NationStates Jolt Archive


Growing Over Population

Frenzia
19-01-2007, 02:27
Frenzia to Consider a Child Ban

The issue of an overpopulated Frenzia has once again been brought up in a council meeting.After growing pressure from the Frenzian Citizens Welfare Group,the council discussed options to reduce the population.Among the suggestions was a possible ban on having more that two children.This brought up the debate of what to do with the extra children.While the matter has not been discussed with the press,it is rumored that Frenzia may attempt to buy land and create a colony.


Message to Nations of the World:

We have a growing problem of over population in our nation.While we do not want to begin selling people to slavery,we would like some suggestions on what to do about this issue.We are also interested in buying land to create a colony.

OOC:I'm not selling my people or doing any barbaric killing,just looking for suggestions or some new land.
Laquasa Isle
19-01-2007, 02:30
We will sell some of our islands in the Kangarian chain, if you're interested. Awaiting reply.
Frenzia
19-01-2007, 02:45
From the Frenzian External Affairs Council:

We are interested however we need some details on the island's,climate,resources and so on.We would also like to know if we can be provided with a map.


OOC:I see the map in your sig but could you higlight the islands for sale.
Errikland
19-01-2007, 02:50
The lands of Arterus currently have extensive unclaimed territory; you, if our records are accurate, used to hold land in Arterus, and thus should already be familiar with some of the geography. If you are not, however, then we have many files on the area which should provide useful information (OOC ie: follow the link in my sig).
British Londinium
19-01-2007, 02:52
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3154/b099542e8a7142069cf926dxg8.jpg

Statement of the Government of the Britannic Commonwealth


The nation of Eurasia has a few lunar colonies that are available for purchase, and we would be more than willing to allow your nation to utilise these facilities.
Frenzia
19-01-2007, 02:52
OOC:While I know of the territory I was unsure if people still held colonies there.Also I was wondering about the state of things,.Are there still wars?British Londonium my nation really doesn't have an active space program.
Kesshite
19-01-2007, 03:00
Overpopulation is, in my estimation, a product of the corrupt and immoral practices of Industrial Fanaticism, which has become a world wide epidemic. Yes, today Frenzia finds a colony for its people. What about tomorrow? What about the next day? and the next?

Among the medical community, we call this treating the symptoms and not the disease.

~ Ambassador Raniyah
Atopiana
19-01-2007, 03:05
Just kill everyone over the age of 50, obviously.
Laquasa Isle
19-01-2007, 03:07
From the Frenzian External Affairs Council:

We are interested however we need some details on the island's,climate,resources and so on.We would also like to know if we can be provided with a map.


OOC:I see the map in your sig but could you higlight the islands for sale.

[OOC: My Paint is poccessed at this time.. *curses Microsoft's beta software* it's every of the southernmost layer of the Kangarians; some are too small to see.]

Currently these islands are of no use to us. Our mainland holds more than enough resources for a population several times our size. They are unpopulated- old airfields from the war of 1940 on a few hundred. Those for sale are good bits of land- temperate and those to the far west are tropical. Moderate climate- four seasons in the temperate islands.

Total Land for sale: 400,000 Square Miles
Total Islands: 1254
Major Recourses: Uranium, Oil, Coal, Diamonds, Emeralds
Population: 0
Terms: No nuclear plants are to be operated here. The islands will be under Frenzian protection. Laqian Naval ships and transports will be allowed passage.
Proposed Price: 2 Trillion USD
Frenzia
19-01-2007, 03:14
Message to Kesshite:

From The Frenzian External Affairs Council:

Our over population issue does not stem from Industrial Fanaticism.While our nation takes pride in its economic status we would not stoop so low as to ignore our peoples.Our over population issue comes from our high lifetime expectancy,93.8,an increase in sexual activity over the past ten years as well as the size of our nation itself.



Message to Atopiana:

From the Frenzian External Affairs Council:

We take pride in our human rights and would not resort to the barbaric killing of innocent civilians.



Message to The Lagian Government:

From The Frenzian External Affairs Council;

Although the offer you have provided us is a good one,we are more interested in purchasing a large chunk of single land.If you have anything that could suit our needs please let us know
Atopiana
19-01-2007, 03:14
The Ministry of Population amends its suggestion.

Kill all the ugly people instead. With time you can eradicate ugliness as a genetic trait.
Laquasa Isle
19-01-2007, 03:16
SIC:

Atopiana, a simpler and more diplomatical humanitarian solution would be to only draft old people!
Kesshite
19-01-2007, 03:17
The FEAC has given the standard company line but it holds up poorly to any serious intellectual examination. They are ignoring their peoples and they are ignoring social and ecological welfare.

What is the cause of this high lifetime expectancy? Are they saying that it just increased overnight and they just now noticed? As for increased sexual activity, and I have no desire to be crass, Kesshii sexual activity is nothing if not frequent. Do the men and women of Frenzia have no knowledge of contraceptives?

As for the size of their nation, a well-run nation is always the right size.

~ Ambassador Raniyah

((*chuckles at Atopiana*))
Siap
19-01-2007, 03:29
The Community, while large, still has the capacity to absorb more immigrants. In light of the current massive labor shortage, immigration restrictions have been vastly reduced, and The Community would be willing to accept anyone from Frenzia who desires to move to Siap.

~Alex Connor
Speaker
The Community of Siap
Laquasa Isle
19-01-2007, 03:41
We also point out that we mantain a very low population density, and are open for immigrants in other parts of our nation also.
Frenzia
19-01-2007, 04:51
Message To Kessite:

From the Frenzian External Affairs:

Our medical facilities are state of the art and medical and dental coverage is provided to our people free of charge.As for the knowledge of contraceptives,not much was known about sexual activity 30 or 40 years.As for the state of our sexual education now,we make a mandatory sex education class for grades 5 to 12.This class must be taken twice a year and is four periods in length.As for your well run nation is always the right size comment,I was refering to the total land mass,we are an island.


Message to Laquasa Isle and Siap:

From the Frenzian External Affairs Council:


We would prefer to keep our people under our own rule but if worst comes to worst we will consider it.
Kurona
19-01-2007, 05:15
To the Government of Frenzian

Kurona discourages you from limiting children to a two per house hold. Doing so will likely result in slaughtering females, and sever domestic abuse. This has happend many times around the world, and even in one Kuronan town. A decree was given that limited houses to two children (Something against Kuronan belifes) and it led to the worse cases of abuse we've seen. The child abuse rates skyrockted for females, domestic rape cases went up, it was a nightmare and the Government had to interveen.

Perhaps your problem lies in Sex Education. Abstinence is the best way to go, or otherwise strongly encourage the use of contraceptives. Otherwise expand legally into unoccupied territory, or sold territory.

Sincerly,
Princess Tomoyo Mikanu
Raven corps
19-01-2007, 05:23
Official Corporate letter:

My dear Frenzia... The one that got away. I hope you have not forgotten about us. Kraven did more then helpmy assualt upon your nation. They left us ifroug plans for their birthing centers. So our scientists have been modifing the plans and have been using them now for some time. The soldiers we have now are quite the buggers. Feel free to read about them in our website. but rest assured we have not forgotten about you.....


Signed Colderon Jason Zion-C.E.O.
Errikland
19-01-2007, 05:31
OOC:While I know of the territory I was unsure if people still held colonies there.Also I was wondering about the state of things,.Are there still wars?British Londonium my nation really doesn't have an active space program.

We still do hold territories there. There is currently an extended period of peace.
Errikland
19-01-2007, 05:33
Word from Zuk: NO WTF DID I TELL U U KENT INVITE PPL 2 ARTERUS WTF IS RONG WIT U

He was already there in the past.
Frenzia
19-01-2007, 06:59
OOC:I guess I'll ask Zuk nicely.

To Mr Zion

From General Howe,High Councillor of the Frenzian Defense Council

I have taken the pleasure of writing this out myself.I've noticed you poking your nose into the odd international matter so your return comes as no suprise to me or anyone else in Frenzia for that matter.I've reviewed your soldiers,remarkable,although if need be I will crush them to the ground and leave nothing more than a broken corpse.We are not who we used to be.........
Southeastasia
19-01-2007, 09:12
[OOC: How about Terra Recedentia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492701)?]
Kesshite
19-01-2007, 09:55
Ah, first you claim to not be a nation crushed by Industrial Fanaticism, then you admit to state of the art facilities. Which is it then? Is it so hard for FEAC to make up its mind?

~ Ambassador Raniyah
Frenzia
20-01-2007, 07:44
To: Keshitte

From:The Frenzian External Affairs Council


State of the art medical facilities does not prove Industrial Fanaticism,rather it proves we care for our people.


To:Princess Tomoyo Mikanu

From:The Frenzian External Affairs Council

We must agree that limiting children is not a good idea.We thank you for the warning.The limit of children would be our last resort.


OOC: Terra Recedentia looks fun but I don't think its what I'm looking for.I will tag it for later though.
Commonalitarianism
20-01-2007, 15:42
Come to the Beautiful world of Muse:

Offworld colony transport awaits. We will ship you free of charge using a combination of hiberzine and bose einstein condensate you too can be made into a corpsicle to be revived at your destination.

Muse is a beautiful plant with 1.5 gravities, M type sun, and wildlife that attempts that attempts to eat everything in sight. Man eating plants, ferocious lizards, 6 inch long ants, poisonous grass, 24 hours of daylight in a 36 hour day.

We need you to grow Stroon, a life enhancing drug. Stroon and other pharmaceuticals grow exceptionally well on Muse.

We need colonists. Good pay, guaranteed life insurance, health insurance and free company housing to those who emigrate. 30 hour work week. 5 year working contract then you can become a citizen of muse.
Atopiana
20-01-2007, 15:50
You're all fools. Just kill the excess population, or have a nice, long, bloody, war. Either works, but the war option will shore up public support for the regeime. Honestly, 'tis almost as though you cared for your people!
Southeastasia
20-01-2007, 16:15
OOC: Terra Recedentia looks fun but I don't think its what I'm looking for.I will tag it for later though.
[OOC: Well, technically, it could be said that it does accomplish your objectives somewhat.

Why? Because some role-players on NS like to incorporate realism, and with an ever growing population, land eventually sooner or later has to run out (hence why some role-play as having large possessions of landmasses). If not depleting natural resources, among other factors why nations do such things to a land like Terra Recedentia.

Terra Recedentia can be a good place to set up a colony to help relieve population stress.]
Frenzia
20-01-2007, 16:41
OOC:I'm convinced,I'll at least give it a try.Expect a post in the thread later.
Raven corps
20-01-2007, 23:53
Just be on your toes.... Raven corps has been waiting to attack you again...
Frenzia
22-01-2007, 21:32
Frenzian Government Announces No Child Ban

After growing pressure to find a solution to a population problem that has been growing more and more serious,Frenzian Officials announced the possibilty of a child ban.This ban was met with outrage,including protests in the streets of many cities.After deliberation by the Frenzian Welfare Council,it was decided that a child ban would not be occuring.Instead there was a high possibilty of unclaimed lands to be colonized.
Raven corps
23-01-2007, 06:14
Offical Corporate International Communication:


As of today, The corporate body of Raven corps will be placing a naval and airel blockade of Frenzia. This decision has been made in accordance with the Board of Assets absorbtion and assets useage guidelines. The blocade will be immideate and will place all vessels, both naval and airel under watch and will be deemed hostile if said vissesl try to avoid the naval checkpoints.


Forces will be deployed from three seperate location and will form from there.

Declassified details of blockade:

Naval assets:

200 anti-air/ Arsenal ships
70 Hellgade class super carriers- with augment of 50 RC-12 Black widows
150 Hellgade class heavy destroyers
50 DOMar monitor ships
50 Under Raven Hellgade class Submarines.

Aerial:

Raven-sky Sat. network servallince
X-# Blind Raven porbes.
Frenzia
23-01-2007, 06:38
OOC:If you don't mind I'm going to create a new thread for this.
Raven corps
23-01-2007, 06:39
OOC: sure... And hey remember...... No OOc hard feelings.... ICly RC has this thing about you....
Frenzia
23-01-2007, 07:06
OOC:None taken,IC and OOC is always seperate.