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United Socialist States of Wagdog (People's Earth Edition Factbook)

Wagdog
25-01-2007, 05:41
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Factbook and General Information
The United Socialist States of Wagdog is a reformed-style Socialist state, very much modeled after the former PRC, and founded in 2004 by a group of American leftist college students who decided to abandon then- President Bush's increasingly conservative regime and craft a new sort of socialist state than had been seen before.
To that effect, Wagdog is governed as follows. The Revolutionary Command Council governs with supreme executive power, its General Secretary elected by the people from the ruling Revolutionary Party only, and its other secretaries appointed by the General Secretary from whatever party they see fit. These appointments may come from the Revolutionary Party itself, a reformed-Bolshevik organization much like the Chinese Communist Party; or instead any among the neo-Stalinist Noble Revolutionaries, the neo-Maoist People's Revolutionaries, the "liberal" Social Democrats, and the "conservative" Greenwood Coalition environmentalist bloc. Though he may be elected, a no-confidence vote against the General Secretary must be passed by the RCC before a challenge may be made in the upcoming elections.
The supreme Legislative organ is a unicameral National People's Congress, whose membership is elected annually without term limits according to party gains in the election. Ballots are simple yes/no/abstain affairs, and defeats simply mean an incumbent stays in power for one more year. These same party percentages also determine standing in the National People's Political Consultative Conference, an advisory organ with broad (if shallow) powers in all aspects of governance which in practice often acts like an impromptu upper-house.
A Supreme People's Court exists to oversee the various State and local courts; jurisprudence being based upon common law, but the trial system being Napoleonic in form. Instead of juries, panels of professional judges are given broad investigative powers to match those of the prosecuting and defense attorneys, and the goal of all trials (civil or criminal) is to establish the simple truth of the matter. Despite this seemingly harsh procedure, though, civil rights are actually quite high. Privacy is near-sacrosanct, even drug use being legal so long as it remains at home, and no sexual conduct other than rape or incest being criminalized at all; criticism of the State is fine so long as no libel or slander, or sedition is involved; and religion is freely practiced according to Wagdog's efforts to support growth of what is often called "Socialist Spiritual Civilization" in yet another seeming borrow from Chinese policy. Sedition and its capital relative, Treason, are constitutionally-defined to avoid politically-motivated abuse of such charges; being respectively defined as "...incitement to unlawful demonstration and counterrevolutionary violence, or any one of these..." and "...rendering material aid and comfort to enemies of the People and State, or any one of these."
So far, referring back to the beginning, Wagdog's effort to build a new brand of Socialism has succeeded quite well, with much of the former Pacific territories of the British Commonwealth, United States, and France being now incorporated into a new revolutionary community. The economy is basic, but improving due to Wagdog's key innovation in defining "socialism;" that is, placing state industry in the marketplace alongside private concerns, and giving it what support it needs to actually attract entrepeneurial talent and compete on even-or-better terms, such as tax incentives and automatic Revolutionary Party membership perks for all state employees.
The state is avowedly secular (though not atheist) and multiracial, with even mystical races such as Elves, Vampires and Were-humans emerging for mysterious reasons to live among the otherwise normal Human majority. As to why is again unclear, aside from it correlating with the country's reemergence from obscurity in 2006, but so far aside from the seeming agelessness of the Vampires and Elves, and the Weres unpredictable habits, the nation is otherwise a normal modern technology state; with magic hardly a concern at all even for most of the citizens who supposedly owe their existence to it. Holidays are many and festive, notably including the anniversaries of just about every major revolution or revolutionary manifesto, the usual civic holidays, and even religious celebrations such as Christmas or the annual commemorative Feast of the Valar arranged by the Elven community.
The armed services are as professional and well-equipped as the economy will allow, and conscription is in place for the Red Guard only; with only one call-up per year to avoid the hazing concerns seen in the Russian army and elsewhere. The Red Guard, with its own Air Patrol and affiliated separate Red Banner Coast Guard, serves as an armed militia, training, and law-enforcement organization. Service terms are for two years, one of which is entirely devoted to training, and at discharge time a Guardsman is given the choice of volunteering for their corresponding regular service for a twenty-year term, volunteering for further Guard service of the same duration, or mustering out into the Reserve pool pending further recall up until twenty-five years after their discharge date.

Some basic facts:
Population: 10,205,489 (Including West Papua's 2,646,489)
Capital: Tailville D.R. (Formerly Arawa, Bougainville Island)
Official Languages: English, French, Spanish, Romanian, Sindarin
Government: Constitutional Dictatorship (Socialist)
Area: 948,284 square kilometers (Counting East and West Papua/New Guinea plus all Pacific archipelago states)
GDP (PPP, 2005 est.): $25,360,920,050 USD (counting West Papua at $1,190,920,050 USD when under Indonesian rule...)
GDP Per Capita: $2,485.03 USD (counting West Papua @ $450 USD per capita when under Indonesian rule...)
Currency: Fiat (F$)
Time Zones: UTC+10, +11, +12, +13
Internet TLD: .wd
Calling Code:: +675

Diplomatic Relations of Wagdog
OOC: To Be Updated.

Revolutionary Command Council
General Secretary (GENSEC): Cde. Carolinus Horridus (Human?, Revolutionary Party)
Deputy General Secretary (DEPGENSEC): Cde. Christine Friedrich (Human, Revolutionary Party)
Attorney General (ATTGEN): Cde. Chad Weatherspoon (Human, Social Democratic Party)
Secretary of State (SECSTATE): Cde. Rilir Alarion nos Carthir (Elf, Greenwood Coalition)
Secretary of the Interior (SECINT): Cde. Elaine Williams (Human, Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Defense (SECDEF): Cde. Mario Iliescu (Vampire, Noble Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of the Treasury (SECTREAS): Cde. Wally Shortclaw (Werewolf, People's Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Commerce (SECCOMM): Cde. Celine Longtail (Were-Tigress, People's Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Labor (SECLAB): Cde. Lucius Sistercius (Vampire, Noble Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Agriculture (SECAG): Cde. Thomas Flathoof (Were-Mule, People's Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Energy (SECEN): Cde. Christine Holtzdel (Human, Greenwood Coalition)
Secretary of Transportation (SECTRAN): Cde. Jack Roland (Human, Social Democratic Party)
Secretary of Education (SECED): Cde. Justina Stephens (Human, Social Democratic Party)
Secretary of Health & Welfare (SECHEAWEL): Cde. Tarir Rotharion nos Alar (Elf, Greenwood Coalition)
Wagdog
25-01-2007, 19:37
Some Military Information:
General Note: Upon Wagdog's emergence in October of 2004, despite not formally declaring independence from its islands' various occupying powers until July 4th 2005, all military equipment on those islands and those later joining the country was impressed into service. This included the temporary detention of several nations' military personnel, most of whom elected and were allowed to return home. Those that did remain, however, form the core of their various services to this day as full citizens and servicemembers of Wagdog.
The equipment seized is assumed to have been replaced by its original owners during the past few years, to re-equip those units both affected by the seizures and still in existence. Notable among the seizures were the equipment for a complete Expeditionary Wing of the USAF and Marine Expeditionary Brigade of the USMC; which were distributed to the newly-established Red Army, Red Army Air Force and Red Banner Marine Corps to form the core of their combat power to this day.

Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council Military Committee--
Commander-in-Chief: General Secretary Carolinus Horridus (OOC: Technically an honorary Field Marshal due to his role in the Revolution, but hardly ever wears a uniform or any medals out of respect for the real officers under him.)
Deputy CINC: Deputy General Secretary Christine Friedrich (OOC: An honorary Vice Marshal, and more prone to pull that rank than her husband even if still not too much so.)
Secretary of Defense: Cde. Mario Iliescu (Noble Revolutionary Party)
Army Chief of Staff: Field Marshal William Mecklenholtz
Army Chief of Air Staff: Colonel General Chadwick Reynolds
Chief of Naval Operations: Grand Admiral Teran Suthonang
Commandant of the Red Banner Marine Corps: Colonel General Tyler Rawthorne
Commandant of the Red Guard: Guards Marshal Kirsten Reid
Commandant of the Red Guard Air Patrol: Guards General Michael Turwilliger
Commandant of the Red Banner Coast Guard: Guards Admiral Richard Forsythe
Secretary of State: Cde. Rilir Alarion nos Carthir (Greenwood Coalition)
Secretary of the Interior: Cde. Elaine Williams (Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Labor: Cde. Lucius Sistercius (Noble Revolutionary Party)
Secretary of Energy: Cde. Christine Holtzdel (Greenwood Coalition)
Secretary of Transportation: Cde. Jack Roland (Social Democratic Party)
Secretary of Agriculture: Cde. Thomas Flathoof (People's Revolutionary Party)

Defense Budgets By Year:
2010: 11% of GDP ($2,789,701,205.5 USD)
2011: 14% of GDP ($3,550,528,807 USD)

Wagdoggie Red Army: ~30,000 Personnel in...
Organized by State into numbered Field Armies; only one being more than a paper headquarters at present. Plans are afoot for at least a Second Army, but this will require either local heavy weapons production or massive arms buys from the United States if the present American equipment standard is to be maintained. In more common terms, a Wagdoggie "Field Army" usually equals a Canadian "Division Group" or "Brigade Group" in strength; numerically and qualitatively.
Army GHQ (Tailville DR)
First Army HQ (Port Moresby, Papua.)
Various Branch Corps (e.g. I Infantry Corps, I Armored Corps, &c.) per army, altogether totalling in First Army's case...
16 Infantry Battalions (Minus one detached to Guam as its garrison, and likewise minus one detached to Bougainville as Tailville DR's garrison under Army GHQ.)
3 Airborne Battalions (SOF-capable, to about US Army Rangers' standard.)
1 Armored Battalion (30 M-1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks)
1 Armored Cavalry Squadron (25 LAV-25 Amphibious APCs)
9 Artillery Battalions (30 155mm M-198 howitzers, various ex-Indonesian pieces....)
5 Air Defense Artillery Battalions (8 MIM-23 HAWK, # Avenger, 45 FIM-92 Stinger SAM systems)
5 Engineer Battalions
5 Service Battalions (710 Trucks; 489 M923 medium trucks and 121 Mk.48 Logistics Vehicle Systems heavy trucks.
5 Maintenance Battalions

Wagdoggie Red Guard: 50,000+
Tasked with both police and militia duties throughout the various States, and just short of equalling two years' conscript classes in terms of overall strength. Can be raised to three years' equivalent (75,000+) on partial and four years' equivalent (100,000+) on full mobilization. Organized into numbered state Corps, each divided into as many local Battalions as needed to garrison the state effectively.

Wagdoggie Red Army Air Force: ~5,000
Arguably the real power behind the Red Army, considering its shortage of mechanized assets; and organized as a semi-independent service under the Army Department. Also performs battlefield aviation tasks most nations reserve for Army Aviation proper, which doesn't exist in Wagdog because the air force technically is "Army Aviation." Technically...
Air Force GHQ (Tailville DR; ~1,000)
1st Air Force (Andersen AFB, Guam; ~4,000)
Assets formerely of and attached to the (then) 36th Base Wing and 7th Air Expeditionary Wing, USAF during 2004; including...
6 B-1B Lancer strategic bombers, formerly of the USAF 7th Bomb Wing
6 B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers, formerly of the USAF 5th Bomb Wing (Sold, no longer in service.)
21 F-15E Strike Eagle strike fighters, formerly of the USAF 90th Fighter Squadron
18 F-16CG/DG Fighting Falcon multirole fighters, formerly of the USAF 18th Fighter Squadron
18 A/OA-10A Thunderbolt II attack fighters, formerly of the USAF 355th Fighter Squadron
18 C-130H Hercules tactical transports, formerly of the USAF 517th Airlift Squadron
3 C-12F/J Huron liaison transports, also formerly of the 517th
4 KC-135R Stratotanker aerial tankers, formerly of the 168th Air Refuelling Squadron
1 E-3B Sentry AWACS aircraft, formerly of the USAF 962nd Airborne Air Control Squadron
18 AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters, formerly of the USMC...
24 CH-53E Super Stallion transport helicopters, formerly of the USMC...
Altogether comprising some...
2 Fighter Squadrons
2 Bomber Squadrons (1 inactive pending re-equipment or conversion)
1 Attack Squadron
1 Transport Squadron
1 HQ Squadron
1 "Air Cavalry" Helicopter Squadron
1 Transport Helicopter Squadron

Wagdoggie Red Guard Air Patrol:
OOC: TBA

Wagdoggie Red Banner Navy: (~3000)
Principally a trade defense/interdiction and transport force at the moment, though warship acquisition is being contemplated.
Navy GHQ (Tailville DR.)
1st Fleet HQ (Apra Harbor, Guam)
2 Warrior/Sa'ar IV class PGG's
UWS Granma II, formerly the Rhodesian Navy's SAS...
UWS La Poderosa III, formerly the Rhodesian Navy's SAS...
2 Los Angeles class SSNs
SSN 705 UWS City of Tailville DR, formerly USS City of Corpus Christi
SSN 711 UWS Port Moresby, formerly USS San Francisco (Seized upon Wagdog's revolution in 10/2004, thus never ran aground and damaged itself in January of 2005 as far as The People's Earth's timeline is concerned.)
3 Daphne class SSKs
UWS Iskra, formerly the Rhodesian Navy's SAS...
UWS Daily Worker, formerly the Rhodesian Navy's SAS...
UWS Morning Star, formerly the Rhodesian Navy's SAS...
5 T-AK 3008 AMSEA class maritime prepositioning ships
T-AK 3009 MV PFC DeWayne T. Williams
T-AK 3010 MV 1st Lt. Baldomero Lopez
T-AK 3011 MV 1st Lt. Jack Lummus
T-AK 3012 MV Sgt. William R. Button
T-AK 3016 MV LCpl. Roy Wheat
2 T-AK 5089 Lt. Col. Calvin P. Titus class maritime prepositioning ships
T-AK 5089 MV Lt. Col. Calvin P. Titus
T-AK 5091 MV SP5 Eric G. Gibson
T-ACS 4 Gopher State
T-AK 5029 MV Cape Jacob
T-AOT 9101 SS Petersburg
HSV-4606 WestPac Express
8 LCM-8 class landing craft
2 Balikpapan class landing craft
L-131 Salamua
L-132 Buna


Wagdoggie Red Banner Marine Corps: ~9,000
Organized under the Navy Department as a semi-independent service, rather like the USMC many might consider its parent; and also tasked with all Naval Aviation, as well as the usual expeditionary warfare and special operations duties.
Corps GHQ (Tailville DR; ~500)
Red Banner Marine Commando Division (~4,000)
1-3 CLT Commando Landing Teams (Port Moresby, Jayapura, Apra Harbor; each 1,200 strong for 3,600 total. Wagdoggie "Commando Landing Teams" basically equal a USMC Battalion Landing Team, but with certain ancillary support equipment and training to provide some SOF capability.)
Red Banner Special Boat Squadron (SPECSRON; ~500)
1-3 SPECDIVs, Red Banner Special Boat Squadron (Port Moresby, Jayapura, Apra Harbor; ~350)
109 AAAV-7A1 Amphibious Assault Vehicles, formerly of the USMC...
Red Banner Marine Air Wing (~4000)
VMGR(T)-HQ Headquarters Transport/Tanker Squadron
5 EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare aircraft, formerly of the USMC...
12 KC-130 Hercules multirole tanker/transports, formerly of the USMC...
VMFA(AW)-1 Figher/Attack Squadron
18 F/A-18C/D Hornet multirole fighters, formerly of the USMC...
VMFA(AW)-2 Fighter/Attack Squadron
18 F/A-18C/D Hornet multirole fighters, formerly of the USMC...
VMA-3 Attack Squadron
20 AV-8B Harrier V/STOL multirole fighters, formerly of the USMC...
HMM-4 Helicopter Squadron
14 MH60S Knighthawk multirole utility helicopters, formerly of US Navy HSC-25
HMM-5 Helicopter Squadron
12 CH-46E Sea Knight assault helicopters, formerly of the USMC...

Wagdoggie Red Banner Coast Guard: ~1500
Coast Guard HQ (~300)
Coast Guard Air Patrol (700)
9 UH-1N Iroquois utility helicpoters, formerly of the USMC...
Coast Guard Customs Fleet (500)
15 Pacific class PBs, formerly of the various Pacific island states' navies or coast guards.

Ranks and Arms of Service:
Army/Army Air Force/Red Banner Marine Corps: Generally follows 1940-43 Soviet pattern, but local modifications exist. All colors are pastelized and enamelled badges become black plastic when worn on BDUs as an anti-sniper precaution. Piping also disappears on the BDUs, but is included here for general reference.
Arms of Service: Infantry (Raspberry Red with same piping), Cavalry (Royal Blue with black piping), Artillery (Black with Red piping), Armor (Black with Red Piping), Engineers (Black with Blue Piping), Chemical (Black with same piping), Aviation/Airborne (Sky Blue with same piping) Service (Green with Red piping), Medical/Legal/Generals/General Staff (Red with same piping)
Ranks:
Enlisted: Private (1 red dash across collar patch)>Senior Private (2 dashes)>Lance Corporal (3 dashes)>Corporal (solid line across patch)
NCO: Sergeant (1 triangle on solid line across collar patch)>Staff/Gunnery Sergeant (2 triangles)>Master Sergeant (3 triangles)>Sergeant Major/Master Gunnery Sergeant (4 triangles)
Company Officers: Subaltern/Cornet/Brigadier (1 red/gold square on blank collar patch with gold edging), Second Lieutenant (2 squares), 1st Lieutenant (3 squares), Captain (4 squares)
Field Officers: Staff Captain (1 red/gold vertical bar on blank collar patch with gold edging), Major (2 bars), Lieutenant Colonel (3 bars), Colonel (4 bars)
Flag Officers: Brigadier General (1 gold star on blank collar patch with gold edging), Major General (2 stars), Lieutenant General (3 stars), Colonel General (4 stars)
Supreme Officers: Vice Marshal (5 stars), Field Marshal (1 large gold star crowned with a wreath of grain, the stalks being a hammer on the left and sickle on the right)
OOC: Still can't find reliable sources for 1940-43 Navy ranks, but I'm looking. Navy rank comments TBA. More in general will also be added on a regular basis in edits.
Kazkahstania
26-01-2007, 15:27
To: Wagdoggie Diplomatic Sector
From: State International Trade Advisor Chris Hani

Due to our close ideological views (we are both Socialist) and concerned views upon FPU's expansionistic traits, it has been found by me, my advisors and the Head of State that a closer relationship between our two geographically and sociologically linked nations should be forged.

For now, as all things start, we should focus on business, we feel, until it is seen how the international community is at this time. However, if the international state seems to become more extreme, closer bonds should be forged. For now, I propose:

A Joint Stock Market between our nations, based on Johannesburg
Embassies in each of our capitals, Johannesburg and Tailville D.R. respectively
Trade Routes set up between our nations

Thankyou for your time, please respond soon.
Wagdog
26-01-2007, 18:50
To: Wagdoggie Diplomatic Sector
From: State International Trade Advisor Chris Hani

Due to our close ideological views (we are both Socialist) and concerned views upon FPU's expansionistic traits, it has been found by me, my advisors and the Head of State that a closer relationship between our two geographically and sociologically linked nations should be forged.

For now, as all things start, we should focus on business, we feel, until it is seen how the international community is at this time. However, if the international state seems to become more extreme, closer bonds should be forged. For now, I propose:

A Joint Stock Market between our nations, based on Johannesburg
Embassies in each of our capitals, Johannesburg and Tailville D.R. respectively
Trade Routes set up between our nations

Thankyou for your time, please respond soon.
From: Secretary of State Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council State Department
To: The Rt. Hon. Chris Hani, State International Trade Advisor, Rhodesian Socialist Union

We'd be most delighted to exchange embassies between your capital and ours, and regret only that business handling the many touchy expansions being put about by the imperialist nations even now prevented any earlier reply. It is good to hear from fuller comrades in the world revolution than I have so far, at last. And I say this as the proverbial 'Green in the Reds' House,' so you may imagine how happy Comrade General Secretary Horridus was when I shared your message of revolutionarty solidarity with him.
We would like to consider pooling our nations' stock markets in Johannesburg, as you ask, but must first request a more thorough statement of your economic statistics before definitively answering. We both stand to gain much, but much also stands to be lost as well; the pitfalls of 'market socialism' being as obvious as they are unavoidable, if the medium-term sustainability that eluded the late USSR is to be attained while a means of attaining full Communism is found, as in the Pan Asian Bloc's potential example.
Your third proposal, a full trade route, was already on our minds when we confronted the FPU about their naked ambition against Singapore. Might you have some telepaths in your government, perhaps? We have Elves and Vampires and suchlike among our citizenry, as I'm sure you're aware, but not in more than low single-digit percentages; and those are either static or falling due to low birth rates in each group for diverse reasons too numerous to elaborate here. Suffice it to say, we unconditionally approve of a trade route, and request your potential view of the FPU situation from the proverbial 'other side;' especially regarding the possibility of Persian intervention, to pursue whatever arcane interest their dogmatic goverment might see in the matter.
Sincerely and Joyfully,
Rilir Alarion nos Carthir of the Greenwood Coalition
Secretary of State
United Socialist States of Wagdog Revolutionary Command Council
Kazkahstania
26-01-2007, 20:06
From: Head of State Izen DeBeck
To: Secretary of State Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council State Department

Our economy is currently in a short term state of decline while our industry and agriculture grow, but this is purely for the next two years. After this, we sense a booming economy spurred on by the inproved industry. We believe that if everything is produced in nation with limited imports there is no need for a strong currency, even less so if the commodities being imported are from a fellow Socialist nation with a low priority on the economy.

Upon the issue of your small percentage groups, this is of little importance to us. A trade route would be beneficial to both our nations, producing open trade between our nations and allowing for imports and exports to travel cheaply, making both our nations stronger through communal growth.

Our views on the FPU are that if their expansionism continues, trade will be curtailed and certain measures imposed. Also, we believe that a more active approach would need to be taken, but militarily this would be hard to do due to our lack of Naval Power Projection. We are currently remedying this, but it would take several years.

Signed,

Head of State DeBeck
Kazkahstania
28-01-2007, 21:07
SIC:

From: Head of State Izen DeBeck
To: Secretary of State Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council State Department

We have very pressing concerns about the forceful invasion of the Phillipines by the Japanese, and the Imperialism displayed in the Western Pacific region in general. We also notice that you would be very worried, seen as you are stuck geographically between the FPU and the Imperialist Japanese.

We are asking your permission to periodically dock and refuel two Type 209 Diesel-Electric submarines and a Marine Replenishment Ship, which are being used as a Task Force to observe the Japanese Naval movements around the Phillipines.

On a more serious note, as we are looking to further our friendship, we were wondering if our two nations could be joined by a non-agression pact or as part of an alliance. We have several ideas of where this could lead, but first must get the initial aquaintances out of the way. Of course, we are both rapidly expanding nations, internally of course, and so we must move quickly technologically and industrially, as friends or allies, to stop the Imperialistic ways of other nations.
Wagdog
28-01-2007, 21:29
SIC:

From: Head of State Izen DeBeck
To: Secretary of State Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council State Department

We have very pressing concerns about the forceful invasion of the Phillipines by the Japanese, and the Imperialism displayed in the Western Pacific region in general. We also notice that you would be very worried, seen as you are stuck geographically between the FPU and the Imperialist Japanese.

We are asking your permission to periodically dock and refuel two Type 209 Diesel-Electric submarines and a Marine Replenishment Ship, which are being used as a Task Force to observe the Japanese Naval movements around the Phillipines.

On a more serious note, as we are looking to further our friendship, we were wondering if our two nations could be joined by a non-agression pact or as part of an alliance. We have several ideas of where this could lead, but first must get the initial aquaintances out of the way. Of course, we are both rapidly expanding nations, internally of course, and so we must move quickly technologically and industrially, as friends or allies, to stop the Imperialistic ways of other nations.

SIC:
To: Head of State Izen DeBeck, Rhodesian Socialist Union
From: Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie RCC Secretary of State
Although I am inclined to agree, since among my government I was the most forceful in objecting to Japan's actions, our Defense Secretary and General Secretary outmaneuvered me. They cited our lack of naval capabilities other than nuclear submarines, prepositioning/cargo ships, and some large landing craft capable of short-range oceanic landings. We could've waged a bombing campaign, but the IJAF is powerful and merely 12 bombers could only accomplish so much before being lost, however capable in the absolute sense they were. Plus, we cannot jeopardize our relations with the US, still Japan's declared ally despite the return of the very imperialism America onced defeated; out of what I can only guess is a knee-jerk anti-communist impulse on President Santorum's part. Most of our weapons are American in design and we wish to secure production rights for these as soon as affordable, as well as purchases to balance out our currently haphazard arsenal. This done, we can become more assertive as our internal consciences would prefer.
We accept your stationing of the subs at our ports when needed, but do try not to provoke the FPU and aggravate the Singapore situation before the conference even starts. Relatedly, might you be able to offer us some short or medium term naval options, such as purchase of older surface combatants you no longer intend to use or license construction of an agreed design you operate? My vampiric friend always likes new weapons, for it is part of the pseudo-aristocratic posturing he's engaged in as long as I've known him to build up a supposed "vampire identity," and I'm sure new ships would please him much in that regard. Especially given our legitimate need of them anyway. Hopefully any agreement in this can serve us well. Perish the thought of any aggression against you, my comrade, for despite having to flatter a throne in the short term we still stand for the Great Revolution overall. What sort of pact would you have in mind, keeping in concern our own delicate position and unbalanced capabilities at present?
Kazkahstania
28-01-2007, 22:18
From: Head of State Izen DeBeck
To: Secretary of State Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council State Department

We see where you are coming from with your concerns, we were mainly just after an efficient way to guage the extent of the Japanese and FPU offensive Naval power, since we need to designate naval spending for the next few years. We can still do the job, it just would have been easier with a place to dock and resupply.

The Pact we are after is a way to defend both our nations from any imperialistic wish-lists of the Capitalist agressors. We understand your concerns about being recently formed, and we can relate to this as well. An alliance would provide mutual defence between our nations, allow us to legally perform joint Air, Ground and Naval exercises and swap Military data. Of course, the economic and cultural gains between our nations would be great too.

As towards the naval vessel interest you have displayed, we have several available options for you.

Two Saar 4 Class Israeli Missile Boats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_4_class_missile_boat

Three Daphne Class Diesel-Electric Submarines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_class_submarine

*These could be modernised by Denel Industries before sale/dispatch*

We can also sell you the blueprints to the Valour Class Frigates, with a view to producing a first prototype within the year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valour_class_frigate

Since we are talking about Naval Capabilities, and your nuclear submarines, we were wondering if you could assist with a project we are aiming to complete by the end of the year. We have already constructed test nuclear reactors, but have yet to convert this into a Naval Capable form. Could Wagdog help us to create our first nuclear submarine? We are also seeking help from the US of A and the United Kingdom, and possibly Russia if they agree.
Dweladelfia prime
28-01-2007, 22:18
Some Military Information:
General Note: Upon Wagdog's emergence in October of 2004, despite not formally declaring independence from its islands' various occupying powers until July 4th 2005, all military equipment on those islands and those later joining the country was impressed into service. This included the temporary detention of several nations' military personnel, most of whom elected and were allowed to return home. Those that did remain, however, form the core of their various services to this day as full citizens and servicemembers of Wagdog.
The equipment seized is assumed to have been replaced by its original owners during the past few years, to re-equip those units both affected by the seizures and still in existence. Notable among the seizures were the equipment for a complete Expeditionary Wing of the USAF and Marine Expeditionary Brigade of the USMC; which were distributed to the newly-established Red Army, Red Army Air Force and Red Banner Marine Corps to form the core of their combat power to this day.

Wagdoggie Red Army: ~30,000 Personnel in...
Organized by State into numbered Field Armies; only one being more than a paper headquarters at present. Plans are afoot for at least a Second Army, but this will require either local heavy weapons production or massive arms buys from the United States if the present American equipment standard is to be maintained. In more common terms, a Wagdoggie "Field Army" usually equals a Canadian "Division Group" or "Brigade Group" in strength; numerically and qualitatively.
Army GHQ (Tailville DR)
First Army HQ (Port Moresby, Papua.)
Various Branch Corps (e.g. I Infantry Corps, I Armored Corps, &c.) per army, altogether totalling in First Army's case...
16 Infantry Battalions (Minus one detached to Guam as its garrison, and likewise minus one detached to Bougainville as Tailville DR's garrison under Army GHQ.)
3 Airborne Battalions (SOF-capable, to about US Army Rangers' standard.)
1 Armored Battalion (30 M-1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks)
1 Armored Cavalry Squadron (25 LAV-25 Amphibious APCs)
9 Artillery Battalions (30 155mm M-198 howitzers, various ex-Indonesian pieces....)
5 Air Defense Artillery Battalions (8 MIM-23 HAWK, # Avenger, 45 FIM-92 Stinger SAM systems)
5 Engineer Battalions
5 Service Battalions (710 Trucks; 489 M923 medium trucks and 121 Mk.48 Logistics Vehicle Systems heavy trucks.
5 Maintenance Battalions

Wagdoggie Red Guard: 50,000+
Tasked with both police and militia duties throughout the various States, and just short of equalling two years' conscript classes in terms of overall strength. Can be raised to three years' equivalent (75,000+) on partial and four years' equivalent (100,000+) on full mobilization. Organized into numbered state Corps, each divided into as many local Battalions as needed to garrison the state effectively.

Wagdoggie Red Army Air Force: ~5,000
Arguably the real power behind the Red Army, considering its shortage of mechanized assets; and organized as a semi-independent service under the Army Department. Also performs battlefield aviation tasks most nations reserve for Army Aviation proper, which doesn't exist in Wagdog because the air force technically is "Army Aviation." Technically...
Air Force GHQ (Tailville DR; ~1,000)
1st Air Force (Andersen AFB, Guam; ~4,000)
Assets formerely of and attached to the (then) 36th Base Wing and 7th Air Expeditionary Wing, USAF during 2004; including...
6 B-1B Lancer strategic bombers, formerly of the USAF 7th Bomb Wing
6 B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers, formerly of the USAF 5th Bomb Wing
21 F-15E Strike Eagle strike fighters, formerly of the USAF 90th Fighter Squadron
18 F-16CG/DG Fighting Falcon multirole fighters, formerly of the USAF 18th Fighter Squadron
18 A/OA-10A Thunderbolt II attack fighters, formerly of the USAF 355th Fighter Squadron
18 C-130H Hercules tactical transports, formerly of the USAF 517th Airlift Squadron
3 C-12F/J Huron liaison transports, also formerly of the 517th
4 KC-135R Stratotanker aerial tankers, formerly of the 168th Air Refuelling Squadron
1 E-3B Sentry AWACS aircraft, formerly of the USAF 962nd Airborne Air Control Squadron
18 AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters, formerly of the USMC...
24 CH-53E Super Stallion transport helicopters, formerly of the USMC...
Altogether comprising some...
2 Fighter Squadrons
2 Bomber Squadrons
1 Attack Squadron
1 Transport Squadron
1 HQ Squadron
1 "Air Cavalry" Helicopter Squadron
1 Transport Helicopter Squadron

Wagdoggie Red Guard Air Patrol:
OOC: TBA

Wagdoggie Red Banner Navy: (~3000)
Principally a trade defense/interdiction and transport force at the moment, though warship acquisition is being contemplated.
Navy GHQ (Tailville DR.)
1st Fleet HQ (Apra Harbor, Guam)
2 Los Angeles class SSNs
SSN 705 UWS City of Tailville DR, formerly USS City of Corpus Christi
SSN 711 UWS Port Moresby, formerly USS San Francisco (Seized upon Wagdog's revolution in 10/2004, thus never ran aground and damaged itself in January of 2005 as far as The People's Earth's timeline is concerned.)
5 T-AK 3008 AMSEA class maritime prepositioning ships
T-AK 3009 MV PFC DeWayne T. Williams
T-AK 3010 MV 1st Lt. Baldomero Lopez
T-AK 3011 MV 1st Lt. Jack Lummus
T-AK 3012 MV Sgt. William R. Button
T-AK 3016 MV LCpl. Roy Wheat
2 T-AK 5089 Lt. Col. Calvin P. Titus class maritime prepositioning ships
T-AK 5089 MV Lt. Col. Calvin P. Titus
T-AK 5091 MV SP5 Eric G. Gibson
T-ACS 4 Gopher State
T-AK 5029 MV Cape Jacob
T-AOT 9101 SS Petersburg
HSV-4606 WestPac Express
8 LCM-8 class landing craft
2 Balikpapan class landing craft
L-131 Salamua
L-132 Buna


Wagdoggie Red Banner Marine Corps: ~9,000
Organized under the Navy Department as a semi-independent service, rather like the USMC many might consider its parent; and also tasked with all Naval Aviation, as well as the usual expeditionary warfare and special operations duties.
Corps GHQ (Tailville DR; ~500)
Red Banner Marine Commando Division (~4,000)
1-3 CLT Commando Landing Teams (Port Moresby, Jayapura, Apra Harbor; each 1,200 strong for 3,600 total. Wagdoggie "Commando Landing Teams" basically equal a USMC Battalion Landing Team, but with certain ancillary support equipment and training to provide some SOF capability.)
Red Banner Special Boat Squadron (SPECSRON; ~500)
1-3 SPECDIVs, Red Banner Special Boat Squadron (Port Moresby, Jayapura, Apra Harbor; ~350)
109 AAAV-7A1 Amphibious Assault Vehicles, formerly of the USMC...
Red Banner Marine Air Wing (~4000)
VMGR(T)-HQ Headquarters Transport/Tanker Squadron
5 EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare aircraft, formerly of the USMC...
12 KC-130 Hercules multirole tanker/transports, formerly of the USMC...
VMFA(AW)-1 Figher/Attack Squadron
18 F/A-18C/D Hornet multirole fighters, formerly of the USMC...
VMFA(AW)-2 Fighter/Attack Squadron
18 F/A-18C/D Hornet multirole fighters, formerly of the USMC...
VMA-3 Attack Squadron
20 AV-8B Harrier V/STOL multirole fighters, formerly of the USMC...
HMM-4 Helicopter Squadron
14 MH60S Knighthawk multirole utility helicopters, formerly of US Navy HSC-25
HMM-5 Helicopter Squadron
12 CH-46E Sea Knight assault helicopters, formerly of the USMC...

Wagdoggie Red Banner Coast Guard: ~1500
Coast Guard HQ (~300)
Coast Guard Air Patrol (700)
9 UH-1N Iroquois utility helicpoters, formerly of the USMC...
Coast Guard Customs Fleet (500)
15 Pacific class PBs, formerly of the various Pacific island states' navies or coast guards.

OOC: More will be added on a regular basis in edits.

OOC: Were did you get all that US equpiment?
Kazkahstania
28-01-2007, 22:24
OOC:

He claimed some American territory in he claims, and therefore inherited the US hardware based there.

And can you check your embassy thread? I've ordered some kit, if thats alright.
Wagdog
29-01-2007, 06:05
OOC:

He claimed some American territory in he claims, and therefore inherited the US hardware based there.

And can you check your embassy thread? I've ordered some kit, if thats alright.

OOC: Were did you get all that US equpiment?
OOC: As Kazkahstania says, I captured it when my forces took Guam.:mp5: Some Indonesian equipment was also captured when Wagdog's new "Red Army" rolled into West Papua behind the Free Papua Movement's guerrillas at the time, catching the Indonesians napping too. All of these victories were nearly-bloodless, due to the extreme tactical and operational surprise achieved, and Wagdog allowed those captured personnel desiring so to return home by legitimate channels. Enough trained personnel and spare parts remained, however, to enable operation of the equipment by the middle of TPE's 2005; the key factor why Indonesia/America/France/&c. didn't come back to crush us like bugs before this scenario even began.
But it isn't a balanced force at all. I have only one armored battalion, albeit a good one, and so the army is more or less a garrison force alongside the Red Guard. I also lack a surface fleet suitable for more than coast guard work, but have two nuclear attack subs unlucky enough to have been homeported at Guam in late '04 TPE-time, more sealift capability than I can safely use unless those subs perform awfully well, and a positively psycho air force for a country of mine's size. All of it luck of the draw, too.
Wagdog
29-01-2007, 06:38
From: Head of State Izen DeBeck
To: Secretary of State Rilir Alarion nos Carthir, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Command Council State Department

We see where you are coming from with your concerns, we were mainly just after an efficient way to guage the extent of the Japanese and FPU offensive Naval power, since we need to designate naval spending for the next few years. We can still do the job, it just would have been easier with a place to dock and resupply.

The Pact we are after is a way to defend both our nations from any imperialistic wish-lists of the Capitalist agressors. We understand your concerns about being recently formed, and we can relate to this as well. An alliance would provide mutual defence between our nations, allow us to legally perform joint Air, Ground and Naval exercises and swap Military data. Of course, the economic and cultural gains between our nations would be great too.

As towards the naval vessel interest you have displayed, we have several available options for you.

Two Saar 4 Class Israeli Missile Boats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_4_class_missile_boat

Three Daphne Class Diesel-Electric Submarines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_class_submarine

*These could be modernised by Denel Industries before sale/dispatch*

We can also sell you the blueprints to the Valour Class Frigates, with a view to producing a first prototype within the year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valour_class_frigate

Since we are talking about Naval Capabilities, and your nuclear submarines, we were wondering if you could assist with a project we are aiming to complete by the end of the year. We have already constructed test nuclear reactors, but have yet to convert this into a Naval Capable form. Could Wagdog help us to create our first nuclear submarine? We are also seeking help from the US of A and the United Kingdom, and possibly Russia if they agree.
SIC:
We would be honored to accept your pact and offer of these fine vessels, since they shall serve well as a stop-gap measure to back up our meager Navy and the policies it only barely supports. And yes, license construction of the Valour class at Port Moresby, with your engineers' paid assistance to establish the right infrastructure needed, would be a good first step in enabling us to guard against any possible Japanese or Federal Pacifican treachery at sea. In return we will gladly aid you in developing SSNs, first with our own blueprints seized onboard the vessels we captured during our original uprising. We know the Japanese fear our bomber force, so now we must add a true surface and sub fleet to that so they honor their promises to us regarding conquered peoples' rights.
Let us know of your price, and we shall make what arrangements we can. Given the pending conference over Singapore, we believe we can lower operations safely if that must be done to pay adequately. Our thanks go out to you, comrades, in responding so quickly and generously.
Sincerely,
Rilir Alarion nos Carthir
Secretary of Defense,
United Socialist States of Wagdog RCC
Kazkahstania
29-01-2007, 17:32
SIC:

We beliece this is satisfactory, and thank you for these negotiations. We will begin refitting these ships as soon as possible, and believe they will be dispatched within 3 months, the exchange being supported by forces already in theatre.

As for the Valour class Frigates, we will dispatch several engineers by civil flights within the week, to begin on the infrastructure construction. With these engineers, several nuclear and naval experts will arrive to look at the blueprints you provide.

As for your large military order to the states, we request you consider our two field guns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G5_howitzer - 155mm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7_howitzer - 105mm

We will give these to you for a much better price than the Americans, and this is considering that these artillery pieces are soon to become United States standard models anyway.
Wagdog
29-01-2007, 18:09
SIC:

We beliece this is satisfactory, and thank you for these negotiations. We will begin refitting these ships as soon as possible, and believe they will be dispatched within 3 months, the exchange being supported by forces already in theatre.

As for the Valour class Frigates, we will dispatch several engineers by civil flights within the week, to begin on the infrastructure construction. With these engineers, several nuclear and naval experts will arrive to look at the blueprints you provide.

As for your large military order to the states, we request you consider our two field guns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G5_howitzer - 155mm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7_howitzer - 105mm

We will give these to you for a much better price than the Americans, and this is considering that these artillery pieces are soon to become United States standard models anyway.
SIC:
Your offer is appealing, especially given the known excellence of these pieces' performance. However, we can only consider this pending the outcome of our offer to the Americans, since we've already patterned the more basic spare parts needed to maintain our current guns, even if we can't produce complete guns themselves. Although the numbers involved are small, the M-198s being ex-USMC and the M-119 license being to provide an Americanized replacement for our M56 105mm pack howitzers in use as "infantry guns," we wish to maintain our current spare parts and general logistical base if at all possible.
Speaking of which, might you have some surplus of those M56 pack howitzers in stock? We'd gladly take them off your hands should you desire it, especially since at present the Red Guard has to use somewhat-inflexible mortars which we'd gladly trade as part of payment. Note we say "somewhat inflexible" only because mortars aren't direct-fire capable; or anti-tank capable either without special bombs for that purpose, which (naturally) we don't have.
This isn't a refusal of your order, since the Americans basically ignored our prior order with them and we're not unduly optimistic they'll bite for this one either. Just a deferral until the status of our order with them becomes clear. Our request for information on the pack guns stands in any case. Thanks again.
Sincerely,
Mario Iliescu
Secretary of Defense,
United Socialist States of Wagdog RCC
Kazkahstania
29-01-2007, 18:52
SIC:

That is fair enough. We understand your need for dedicated Artillery to co-exist with your current equipment, however it is unfortunate that your requests to the US have gone un-noticed. I would go to their embassy thread - it's buzzing with orders and would be the best place to get noticed.

Also, we don't have any American pack guns around at all, due to having produced out own high-quality guns for many years. However, if you ever need anything other to modernise your forces, be sure to consider us.

Good luck with your acquirements!
Wagdog
29-01-2007, 21:51
SIC:

That is fair enough. We understand your need for dedicated Artillery to co-exist with your current equipment, however it is unfortunate that your requests to the US have gone un-noticed. I would go to their embassy thread - it's buzzing with orders and would be the best place to get noticed.

Also, we don't have any American pack guns around at all, due to having produced out own high-quality guns for many years. However, if you ever need anything other to modernise your forces, be sure to consider us.

Good luck with your acquirements!
SIC:
Well, the pack guns were actually Italian, but became NATO-standard in the 60's and many are still around. But we figured it was a chancy effort, since South Africa's industry would've made them redundant as you say.
I'm pleased to report to you that the Americans aren't interested in licensing arrangements. Hence, we're open to your offer after all. Once we have sufficient guns produced, we aim to sell our ex-USMC pieces back to their ungrateful owners for some much needed cash. We don't know about the aircraft as yet, but I suspect that's been denied as well. We have a severe lack of ASW and Ground Surveillance aircraft; might you be able to help or know of a more reliable source than the US?
Kazkahstania
29-01-2007, 23:29
We can provide a deal for you at $450,000 per gun with the G7's, and $550,000 GV5's, including spare parts and delivery, with production rights for every type of ammunition with the gun.

Alternatively, the Production rights go for around $100 Million for both, and $10 Million for the ammunition. We would give them for less and we sound like the filthy capitalists we despise, however our workers only accept money worth something, due to a small nation that cannot withstand a true communist structure.

As for the aircraft, we have acquired just the aircraft. The British Nimrod MR4 fills your requirements excellently.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/nimrod/

It can perform Marine Recon, Anti-Submarine Warfare and ELINT roles, and would provide you an airframe that could perform all three roles, an anti-surface capabilities (it can fire Harpoon missiles) to assist your navy, and since it is only one airframe, it would cause less suffering upon your logistics. We have bought two recently from the British, and we are sure they would accomidate you too. (Send Candistan a TG).

As for the AWAC's aircraft, either ask for rights to the Russian A-50 AWAC's or buy a Sentry from America, as it unlikely you will build many of them.
Wagdog
30-01-2007, 21:16
We can provide a deal for you at $450,000 per gun with the G7's, and $550,000 GV5's, including spare parts and delivery, with production rights for every type of ammunition with the gun.

Alternatively, the Production rights go for around $100 Million for both, and $10 Million for the ammunition. We would give them for less and we sound like the filthy capitalists we despise, however our workers only accept money worth something, due to a small nation that cannot withstand a true communist structure.

As for the aircraft, we have acquired just the aircraft. The British Nimrod MR4 fills your requirements excellently.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/nimrod/

It can perform Marine Recon, Anti-Submarine Warfare and ELINT roles, and would provide you an airframe that could perform all three roles, an anti-surface capabilities (it can fire Harpoon missiles) to assist your navy, and since it is only one airframe, it would cause less suffering upon your logistics. We have bought two recently from the British, and we are sure they would accomidate you too. (Send Candistan a TG).

As for the AWAC's aircraft, either ask for rights to the Russian A-50 AWAC's or buy a Sentry from America, as it unlikely you will build many of them.
SIC:
Our 11% defense budget can certainly pay for licensing both (OOC: I'm using my NSTracker percentages by default, just with the RL GDP) field guns, and we thank you for not being extortionate about things as we suggest the Americans would've had they agreed to our offer. Your nation pays its people fairly for their labor, and therefore so shall we.
But again, we'll have to defer on the Nimrod offer, although it is highly regarded by us I can assure you, since we still haven't been clearly refused our offer to return those spare B52s we operate in exchange for some unused S-3B Vikings, one spare E-3B Sentry and (most importantly) two spare E-8C JSTARS planes. Ground Surveillance is our current 'holy grail' capability since our mechanized cavalry forces are meager and we must prepare for contingencies against Japan, the FPU, and even (worst case) America. Hence, we need all the standoff reconaissance data we can get before our tanks and LAVs get misused fatally somehow.
Given our possible need for ground as well as maritime surveillance, might the Nimord be modified for the JSTARS role if we could convince the Third British Empire to provide the radars and/or software? Might it also be profitable of us to perhaps correct the problems with the old Nimrod AEW.3 design and put that into production for both of our forces? If indeed Wagdog is to slowly divest itself of the Russian/American arms oligopoly, then we must be creative. Your thoughts are eagerly awaited, friend.
Kazkahstania
30-01-2007, 21:40
Ok, that order is confirmed then. We will be sending over a military A400M with the various plans, blueprints, some engineers and two working copies of each Artillery Gun. We hope you use them well.

We understand that trading those aircraft is probably a lot cheaper and more cost-efficient for your nation. However, the United States seems fairly inactive and unwilling to give you rights anytime soon - I sense that the only way we got an arms deal with them was by paying American Dollars.

We feel that the British may be slightly more relaxed in their approach, as the Nimrod is a slightly older aircraft. We, however, have a suggestion.

Due to our vast aeronautical industries constructed over the years (Denel Industries), we could perhaps purchase more Nimrod MR4's, upgrade some to a new AEW type, use existing American ELINT technology we own to upgrade several more, and sell them on to you for as cheap a price as possible.

Actually, we would suggest this route, as we would do the same for our own nation, binning some of our older aircraft. This would create a dual project for our two nations with us paying most of the costs, and ending up with a Multi-purpose Utility Aircraft for ASW, AEW and ELINT. How does it sound?
Wagdog
06-02-2007, 21:06
Ok, that order is confirmed then. We will be sending over a military A400M with the various plans, blueprints, some engineers and two working copies of each Artillery Gun. We hope you use them well.

We understand that trading those aircraft is probably a lot cheaper and more cost-efficient for your nation. However, the United States seems fairly inactive and unwilling to give you rights anytime soon - I sense that the only way we got an arms deal with them was by paying American Dollars.

We feel that the British may be slightly more relaxed in their approach, as the Nimrod is a slightly older aircraft. We, however, have a suggestion.

Due to our vast aeronautical industries constructed over the years (Denel Industries), we could perhaps purchase more Nimrod MR4's, upgrade some to a new AEW type, use existing American ELINT technology we own to upgrade several more, and sell them on to you for as cheap a price as possible.

Actually, we would suggest this route, as we would do the same for our own nation, binning some of our older aircraft. This would create a dual project for our two nations with us paying most of the costs, and ending up with a Multi-purpose Utility Aircraft for ASW, AEW and ELINT. How does it sound?
SIC:
That sounds superb, actually. We have other ideas regarding what to do with the bombers now. But instead of anything so complicated as above, what say you we simply open inquiries for both our nations' licensure of the Nimrod airframe, plus the MRA.4 and AEW.3 mission packages? Wagdog's plant for manufacturing these aircraft would ideally be in Manokwari, home to an industrious yet impoverished population, seeking only honest labor that enhances their lives instead of raping their land for the sake of imperialists abroad. This plant would give them that chance many times over, as we make Manokwari home to our own full aviation industry in due time.
We know the benefit to both of our economies from this venture would be large indeed (since your industry could of course buy from ours for a fair, bargain price; and operate here with the same privileges as our own State industries as well should you wish), but perhaps you could estimate more precisely the growth these two deals might spur for us on a yearly basis? And perhaps the growth from our other deals so far as well? Production of what you've offered us is about to commence thanks to your gracious help, ideally in time to incorporate the resulting growth into our budget projections.
Together, we could afford to debug the Nimrod AEW.3's faulty systems and render it a working design. Britain already uses E-3D Sentries from the US, so I wouldn't be surprised if they'd happily be rid of the "redundant" AEW.3 variant Nimrod Let's take advantage of this typically imperialist oversight before they either come to their senses or dispose of the design irretrievably out of sheer laziness.
AK-108s
13-02-2007, 15:52
The United Stani Provinces would like to form a peace treaty with your nation, we fight for similar causes, and I believe that we can form a strong alliance together.
Wagdog
13-02-2007, 16:02
The United Stani Provinces would like to form a peace treaty with your nation, we fight for similar causes, and I believe that we can form a strong alliance together.
Excellent. We'd welcome an embassy of yours in Tailville DR, our capital. However, where's your capital exactly, so we might set up an embassy there too?
AK-108s
13-02-2007, 17:41
Excellent. We'd welcome an embassy of yours in Tailville DR, our capital. However, where's your capital exactly, so we might set up an embassy there too?

Our capital is in the recently built city of the United Stani Provinces, known as Bakalakadahkastan. You will have the honor of being the first nation to have an embassy built in our nation! We are Honored. And we gladly accept your invitation to your embassy.
AK-108s
21-02-2007, 13:49
OOC: This is just a quick thought, but are the Were-People kind of like those creatures from The Island of Doctor Morreau?
Wagdog
21-02-2007, 14:05
OOC: This is just a quick thought, but are the Were-People kind of like those creatures from The Island of Doctor Morreau?
OOC: Yeah; technically they were always here in Wagdog, since we found a mad scientist's lab on (then-)Bougainville where he created the initial seed animals using Alchemy, along with our Chimeras (the national animal). We didn't know the extent of the changes at the time, but those viable hybrids that we didn't have to humanely put down and could release into the wild instead, clued us in when they came back some two years later in human or half-human adult forms.
Seeing no other choice, we granted them all basic rights of citizenship; plus some peculiar 'allowances' to keep accidental maulings or such under control. For example, predatory werepeople (werewolves, were-tigers, &c.) tend to buy whatever green space they can on their property; that way they'll have somewhere to hunt when the full moon comes around, or else they'll just hunt the national parks as they're allowed to by law. Mostly they just try to get by like everyone else, and as you can see three of our highest officials are werepeople; bureaucrats by day, predators (and one a strict herbivore) by fortnight.
Kopparbergs
23-02-2007, 20:01
OOC: Wagdog and Kazkahstania, check TG's...