NationStates Jolt Archive


One Empire, One Race (MT)

The Scandinvans
18-01-2007, 03:27
Imperial News Network (INN):

“Today, there have been a number of very large gatherings of people of a number of different races in protest one another over a large number of reasons.

The demonstration itself is being held in Valdra where they have been assemble to gain the support of Parliament and the hopes of gaining the approval of the Emperor.

The protest was mostly made up of a radical party called Norse First, which controls one hundred and fifty four seats in Parliament, and made up of elements Conservative, Traditionalists, Fundamentalists, Nobles, and Imperialists which added to the Norse First party total a good majority of the Parliament.

The police and military police have sent 6,500 soldiers and police who will do their best to prevent the situation from turning into a uproar and possibly a riot.

Yet, this number has been estimated to maybe not be enough as currently the demonstrations have been estimated to surpass 1.65 million citizens of the Empire.

Their message is quite simple as that they want to make the European ‘race’ the dominant one in the Empire and suppress the other peoples in the Empire.

In response to this a group, bearing similarities of the Black Panthers, had assembled, but when asked weather they had the proper papers they did not and they were driven off by the thousands and hundreds arrested.

Another group formed in protest in their radical and hate filled message which drew a large, yet much smaller group, of four hundred thousand.

As of now though their have been no new developments and we will keep updates posted.

Lady Erida out.”
Aequatio
18-01-2007, 03:51
OOC: Tagged for monitoring.
The Scandinvans
18-01-2007, 03:58
OOC: I do not want anyone making any racist rants as I want this to be a serious rp.

IC: Imperial News Network:

“Just ten minutes ago a member of the counter-protest shot a member of Norse First while he was making a speech advocating the separatism and the continued singular dominance of the Scandinvan Empire.

In response the man was nearly killed by a mob of the speaker’s supports who would have killed the shooter if it was not for the police coming in, calming down the crowd, and managing to successfully rescue the person.

Currently, the shooter is being treated in an unspecified location, for their safety, and will stand trial for the lesser charge of manslaughter rather than murder and also will receive protection after his release from a probably ten year prison term. As well, five people are now in jail in relation for his attack.

Nothing else has occurred thankfully.

Lady Erida out.”
The Scandinvans
18-01-2007, 04:59
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The Scandinvans
18-01-2007, 07:24
OOC: Note questions or comments are welcome.
Cotenshire
19-01-2007, 02:59
The King happened upon this piece of news by means of a letter from Lord Gaviscilio. When he later watched the INN program, he was alarmed.

Many things about the event confused him. The King did not know how to interpret certain phrases, such as “10 year prison term.” He also was confused by the implied peacefulness of this crowd, as if gatherings of protesters were normally nonviolent. In Cotenshire, after a written petition to local government failed to solve a grievance, the people skipped the step of peaceful protest and advanced on to violent political attacks and/or revolt.

He consulted his Lord Chancellor, Jan Sebastien, and convinced him to write the government of the Scandinvans:



To the Head Chancellor or other such Minister of the Scandinvan Empire and its Most Potent Emperor Olaf IV,

His Majesty, King William Salisbury V, by the Grace of God King of Cotenshire, has been following these rebellions in your realm and is troubled. He has heard of the violence of the vulgar rebellions and is concerned that you have not dispatched enough troops.

When, in rebellions of the commoners and peasants, there is no natural dissipation, troops must be called in to break the revolt. In most circumstances, the commanders need allocate only a few hundred to a few thousand troops. I hear that, currently, 6500 troops have been deployed to the Valdra Rebellion to scatter the insurgents through means of fire and shock. In most Cotenshirick rebellions, this would be more than enough troops. It is also true, however, that most Cotenshirick rebellions do not feature an army of 1.65 million (or even near that number) of traitorous terrorists.

It is then the advice of His Majesty that more troops be allocated to this fermenting situation.

An officer of the Admiralty, Sir Fitzwalter, also humbly offers his advice. He would suggest, and he says this from his own experience at suppressing violent insurgencies, that the troops being mobilized be motorized as to catch up with the rebels more easily. Any protesters that the soldiers find shall be asked to leave the rebellion or be arrested. Any large mobs of rebels that the contingent encounters should be fired upon with machine guns or, he says, ‘automatic weapons fire.’ This should usually break the mobs will and scatter it. Should the traitors persist, then armoured vehicles should be driven into the mob. This tactic normally results in complete dispersal of the mob. It is important to note, says Sir Fitzwalter, that you shall desist in the firing of automatic weapons during this armoured phase or risk shooting your own forces.

His Majesty, the Lord King, also wishes to be informed on the Emperor’s opinion on this matter. Since the number of rebels has grown so large, His Majesty would like to know if the Emperor is allowing them to congregate. He would also like to know if there is an usurper being supported by these rebels, and if the Emperor has an opinion on the message espoused by these insurgents.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord Chancellor
Kesshite
19-01-2007, 03:08
I see the members of Norse First being foolish in the extreme. Cultural hegemony is not, and never will be, something that can be forced on a populous. You cannot legislate culture.

They are the dominant group and if they wish to remain the dominant group, they must act with intelligence and understanding of social dynamics. I fear their current stance will only harden the cultural traditions of non-Europeans within Valdra.

~ Ambassador Raniyah

((Aequatio, you don't need to tag a thread, you can just subscribe to it.))
The Scandinvans
19-01-2007, 03:39
The King happened upon this piece of news by means of a letter from Lord Gaviscilio. When he later watched the INN program, he was alarmed.

Many things about the event confused him. The King did not know how to interpret certain phrases, such as “10 year prison term.” He also was confused by the implied peacefulness of this crowd, as if gatherings of protesters were normally nonviolent. In Cotenshire, after a written petition to local government failed to solve a grievance, the people skipped the step of peaceful protest and advanced on to violent political attacks and/or revolt.

He consulted his Lord Chancellor, Jan Sebastien, and convinced him to write the government of the Scandinvans:



To the Head Chancellor or other such Minister of the Scandinvan Empire and its Most Potent Emperor Olaf IV,

His Majesty, King William Salisbury V, by the Grace of God King of Cotenshire, has been following these rebellions in your realm and is troubled. He has heard of the violence of the vulgar rebellions and is concerned that you have not dispatched enough troops.

When, in rebellions of the commoners and peasants, there is no natural dissipation, troops must be called in to break the revolt. In most circumstances, the commanders need allocate only a few hundred to a few thousand troops. I hear that, currently, 6500 troops have been deployed to the Valdra Rebellion to scatter the insurgents through means of fire and shock. In most Cotenshirick rebellions, this would be more than enough troops. It is also true, however, that most Cotenshirick rebellions do not feature an army of 1.65 million (or even near that number) of traitorous terrorists.

It is then the advice of His Majesty that more troops be allocated to this fermenting situation.

An officer of the Admiralty, Sir Fitzwalter, also humbly offers his advice. He would suggest, and he says this from his own experience at suppressing violent insurgencies, that the troops being mobilized be motorized as to catch up with the rebels more easily. Any protesters that the soldiers find shall be asked to leave the rebellion or be arrested. Any large mobs of rebels that the contingent encounters should be fired upon with machine guns or, he says, ‘automatic weapons fire.’ This should usually break the mobs will and scatter it. Should the traitors persist, then armoured vehicles should be driven into the mob. This tactic normally results in complete dispersal of the mob. It is important to note, says Sir Fitzwalter, that you shall desist in the firing of automatic weapons during this armoured phase or risk shooting your own forces.

His Majesty, the Lord King, also wishes to be informed on the Emperor’s opinion on this matter. Since the number of rebels has grown so large, His Majesty would like to know if the Emperor is allowing them to congregate. He would also like to know if there is an usurper being supported by these rebels, and if the Emperor has an opinion on the message espoused by these insurgents.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord ChancellorTo the Royal Court of the Most Magnificent King of Cotenshire:

The rebellions that occurred in the Empire were lead by groups of people who were mostly from the frontiers of the Empire and not citizens of the Empire. As well, they were mostly done by the Moslem minorities that exist in the vassal kingdoms along the very long borders of the Empire of the Scandinvans and Valgardians.

The protest itself is made up entirely of citizens of the Empire who in itself will not start a riot as they are loyal to the strength of the Empire above all, yet their beliefs desire for them to use the Imperial military to launch a massive program to expel the minorities form the heart of the Empire to the border lands and to minor states made for them.

Currently though the protests are perfectly legal and they will not get violent, unless attacked first, and they will for the time being depart within the time allotted for them to go after their permit expires.

For the issue of the size the Emperor is allowing them to congregate as for the time being their people are doing is legal and due to their presence in Parliament, as though he can overrule them he does not want to overstep the divide of governmental power, but he has gathered a few hundred soldiers around the capital if anything breaks out.

Signed,
Steward of the Emperor
Cotenshire
19-01-2007, 03:57
To the Imperial Steward of the Scandinvan Empire

His Majesty, the King, thanks you for the clarification. This incident is exceptional in that its kind does not occur in Cotenshire, so that is why I may have seemed uninformed. His Majesty would like to take this opportunity to let you know that in the event this becomes threatening, he would do everything in within his potency to keep the Scandinvan Monarchy in power.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord Chancellor
The Scandinvans
19-01-2007, 04:12
I see the members of Norse First being foolish in the extreme. Cultural hegemony is not, and never will be, something that can be forced on a populous. You cannot legislate culture.

They are the dominant group and if they wish to remain the dominant group, they must act with intelligence and understanding of social dynamics. I fear their current stance will only harden the cultural traditions of non-Europeans within Valdra.

~ Ambassador Raniyah

((Aequatio, you don't need to tag a thread, you can just subscribe to it.))The problem with this that the Norse First do not seek conformity for the other peoples of the Empire, but they desire to drive them out of the European dominated areas and suppress the other cultures underneath them and drive their old ones away.
The Scandinvans
19-01-2007, 04:20
To the Imperial Steward of the Scandinvan Empire

His Majesty, the King, thanks you for the clarification. This incident is exceptional in that its kind does not occur in Cotenshire, so that is why I may have seemed uninformed. His Majesty would like to take this opportunity to let you know that in the event this becomes threatening, he would do everything in within his potency to keep the Scandinvan Monarchy in power.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord ChancellorIt is quite alright in that we ourselves have a much more conflict culture as the Empire is made up of many different cultures, though Europeans make up a super majority of the population, to which we try to keep violence low between the different groups.

As well, we thank you for your continued support.

Signed,
Steward of the Emperor
The Scandinvans
21-01-2007, 08:31
Imperial News Network:

“Within the last hour one of the speakers was arrested on charge of improper public speaking by demanding that the crowd go and frighten the non-White residents of Valdra and chase them out of the city entirely, yet since he did not advocate any assault or theft, only the molestation of the common peace he will be detained at the max for two weeks.

As well, the police have increased their monitoring of the groups by adding an additional five thousand officers to stop them from becoming violent and to prevent any group from violently harassing them.”
Dentara
21-01-2007, 11:55
TO: The Imperial Steward of the Scandivan Empire
FROM: Dentaran Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs
TOPIC: Recommendation Concerning Mass Protest

Greetings Imperial Steward. My government, and in particular, His Most Holy Highness Emperor Aramius I, have been observing the mass protest building up in your lands, and are becoming concerned. Although we do understand that, in an optimal situation, the protest would break up upon their protest permit expiring, it is becoming more and more clear, at least to us, that this situation may actually be more volatile and dangerous than it appears.

In our experience, smaller protests, often in the size order of the hundred, or possibly even thousands, will often break up with little complaint. However, a massive rally, the size of which ranges above one million citizens, often continue to function and remain, even when ordered to disperse, and can even morph into far more dangerous groups. Furthermore, as evidenced by the growing number of troubles, such as the shooting and the arrest, it seems that the protest is gaining strength and momentum. Often, the visible symptoms of the problem only hint at the true severity of the problem.

Therefore, we would like to issue a friendly recommendation that you prepare for the unlikely, but nonetheless possible event of the protest overflowing and becoming a revolution. And finally, should the worst happen and violence erupts, we offer the use of the Dentaran 5th Paratroop Brigade, to assist in returning order. Let us hope that it does not come to that.

Sincerely,
The Imperial Minister For Foreign Affairs