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War Declared on Laquasa OOC thread

Laquasa Isle
20-01-2007, 02:42
Try to keep clutter out of there. I'm about to go off to my brother's for the night.
Jaredcohenia
20-01-2007, 02:49
I'm not a commie.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 17:42
++um
b++++p
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 17:44
So what the fudgebrownies is going on w/ ICCD?
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 17:45
I'm not sure...

At a guess, he either A) hasn't read the thread or B) is RPing an insane government.
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 17:46
How long will you all keep a presence?

I've got a nice surprise for the Aunesian Exclave.....
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 17:49
*shrug*

On the one hand, I'm willing to leave once you have a government I feel is reasonable (AKA will do what I say, within reason).

On the other hand, my Military Subgovernor (FYI, he's the leading military officer in the area, and technically ruler of Nueve Barcelona under Occupation law, but not my national leader) will probably make the reasonable argument to the Laquasans that if Aeson pulls out before Clandonia, Clandonia will probably occupy Nueve Barcelona, and they don't want that now do they?
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 17:50
OOC:

60 years or until the Coalition believes her job is done.
Clandonia Prime
27-01-2007, 17:57
At least three weeks in RL due to how slow Laquasa posts and his posting quality is rather low.
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 18:11
What do you consider "Job done?"
Vontanas
27-01-2007, 18:18
What do you consider "Job done?"

OOC: Stable democracy, all rebellion gone, no treaty breaking, Emperor put on trial (not killed, but he has to go on trial), every Laquasan killed... oops.
Clandonia Prime
27-01-2007, 18:28
What do you consider "Job done?"

Well considering your population now fear me, my physiological warfare units are very pleased.
Vontanas
27-01-2007, 20:15
So, what's up with all these people only now going to 'save' LI? I think we've pretty much ignored ICCD, but what about Minderva or whatever? These people don't even realize that there isn't a war anymore. LI's surrendered to us, his resistance movement has stopped, and he's peacfully being occupied. I mean, if they don't read the thread, then they basically should be ignored, right?
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 20:19
I basically told Minderva that if at any point I consider him a threat, I will hurt his nation. If he wants to stay in his nation and declare war, fine, whatever, I got my quick easy victory to make the people happy. If he actually tries to bring the war to me...

And now he's sending money and military equipment instead...
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 20:24
Not by my watch.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
27-01-2007, 21:57
Not by my watch.

As stated I'm busy - and you guys have pretty much just ignored and shrugged off every valid action taken against you. Quite wank. As for no attacks etc.. was all the space, and naval strikes ignored? If so then the thread is pretty redundant.

No my government isn't insane in the least. By the sounds of it you are spending huge somes of money for the occupation of an island for no specific reason.
IMO you guys just are in some cases exercising wankery and bad RP ettiquette

You may be reciprocating kitty skinning but it is still no excuse. As for being obliterated, far from the instance you guys just have really weak RP and tend to use total Numbers wankery, although partially valid in this instance, you really are making no sense and using mass agreement to attempt 'a victory' when in fact you fail to accept the instance because it appears you are trying to protect the sucking of your own members.

anyway. As stated I'm busy, but the warning is there. If you choose to ignore my actions that is your choice but in my books you are lacking of any RP skill or any originality or interest.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 22:01
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12261207']As stated I'm busy - and you guys have pretty much just ignored and shrugged off every valid action taken against you. Quite wank. As for no attacks etc.. was all the space, and naval strikes ignored? If so then the thread is pretty redundant.

No my government isn't insane in the least. By the sounds of it you are spending huge somes of money for the occupation of an island for no specific reason.
IMO you guys just are in some cases exercising wankery and bad RP ettiquette

You may be reciprocating kitty skinning but it is still no excuse. As for being obliterated, far from the instance you guys just have really weak RP and tend to use total Numbers wankery, although partially valid in this instance, you really are making no sense and using mass agreement to attempt 'a victory' when in fact you fail to accept the instance because it appears you are trying to protect the sucking of your own members.

anyway. As stated I'm busy, but the warning is there. If you choose to ignore my actions that is your choice but in my books you are lacking of any RP skill or any originality or interest.


Now hold on. I've RPed out every action he's taken against me. His missile strikes on my navy, while not terribly effective, did manage to hurt my forces somewhat.

Likewise his mines, which probably would have hurt my navy more had he not surrendered, leaving me time to clear them at my leisure. See same for the mines on his beaches. What strikes against me have I ignored? Point out any military action I haven't responded to, and if it's something I just missed I will state my damage for it. Should you take action against myself, I will be perfectly willing to RP the ensuing battle/war/police action/unofficial military conflict/whatever.

If he doesn't want to RP a resistance against my forces, that's his decision. If he does, I will take reasonable action against him, not ignore it. So what exactly are you referring to?
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 22:17
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516075
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 22:17
I love the advertising. Nice touch.
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 22:20
Thanks. Seeing as you are the kindest occupier, my new Gov't might actually be slightly friendly towards you. When are you going to OK my Constitution, and when shall elections be held?
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 22:22
Why don't you guys color code my map to show who's occupying what?
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 22:24
As far as I know; Clandonia, The Aeson, and I occupy Laquasa Isle. The only attacks that I underwent were mines being used against my navy (50 ships sank and the crews aboard were killed) and the attempt to kill my leader (which was ignored). I see no "wank" in any of these actions, except if by "wank" you mean my Premier being a wanker.

ICCD, pardon my French, but I have no idea what the fuck you are doing? You come in and say I AM THE SOLE OCCUPIER OF LAQUASA ISLE when you clearly aren't-and decide that we're the ones "wanking."
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 22:26
I just am RPing that I occupy the main island of Laquasa. The Aeson has Conquista, and Clandonia has everything else?

Also, how can I make your occupation better? Would you like fries with that? :P
British Londinium
27-01-2007, 22:26
Laquasa Isle, where is your country, exactly? So I can figure out how long it takes for a Eurasian to get to Laquasa, for instance.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 22:27
I don't know about that. I appear to be just a Johnny-Come-Lately. You'd have to ask the people occupying the majority of your country. But yeah, that was basically the theory. Phase Seven is only to undertaken in the event of major resistance, and involves leveling Nueva Barcelona, but apart from that, things won't get much harsher.

Now, IICD, if I understand correctly, you're talking about you accepting LI's surrender first? Well, he never surrendered to you, IIRC. It would make no sense for him to, as you had no forces in the immediate area/were actually allied to him.

This would be akin to you invading me (should we assume you would be successful for the sake of the argument) me agreeing to surrender, and Jaredcohenia, simply by dint of replying first, becoming my sole occupier.

Edit: I got the whole island? I thought I was just occupying the city! Better get out and liberate those rednecks! :p.
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 22:28
Atlantic Ocean. Your in the pacific, so it'd be almost impossible 'cept by flight. I'm slightly annoyed by how fast forces from Russia arrived to the middle of the atlantic.
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 22:30
I just am RPing that I occupy the main island of Laquasa. The Aeson has Conquista, and Clandonia has everything else?

Also, how can I make your occupation better? Would you like fries with that? :P

Well, if Clandonia didn't rape randomn people it'd help
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 22:35
Atlantic Ocean. Your in the pacific, so it'd be almost impossible 'cept by flight. I'm slightly annoyed by how fast forces from Russia arrived to the middle of the atlantic.

Well, he could go around the tip of Argentina, through the Panama Canal (who controls that?) or isn't there some similar canal in Africa/Middle East?

Take him a while any which way, but it's possible.
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 23:03
Well, he could go around the tip of Argentina, through the Panama Canal (who controls that?) or isn't there some similar canal in Africa/Middle East?

Take him a while any which way, but it's possible.

Suez.

Also, ICCD, what the fuck are you doing now?
Julliman
27-01-2007, 23:05
ICCD, prepare for the destruction of your species by the Corporations Death Army.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 23:06
ICCD, prepare for the destruction of your species by the Corporations Death Army.

Um?
Clandonia Prime
27-01-2007, 23:08
Um?


That my friend, is the secret weapon the Clandonian Corporations new playground of Julliman.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 23:08
That my friend, is the secret weapon the Clandonian Corporations new playground of Julliman.

Ah. Puppet slip up?
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 23:09
Ah. Puppet slip up?

No, just a puppet in general. XD
Clandonia Prime
27-01-2007, 23:12
Ah. Puppet slip up?

Yes, that one is one of my countrys new private armys, except its got a population of 2 billion and is very nasty.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 23:12
Yes, that one is one of my countrys new private armys, except its got a population of 2 billion and is very nasty.

Yeah... that's a bit puppet wanky, eh?
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 23:23
ICCD, prepare for the destruction of your species by the Corporations Death Army.

What a freakin' puppet wank. Pull that and your part of the invasion never happpened.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 23:24
What a freakin' puppet wank. Pull that and your part of the invasion never happpened.

Anyways, if I were you, as I just said IC, I would ask the Dians to pull out. So far, your nation has avoided having a major war waged on it's soil, but that's likely to change should ICCD keep it up.
Jaredcohenia
27-01-2007, 23:26
Anyways, if I were you, as I just said IC, I would ask the Dians to pull out. So far, your nation has avoided having a major war waged on it's soil, but that's likely to change should ICCD keep it up.

What Aesey said. The Dians would most likely make the situation worse, the Jaredcohenian Occupied Zone is for the most part peaceful. If you guys keep this up, your curfew might get moved to 2000hrs :P
Laquasa Isle
27-01-2007, 23:26
Anyways, if I were you, as I just said IC, I would ask the Dians to pull out. So far, your nation has avoided having a major war waged on it's soil, but that's likely to change should ICCD keep it up.

Most of the population is inland.
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 23:27
Right... but unless he's only planning to liberate the coasts, I don't see your point.
Clandonia Prime
27-01-2007, 23:34
Right... but unless he's only planning to liberate the coasts, I don't see your point.

So hes planning to liberate the coast, well I just move back my fleets and go pwn?
The Aeson
27-01-2007, 23:37
So hes planning to liberate the coast, well I just move back my fleets and go pwn?

Long as you don't puppet wank, sure.

Incidentally, where on earth did you get a 2004 nation?
Clandonia Prime
27-01-2007, 23:42
Long as you don't puppet wank, sure.

Incidentally, where on earth did you get a 2004 nation?

*taps nose*
The Aeson
28-01-2007, 00:08
*tapes nose*

In your NOSE?!!!
Clandonia Prime
28-01-2007, 00:10
In your NOSE?!!!

I have no idea why I said tape.
Laquasa Isle
28-01-2007, 00:39
:p

"Government Statement
As of this moment, considering the human rights abuses commited by Clandonia Prime's military forces in Laquasa, considering Clandonia's warmongering nature, considering the negative image portrayed of the Sovereign League by Clandonia Prime, His Majesty's Government no longer recognises that Clandonia Prime is a member of the Sovereign League and we have taken all measures to ensure this nation is no longer tied to the SL under its current Government.

We apologise to the nation of Laquasa Isle for the actions taken by a Sovereign League state and secondly, we demand that Clandonia Prime pay reparations and make a public apology for the crimes comitted by its soldiers.
Hotaka Namuro,
Foreign Minister"


When all else fails, call in Questers!
Laquasa Isle
28-01-2007, 04:54
My old senate's still working...


You guys gonna' put in a new one ever?
Jaredcohenia
28-01-2007, 04:57
"You guys" was shortened to Aeson and I. I'll get someone else to do some occupation.
Vontanas
28-01-2007, 05:43
LI, how are you making SICs? Also, if you're going to be a Constitutional Monarchy, I suggest English style (Monarch=Ceremonial, Still Some Political Power). Remember why you were occupied in the first place? For diplomacy's sake, I don't want you turning back into an evil empire. Also, I suggest you let the occupation continue, but fast forwarded. Now that CP is dead, you have no problems really. It would be much better, diplomatically, if you didn't turn on Jaredcohenia, which would have serious diplomatic repercussions. And remember, if you go back to warmongering, you'll be inevitably attacked, again.
Clandonia Prime
28-01-2007, 11:52
"You guys" was shortened to Aeson and I. I'll get someone else to do some occupation.

Yes, you could always call in the Julliman Corporation.
Laquasa Isle
28-01-2007, 14:42
LI, how are you making SICs? Also, if you're going to be a Constitutional Monarchy, I suggest English style (Monarch=Ceremonial, Still Some Political Power). Remember why you were occupied in the first place? For diplomacy's sake, I don't want you turning back into an evil empire. Also, I suggest you let the occupation continue, but fast forwarded. Now that CP is dead, you have no problems really. It would be much better, diplomatically, if you didn't turn on Jaredcohenia, which would have serious diplomatic repercussions. And remember, if you go back to warmongering, you'll be inevitably attacked, again.

Well this was shortened a good three weeks. Vontanas, you can use SIC as long as you have SOME gov't. Its like declaring a war closed.
The Aeson
28-01-2007, 14:53
Chellis seems perfectly willing to occupy more of Laquasa Isle. I'd also like to point out that, although the Clandonian Government has been shut down, I'm not sure that his troops have actually left Laquasa Isle yet.
Clandonia Prime
28-01-2007, 15:12
Chellis seems perfectly willing to occupy more of Laquasa Isle. I'd also like to point out that, although the Clandonian Government has been shut down, I'm not sure that his troops have actually left Laquasa Isle yet.


They have now, who wants some troops from the Corporation?
The Aeson
28-01-2007, 20:37
If you mean some new mercenaries not puppet wanked from that nose nation of yours, I'm sure I could find some use for them, were any to escape to New Aeson.
Jaredcohenia
28-01-2007, 20:40
Well this was shortened a good three weeks. Vontanas, you can use SIC as long as you have SOME gov't. Its like declaring a war closed.

Keep in mind how I never said three weeks. I just said "60 years or until I deem fit."

Your SIC can't remain secret for long, you know. *picks up a telephone...*
Laquasa Isle
28-01-2007, 23:00
They have now, who wants some troops from the Corporation?


OOC:
You're not using a puppet in this particular RP just because you got annexed. I'll RP with you as Jumani, but not in the RP.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
29-01-2007, 02:29
Just to answer some basic statements

1. ICCD did claim all the the island, and was the first to respond in the thread to the terms of surrender
2. ICCD was in a common alliance with LI but that alliance did not invoke war activities to defend LI. ICCD is a socialist country with many sharing communist beleifs and as such LI anti communist stance deeply divided opinion in ICCD about actions to take. ICCD was intent on initially providing humanitarian aid, however, the 'invading' individuals did not allow that to happen, which caused even more disgust in the actions being taken. ICCD prior to the invasion.. actually nearly was going to attack LI itself.. but LI then joined the GIA .. which ICCD voiced against allowing entry of LI. (ICCD was 'agaist' LI prior to their joining in the GIA which then made it very difficult to attack LI .. without compromising the alliance.. even bearing then ICCD still demanded the surrender of LI to ICCD to prevent a bigger problem.
ICCD did not expect the invaders to agree but hoped that something could be salvaged, from an otherwise mindless occupation, done for no known good.

3. By the time that the footage against C.P. occured ICCD had repositioned a sizable fleet and positioned defensively, under the impression that the GIA might invoke the alliance stipulations and ICCD would be obligated to send assistance. Not waiting ICCD took it upon itself to remove Calandonia even at severe risk to itself. Due to Alliances and other considerations.. ICCD isn't able to safely engage the other occupiers at this time.

I can't specificly answer to comments but I'm not gonna waste my time on it.

So to clarify --- ICCD was in a common alliance.. but not 'an ally' ally at the time, as the common alliance didn't impose actions by the war council or otherwise to effect a response. ICCD spoke against LI's entry.. and nearly bombed it prior to your invasion. ICCD is acting on the benifit of all parties.. I didn't think you would accept but I thought I would offer the option, as the situation politically is rather dominoy.. so the logical response was to take the actions I took. As stated I'm busy with school, however if this thread stays alive you can expect me to be posting up with Dian developments
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
29-01-2007, 02:42
Suez.

Also, ICCD, what the fuck are you doing now?

Well when I attacked calandonia - you were also the secondary target.. as I couldn't find any alliances you were part of as to prevent the attack (which I felt might draw whyatica into it against me as well which might get ugly..

I though caladonia had ships.. if not you would have been targeted by railgun blast from about 245 km out. The aircraft were doing flyover attempting to draw missle fire (as part of a long term plan) and bombing any inland fuel or shipyard/port positions under your control..

in the second phase they were to attack troop pooling locations (however bearing air defence - air defence sites would come before .. but I expect maybe a few mobile mobile and personal air defence system at most considering the heavy targeting of LI's natural air defence sites and other military infrastructure.

Although if we are in a common alliance you wouldn't come under attack (but I think you pulled out of all our common alliances..)

so you may be able to assume you also came under attack... if you have a fleet.. by railgun at about 245km distance (12 guns (which would have fired approximately 400 shots in about 20 or so minutes (bearing that no air force attempted to knock out the ships with the guns)

I can get more info... but it may be slow going.. any question you have just ask.. try to get em all in tonight so I can write them out during the day and post them up when I get home if so.
Jaredcohenia
29-01-2007, 02:56
Am I being attacked-yes or no?
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
29-01-2007, 02:59
ICCD, prepare for the destruction of your species by the Corporations Death Army.

already at defcon 1


btw anyone not familiar with my rp style.. I only rp to the level of interest.. so if you are interested in an actual written attack ... etc.. rather than just an explanation of what occurs in general just ask.. and I'll write up the event in more detail (this saves me time with many different occurance where otherwise it would take countless hours to write out everything where 99% has little enjoyment.)

so for instance in this air sea etc.. event.. if you'd like to have the event written out such as a specific strike get me the details on your end I'll write out my end so it is cohesive then you can write the response etc..

there isn't that much information given but a lot to be assumed.. if there is some contest or point of deep interaction we can break down to writing out the event. In this case a general explaination feels alright until our force start parlee ing.. which may be soon.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
29-01-2007, 03:23
They have now, who wants some troops from the Corporation?

Sorta curious as to how they could leave with no navy?
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
29-01-2007, 03:27
Am I being attacked-yes or no?

--- If we arn't in any common Alliances Yes.

dum dum dum.

Any info you need just ask.

Like said, I can write out but it is pretty easy to fill in the blanks on my actions so far..
Jaredcohenia
29-01-2007, 03:32
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12266152']--- If we arn't in any common Alliances Yes.

dum dum dum.

Any info you need just ask.

Like said, I can write out but it is pretty easy to fill in the blanks on my actions so far..

I'm not in any alliance with you.
Porcelain Lawn Gnomes
29-01-2007, 03:38
I'm kind of new here. How do I make a thread?:headbang:
Jaredcohenia
29-01-2007, 03:58
I'm kind of new here. How do I make a thread?:headbang:

On the main International Incidents page, click "New Post" at the top. It's under USER CP.
The Aeson
29-01-2007, 23:05
My government's current stance is 'we will defend Aesonic forces and territories currently held by New Aeson', unless Jaredcohenia, as part of the Tripartite Pact specifically requests my aid.

Laquasa, regarding your remark that it's getting boring due to lack of RP, this is kind of on you. If you choose not to RP any sort of active resistance, protests, etc, there's not much the rest of us can do.
Clandonia Prime
29-01-2007, 23:06
And now you lost me who was the one adding such an exciting story!