NationStates Jolt Archive


International City Being Sold

Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 07:06
The city formerly known as Mandali ios being renamed International City. This city, which covers a total of 12,583 square miles, or nearly 3 times the size of Los Angeles, is being sold off, with no more than 500 square miles being sold to any individual city. This city is located in central Al Ramir in the desert. The city capital buildings, as well as the airport currently under construction, will remain under Al Ramiri control.

While you have mostly soveign control of your area, you will be required to obey certain laws put down by the city government, or you may be forcefully removed.

Among those rules requires all countries owning parts of International City to remain peaceful with eachother within city borders. Also, there is a wall being constructed around the city with gates. People leaving the city within your control must have a passport to enter Al Ramir.

We also must inform you that all Al Ramiri citizens residing within city limit are allowed to stay at their current place of residence and will retain their Al Ramiri citizenship. While they will obey your laws, you may not stop them from practicing their Islamic faith. They are also free to move into Al Ramir controlled territory at any time.

Roads will be the dividing borders between the districts of this city own by various nations, and those roads acting as borders are under Al Ramir control. Should any violence take place on these roads, they will be tried by the Al Ramiri court and held in Al Ramiri jails.

You may purchase in 50 square mile pieces, each 50 square mile costing $30 billion USD. The extra 33 square miles will be cost an additional $25 billion USD.

8,483 square miles left -
ICCD-Intracircumcordei - 500 square miles
ViZion - 500 square miles
Skgorria - 500 square miles
Ra and - 500 square miles
The Aeson - 500 square miles
Eurasia - 500 square miles
ICCD-Intracircumcordei - 500 square miles
Asgarnieu - 500 square miles
Nechronia - 100 square miles

International City Law
In accordance with Islamic law, no controller may forbid any Islamic residence of Al Ramiri citizenship from practicing Islam.
No controller may force Al Ramiri citizens to leave their home.
No fighting between nations within city limits.
Streets at the edges of the sections are considered borders and are thus under Al Ramiri control.
Should any laws of Al Ramir be broken on these Ali Ramiri controlled streets be broken, they will be tried and held in Al Ramir.
We will forcefully remove you if any laws of International City are broken if necessary.
imported_ViZion
20-01-2007, 07:11
We will purchase 500 square miles for $300 billion USD. We will need to transport a total of 5 million people ASAP from our claims in Africa to our claim in the International City ASAP.

Thank you.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 07:13
We will purchase 500 square miles for $300 billion USD. We will need to transport a total of 5 million people ASAP from our claims in Africa to our claim in the International City ASAP.

Thank you.
This is accepted. You may transport them when you wish.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
20-01-2007, 07:25
ICCD will purchase 500 sq miles.

assuming the purchase is ok.

ICCD's first steps will be to create an annual property tax of 28$/ sq foot of property owned for use of any land in the Dian quarter.

ICCD's second measure will be to establish jobs for new sanitation and other infrastructure works projects within the quarter as welll as an urban revitalization project. ICCD also plans on implementing new Dian style living arangements.


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If a general property tax is not allowable, we are not interested in the land.
imported_ViZion
20-01-2007, 07:29
President Kilo sent an emergency message off to Husaam Udeen Aghu of Al Ramir.

We request the ability to begin emergency evacuation of our civilians into your territory until we can fight off our aggressors. For this deed, your nation will recieve a bonus of $1 trillion USD, never to need to be repaid.

We also request the ability to set up a temporary control center for part of our resistance forces.

Please respond to us immediately. Thank you.

President Kilo
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 07:30
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12231086']ICCD will purchase 500 sq miles.

ICCD's first steps will be to create an annual property tax of 28$/ sq foot of property owned for use of any land in the Dian quarter.

Your cost will be $300 billion USD. Should you agree, we will confirm.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 07:35
President Kilo sent an emergency message off to Husaam Udeen Aghu of Al Ramir.

We request the ability to begin emergency evacuation of our civilians into your territory until we can fight off our aggressors. For this deed, your nation will recieve a bonus of $1 trillion USD, never to need to be repaid.

We also request the ability to set up a temporary control center for part of our resistance forces.

Please respond to us immediately. Thank you.

President Kilo

OOC: It's AGHA, not Aghu.
IC:
Husaam Udeen read over the message from the apparently desperate ViZionarian President Kilo. After talking it over with his officers, the decision was made. $1 trillion dollars could do alot. And helping out a massive nation with apparently alot of power and commanding alot of respect could also do wonders for this nation. It would be done.

President Kilo! This is Husaam Udeen Agha, Ruler of Al Ramir. We have heard your plea's for help, and as such, we are willing to commomadate your requests. You may begin your emegency evacuations immediately, and we welcome your temporary command post.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
20-01-2007, 07:35
Your cost will be $300 billion USD. Should you agree, we will confirm.

If there is no issue with the property tax then that should be fine assuming $NS=USD.

We will start the construction projects on our quarter. I'm not sure if you have a map or greater discription available so that terraforming / adapting to the conditions can be better planned, as we would like to make the land value well worth the $28 / sq ft. for any residences or busiensses. We plan on establishing solar harvesters if the desert is an appropriate climate. as well as implmeentng a number of other urban desert technologies, including silicate foundries.

We will also be constructing a new mosque for any residents that decide to stay with us.

------ The next Dian proclaimation will be A sunrise sundown curfew - 15 minutes before and after the sun times failure to obey the curfew will bring a fine of $50 on first warning and incrementing $10 every subsequent fine to a maxmimum of $1000. Failure to pay the fine within 30 days will result in personal property seizure of the same value.

Any breaches of muslim law are to be covered by a bilaw stating that depending on the nature of the act a fine must be paid to the Dian Mosque, for instance drinking of alcohol within the quarter without special waiver will hold a fine of $50 made payable to the Dian mosque.

Failure to pay the fine or have items of seizure will result in one day / $50 owed of indentured labour (with food and water and sleeping arangements covered). These actions are to be civl acts and not an attempt to file 'criminal charges' instead they will be religious and civil violations, which will vary except in the most servere violations, to which criminal charges may exist. However a fine may be pressed prior to pressing of criminal charges, and thus in some cases extradition to external criminal courts.

The Dian Court in the International City will be a civil court.

A full list of new bylaws will be posted.


A civil defence force will be staffed by Dian security Officers, these officers will have the capacity to enforce order within the Dian Quarter, in the case of a civil disagreement between a civil security officer and any other person, the person will be brought to the Quarters Mujtahid


All Fatwa's issued in the Dian Quarter will hold presidence over all other fatwas in respect to the Dian Quarter


An tarrif/levy will be raised on all Kurr Water leaving the quarter, if it enters for any reason and is transported out by someones actions All najis water will be collected in the proper receptiacals, najis water leaving the quarter will be charged $1 per kurr size container/ammount. Kurr water leaving the quarter will be charged $5 / kurr.


Underkur water will be charged at 50% the rate of kurr water

Running water at 5 times the rate

rainwater will be charged at 2 times

well water at 3 times

mixed waters at 2 times




Private parts are to be concieled a $100 fine will be levied for exposure of ones private parts plus $1 paid to anyone who sees the private parts. A hand can suffice for conceilment All toilets are to be constructed neither facing nor directly away from the qiblaHaving a toilet facing away or toward the qibla will hold a $1000 fine plus removeal or turning of the toilet to be sideways to the qibla


A fine of $1000 applies for anyone who goes to the washroom in the following places:

* In blind alleys
* On any property that the taxpayer does not grant the use of the land to be a site of releif, in leaui of a taxpayer holding the property it will be deemed public land and thus by default off limits unless special permission is granted.

* At a place which is waqf unless explicit permission is given
* On graves and sacred places

In the case you do go to the washroom but the following circumstances exist, you must wash your bum with good water:

* if there is blood in your stool
* if a foul liquid contacts your but.
* you have a discharge of some sort not covered in the other two

a fine of $50 will apply if you do not. (note that if water is not avaialable a cloth or stone can be used in stead)

if these same circumstances exist for urine you must use water, a stone or clothe will not apply.

a fine of 50$ will apply if you use anything sacred to cleanse yourself, such as the quran use of bones will also carry this same charge.


a 20$ fine will apply to anyone who relieves themselves while carrying out one of the following activities or in one of the following places(except in emergency situations)

to face the sun or moon (unless privates are covered)
to sit while peeing
to stand while peeing
to pee on hard earth
to pee in an animal burrow
to pee in stationery water
to pee facing wind
to pee along streets/roads
to pee in front of door of a house
to pee under the shade of the fruit-yielding tree
to deficate while eating
to take a long time while defecating (this is using best judement of the circumstances)
to wash with the right hand your used areas
to talk while peeing or pooing

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imported_ViZion
20-01-2007, 07:47
OOC: It's AGHA, not Aghu.
IC:
Husaam Udeen read over the message from the apparently desperate ViZionarian President Kilo. After talking it over with his officers, the decision was made. $1 trillion dollars could do alot. And helping out a massive nation with apparently alot of power and commanding alot of respect could also do wonders for this nation. It would be done.

President Kilo! This is Husaam Udeen Agha, Ruler of Al Ramir. We have heard your plea's for help, and as such, we are willing to commomadate your requests. You may begin your emegency evacuations immediately, and we welcome your temporary command post.
OOC: oops, sorry. :)
IC:
President Kilo looked over the response. Very good... very good... he murmered.

Prepare to evacuate the civilians who have not taken up arms immediately! And get ALL children out of here! We also need to set up a camp there to help command this war!
Kesshite
20-01-2007, 07:51
I find this to be a very odd idea. How do the people who live in this city feel about being sold to a foreign power?

~Minister Havez
[Kayyat Province Seal]
Amestria
20-01-2007, 08:05
The Amestrian Deputy Vice Ministry of Foreign Affairs wonders aloud why anyone would wish to buy an ultimately worthless section of a foreign city that lays in middle of a desert wasteland.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 08:13
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12231103']If there is no issue with the property tax then that should be fine assuming $NS=USD.

We will start the construction projects on our quarter. I'm not sure if you have a map or greater discription available so that terraforming / adapting to the conditions can be better planned, as we would like to make the land value well worth the $28 / sq ft. for any residences or busiensses. We plan on establishing solar harvesters if the desert is an appropriate climate. as well as implmeentng a number of other urban desert technologies, including silicate foundries.

We will also be constructing a new mosque for any residents that decide to stay with us.

------ The next Dian proclaimation will be A sunrise sundown curfew - 15 minutes before and after the sun times failure to obey the curfew will bring a fine of $50 on first warning and incrementing $10 every subsequent fine to a maxmimum of $1000. Failure to pay the fine within 30 days will result in personal property seizure of the same value.

Any breaches of muslim law are to be covered by a bilaw stating that depending on the nature of the act a fine must be paid to the Dian Mosque, for instance drinking of alcohol within the quarter without special waiver will hold a fine of $50 made payable to the Dian mosque.

Failure to pay the fine or have items of seizure will result in one day / $50 owed of indentured labour (with food and water and sleeping arangements covered). These actions are to be civl acts and not an attempt to file 'criminal charges' instead they will be religious and civil violations, which will vary except in the most servere violations, to which criminal charges may exist. However a fine may be pressed prior to pressing of criminal charges, and thus in some cases extradition to external criminal courts.

The Dian Court in the International City will be a civil court.

A full list of new bylaws will be posted.


A civil defence force will be staffed by Dian security Officers, these officers will have the capacity to enforce order within the Dian Quarter, in the case of a civil disagreement between a civil security officer and any other person, the person will be brought to the Quarters Mujtahid


All Fatwa's issued in the Dian Quarter will hold presidence over all other fatwas in respect to the Dian Quarter

We have no problem with anything except for the fines should there be "breach" of law due to religious beliefs. While we do not forsee any major problems, we do not know of your exact laws, and as such there may be a problem there.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 08:15
I find this to be a very odd idea. How do the people who live in this city feel about being sold to a foreign power?

~Minister Havez
[Kayyat Province Seal]

We wish to clarify our citizens are in no way, shape, or form being "sold" to any foreign nation. They are still citizens of Al Ramir, not another nation, they have the ability to leave this city at any time, and they are more or less living a life of someone with dual citizenship, except they are only citizens of Al Ramir.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 08:16
The Amestrian Deputy Vice Ministry of Foreign Affairs wonders aloud why anyone would wish to buy an ultimately worthless section of a foreign city that lays in middle of a desert wasteland.
This land is far from worthless. If this it worthless, so are cities such as Cairo, Los Vegas, and so many other cities located in desert-like areas.

Thank you,

Husaam Udeen Agha
imported_ViZion
20-01-2007, 08:31
This land is far from worthless. If this it worthless, so are cities such as Cairo, Los Vegas, and so many other cities located in desert-like areas.

Thank you,

Husaam Udeen Agha
I would have to agree. I don't see how, with some work, this cannot work out well. And, might I add, it is quite an interesting idea, having a large city split up into sections controlled by different nations. Very different indeed.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 16:20
Bump. Looking for more buyers.
Skgorria
20-01-2007, 17:17
We'll purchase 1,000 square miles for $600 billion
The Aeson
20-01-2007, 17:22
The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson wishes to purchase one thousand square miles for a price of six hundred billion dollars. We also wish to inquire as to the exact nature of the earlier mentioned city laws.
Atopiana
20-01-2007, 19:31
How much of this city will five trillion US$ get the government of Atopiana?
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 20:10
We are only selling 500 square miles to any one nation, a total of $300 billion USD.
Skgorria
20-01-2007, 20:12
$300 billion has been wired in return for 500 square miles
Ra and
20-01-2007, 20:18
The Federation would like to purchase 500 square miles for 300 billion dollars.
The Aeson
20-01-2007, 20:18
In accordance with the policy of the Al Ramiran government, The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson would officially like to reduce our purchase to five hundred square miles, although as a sign of friendship, we will still pay the original six hundred billion dollars.

We wish, however, to repeat our request for specifics on the city laws.
Al Ramir
20-01-2007, 20:45
In accordance with the policy of the Al Ramiran government, The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson would officially like to reduce our purchase to five hundred square miles, although as a sign of friendship, we will still pay the original six hundred billion dollars.

We wish, however, to repeat our request for specifics on the city laws.
All orders confirmed.

International City Law
In accordance with Islamic law, no controller may forbid any Islamic residence of Al Ramiri citizenship from practicing Islam.
No controller may force Al Ramiri citizens to leave their home.
No fighting between nations within city limits.
Streets at the edges of the sections are considered borders and are thus under Al Ramiri control.
Should any laws of Al Ramir be broken on these Ali Ramiri controlled streets be broken, they will be tried and held in Al Ramir.
We will forcefully remove you if any laws of International City are broken if necessary.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
20-01-2007, 21:23
We have no problem with anything except for the fines should there be "breach" of law due to religious beliefs. While we do not forsee any major problems, we do not know of your exact laws, and as such there may be a problem there.

Dian law is much different then the sharia law. ICCD sees the fining as a way to reinforce both a religious and economic morality within the Dian Quarter. The other option may be just to ban any unclean persons from entry, but felt that may inhibit residence in some cases.

The fining is a way of enhancing order. The other option would be tolls on use of the city and greater restrictions. Actually instances of the fines would be rare, hopefully. Arresting indivdiuals for breach of civil order is just too costly, so implacing a fine makes much more sense. It is not like we will be inspecting peoples anus's. But if there is disease or obvious reason for concern, a fine due to endangering the public makes natural sense. The fines on the toilet directions will not be accompanied by inspection, but would be part of the new building reglatory code, much like fines for firecode violations etc...

what are your grounds to not agreeing with the health and safety fines?


For dian law see the Dian Factbook. ICCD does not intend to implement Dian law in the international city at this time, but is grooming it's own version of economic sharia law. We will enforce sharia law to a certain extent.. any minor breaches of the sharia will be civily penalized, any serious breaches of the sharia will be turned over to your courts.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
20-01-2007, 21:30
We have no problem with anything except for the fines should there be "breach" of law due to religious beliefs. While we do not forsee any major problems, we do not know of your exact laws, and as such there may be a problem there.

Dian law is much different then the sharia law. ICCD sees the fining as a way to reinforce both a religious and economic morality within the Dian Quarter. The other option may be just to ban any unclean persons from entry, but felt that may inhibit residence in some cases. Dian law may be incompatible with your population to a certain extent due to the drastic and fundamental nature of Dian law (release, death, or exile)

The fining is a way of enhancing order. The other option would be tolls on use of the city and greater restrictions. Actually instances of the fines would be rare, hopefully. Arresting indivdiuals for breach of civil order is just too costly, so implacing a fine makes much more sense. It is not like we will be inspecting peoples anus's. But if there is disease or obvious reason for concern, a fine due to endangering the public makes natural sense. The fines on the toilet directions will not be accompanied by inspection, but would be part of the new building reglatory code, much like fines for firecode violations etc...

what are your grounds to not agreeing with the health and safety fines?


For dian law see the Dian Factbook. ICCD does not intend to implement Dian law in the international city at this time, but is grooming it's own version of economic sharia law. We will enforce sharia law to a certain extent.. any minor breaches of the sharia will be civily penalized, any serious breaches of the sharia will be turned over to your courts.



Zakat for the city residence will be done at the Mosque that is being built. Proceeds from Zakat will be used for a Social Service program used at upgrading the cities public infrastructure such as sewage and water systems, and establishment of agricultural coops, grow programs, and extending the mosque run shelters and works program.

The mosque will also set up a pilgramige program. Where 1% of mosque proceeds will go to organizing charters to pilgramige sites. All Property owning members of the quarter will have access to this fund on approval of the first such pilgramige to a given site.

All employers must provide a break time during Salat times. As well as provide a prayer area. Disallowing a salat break will hold a fine of $1000 to the employer for each employee refused salat. This money will be put into an unemployment services fund. Salat time, while not required for non muslims still must be provided to non muslims. Non Muslim eployeers must still provide this time to muslim workers. A worker taking part in Salat is not legitimate grounds for dismisal.


Breach oof the Sawm or ramadan, will hold a $50 fine, if without valid reason, if a public breach. Some breaches may hold more serious penalities including criminal charges where appilcable with al rasir law.
Al Ramir
21-01-2007, 19:56
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12232578']Dian law is much different then the sharia law. ICCD sees the fining as a way to reinforce both a religious and economic morality within the Dian Quarter. The other option may be just to ban any unclean persons from entry, but felt that may inhibit residence in some cases. Dian law may be incompatible with your population to a certain extent due to the drastic and fundamental nature of Dian law (release, death, or exile)

The fining is a way of enhancing order. The other option would be tolls on use of the city and greater restrictions. Actually instances of the fines would be rare, hopefully. Arresting indivdiuals for breach of civil order is just too costly, so implacing a fine makes much more sense. It is not like we will be inspecting peoples anus's. But if there is disease or obvious reason for concern, a fine due to endangering the public makes natural sense. The fines on the toilet directions will not be accompanied by inspection, but would be part of the new building reglatory code, much like fines for firecode violations etc...

what are your grounds to not agreeing with the health and safety fines?


For dian law see the Dian Factbook. ICCD does not intend to implement Dian law in the international city at this time, but is grooming it's own version of economic sharia law. We will enforce sharia law to a certain extent.. any minor breaches of the sharia will be civily penalized, any serious breaches of the sharia will be turned over to your courts.



Zakat for the city residence will be done at the Mosque that is being built. Proceeds from Zakat will be used for a Social Service program used at upgrading the cities public infrastructure such as sewage and water systems, and establishment of agricultural coops, grow programs, and extending the mosque run shelters and works program.

The mosque will also set up a pilgramige program. Where 1% of mosque proceeds will go to organizing charters to pilgramige sites. All Property owning members of the quarter will have access to this fund on approval of the first such pilgramige to a given site.

All employers must provide a break time during Salat times. As well as provide a prayer area. Disallowing a salat break will hold a fine of $1000 to the employer for each employee refused salat. This money will be put into an unemployment services fund. Salat time, while not required for non muslims still must be provided to non muslims. Non Muslim eployeers must still provide this time to muslim workers. A worker taking part in Salat is not legitimate grounds for dismisal.


Breach oof the Sawm or ramadan, will hold a $50 fine, if without valid reason, if a public breach. Some breaches may hold more serious penalities including criminal charges where appilcable with al rasir law.
After talking this over with our officials, it has been agreed upon. However, any additional laws added in which would prohibit our people from practicing their Islamic beliefs will not be acceptable.
British Londinium
21-01-2007, 21:00
Eurasia would like to purchase five hundred square miles for three hundred billion USD. The money has been wired in advance.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
22-01-2007, 01:32
After talking this over with our officials, it has been agreed upon. However, any additional laws added in which would prohibit our people from practicing their Islamic beliefs will not be acceptable.

OH no our intent is quite the opposite we would like to make our section a muslim paradise, stickly enforcing social repercusions for breach of islamic ettiquette.

We may even give out free camels.
Asgarnieu
22-01-2007, 01:51
To: International City sellers
From: Asgarnieu
Subject: Purchase

Greetings. We wish to purchase 500 square miles for a total cost of $300 Billion USD. We have no preference of where our 500 square miles should be located, but, if available, we request either river-area or an area with canals. Thank you.

Respectfully,

Tara V. Morgan
City-State/Territory Purchase Coordinator
West Ariddia
22-01-2007, 02:01
The Al Ramir Combined Corporation, a conglomerate of West Ariddian companies, applauds this novel idea and would be very interested in purchasing 150 sq miles, with a view to kick start unimpeded economic development.

An area in which there are few regulations of any kind should provide profitable returns on this investment.
Al Ramir
23-01-2007, 06:36
The Al Ramir Combined Corporation, a conglomerate of West Ariddian companies, applauds this novel idea and would be very interested in purchasing 150 sq miles, with a view to kick start unimpeded economic development.

An area in which there are few regulations of any kind should provide profitable returns on this investment.

OOC: Al Ramir Combined Corporation?
Al Ramir
23-01-2007, 06:38
All orders have been confirmed!
West Ariddia
24-01-2007, 15:28
OOC: Al Ramir Combined Corporation?

OOC: That is what it would be called. If acceptable.
Nechronia
24-01-2007, 18:28
The Domination of Nechronia would like to purchase 100 square miles for the sum of 60 billion, with the funds to be transferred upon confirmation.
Axis Nova
24-01-2007, 18:40
Communique, Axis Nova Office of Foreign Affairs

We wish to purchase 500 square miles of land. We request that the land in question be zoned exclusively industrial if possible.
Al Ramir
24-01-2007, 20:50
OOC: That is what it would be called. If acceptable.

OOC: Wait, so you want to buy some of my companies?
Al Ramir
24-01-2007, 20:52
Communique, Axis Nova Office of Foreign Affairs

We wish to purchase 500 square miles of land. We request that the land in question be zoned exclusively industrial if possible.

It will be under your control, however should any heavy polution carry into other parts of the city under other nations controls, or into Al Ramir, you may be required to cut down on polution or face loosing your control without refund.
Al Ramir
24-01-2007, 20:53
The Domination of Nechronia would like to purchase 100 square miles for the sum of 60 billion, with the funds to be transferred upon confirmation.

Confirmed. Congratulations!
West Ariddia
24-01-2007, 23:22
OOC: Wait, so you want to buy some of my companies?

OOC: No. The Al Ramir Combined Corporation would be a conglomerate of West Ariddian companies. Choosing that name because of the location.