to disallow them).


I'll be back about nine or ten Eastern American Time.

Can I have Madagascar and Mozambique?

Darn these claims that are just on the cusp. I could disapprove this or approve it. It's that close.

Consider it approved for now. I'll Wanderjar worry about this one.

I've RP'ed a bit in a region, but never on the NationStates forum. I guess it's all bigger and faster here.

If it's alright with all of you, I like to try out with Switzerland. That way I have a reason to be slow and apathic.

Approved.

I was wondering why I'm in control of China.. then I saw that China is "goldenrod" and I'm "yellow" .. heee! Goldenrod. What a girly color.

Workin' on my factbookie now.

My Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12262158#post12262158

Can I have Madagascar and Mozambique?

Mozambique and 'Gascar should be fine.

Blub: Stick your factbook in the WWE Hub so it can be added there

Where's da hub at? *squints*

Just bumped it.

Gonna have to post my factbook there. Time to dig.

Mozambique and 'Gascar should be fine.

Blub: Stick your factbook in the WWE Hub so it can be added there

Yeah, I approve too.

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.


As for Haken Rider: Deffinately accepted. Welcome!

@Talaurian: I'm curious to see if he ever comes back.

Wanderjar i just look at the map and i just got upset

Wanderjar i just look at the map and i just got upset

Why? Because Austrailia is taken?

Alright mates, I'm back. I'll be going through all I've missed and finding out who wants what.


Man I'm good! I've never had an RP not go more than three hours without being almost filled to capacity. Damn, I am the man. :D

Modest, too. :D

Can I have Poland? (Or, rather, the Duchy of Warsaw. Poland was partitioned after the Polish-Russian War of 1792, and didn't reform until after World War I. And, yes, I'm a dork. :))

Why? Because Austrailia is taken?

no you forgot a state that little island is apart of Austrailia

Modest, too. :D

Can I have Poland? (Or, rather, the Duchy of Warsaw. Poland was partitioned after the Polish-Russian War of 1792, and didn't reform until after World War I. And, yes, I'm a dork. :))

My man, you don't even have to ask.

Can we start now, yo?!

no you forgot a state that little island is apart of Austrailia

AH, you mean Tazmania? I forgot to list it. I'll change that.

Can we start now, yo?!

Sure thing. I'll start up a diplomacy thread, and you all can get discussing while I work the kinks out of the economic system i've been contemplating for the past few hours

Why not? ;)

Few ?'s:


1)Will we RP major events, like the WWs?

2)Will one WWE year = 1 NS year?

3)Are you strictly RPing the claimed areas, or your own nation but with the claimed area (example, do I RP as Mexico or Cuba, or do I use the name "The Empire of Mexico" and use my nations leaders/stats/government/population/military/economy?)

AH, you mean Tazmania? I forgot to list it. I'll change that.

list Tasmania who got Australia gets it as it a state of Australia

Alright, I have to go for awhile (need to help with some farm work). I'll post again in about an hour.

Alright, I have to go for awhile (need to help with some farm work). I'll post again in about an hour.

WJ, what state are you in?

is the map on the first post up to date or has everything been claimed already...

WJ, do you have the tech tree made up too?

is the map on the first post up to date or has everything been claimed already...

There's still a ton of stuff to claim. Just not Madagascar or Malique whatever. That hasn't been updated. Everything else is fair game I think, but you can only pick one or two places.

WJ, do you have the tech tree made up too?

A: Florida

B: Yes, the tech tree and the economic system is ready for testing. I just need to type it up actually.

Few ?'s:


1)Will we RP major events, like the WWs?

2)Will one WWE year = 1 NS year?

3)Are you strictly RPing the claimed areas, or your own nation but with the claimed area (example, do I RP as Mexico or Cuba, or do I use the name "The Empire of Mexico" and use my nations leaders/stats/government/population/military/economy?)

Rping the areas claimed. Major Events will inevitably occur, but however we decide to have them happen, and when we decide to have them happen. Basically, from 1897 on, history is ours to shape however we like. And also, one WWE year is equivalent to one RL week. I mentioned that in the rules thread.

Can I have Sweden

I want to be called the Swedish Empire if thats ok. If i can my factbook will be up in under a day.

if possible is Algeria avaliable?

Can I have Sweden

I want to be called the Swedish Empire if thats ok. If i can my factbook will be up in under a day.

Absolutely.


@Gataway: Sure!

Could I get North and South Korea?

Thank you!:)

k ill have my factbook up by tommorow night

Could I get North and South Korea?

Empire of Korea sounds good to me mano!

How about democratic republic.. Wow that even made me laugh. (I wil lieing anyway :P :P ) Empire sounds good to me.

Mind if I try re-hashing my never used but already posted AMW factook?

I call New Guinea...

I'll start it off as the Hurtful Thoughts Empire....

Too corny...

Democracy?
Monarchy?

Union of Socialist Republics Of Hurtful Thoughts? (USRHT?!?)

The Socialist Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts?


Eh, I'll stick with 'MOHT'... except no acronyms, since they aint in style yet...

More in deoth history (1st post will soon be edited into an index and quick refferance)

Accepted Baseline (http://s9.invisionfree.com/NS_Modern_World/index.php?showtopic=240):

History
Hurtful Thoughts
In 1545 the Spaniard Yñigo Ortiz de Retez sailed along the north coast of New Guinea as far as the Mamberamo River near which he landed, naming the island 'Nueva Guinea'. The first map showing the whole island (as an island) was published in 1600 and shows it as 'Nova Guinea'.

The first European claim occurred in 1828, when the Netherlands formally claimed the western half of the island as Netherlands New Guinea. In 1883, following a short-lived French annexation of New Ireland, the British colony of Queensland annexed south-eastern New Guinea. However, the Queensland government's superiors in the United Kingdom revoked the claim, and (formally) assumed direct responsibility in 1884, when Germany claimed north-eastern New Guinea as the protectorate of German New Guinea (also styled Kaiser-Wilhelmsland). The first Dutch government posts were established in 1898 and in 1902 Manokwari on the North coast, Fak-Fak in the West and Merauke in the South at the border with British New Guinea.

[this is where history changes]
A civil war quicly broke out diring the hostilities of the 1st World war, the Island sided with the Germans and threw out the British and Dutch forces, Australasia, which had gained independance from the British Crown in 1901, refused to help the British on the island, which quickly was dubbed "The Land/People Of Hurtful Thoughts" by journalists due to the ferocious fighting there, the name stuck.

Mind if I try re-hashing my never used but already posted AMW factook?

I call New Guinea...

You know, its almost sad. YOU calling New Guinea. Are you sure? Wouldn't you rather have, I don't know, Serbia or something?


I'll give you NG, but I'm just trying to help you out. (Then again though, It would be interesting to see you try to turn that place into a Global Power...)

I have a begginning Tech Tree, and a Beginning Economic System going!

w00t! Let the games begin!

You know, its almost sad. YOU calling New Guinea. Are you sure? Wouldn't you rather have, I don't know, Serbia or something?


I'll give you NG, but I'm just trying to help you out. (Then again though, It would be interesting to see you try to turn that place into a Global Power...)

I see nothing wrong with taking new Guenia, the place is just the way I like it, inhospitable, 3rd world at best, remote, and home to some of the fiercest fighting in the 1940's...

Oh, wit that didn't happen yet... still, I see nothing wrong with a person who plays as an Island nation which is mostly jungle to play as a 3rd world island that is also, mostly jungle...

And yes, I have tried before to turn it into a world power, see Earth 13...

1st world war should most likely be my intro thread, I guess...

DEATH BY PYGMIES!

Here it is! Let the Rping begin!

(IC Thread: Political, Economic)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516128


For military Campaigns, Wars, Alliances, etc, create new threads and post their link in the HUB. For mere discussion of other things, i.e treaties, economic and trade deals, post them in the IC thread.

I see nothing wrong with taking new Guenia, the place is just the way I like it, inhospitable, 3rd world at best, remote, and home to some of the fiercest fighting in the 1940's...

Oh, wit that didn't happen yet... still, I see nothing wrong with a person who plays as an Island nation which is mostly jungle to play as a 3rd world island that is also, mostly jungle...

Theres nothing wrong with it mano. Forget I mentioned it. I'll put you down now :)

Wow. I need to see what exactly Korea has.. :/

Wow. I need to see what exactly Korea has.. :/

lol, go to cia.gov, and look for the world factbook on North and South Korea, and find out their resources, exports, etc. That should help.

Just remember though, that this is 1897, not 2007 ;)

Alright, guten nacht everyone. I'll off to bed.

coal, tungsten, graphite, molybdenum, lead

coal, lead, tungsten, zinc, graphite, magnesite, iron ore, copper, gold, pyrites, salt, fluorspar

Okay.. there we go. :D

Thios RP is confusing me...some of us are RPing nations that existed, and some are making nations that wouldn't exist. Those that do exist don't have the same land they would have really had.

Logically with the change in empires the entire world would change...just seems too confusing.

I figured we'd be making up our own nations like in some other earths.

we'll use Real life populations of that era (NS numbers are too wanked). Modern Era populations are perfectly fine too if 1900 era census cannot be found.
I suggest that if you don't know the population of your country at 1900, you can go with 50% of todays population. I think it's close enough to the truth.

Displaying Austria-Hungary on a real world map is hard, so it won't look like the Austria-Hungary I know and love. Still, adding the countries of Slovenia, Czech Republic, Croatia, and Slovakia would go a long way in forming the basic outlines.

Kopparbergs has the right idea :)


@Moorington: Remember, I'm not using the other territories, just the basics, because I'm hoping to keep this thing growing. However I will ceede you Czechoslovakia.

Thios RP is confusing me...some of us are RPing nations that existed, and some are making nations that wouldn't exist. Those that do exist don't have the same land they would have really had.

Logically with the change in empires the entire world would change...just seems too confusing.

I figured we'd be making up our own nations like in some other earths.

In this earth, basically you pick a nation and run for as long as this RP goes. Hurtful Thoughts decided to call New Guinea by his national name, which is fine too. Its still New Guinea, just with a different name. You're perfectly allowed to do this, just tell me though. The default name is merely what it was called in real life by 1897.

Heehee. Hurrah for elite units and early armored vehicles.

Heehee. Hurrah for elite units and early armored vehicles.

lol


Now, we can still follow technology, I'll just have to find a new system of research.

lol


Now, we can still follow technology, I'll just have to find a new system of research.

My personal preference would be just to more or less freestyle it, within reason. I mean, I'm not about to develop ICBMs or SHBTs, but within reason.

My personal preference would be just to more or less freestyle it, within reason. I mean, I'm not about to develop ICBMs or SHBTs, but within reason.

Yeah, I guess we'll do that. But then to keep ourselves honest we should probably use more historical date of creation? After the First World War, then we'll go totally freestyle, but I'd like to keep things kinda regimented so that the RP holds together. I've found that if an RP like this survives until and after its first War, then it's good for the long haul. I've also found having loose regimentation of this also helps.

I think that by basically designing things historically until WWI, then during the war it can become completely free style (of course within reason), and then we'll see how that goes. Everyone cool with that?

Sounds fine to me. Of course, a lot of what happens after WWI would depend on how World War I goes. For example, if Germany comes out on top, no need for a scapegoat, hence no need for, Einstein, just for example, to go to the US. And Einstein had a big effect on US nuclear research.

I take it, then, the WWI is definitely going to happen; it would really suck if all the European powers came close to conflict, then resolved the issue with dignified quiet conversation...

I take it, then, the WWI is definitely going to happen; it would really suck if all the European powers came close to conflict, then resolved the issue with dignified quiet conversation...

What sparked the Great War was Austria-Hungary's invasion of Serbia, then Russia's intervention, and the Entente (Great Britain, France, and Russia) siding against Germany and Austria-Hungary. That is how the war began.



It could, I suppose, happen in other ways, but if Moorington attacks Serbia (If someone ever claims it....) Russia WILL step it, since historically they had a mutual assistance pact, and Serbia always referred to Russia as its "Big Brother" nation.

There's not a whole lot to design for WWI really. Rifles, grenades, machineguns. Biplanes and those big clunker tanks came into play after a year or two of the war. So.. yeah, should be fairly simple.

It'd be awesome if our WWI turned out like Iron Storm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Storm_%28PC%29). Lasting sixty years, trench warfare with helicopters and assault rifles... Probably never happen, but, still, it'd be cool.

There's not a whole lot to design for WWI really. Rifles, grenades, machineguns. Biplanes came into play after a year or two of the war. So.. yeah, should be fairly simple.

Thats why I started in 1897, so we can set the stage, get ourselves ready, and ultimately fight a war sometime within the next twelve game years.

It'd be awesome if our WWI turned out like Iron Storm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Storm_%28PC%29). Lasting sixty years, trench warfare with helicopters and assault rifles... Probably never happen, but, still, it'd be cool.

Would you believe me if I told you that I have hoped since the beginning of this RP that it would? And that I was actually thinking the same thing?

Thats why I started in 1897, so we can set the stage, get ourselves ready, and ultimately fight a war sometime within the next twelve game years.

I think I have a big advantage though. =)

I recently played another forum game on invisionfree called Head of State that started in 1901. It used a sort of Risk type map, where there was no one nation intact.. rather split up into pieces. We choose 3 starting territories (I got Pennsylvania, Maryland and West Virginia) and sort of built an empire.

Big RP'd battles, as well as domestic and military projects to build infrastructure and new war machines. :> *cackles, rubs tentacles together*

It'd be awesome if our WWI turned out like Iron Storm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Storm_%28PC%29). Lasting sixty years, trench warfare with helicopters and assault rifles... Probably never happen, but, still, it'd be cool.

i have played that game on PS2 an i like to see how that would came out in RP

I think I have a big advantage though. =)

I recently played another forum game on invisionfree called Head of State that started in 1901. It used a sort of Risk type map, where there was no one nation intact.. rather split up into pieces. We choose 3 starting territories (I got Pennsylvania, Maryland and West Virginia) and sort of built an empire.

Big RP'd battles, as well as domestic and military projects to build infrastructure and new war machines. :> *cackles, rubs tentacles together*

I wanted to play that, but there were no more spaces availible :(

Would you believe me if I told you that I have hoped since the beginning of this RP that it would? And that I was actually thinking the same thing?

No, I'd accuse you of plagiarism and have you executed by firing squad.


Just kidding. I'm not surprised... because I can read your mind. O_O

No, I'd accuse you of plagiarism and have you executed by firing squad.


Just kidding. I'm not surprised... because I can read your mind. O_O

Hey! I just saw your sig! Welcome back to II!

Hey! I just saw your sig! Welcome back to II!

Bu-whah?! You don't know me! *runs away*


Thanks, man. :D

No, I'd accuse you of plagiarism and have you executed by firing squad.


Just kidding. I'm not surprised... because I can read your mind. O_O

Right....


I like this song. Since you sent me Dreams, I'm returning the favor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDG56Xq4JFQ


You're Irish, so you'll appreciate it ;)

Right....


I like this song. Since you sent me dreams, I'm returning the favor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDG56Xq4JFQ


You're Irish, so you'll appreciate it ;)

Hehe. Zombies is a good song.

Here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FYAijiz7nZM
Can't stop listening to this song...

Hehe. Zombies is a good song.

Here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FYAijiz7nZM
Can't stop listening to this song...

Did you know that my family, the Blairs, is the largest Scottish clan? My part was exiled because we, Knights of Scotland, refused to surrender to the British King when it was annexed in 1707. I'm a knight!

Did you know that my family, the Blairs, is the largest Scottish clan? My part was exiled because we, Knights of Scotland, refused to surrender to the British King when it was annexed in 1707. I'm a knight!

both sides of my family last names came from Scotland

Did you know that my family, the Blairs, is the largest Scottish clan? My part was exiled because we, Knights of Scotland, refused to surrender to the British King when it was annexed in 1707. I'm a knight!

So... you've been knighted?

Did you know that my family, the Blairs, is the largest Scottish clan? My part was exiled because we, Knights of Scotland, refused to surrender to the British King when it was annexed in 1707. I'm a knight!

Huh. Cool.
I may or may not be related to some sort-of famous Irish people. I have no idea, though.

Granate: Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg/Falkland Islands (Light Blue)

I'm wondering if Granate would allow his Dutch forces to continue with their historic attempt to conquest western New Guinea...

If not, is anyone willing to take the place of the Dutch forces?

Since niether Germany nor the British seem interested in the rather large supply of raw materials for explosives and an extremely hard lumber called 'Ironwood'... Termite, rot, and bullet resistant...

So... you've been knighted?

No...I am not a limey ;)


I don't submit to your King. I, a Scotsman, inherit my Knighthood through birth, though Scotland no longer has a King.


EDIT: I would like to add that I mean no offense to you Aeson, merely a friendly joke from your yankee (Though I am a Southerner) cousin to the West ;)

Lachenburg! Nice post in the IC thread man!

Lachenburg! Nice post in the IC thread man!

Thank you.

No...I am not a limey ;)


I don't submit to your King. I, a Scotsman, inherit my Knighthood through birth, though Scotland no longer has a King.


EDIT: I would like to add that I mean no offense to you Aeson, merely a friendly joke from your yankee (Though I am a Southerner) cousin to the West ;)

Scotsmen inherit their knighthood? Bah. Easy way out.

Scotsmen inherit their knighthood? Bah. Easy way out.

Haha, but we have to earn our keeping of it ;)


Example: My great-great (however many Greats) grandfather died, literally, along side William Wallace as he was executed by the English after his capture.

Scotsmen inherit their knighthood? Bah. Easy way out.

Haha, but we have to earn our keeping of it ;)


Example: My great-great (however many Greats) grandfather died, literally, along side William Wallace as he was executed by the English after his capture.

funny thing my late step dad was a Lord or was it Sir,all i know he had a Title

The first thing that the Germans were doing now, was the organization of their Navy. The Kaiser knew that the Heer had superiority on the land, with better training, equipment, supply, everything.

"But the bloody limeys have us beat at sea," Wilhelm recognized without hiding his disgust. Speaking to several Admirals and manufacturing Businessmen before him, he said, "So, we must increase production. It appears that our British cousins are superior on the waves. This cannot be. We must step up production of our forces in order to counteract this." Nodding at a very well dressed Businessman, he continued, "That is where you come in. We are going to give you a contract to produce our finest ships in larger quantities, and the Admiral here shall advise you in your construction of newer craft."

"Yes mein Kaiser," The Business man said humbly. "It will be an honor."

"All of Deutschland thanks you." And with that, all left, leaving Wilhelm alone.

Perhaps Sir Arthur Cannon Doyle could be of your assistance...
(see the suggestion he made for using submarines to destroy shipping)
At least Edwin P. Hoyt attributed Germany's interest in Commerce raiding to this authur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_raiding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_strategy#Mahan.2C_Corbett_and_the_development_of_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonnage_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_raider

The ship that sank more tonnage than the entire U-boat fleet...
http://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/ships/auxcruiser/mowe/index.html
http://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/ships/auxcruiser/geier/index.html

Poor old Queen Victoria; no one's coming to her Diamond Jubilee. So marks the start of deteriorating Ango-European relations... :p

And Hurtful Thoughts, I'm not quite sure what you were asking in the IC thread. Was it that you want me to provide additional weaponry for the colonists in South New Guinea?

Bump for Kazakh

Poor old Queen Victoria; no one's coming to her Diamond Jubilee. So marks the start of deteriorating Ango-European relations... :p

And Hurtful Thoughts, I'm not quite sure what you were asking in the IC thread. Was it that you want me to provide additional weaponry for the colonists in South New Guinea?

Just acknowlege that I accepted, I don't feel like writing a new post for that, unless it is in the actual event. ;)


Also, when you do hold it, make it in a new thread.

Just acknowlege that I accepted, I don't feel like writing a new post for that, unless it is in the actual event. ;)


Also, when you do hold it, make it in a new thread.

Sure thang.

(Also, don't mean to nit-pick, but in your factbook you mention "Dreadnought squadrons"... the HMS "Dreadnought" was launched in 1906, so the design hasn't really been thought of yet. Unless you did it and I completely missed it.)

Sure thang.

(Also, don't mean to nit-pick, but in your factbook you mention "Dreadnought squadrons"... the HMS "Dreadnought" was launched in 1906, so the design hasn't really been thought of yet. Unless you did it and I completely missed it.)

OOC: Yeah, I know, I just realized that and I'm taking it out.

I misread something in Janes.

Can I claim El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica?

Its just a belt of central American nations.

Thanks.

And Hurtful Thoughts, I'm not quite sure what you were asking in the IC thread. Was it that you want me to provide additional weaponry for the colonists in South New Guinea?

Yes please. I'd very much apprecite the use of some Vickers-Maxims, although I'll settle for a Hiram-Maxim just as fast...

Plus I'll note that the riot/explosion started in your domain, and that what is presumed to be the Dutch Marines, have landed upon the West coast...

Who controls NG is now very much in question... And losing it is still a loss, either to the Germans or the Dutch...

And the Queen can't have that happen, now can she?

Hurty, in response to your remark regarding my use of automated weaponry on my armored cars, I'd like to point out that the Gatling Gun existed for some time before that, and that as early as 1718, a revolver cannon known as the 'Puckle Gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun)' had been invented and built.

So it is in no way inconceivable that Russia of this era would have automatic weaponry.

Regarding your comment as to Russian manufacturing power, I point out that I've had the gold in Alaska to exploit to increase my manufacturing power, and that I've so far built fifteen of a prototype form of this weapon.

Hurty, in response to your remark regarding my use of automated weaponry on my armored cars, I'd like to point out that the Gatling Gun existed for some time before that, and that as early as 1718, a revolver cannon known as the 'Puckle Gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun)' had been invented and built.

So it is in no way inconceivable that Russia of this era would have automatic weaponry.

Regarding your comment as to Russian manufacturing power, I point out that I've had the gold in Alaska to exploit to increase my manufacturing power, and that I've so far built fifteen of a prototype form of this weapon.

I understand the Gatling (an 1860's invention, also used by the French in the Franco-Prussian War...) was very much available by 1890's, and that you could even be using the Russian built Maxim in quantity. I just will note that cars are still for the most part extremely expensive until Henry Ford or some Russian equivilant starts the 'mass production assembly line' concept...
(Hence why you claim only to have 15)

Armored trains were popular though, and such vehicles often mounted something a bit larger than a MG as well...

And I also know that Russia had even back then, some arms manufacturing industry, at the very least enough to develop their own weapons and ammunition, and perhaps to keep up with peacetime production, but it would have taken direct intervention of the Russian government to make a sufficient 'burst' production as was demanded during the Great War, especially if their factories get overran, as what happend during the first war...

It seems no one has taken any interest in my Krag-Jørgensen Rifles. A pity, for they are quite capable weapons.

Also, I must say that before anyone starts cranking out Armoured Vehicles they take the time to consider the following. Firstly, considering the first commercially available automobile was not even introduced until 1885, the idea of motorized travel is still a very primative science. In fact, most vehicles (which are quite rare even in western capitals) as of 1897 are not more than carriages with small motors and a very basic transmission attached to them. In fact, the Victoria, a two-seat passenger vehicle introduced in 1893 and, as of this time, on the cutting edge of auto technology, can produce a maximum of 3 hp and reach a maximum speed (in optimal conditions) of around 11 mph.

Now try driving that thing through a muddy field or any unpaved surface and it won't be long until either your modified carriage wheels get mired in the muck below, the motor gives out or a tire pops. In truth, your soldiers will spend more time fixing the contraption rather than moving.

Thus, although we are quickly approaching the era of mechanized warfare, the horse is still surpreme.

Can I claim El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica?

Its just a belt of central American nations.

Thanks.

Could I convince you to take the Empire of Mexico? The reason is that we're trying to avoid truly massive claims, and this way you recieve a Central American Power, without taking the entirity of Central America ;)

You can conquer these territories of course as Mexico.....

Could I claim South Africa, Swaziland, and Lesotho under the name of the Boer Republik?

Could I claim South Africa, Swaziland, and Lesotho under the name of the Boer Republik?

Hey man! Welcome to another Wanderjar RP (You were in Decisive Battles, were you not?)


Anyway, absolutely!


And if I don't actually put your claim on a map right away I apologize, but during the week I'm usually very busy so I can rarely get on for more than an hour or two per day. So bare with me mates ;)


(I'll upload your claim Candistan in an hour or so)

It seems no one has taken any interest in my Krag-Jørgensen Rifles. A pity, for they are quite capable weapons.

Also, I must say that before anyone starts cranking out Armoured Vehicles they take the time to consider the following. Firstly, considering the first commercially available automobile was not even introduced until 1885, the idea of motorized travel is still a very primative science. In fact, most vehicles (which are quite rare even in western capitals) as of 1897 are not more than carriages with small motors and a very basic transmission attached to them. In fact, the Victoria, a two-seat passenger vehicle introduced in 1893 and, as of this time, on the cutting edge of auto technology, can produce a maximum of 3 hp and reach a maximum speed (in optimal conditions) of around 11 mph.

Now try driving that thing through a muddy field or any unpaved surface and it won't be long until either your modified carriage wheels get mired in the muck below, the motor gives out or a tire pops. In truth, your soldiers will spend more time fixing the contraption rather than moving.

Thus, although we are quickly approaching the era of mechanized warfare, the horse is still surpreme.

You have a point, and a good one. However, I do believe that Aeson is a good enough RPer to know that if war breaks out soon, he'll have to incorporate inefficiency into the machine ;)