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Rebirth of Earth NA (sign up thread)

Maineiacs
11-01-2007, 03:17
The reborn Earth NA (for Not Another Earth. It's an inside joke, you had to be there :D ) Is open and accepting new members. If a diplomacy/ potential millitary RP set in Post Modern tech sounds like your thing, just sign up here, and when we have enough players (likely 6 to 12), I'll post the territorial Claims and IC threads.



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colors:
Bright Red -- Maineiacs
Brown -- Wasted Genius
Green -- Federation of African States
Gold -- Havaco
Blue -- Cortellen
Orange -- Aiutar
Purple -- Koramerica
Dark Red -- RSFSR
Black -- Krat
Dark Blue -- Havaco/Cortellen
Yellow -- People's Republic of China
Havvy
11-01-2007, 03:23
Can I claim the pacific ocean, with no land?

In all due seriousness, I guess I could start up a second country. Let the nation of Havaco be formed! I shall claim the midwestern states of America, if that is alright. Let the nation of Havaco be formed.
Maineiacs
11-01-2007, 03:41
My vice-thread mod and I have between us claimed all of Canada, the US, and Mexico. Everything else is open, we'll probably have a population cap on how much territory you can claim. Welcome aboard!

EDIT: You could claim the Islands in the Pacific if you wanted. We'll see how many players we have, that'll effect hte land claim limit, too. In fact, I may, if we gat enough players give up some of my claim.
Havvy
11-01-2007, 03:51
Well, if we are talking about continents here, than I'll claim Russia, the countries west of them, and Iceland.
Maineiacs
11-01-2007, 04:02
Please wait until we have enough players before you claim land. My vice-mod and I are reclaiming what we controlled on the original thread, but that's subject to change if we get a lot of people interested. Don't worry, lots of prime real estate available, (that includes Antarctica). Good to see you're enthusiasm, though. :D
Cortellen
11-01-2007, 04:05
I might be interested.
No Taxes
11-01-2007, 04:14
Count me in, when this starts.
Aiutar
11-01-2007, 04:20
I'm interested.
Maineiacs
11-01-2007, 04:34
Great. Glad to have all of you aboard. I'll give it a little more time to see if anyone else signs up.
Havvy
12-01-2007, 00:02
Bumpland. The location of the worlds greatest bump.
Wasted Genius
12-01-2007, 00:11
OK, I'm in. When do we start?

:D
Maineiacs
12-01-2007, 01:38
OK, I'm in. When do we start?

:D

How does tomorrow sound to everyone?
Cortellen
12-01-2007, 01:49
How does tomorrow sound to everyone?

Depends on when tomorrow. Can we start after 3:30 PST?
Wasted Genius
12-01-2007, 01:53
Tomorrow's good. I'm in PST too.
Havvy
12-01-2007, 02:00
What, is that 5:30 central? That works for me also.
Maineiacs
12-01-2007, 02:27
And 6:30pm here on the East coast. I'll start the RP right after dinner.
No Taxes
12-01-2007, 03:09
And 6:30pm here on the East coast. I'll start the RP right after dinner.
Cool, so how are we going to determine how much territory one gets to claim?
Cortellen
12-01-2007, 03:13
That sounds good.
Aiutar
12-01-2007, 03:21
Sounds pretty good. I have a party to go to at 6, but I'll be back around 9ish.
Maineiacs
12-01-2007, 03:30
Cool, so how are we going to determine how much territory one gets to claim?

It'll be by population, and a set amount of people per sq. mile. I'll explain on the RP thread.
Wasted Genius
12-01-2007, 07:14
It'll be by population, and a set amount of people per sq. mile. I'll explain on the RP thread.

Do clones count?

*orders 50 million petrie dishes*
Maineiacs
12-01-2007, 10:42
Do clones count?

*orders 50 million petrie dishes*

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:eek: :D
Kratt
12-01-2007, 14:03
I'll join perhaps. Depends which nations I end up with. (like if I end up with Greenland I'm not going to join). Hopefully I would like to claim the middle east.
Wasted Genius
12-01-2007, 17:41
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:eek: :D

Gaaahhahhhahhhaa! That image was perfect! LMAO!

(I was just kidding about the clones.)
Maineiacs
12-01-2007, 18:34
I'll join perhaps. Depends which nations I end up with. (like if I end up with Greenland I'm not going to join). Hopefully I would like to claim the middle east.

You can't have Greenland Anywany, it's mine. We'll find out what eveyone ends up with this evening.
Wasted Genius
12-01-2007, 22:37
The reborn Earth NA (for Not Another Earth. It's an inside joke, you had to be there :D ) Is open and accepting new members. If a diplomacy/ potential millitary RP set in Post Modern tech sounds like your thing, just sign up here, and when we have enough players (likely 6 to 12), I'll post the territorial Claims and IC threads.

From WG Headline News, Wasted Genius News Network's 24 hour information service:


Breaking News: Earth NA To Add New Nations!

New and existing nations of Earth NA await the beginning of a conference to stake new territorial claims all over the world. The international meeting is expected to take place at 6:30 PM, Eastern Time and will be carried live on Maineiacs News Network.

The Liberal Utopia Maineaics will officially announce the rules and location of the meeting before it begins.

Stay tuned for more details as this story develops.


OOC: This is really just a bump.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 01:52
OK, folks, sorry I'm late. Before we get into bidding, Let's lay down the rules:


1) No goddmoding. The era is post-modern tech, so while your nation may have a space program (if you can afford it, and RP the R&D), you do not have a fleet of Starships with warp drive and photon torpedos. Also, no pulling 50 million man armies out of your ass (or anyone else's ass, for that matter). Jet fighters can make intercontinental journeys in a few hours NOT 10 minutes, and they'll surely be seen on radar. and post your losses, not your opponent's.

2. The NS rules of RP ettiqute are in force here. I don't mind good-natured teasing, but if you have a serious problem with someone (even me), don't make verbal attacks on the thread, TG me, and we'll work it out.

3. Related to goddmoding, be realistic in your tech R&D. That means both in regards to timetables, and to having the usual setbacks, stalls, budgetary concerns, and mishaps.

4. RPing a war is fun, if it's done right, but try to come up with other stuff to RP as well. Anything from diplomatic and trade relations, to elections, to internal insurrections (I did that on the old thread, it was a blast), or even the pop culture of your nation.

Now some technical stuff:

The starting date is January, 2134. RP time progresses at 1 month per 1 day in RT.

claims can be posted here, so that the RP thread doesn't get clogged up with this stuff.

The amount of land you can claim is based on your NS population. Try to shoot for no more than 1000 people per sq. mile, and no less than 100. Hopefully this will leave some areas unclaimed, which can be either claimed by latecomers, or disputed diplomattically or millitarily IC.

Total land areas of nations can be found here.

http://www.infoplease.com/countries.html

just click on the nation you want, and it'll have its statistics listed.

OK, everyone, let's get this going. My last bit of business is to remind you all that the decisions of me, the God-emperor of Earth NA are final. If I'm not available, then talk to Wasted Genius, and his decision is final.

When you make your claim, let me know what color you want to be.


Antarctica is also open for bids. In this world, even though it wouldn't even be possible IRL, the Ice caps don't exist, except in the Arctic Ocean and seaonal ice around the shore of Antarctica. Coastal Antarctica and Greenland both have a cold-pine forest climate, Greenland like central Alaska, Antarctica is more like Siberia. The interiors are tundra. Antarctica can either be owned as a whole (5,400,000 sq. mi.) or split into hemishperes. The eastern hemisphere contains 2/3 of the land mass, but the western hemisphere has the only ports that don't freeze up in the winter.
No Taxes
13-01-2007, 02:14
I would like Senegal, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Mali, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Cote D'Ivoire, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Congo, Gabon, and Equatorial Guinea. This is 2,605,797 square miles and my NS population is 2.034 Billion so this is 781 people per square mile. For my color, I would like green.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 02:16
I would like Senegal, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Mali, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Cote D'Ivoire, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Congo, Gabon, and Equatorial Guinea. This is 2,605,797 square miles and my NS population is 2.034 Billion so this is 781 people per square mile. For my color, I would like green.

Done

Which Congo? Republic of, or DR Congo?
No Taxes
13-01-2007, 02:30
Done

Which Congo? Republic of, or DR Congo?
Republic of Congo, the smaller one.
Wasted Genius
13-01-2007, 02:34
OK, I'm here, but I'm going to lurk in the background for a bit because my claim looks good so far.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 02:37
Yeah, your claim is secure, but who knows what kinf of naieghbors we're getting? ;)
No Taxes
13-01-2007, 02:40
Yeah, your claim is secure, but who knows what kinf of naieghbors we're getting? ;)
I'll mainly be concerned with Africa...for the moment.
Havvy
13-01-2007, 03:10
I would like to have the land mass of Austria-Hungary and Germany prior to WW1. Is that possible?

Also, can I wish it to be that we don't have to RP these lands grabs, and we just pretend they've been like that for the past 34 years.

Something like this:

On January 1st, 00:00, clocks around the world went berserk as they could not figure out what year it was. Systems crashed, and they could not be debugged. Riots happened everywhere, and overthrew much of the governments before starting huge governments to be in control of the world.

Scientists though, the next day developed a computer that they were working on for the past five years. It has three choices instead of just two, making binary obsolete for programs, and overall things went back into normal order, except for the countries.

The entire internet was wiped clean, and every gaming device with time also broke. The entertainment in America went towards sports, and soccer became the national sport there so that they could unionize with the rest of the world.

In only twenty years after the crash, computers were back onto the track of gaining speed. They were really expensive though, as many people went broke, and didn't have any money.

Obesity rates plummeted in the 34 years, and that is where we are currently...

Can this work as a backdrop or would we just have nothing going on for the next long period of time???
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 03:24
I would like to have the land mass of Austria-Hungary and Germany prior to WW1. Is that possible?

Also, can I wish it to be that we don't have to RP these lands grabs, and we just pretend they've been like that for the past 34 years.

Something like this:

On January 1st, 00:00, clocks around the world went berserk as they could not figure out what year it was. Systems crashed, and they could not be debugged. Riots happened everywhere, and overthrew much of the governments before starting huge governments to be in control of the world.

Scientists though, the next day developed a computer that they were working on for the past five years. It has three choices instead of just two, making binary obsolete for programs, and overall things went back into normal order, except for the countries.

The entire internet was wiped clean, and every gaming device with time also broke. The entertainment in America went towards sports, and soccer became the national sport there so that they could unionize with the rest of the world.

In only twenty years after the crash, computers were back onto the track of gaining speed. They were really expensive though, as many people went broke, and didn't have any money.

Obesity rates plummeted in the 34 years, and that is where we are currently...

Can this work as a backdrop or would we just have nothing going on for the next long period of time???

1) I can give you close to what you want. I can give you the present day boundaries of what they controlled back then; best I can do.

2) you only have to mention what happened prior to 2134 if it's germain to what you envision for your nation. For example, I will be mentioning something that happened to Maineiacs in the old thread in the year 2109. This had a lot to do with why I chose such an odd year; it's the 25th anniversary of that event. You do not have to RP obtaining your nation's boundaries.

BTW, what color do you want?
Havvy
13-01-2007, 04:20
Can you do the jolt posting section (such as where you type this reply)? That would be cool.

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Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 04:22
Can you do the jolt posting section (such as where you type this reply)? That would be cool.

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huh? What are you talking about? :confused:
Havvy
13-01-2007, 04:37
Oh well, just forget it. Any color you want.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 04:57
A quick word about nukes and space programs. If none of the nations you control have nukes, you have to develop them in RP. Same for a space program.

I'll post the RP thread as soon as we hear from the others.
No Taxes
13-01-2007, 05:22
A quick word about nukes and space programs. If none of the nations you control have nukes, you have to develop them in RP. Same for a space program.

I'll post the RP thread as soon as we hear from the others.
Can't we just ban nukes? They tend to ruin RPs and if someone gets angry they just launch hundreds of nukes at your nation and you are screwed.
Cortellen
13-01-2007, 05:22
I would like Albania, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, Italy, Macedonia, Romania, and Serbia.

I'll take Blue.
Cortellen
13-01-2007, 05:27
I would like Albania, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, Italy, Macedonia, Romania, and Serbia.

I'll take Blue.

But I see Bosnia and Croatia are already taken now that I post...
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 05:34
Can't we just ban nukes? They tend to ruin RPs and if someone gets angry they just launch hundreds of nukes at your nation and you are screwed.

Not if they're smart, they won't. Only the most insane would launch a nuke attack when there's a 100% chance that somone wil retaliate. Form alliances. Make powerful friends. Or just RP the R&D of a missle defence system.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 05:35
But I see Bosnia and Croatia are already taken now that I post...

The rest of your claim is noted.
Aiutar
13-01-2007, 05:46
I would like Cambodia, Japan, Laos, North Korea, the Philippines, South Korea, and Vietnam.

As for the color... orange sounds good.

Thanks.
Wasted Genius
13-01-2007, 06:37
Can't we just ban nukes? They tend to ruin RPs and if someone gets angry they just launch hundreds of nukes at your nation and you are screwed.

I agree in principle. Or how about just calling them 'bad form.' We've tried this whole nuke thing before and it just doesn't work. And using more than tactical nukes borders on godmodding anyway in my opinion.
Wasted Genius
13-01-2007, 06:46
~snip~

On January 1st, 00:00, clocks around the world went berserk as they could not figure out what year it was. Systems crashed, and they could not be debugged. Riots happened everywhere, and overthrew much of the governments before starting huge governments to be in control of the world.



Can this work as a backdrop or would we just have nothing going on for the next long period of time???

Or if you have a knowledge of late 60's cartoons, you could use the wayback machine in reverse mode. No kidding, its happened before - that's the beauty of Earth NA.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 06:56
I would like Cambodia, Japan, Laos, North Korea, the Philippines, South Korea, and Vietnam.

As for the color... orange sounds good.

Thanks.

noted.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 07:01
I agree in principle. Or how about just calling them 'bad form.' We've tried this whole nuke thing before and it just doesn't work. And using more than tactical nukes borders on godmodding anyway in my opinion.

I'm inclined to agree, but I think "cold wars" can be interesting to RP, so I don't want to ban them altogether.
Wasted Genius
13-01-2007, 20:25
I'm inclined to agree, but I think "cold wars" can be interesting to RP, so I don't want to ban them altogether.


I propose that one of the first orders of business IC is to set up a world council to vote on such things. An Earth NA version of the UN. It could be just as toothless as the RL UN, but at least it would be a place where everyone could participate in the discussion.

If we decide to start an Earth NA UN, I'd like to propose that we discuss the nukes policy that will save us from having to start a war and find out what happens.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 20:36
I propose that one of the first orders of business IC is to set up a world council to vote on such things. An Earth NA version of the UN. It could be just as toothless as the RL UN, but at least it would be a place where everyone could participate in the discussion.

If we decide to start an Earth NA UN, I'd like to propose that we discuss the nukes policy that will save us from having to start a war and find out what happens.

Worth considering.
Maineiacs
13-01-2007, 20:38
But I see Bosnia and Croatia are already taken now that I post...

yeah, sorry. I gave you Montenegro as a consolation prize.
Aiutar
13-01-2007, 22:20
An Earth NA UN sounds like a decent way to start everything off.
Havvy
13-01-2007, 22:25
Can we call it the World Council? UN is done to many times already.

Anyways, after all initial land grabs are completed, why don't we voluntarily close this thread so that we don't get 1,700 post threads...

Those are a huge waste of time in my opinion, and the server has to do a lot of processing to it.
Cortellen
13-01-2007, 22:26
yeah, sorry. I gave you Montenegro as a consolation prize.

I worked out my population density and I have to claim something else...
Also a UN might be good.
Koramerica
13-01-2007, 22:41
I'm interested, can I claim Brazil?
Havvy
13-01-2007, 23:39
What color?

Oh, and when you change the map key, if my color shows "Havvy", can you change that to "Havaco"? I'm not sure if it isn't "Havaco", but if it's not, please change it as "Havaco" is my country name. Take away "s.
No Taxes
13-01-2007, 23:44
Yeah, my country will be called the Federation of African States (FAS).
Cortellen
13-01-2007, 23:55
Can I add Switzerland and Moldova to get my density right?
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 00:03
We still have one person to hear from, I'll TG him and see if he's still interested. If no one else shows up, I'll allow some more claims, although I would like there to be unclaimed land left over. Koramerica, welcome. Brazil is yours, choose a color. Cortellen, just tell me what you want, and its yours. Havvy and No Taxes, I'll make those name changes. Also, Havvy, are you talking about having our own page offsite? I'd do that, except I have no idea how. The Earth NA World Council is a good idea, and can meet in Maineiacs City.
Koramerica
14-01-2007, 00:05
I choose Mauve as my color. Can I use military equipment bought from NS Storefronts on Earth NA?
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 00:12
I choose Mauve as my color. Can I use military equipment bought from NS Storefronts on Earth NA?

I don't think I have mauve. How about purple? You'll have to be more specific about this millitary equipment. Tell me what it is, and I'll tell you if it's allowable.
Havvy
14-01-2007, 00:40
I'm not talking about offsite forums. We'd get no new nations from that.

What I mean is that threads like "Reclamation of Earth V" are extraordinary long, and should be voluntarily closed, and that we could use NS Wiki to store the history of Earth NA II.

Anyways, I guess I'll be needing to do research about the countries in that area.
Koramerica
14-01-2007, 01:18
I don't think I have mauve. How about purple? You'll have to be more specific about this millitary equipment. Tell me what it is, and I'll tell you if it's allowable.


Purple is fine, I have bought many items from Kor MT Tech & Elite Arms Inc.
I hope you don't want the entire list. I could put together a Military Assessment Thread if needed.
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 01:49
Purple is fine, I have bought many items from Kor MT Tech & Elite Arms Inc.
I hope you don't want the entire list. I could put together a Military Assessment Thread if needed.

I need to know if your stuff is acceptable. For example: no laser guns (I might allow slow and difficult R&D toward a laser cannon, but no rifles or pistols. Railgun R&D is acceptable), "primitive" hover tanks are acceptable, but nothing that resembles a giant anime robot, no warp-drive starfighters, no cyborgs (again, you can start R&D, but I won't allow you to have them right off), no clone armies, nothing super-exotic that can rip a wormhole open, or anything like that, and no time-travel.
No Taxes
14-01-2007, 01:58
I need to know if your stuff is acceptable. For example: no laser guns (I might allow slow and difficult R&D toward a laser cannon, but no rifles or pistols. Railgun R&D is acceptable), "primitive" hover tanks are acceptable, but nothing that resembles a giant anime robot, no warp-drive starfighters, no cyborgs (again, you can start R&D, but I won't allow you to have them right off), no clone armies, nothing super-exotic that can rip a wormhole open, or anything like that, and no time-travel.
So BF 2142 is a good example of what military equipment would be like?
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 02:03
So BF 2142 is a good example of what military equipment would be like?

That depends on what, exactly, BF 2142 means.
No Taxes
14-01-2007, 02:09
That depends on what, exactly, BF 2142 means.
Battlefield 2142 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2142), the PC game.
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 02:22
Battlefield 2142 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2142), the PC game.

Possibly, but it looked like that had starfighters -- which aren't allowed -- or am I mistaken about that?
No Taxes
14-01-2007, 02:26
Possibly, but it looked like that had starfighters -- which aren't allowed -- or am I mistaken about that?
No, they are air bases that carry troops and supplies to battlefields, have little weaponry and they are very slow.
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 02:30
This should be fine, but I'd want you to RP the R&D of that ship, and possibly the propulsion system, depending on what it is. Incidentally everyone, R&D for workable fusion power is allowed.
Havvy
14-01-2007, 05:42
When do we start that?
Wasted Genius
14-01-2007, 05:49
Battlefield 2142 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2142), the PC game.

Hmm. I never played Battefield 2142, but it looks like another game I'm a bit familiar with...

If we're going to do the pseudo-mech thing, just watch out for the 50 foot titanium punji sticks (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/wasted_genius/Punji.jpg). :rolleyes:

The way I'm reading you Maineiacs is that you'd like to avoid the magical-nobody-knows-how-it-works-but-me tactic. We've been there and everybody just ends up scratching there head trying to figure out how to post a reply. I'm with you if thats the case. I like new tech, just as long as it doesn't involve learning a bunch of different stuff to RP it. Sorry No Taxes, no offense intended. I'll dive into your tech if you first can convince me that it'll be entertaining on some level.

Also, Havvy I'm on board with the name of World Council, sounds appropriate. Maybe the RL UN should take a clue and consider a name change too. The UN is n't all that united these days....
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 06:19
Hmm. I never played Battefield 2142, but it looks like another game I'm a bit familiar with...

If we're going to do the pseudo-mech thing, just watch out for the 50 foot titanium punji sticks (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/wasted_genius/Punji.jpg). :rolleyes:

The way I'm reading you Maineiacs is that you'd like to avoid the magical-nobody-knows-how-it-works-but-me tactic. We've been there and everybody just ends up scratching there head trying to figure out how to post a reply. I'm with you if thats the case. I like new tech, just as long as it doesn't involve learning a bunch of different stuff to RP it. Sorry No Taxes, no offense intended. I'll dive into your tech if you first can convince me that it'll be entertaining on some level.

Also, Havvy I'm on board with the name of World Council, sounds appropriate. Maybe the RL UN should take a clue and consider a name change too. The UN is n't all that united these days....

You've pretty much got it. If anyone does spring a mech on the rest of us, that post will simply be nullified. I'm not certain I'm being as clear as I'd like to be though, so I am thinking of judging weapons on a case-by-case basis.

BTW, Havvy, we'll start on Monday. I want to see if anyone else signs up.
Koramerica
14-01-2007, 07:40
I need to know if your stuff is acceptable. For example: no laser guns (I might allow slow and difficult R&D toward a laser cannon, but no rifles or pistols. Railgun R&D is acceptable), "primitive" hover tanks are acceptable, but nothing that resembles a giant anime robot, no warp-drive starfighters, no cyborgs (again, you can start R&D, but I won't allow you to have them right off), no clone armies, nothing super-exotic that can rip a wormhole open, or anything like that, and no time-travel.

I'm still working on R & D ( to be manufactured ) items, as far as lasers I will only use them as they exist in the RL. I'm working on a Rail Gun, a hover tank, and a few other things I will add later.

Purchased Items

54 HJ-58 Phoenix’

16 Hypersonic Bomber Configuration
16 Orbital Bomber Configuration
14 Orbital Spy Plane Configuration
8 Executive Transport Configuration
20 Sky Wolf Attack Helicopters
1 Kormitz-Class Carrier: with modifications to launch subs under the waterline.
6 Cormetz-Class Carriers
34 Aerial Class Subs
20 Coral Skimmer Class Attack Subs, Carrier based or independent operation.


Statistics

Displacement: 280 tons
Foilborne Power Plant: 20,000 horsepower waterjet
Hullborne Power Plant: 2 x 2,400 horsepower waterjets
Foils Extended Length: 148 feet
Foils Retracted Length: 160 feet
Beam: 32 feet
Foilborne Speed: 55 knots
Hullborne Speed: 20 knots
Crew Complement: 18

Features

AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
S1850 3-D Air Surveillance Radar
Mk 23 Target Acquisition Radar
Mk 92 Fire Control System
Mk 91 NSSM Guidance System

Electronic Warfare and Decoys
Laser Warning
EMP Shielding
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite (Jamming/Deception)
AN/SLQ-25A Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
Mk72 Degaussing System
2 x Decoy Launcher

Armament

20mm Retractable Phalanx CIWS x2
Otobreda 76mm Gun
M312 50 cal. Heavy Machine Gun x2

Plus:
Tomahawk Cruise Missile Battery (9 missiles each)
RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile Battery (9 missiles)
RIM-7 Sea Sparrow AA Missile Battery (9 missiles)

20 AR-3 Armored Combat Land rovers
520 Landing Hoover Craft
2 Ohio Class Subs w/ one Coral Skimmer for each
32 Oceanview Class Sub w/ one Aerial Sub for each
10 Spy Configuration Super Oil Tankers w one Aerial Sub, one Coral Skimmer for each.

2 Champion Class Super Carriers

Statistics

Displacement: 370,000 tons
Power Plant: Eight A4W Nuclear Reactors
Shafts: 16
Length: 510 meters
Beam: 110 meters
Flight Deck Width: 140 meters
Speed: 32 knots
Crew Complement: 9,740 including air crew
Aircraft: 170 planes and 15 helicopters

Features

SAMPSON Multi-Function Air Tracking Radar
AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
AN/SPS-49(V)1 2-D Air Search Radar
S1850 3-D Air Surveillance Radar
AN/SPN-46 Air Traffic Control Radar x2
AN/SPN-43B Air Traffic Control Radar
AN/SPN-44 Landing Aid Radar
VSR Volume Search Radar
AN/SGS-55 Surface Search Radar
MFS-7000 Sonar
AN/WQN Doppler Sonar Velocity Log System
Mk 23 Target Acquisition Radar
Mk 91 NSSM Guidance System x3
Mk 95 Radars x3

Electronic Warfare and Decoys
Laser Warning
EMP Shielding
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite (Jamming/Deception)
AN/SLQ-25A Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
Mk 53 Nulka Decoy Launching System
Mk72 Degaussing System
4 x Decoy Launchers
FCSSM Fleet Counter Surveillance Satellite Module

Armament
8 x RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Point-Defense Missile Batteries (12 missiles each)
8 x RIM-7 Sea Sparrow AA Missile Batteries (9 missiles each)
12 x 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS

Armor
Belt: 12.1 in
Bulkheads: 11.3 in
Barbettes: 11.6-17.3 in
Decks: 7.5 in
Flight Deck: 9.8 in

Picture
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/r.../carrier-3.jpg



10 Agamemnon Class Battleships


Statistics
Displacement: 45,000 empty/58,000 full
Length: 877 ft 3 in
Beam: 108 ft 2 in
Draft: 38 ft
Speed: 32 knots
Crew Complement: 1,089
Power Plant: Two A4W Nuclear Reactors
Shafts: 4

Electronics
AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
S1850 3-D Air Surveillance Radar
SAMPSON Multi-Function Air Tracking Radar
AN/SPG Fire Control Radar
AN/SGS-55 Surface Search Radar
AN/SPQ-9 Gun Fire Control Radar
MFS-7000 Sonar
AN/WLR-1H ESM
AN/WQN Doppler Sonar Velocity Log System
Volume Search Radar (VSR)

Countermeasures
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite (Jamming/Deception)
SSTD Surface Ship Torpedo Defense System
AN/SLQ-25A Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
MK-53 Nulka Decoy Launching System
MK72 Degaussing System
FCSSM Fleet Counter Surveillance Satellite Module *original*
Laser Warning
EMP Shielding

Armament
9x16 in (406mm) 50 cal. Mark 7 guns w/ autoloader (5 rounds per minute)
12x5 in (125mm) 38 cal. Mark 12 guns w/ autoloader (20 rounds per minute)
32xBGM-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
16xRGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles
4x30 mm Goalkeeper CIWS
2xSea RAM Defense Batteries (11 missiles each battery)
18xMark-32 Mod 15 Surface Vessel Torpedo Tubes
20xM312 50 cal. heavy machine guns
4xM307 Advanced Objective Crew Served Weapons

Armor
Belt: 12.1 in
Bulkheads: 11.3 in
Barbettes: 11.6-17.3 in
Turrets: 19.7 in
Decks: 7.5 in

Pictures
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...adside_USN.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sconsin_bb.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_tomohawk.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er_cropped.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ht_torpedo.jpg



1 Cormetz-Class Carrier
1 Kormarian Class Carrier
10 Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruisers/Arsenal Class Stealth Missile Cruiser
16 Zumwalt Class Stealth Missile Destroyers
16 Daring Class Air Defense Destroyers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer

16 Brandenburg Class Stealth ASW Frigates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_class_frigate

6 Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
20 Allegro/Virginia/Seawolf Class Attack Submarines
2 ASDS Advanced SEAL Delivery Systems
6 Safeguard Class Damage Control Ships
6 Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ships
50 SH-60 Seahawk Helicopters (Blackhawk naval variant)
38 AH-64D Apache Longbow Helicopters
20 CH-46 Sea Knight Helicopters
10 CH-53 Super Stallion Helicopters
116 F/A 401 Birds of Prey
110 F-35 Lightning II’s
110 F-18E Super Hornets
4 E-2C Hawkeyes

1230 KorStrike Fighters

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/JSFLanding.jpg


The KorStrike Fighter (KSF) is a multi-role fighter optimized for the air-to-ground role, designed to affordably meet the needs of the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and allies, with improved survivability, precision engagement capability, the mobility necessary for future joint operations and the reduced life cycle costs associated with tomorrow’s fiscal environment. KSF will benefit from many of the same technologies developed for F-22 and will capitalize on commonality and modularity to maximize affordability. The KSF program will demonstrate two competing weapon system concepts for a tri-service family of aircraft to affordably meet these service needs:

456 V-22 Osprey

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/v-22.htm

The V-22 Osprey is a tiltrotor vertical/short takeoff and landing (VSTOL), multi-mission air-craft developed to fill multi-Service combat operational requirements. The MV-22 will replace the current Marine Corps assault helicopters in the medium lift category (CH-46E and CH-53D), contributing to the dominant maneuver of the Marine landing force, as well as supporting focused logistics in the days following commencement of an amphibious operation. The Air Force variant, the CV-22, will replace the MH-53J and MH-60G and augment the MC-130 fleet in the USSOCOM Special Operations mission. The Air Force requires the CV-22 to provide a long-range VTOL insertion and extraction capability. The tiltrotor design combines the vertical flight capabilities of a helicopter with the speed and range of a turboprop airplane and permits aerial refueling and world-wide self deployment.

20 Vetiport_bell609 (( Civilian Tiltrotor (VSTOL),

2 Space Stations

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/Kormanthor2/space_station.gif

Space Station Stats:

Mass: 2,080,000 lbs
Width: 712 ft
Length: 780 ft

Almost 2 acres of solar panels to provide electrical power to twelve state-of-the-art laboratories.


12 Korde Class Spaceships

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/dy100beautysmall.jpg

Ships Complement: 22
Length: 100 m
Beam: 23.37 m
Draught: 34.9 m
Weight: 2.72 mil kg
Range: Standard 900,000 km
Maximum 387,000,000 km
Speed: Earth Escape 38,000 km / hr
Cruising 55,000 km / hr
Maximum 80,000 km / hr
Modules: Cargo, Fuel & Passager Modules are Interchangable
Propulsion: Fission Ion Rocket Engine
Navigation: Optical Tracker; Controled Inertial Guidance
Communications: Laser Radiotelemetry

12 Scramliners ( Civilian Scram Jet Passager Plane )
2 Floating Cities
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/FreedomShiprear_high.jpg


Moon Base
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/Kormanthor2/MoonBase.jpg

Kordberg Class Earth / Moon Ferry

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/stellarfordbeautysmall.jpg

Length: 183 m
Weight: 4750 tons
Ships Complement: 102
Propulsion: Two Fission Ion Rocket Engines
Speed: Cruising 135,000 km / hr
Number Owned: 12

The UES Space Shuttle

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/x33-5_300-s.jpg

The UES flies much like the Space Shuttle. It takes off vertically and lands on a runway. However, there are differences between the two vehicles. The UES is a means of transport only. It is not used as a science platform like the original Space Shuttle. Also, the UES is a single-stage-to-orbit spacecraft it does not drop off components on its way to orbit. It relys totally on its own built-in engines to reach orbit, omitting the need for additional boosters. Unlike the original shuttle, the UES uses a new linear aerospike engine, which looks and runs much differently than the bell-shaped Space Shuttle Main Engine. Kore Tech considered the aerospike engine for the Space Shuttle 25 years ago, but opted to use the Space Shuttle Main Engine, also built by Koretdyne. The aerospike has been revived and enhanced to power the UES. The aerospike nozzle is shaped like an inverted bell nozzle. Where a bell nozzle begins small and widens toward the opening of the nozzle like a cone, the aerospike decreases in width toward the opening of the nozzle. The aerospike is 75 percent shorter than an equivalent bell nozzle engine. It is also lighter, and its form blends well with the UES's lifting body airframe for lower drag during flight. The shape spreads thrust loads evenly at the base of the vehicle, causing less structural weight, which allows it to obtain vehicle speeds in excess of Mach 15.

Number Owned: 12


http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormantho...avyFighter.jpg

KA-1 Starfighter

Type: Interceptor
Length: 12 meters
Top Speed:
Power / Engines: Fussion / Ion
Crew: 2 pilot & gunner
Cargo Capacity: 180 lbs
Hull/Armor: 6 centimeters of Advanced Composite Armor
Laser Range Finder

Weapons:

Two 20mm Gatling guns
Maineiacs
14-01-2007, 10:39
You can build the moonbase, but you don't get it for free. same for the floating cities. Don't expect to be the only one with these things though (I'm going to Mars, feel free to follow me;) ), The star fighter is out. Are these 12 Korde Class Spaceships civillian or millitary? If they're civillian, R&D them, or at least RP production (and convince me your nation can afford 12 of them). No one will have a starfleet. I need more info on this: Orbital Bomber Configuration. Everything else is fine. Thank you for having a realistic amount of them. In the original Earth NA, I had one guy who tried to convince me to let him have 1000 Battleships.
Havvy
14-01-2007, 21:58
You'll be expecting my nation to be building a giant energy shield that would stop the ships from getting close to my country (Say 10 miles high it can be.)

I'll have to research what could stop them though.

I'm not building any spacey warcraft, as I don't like space as a battlefield.
Koramerica
14-01-2007, 23:47
The Korde Class Spaceship is civilian, the HJ-58 Phoenix’ has numerous versions one is an Orbital Passager liner. The Orbital Bomber version is military,
both are hyperspeed aircraft as they are powered by both scramjets and conventional rocket engines.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 01:06
The Korde Class Spaceship is civilian, the HJ-58 Phoenix’ has numerous versions one is an Orbital Passager liner. The Orbital Bomber version is military,
both are hyperspeed aircraft as they are powered by both scramjets and conventional rocket engines.

It's acceptable. I was planning on some scramjets myself.


OK, kiddies, we kick it off tomorrow. I think I'll allow you all to claim more territory. I still want to leave some areas unclaimed in case new people join, but your claims look rather small. So all of you may claim up to 1 million sq miles more (between all of us we could claim the territory of the former USSR, so it's not that much). My nation claims Bermuda, the Bahamas, and all the islands of the Carribean.
No Taxes
15-01-2007, 01:30
I'll take the Democratic Republic of Congo, Tanzania, Rwanda and Burundi. This is a little over 1 million sq. miles but my population density is still over 500 people per square mile.
Cortellen
15-01-2007, 01:37
I will take the Ukraine, Turkey, France, Spain, and Portugal.
Aiutar
15-01-2007, 01:44
I'll take Indonesia, Malaysia, and Taiwan.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 02:16
All claims noted, and maps updated.
No Taxes
15-01-2007, 03:10
All claims noted, and maps updated.
You forgot to add in Tanzania.
Koramerica
15-01-2007, 03:42
I'd like Argentina, Peru, Colombia, & Panama
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 06:54
I'd like Argentina, Peru, Colombia, & Panama

That's way more than 1 million sq. mi, Argentina alone is 1 million. What's your population density with that?
Kormanthor
15-01-2007, 07:01
OK ... how about Colombia, & Panama?
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 07:02
OK ... how about Colombia, & Panama?

How about Bolivia, Paraguay, and Ururguay? that'll keep your claim in one piece. You'll also get much of the world's tin deposits, and a good harbor on Rio de la Plata, at Montevideo.
Kormanthor
15-01-2007, 07:06
How about Bolivia, Paraguay, and Ururguay? that'll keep your claim in one piece.

I want Panama for sure because of the canal, colombia just happens to be between Brazil and Panama.
Havvy
15-01-2007, 07:09
I like my land grabs, but anyways, I think that is too much technology for me to grasp. Can we have a list of things that are acceptable somewhere (that could be a single post update by Maineiacs, and it has a description of what they are?

Maybe that'd be too much hard work, so I guess I could do it if you don't Maineiacs....
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 07:09
I want Panama for sure because of the canal.

Ok, Columbia, Panama, Paraguay, and Uruguay? Can't include bolivia with that, because it'd be over the limit.
Koramerica
15-01-2007, 07:11
Ok, Columbia, Panama, Paraguay, and Uruguay? Can't include bolivia with that, because it'd be over the limit.


I can live with that ... Thank You. I just realizied I was using the wrong country.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 07:13
I like my land grabs, but anyways, I think that is too much technology for me to grasp. Can we have a list of things that are acceptable somewhere (that could be a single post update by Maineiacs, and it has a description of what they are?

Maybe that'd be too much hard work, so I guess I could do it if you don't Maineiacs....

If you can find me a link that describes Post-modern tech, I'll put together a list.
Koramerica
15-01-2007, 07:38
If you can find me a link that describes Post-modern tech, I'll put together a list.



Kormanthor's Post Modern Technology Storefront describes the Post Modern Technology Timeline as starting in 2026 & ending in 2105.
Wasted Genius
15-01-2007, 07:42
I'd like to claim the UK and Ireland. The UK includes Scotland, England, Wales, North Ireland, Shetland Islands and Rockall Islands.

I'd also like the Faroe Islands and Svalbard Islands. Faroe I. normally belongs to Denmark and Svalbard to Norway, but I'd like to separate them if possible, since nobody has claimed either Denmark or Norway. Svalbard is due north of Norway, just before you get to the arctic circle.

The total claim is about 146,000 square miles of some of the most miserable weather anywhere, but I think it has a certain homely charm, and I think I can fix the place up real nice.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 08:12
I'd like to claim the UK and Ireland. The UK includes Scotland, England, Wales, North Ireland, Shetland Islands and Rockall Islands.

I'd also like the Faroe Islands and Svalbard Islands. Faroe I. normally belongs to Denmark and Svalbard to Norway, but I'd like to separate them if possible, since nobody has claimed either Denmark or Norway. Svalbard is due north of Norway, just before you get to the arctic circle.

The total claim is about 146,000 square miles of some of the most miserable weather anywhere, but I think it has a certain homely charm, and I think I can fix the place up real nice.

Thanks, but I know where they are. You also get the Channel Islands (Jersey & Guernsey). I'll note your claims. Svalbard isn't on my maps, but I'll remember you have it.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 08:20
Kormanthor's Post Modern Technology Storefront describes the Post Modern Technology Timeline as starting in 2026 & ending in 2105.

Can you get me a link? I can't find it.
Havvy
15-01-2007, 08:24
Actually, I would like to claim the two small countries to the left of mine, and the two countries to the right of.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 08:27
Actually, I would like to claim the two small countries to the left of mine, and the two countries to the right of.

More specific, please. There are 3 small countries to your left, and 4 to your right; not to mention Denmark to your north.
Havvy
15-01-2007, 08:49
Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Poland, Denmark, and Czhech Rep.

I believe they are the names. It's hard to find any map on a computer with 16 colors on it.

That's going to fill in some gaps for me I guess.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 08:52
Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Poland, Denmark, and Czhech Rep.

I believe they are the names. It's hard to find any map on a computer with 16 colors on it.

That's going to fill in some gaps for me I guess.

you already had Poland and the Czech Republic
Havvy
15-01-2007, 09:04
Alright, well, whatever they are called.

The four countries to the east of it than.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 09:09
Alright, well, whatever they are called.

The four countries to the east of it than.

Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. Done. I'm also giving you Liechtenstien (between Switerland and Austria).
Havvy
15-01-2007, 09:13
Alright. Sorry for making a bid deal about it. I'm not good with country names, and they are hard to find with a 16-color monitor.

Anyways, I am officially at the 250 post mark.

I post a lot more here, than I did at the last forum I was at.
Cortellen
15-01-2007, 20:24
Europe looks like it will be good.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 20:25
I need people's opinions: do we leave the thread open for awhile longer, or go ahead and start the RP?
Cortellen
15-01-2007, 20:29
I am all for starting. I am assuming that our country's pop is our NS pop.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 20:41
That's the plan, yes. W00t! 3.5 billion hippies! :D
Koramerica
15-01-2007, 20:48
I need people's opinions: do we leave the thread open for awhile longer, or go ahead and start the RP?


I vote to go ahead and start
No Taxes
15-01-2007, 20:49
Yeah I agree, the longer we wait, the more people that lose interest.
Koramerica
15-01-2007, 20:49
I am all for starting. I am assuming that our country's pop is our NS pop.


Koramerica's population was 795 Million the last time I checked, and Kormanthor's is around 7.4 Billion.
No Taxes
15-01-2007, 20:52
Koramerica's population was 795 Million the last time I checked, and Kormanthor's is around 7.4 Billion.
Just reached 2 billion.
Kormanthor
15-01-2007, 21:08
Just reached 2 billion.


Congrads
No Taxes
15-01-2007, 21:13
Congrads
Thanks, is Koramerica your puppet?
Havvy
15-01-2007, 21:28
My 600 million people feel left out of this huge population talk.

Anyways, is the thread started? I'll go look.
Maineiacs
15-01-2007, 21:37
It'll be started this evening. I have some stuff to do IRL first.

BTW, look where? I'm stil not cleart on exactly what it is you're expecting me to do. I was going to have the thread on this site because I don't know any other way to do it.
No Taxes
15-01-2007, 21:45
I was going to have the thread on this site because I don't know any other way to do it.
I think it is best to keep it on this site, so it gets more visibility.
Cortellen
15-01-2007, 21:58
My pop feels very very small now...I have 187 million.
Wasted Genius
15-01-2007, 23:22
I need people's opinions: do we leave the thread open for awhile longer, or go ahead and start the RP?

I say we should start the RP as soon as we can. Now that I've got the Cow Islands I'm ready to er, get a moooove on. (thanks by the way for Jersey and Geurnsey, I missed those in my research)
Aiutar
16-01-2007, 00:37
Yeah, we should start pretty soon. By the way, nice pun.
Koramerica
16-01-2007, 01:32
Thanks, is Koramerica your puppet?


Thats what most people would call it I guess. Kormanthor is FT Only, plus it is rather large which makes some smaller countries nervous. So I made Koramerica to RP the NFT, PMT & MT Threads.
Maineiacs
16-01-2007, 02:33
IC thread is up.
Wanderjar
16-01-2007, 02:37
Is this still accepting members?
Candistan
16-01-2007, 03:44
Would it be at all possible for me to claim Russia?
Maineiacs
16-01-2007, 08:27
Wanderjar: yes, welcome. Make a claim.

Candistan: yes, as long as you understand that for now, that's all you're getting.

Both of you pick a color.
Cortellen
16-01-2007, 08:50
Well I made the first IC post in the thread.
Maineiacs
17-01-2007, 02:16
*bump so the new applicants can reply*
Candistan
17-01-2007, 03:30
Yeah, I'm cool with Only Russia for now. My color will be Dark Red.
Maineiacs
17-01-2007, 04:54
Yeah, I'm cool with Only Russia for now. My color will be Dark Red.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming you have at least the minimum 600,000,000 population to control that much land.
Candistan
17-01-2007, 04:56
My NS nation has 1.111 Billion
Maineiacs
17-01-2007, 04:59
That'll do. Russia's 6 million sq. mi. require a NS population of 600 million to 6 billion. You're fine. Welcome to the RP. Go on to the IC thread and introduce your country.
Kratt
17-01-2007, 13:34
I'm still in. Can someone give me a update what have happened? witch countries have been claimed? Sorry for my abstains I have been sick...
Maineiacs
17-01-2007, 16:49
Look on page 1 of this thread to see the maps; anything not colored in is available, as is Antarctica.
Kratt
17-01-2007, 23:48
Look on page 1 of this thread to see the maps; anything not colored in is available, as is Antarctica.



Sorry... cant find the map
No Taxes
18-01-2007, 00:01
Sorry... cant find the map
It is near the bottom of the 2nd page.
Maineiacs
18-01-2007, 00:03
I forgot you would likely have your settings different than mine. The maps are on post #27.
Havvy
18-01-2007, 00:51
Can you move them to post 1, or better yet, make a new thread altogether?

I would like to see the world as the first thread, because it helps people with a slow connection (as they don't have to wait to the 27th post to find the land grabs).
Maineiacs
18-01-2007, 08:12
*bump*
Kratt
18-01-2007, 15:33
OK I would claim, Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait and the united Arab Emirates. In other words the muslim parts of the middle east
Maineiacs
18-01-2007, 21:32
You need to pick a color.
Kratt
18-01-2007, 22:16
ok I'll be black......
Kratt
18-01-2007, 22:17
btw do we have a IC thread? has anything happened yet?
Cortellen
19-01-2007, 00:39
btw do we have a IC thread? has anything happened yet?

Yes and yes.
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 02:05
Can I please claim China?
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 02:08
Can I please claim China?

If your NS population is between 380,000,000 and 3,800,000,000 then yes.


Pick a color
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 02:14
If your NS population is between 380,000,000 and 3,800,000,000 then yes.


Pick a color

I'll take, red. I have a few questions.

Q1: This is PMT right?

Q2: Do we start out with the military our nation already has?

Q3: Or do we jsut make up PMT equipment?

Q4: What percentage of our pop do I use?

Q5: Do I use chinas real pop. or my NS nations pop.
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 02:18
By any chance can i claim anymore land?
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 02:25
I'll take, red. I have a few questions.

Q1: This is PMT right?

Q2: Do we start out with the military our nation already has?

Q3: Or do we jsut make up PMT equipment?

Q4: What percentage of our pop do I use?

Q5: Do I use chinas real pop. or my NS nations pop.

You can't have red. I only have two shades of red, and they're both claimed.

A1: yes, PMT

A2: that depends on what millitary your nation has

A3: do research on what PMT tech is, and read the first page of this thread to see what's forbidden.

A4: all of it.

A5: Your NS nation.
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 04:03
You can't have red. I only have two shades of red, and they're both claimed.

A1: yes, PMT

A2: that depends on what millitary your nation has

A3: do research on what PMT tech is, and read the first page of this thread to see what's forbidden.

A4: all of it.

A5: Your NS nation.

What do you mean by depends on what your nation has?

I know pretty much what PMT is. Your front page donst really say what is forbidden or not.
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 10:44
What do you mean by depends on what your nation has?

I know pretty much what PMT is. Your front page donst really say what is forbidden or not.

You asked if you start with the millitary your nation has. That depends on if you fit the parameters of PMT and what I've set out here, and if your army size is realistic. Here are the relevant posts.

OK, folks, sorry I'm late. Before we get into bidding, Let's lay down the rules:


1) No goddmoding. The era is post-modern tech, so while your nation may have a space program (if you can afford it, and RP the R&D), you do not have a fleet of Starships with warp drive and photon torpedos. Also, no pulling 50 million man armies out of your ass (or anyone else's ass, for that matter). Jet fighters can make intercontinental journeys in a few hours NOT 10 minutes, and they'll surely be seen on radar. and post your losses, not your opponent's.

2. The NS rules of RP ettiqute are in force here. I don't mind good-natured teasing, but if you have a serious problem with someone (even me), don't make verbal attacks on the thread, TG me, and we'll work it out.

3. Related to goddmoding, be realistic in your tech R&D. That means both in regards to timetables, and to having the usual setbacks, stalls, budgetary concerns, and mishaps.

4. RPing a war is fun, if it's done right, but try to come up with other stuff to RP as well. Anything from diplomatic and trade relations, to elections, to internal insurrections (I did that on the old thread, it was a blast), or even the pop culture of your nation.

Now some technical stuff:

The starting date is January, 2134. RP time progresses at 1 month per 1 day in RT.

claims can be posted here, so that the RP thread doesn't get clogged up with this stuff.

The amount of land you can claim is based on your NS population. Try to shoot for no more than 1000 people per sq. mile, and no less than 100. Hopefully this will leave some areas unclaimed, which can be either claimed by latecomers, or disputed diplomattically or millitarily IC.

Total land areas of nations can be found here.

http://www.infoplease.com/countries.html

just click on the nation you want, and it'll have its statistics listed.

OK, everyone, let's get this going. My last bit of business is to remind you all that the decisions of me, the God-emperor of Earth NA are final. If I'm not available, then talk to Wasted Genius, and his decision is final.

When you make your claim, let me know what color you want to be.


Antarctica is also open for bids. In this world, even though it wouldn't even be possible IRL, the Ice caps don't exist, except in the Arctic Ocean and seaonal ice around the shore of Antarctica. Coastal Antarctica and Greenland both have a cold-pine forest climate, Greenland like central Alaska, Antarctica is more like Siberia. The interiors are tundra. Antarctica can either be owned as a whole (5,400,000 sq. mi.) or split into hemishperes. The eastern hemisphere contains 2/3 of the land mass, but the western hemisphere has the only ports that don't freeze up in the winter.

I need to know if your stuff is acceptable. For example: no laser guns (I might allow slow and difficult R&D toward a laser cannon, but no rifles or pistols. Railgun R&D is acceptable), "primitive" hover tanks are acceptable, but nothing that resembles a giant anime robot, no warp-drive starfighters, no cyborgs (again, you can start R&D, but I won't allow you to have them right off), no clone armies, nothing super-exotic that can rip a wormhole open, or anything like that, and no time-travel.

So BF 2142 is a good example of what military equipment would be like?

That depends on what, exactly, BF 2142 means.

Battlefield 2142 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2142), the PC game.

Possibly, but it looked like that had starfighters -- which aren't allowed -- or am I mistaken about that?

This should be fine, but I'd want you to RP the R&D of that ship, and possibly the propulsion system, depending on what it is. Incidentally everyone, R&D for workable fusion power is allowed.

Hmm. I never played Battefield 2142, but it looks like another game I'm a bit familiar with...

If we're going to do the pseudo-mech thing, just watch out for the 50 foot titanium punji sticks (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/wasted_genius/Punji.jpg). :rolleyes:

The way I'm reading you Maineiacs is that you'd like to avoid the magical-nobody-knows-how-it-works-but-me tactic. We've been there and everybody just ends up scratching there head trying to figure out how to post a reply. I'm with you if thats the case. I like new tech, just as long as it doesn't involve learning a bunch of different stuff to RP it. Sorry No Taxes, no offense intended. I'll dive into your tech if you first can convince me that it'll be entertaining on some level.

Also, Havvy I'm on board with the name of World Council, sounds appropriate. Maybe the RL UN should take a clue and consider a name change too. The UN is n't all that united these days....

You've pretty much got it. If anyone does spring a mech on the rest of us, that post will simply be nullified. I'm not certain I'm being as clear as I'd like to be though, so I am thinking of judging weapons on a case-by-case basis.

BTW, Havvy, we'll start on Monday. I want to see if anyone else signs up.

I'm still working on R & D ( to be manufactured ) items, as far as lasers I will only use them as they exist in the RL. I'm working on a Rail Gun, a hover tank, and a few other things I will add later.

Purchased Items

54 HJ-58 Phoenix’

16 Hypersonic Bomber Configuration
16 Orbital Bomber Configuration
14 Orbital Spy Plane Configuration
8 Executive Transport Configuration
20 Sky Wolf Attack Helicopters
1 Kormitz-Class Carrier: with modifications to launch subs under the waterline.
6 Cormetz-Class Carriers
34 Aerial Class Subs
20 Coral Skimmer Class Attack Subs, Carrier based or independent operation.


Statistics

Displacement: 280 tons
Foilborne Power Plant: 20,000 horsepower waterjet
Hullborne Power Plant: 2 x 2,400 horsepower waterjets
Foils Extended Length: 148 feet
Foils Retracted Length: 160 feet
Beam: 32 feet
Foilborne Speed: 55 knots
Hullborne Speed: 20 knots
Crew Complement: 18

Features

AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
S1850 3-D Air Surveillance Radar
Mk 23 Target Acquisition Radar
Mk 92 Fire Control System
Mk 91 NSSM Guidance System

Electronic Warfare and Decoys
Laser Warning
EMP Shielding
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite (Jamming/Deception)
AN/SLQ-25A Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
Mk72 Degaussing System
2 x Decoy Launcher

Armament

20mm Retractable Phalanx CIWS x2
Otobreda 76mm Gun
M312 50 cal. Heavy Machine Gun x2

Plus:
Tomahawk Cruise Missile Battery (9 missiles each)
RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile Battery (9 missiles)
RIM-7 Sea Sparrow AA Missile Battery (9 missiles)

20 AR-3 Armored Combat Land rovers
520 Landing Hoover Craft
2 Ohio Class Subs w/ one Coral Skimmer for each
32 Oceanview Class Sub w/ one Aerial Sub for each
10 Spy Configuration Super Oil Tankers w one Aerial Sub, one Coral Skimmer for each.

2 Champion Class Super Carriers

Statistics

Displacement: 370,000 tons
Power Plant: Eight A4W Nuclear Reactors
Shafts: 16
Length: 510 meters
Beam: 110 meters
Flight Deck Width: 140 meters
Speed: 32 knots
Crew Complement: 9,740 including air crew
Aircraft: 170 planes and 15 helicopters

Features

SAMPSON Multi-Function Air Tracking Radar
AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
AN/SPS-49(V)1 2-D Air Search Radar
S1850 3-D Air Surveillance Radar
AN/SPN-46 Air Traffic Control Radar x2
AN/SPN-43B Air Traffic Control Radar
AN/SPN-44 Landing Aid Radar
VSR Volume Search Radar
AN/SGS-55 Surface Search Radar
MFS-7000 Sonar
AN/WQN Doppler Sonar Velocity Log System
Mk 23 Target Acquisition Radar
Mk 91 NSSM Guidance System x3
Mk 95 Radars x3

Electronic Warfare and Decoys
Laser Warning
EMP Shielding
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite (Jamming/Deception)
AN/SLQ-25A Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
Mk 53 Nulka Decoy Launching System
Mk72 Degaussing System
4 x Decoy Launchers
FCSSM Fleet Counter Surveillance Satellite Module

Armament
8 x RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Point-Defense Missile Batteries (12 missiles each)
8 x RIM-7 Sea Sparrow AA Missile Batteries (9 missiles each)
12 x 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS

Armor
Belt: 12.1 in
Bulkheads: 11.3 in
Barbettes: 11.6-17.3 in
Decks: 7.5 in
Flight Deck: 9.8 in

Picture
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/r.../carrier-3.jpg



10 Agamemnon Class Battleships


Statistics
Displacement: 45,000 empty/58,000 full
Length: 877 ft 3 in
Beam: 108 ft 2 in
Draft: 38 ft
Speed: 32 knots
Crew Complement: 1,089
Power Plant: Two A4W Nuclear Reactors
Shafts: 4

Electronics
AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar
S1850 3-D Air Surveillance Radar
SAMPSON Multi-Function Air Tracking Radar
AN/SPG Fire Control Radar
AN/SGS-55 Surface Search Radar
AN/SPQ-9 Gun Fire Control Radar
MFS-7000 Sonar
AN/WLR-1H ESM
AN/WQN Doppler Sonar Velocity Log System
Volume Search Radar (VSR)

Countermeasures
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite (Jamming/Deception)
SSTD Surface Ship Torpedo Defense System
AN/SLQ-25A Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
MK-53 Nulka Decoy Launching System
MK72 Degaussing System
FCSSM Fleet Counter Surveillance Satellite Module *original*
Laser Warning
EMP Shielding

Armament
9x16 in (406mm) 50 cal. Mark 7 guns w/ autoloader (5 rounds per minute)
12x5 in (125mm) 38 cal. Mark 12 guns w/ autoloader (20 rounds per minute)
32xBGM-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
16xRGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles
4x30 mm Goalkeeper CIWS
2xSea RAM Defense Batteries (11 missiles each battery)
18xMark-32 Mod 15 Surface Vessel Torpedo Tubes
20xM312 50 cal. heavy machine guns
4xM307 Advanced Objective Crew Served Weapons

Armor
Belt: 12.1 in
Bulkheads: 11.3 in
Barbettes: 11.6-17.3 in
Turrets: 19.7 in
Decks: 7.5 in

Pictures
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...adside_USN.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sconsin_bb.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_tomohawk.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er_cropped.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ht_torpedo.jpg



1 Cormetz-Class Carrier
1 Kormarian Class Carrier
10 Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruisers/Arsenal Class Stealth Missile Cruiser
16 Zumwalt Class Stealth Missile Destroyers
16 Daring Class Air Defense Destroyers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer

16 Brandenburg Class Stealth ASW Frigates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_class_frigate

6 Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
20 Allegro/Virginia/Seawolf Class Attack Submarines
2 ASDS Advanced SEAL Delivery Systems
6 Safeguard Class Damage Control Ships
6 Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ships
50 SH-60 Seahawk Helicopters (Blackhawk naval variant)
38 AH-64D Apache Longbow Helicopters
20 CH-46 Sea Knight Helicopters
10 CH-53 Super Stallion Helicopters
116 F/A 401 Birds of Prey
110 F-35 Lightning II’s
110 F-18E Super Hornets
4 E-2C Hawkeyes

1230 KorStrike Fighters

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/JSFLanding.jpg


The KorStrike Fighter (KSF) is a multi-role fighter optimized for the air-to-ground role, designed to affordably meet the needs of the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and allies, with improved survivability, precision engagement capability, the mobility necessary for future joint operations and the reduced life cycle costs associated with tomorrow’s fiscal environment. KSF will benefit from many of the same technologies developed for F-22 and will capitalize on commonality and modularity to maximize affordability. The KSF program will demonstrate two competing weapon system concepts for a tri-service family of aircraft to affordably meet these service needs:

456 V-22 Osprey

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/v-22.htm

The V-22 Osprey is a tiltrotor vertical/short takeoff and landing (VSTOL), multi-mission air-craft developed to fill multi-Service combat operational requirements. The MV-22 will replace the current Marine Corps assault helicopters in the medium lift category (CH-46E and CH-53D), contributing to the dominant maneuver of the Marine landing force, as well as supporting focused logistics in the days following commencement of an amphibious operation. The Air Force variant, the CV-22, will replace the MH-53J and MH-60G and augment the MC-130 fleet in the USSOCOM Special Operations mission. The Air Force requires the CV-22 to provide a long-range VTOL insertion and extraction capability. The tiltrotor design combines the vertical flight capabilities of a helicopter with the speed and range of a turboprop airplane and permits aerial refueling and world-wide self deployment.

20 Vetiport_bell609 (( Civilian Tiltrotor (VSTOL),

2 Space Stations

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/Kormanthor2/space_station.gif

Space Station Stats:

Mass: 2,080,000 lbs
Width: 712 ft
Length: 780 ft

Almost 2 acres of solar panels to provide electrical power to twelve state-of-the-art laboratories.


12 Korde Class Spaceships

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/dy100beautysmall.jpg

Ships Complement: 22
Length: 100 m
Beam: 23.37 m
Draught: 34.9 m
Weight: 2.72 mil kg
Range: Standard 900,000 km
Maximum 387,000,000 km
Speed: Earth Escape 38,000 km / hr
Cruising 55,000 km / hr
Maximum 80,000 km / hr
Modules: Cargo, Fuel & Passager Modules are Interchangable
Propulsion: Fission Ion Rocket Engine
Navigation: Optical Tracker; Controled Inertial Guidance
Communications: Laser Radiotelemetry

12 Scramliners ( Civilian Scram Jet Passager Plane )
2 Floating Cities
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/FreedomShiprear_high.jpg


Moon Base
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/Kormanthor2/MoonBase.jpg

Kordberg Class Earth / Moon Ferry

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/stellarfordbeautysmall.jpg

Length: 183 m
Weight: 4750 tons
Ships Complement: 102
Propulsion: Two Fission Ion Rocket Engines
Speed: Cruising 135,000 km / hr
Number Owned: 12

The UES Space Shuttle

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/x33-5_300-s.jpg

The UES flies much like the Space Shuttle. It takes off vertically and lands on a runway. However, there are differences between the two vehicles. The UES is a means of transport only. It is not used as a science platform like the original Space Shuttle. Also, the UES is a single-stage-to-orbit spacecraft it does not drop off components on its way to orbit. It relys totally on its own built-in engines to reach orbit, omitting the need for additional boosters. Unlike the original shuttle, the UES uses a new linear aerospike engine, which looks and runs much differently than the bell-shaped Space Shuttle Main Engine. Kore Tech considered the aerospike engine for the Space Shuttle 25 years ago, but opted to use the Space Shuttle Main Engine, also built by Koretdyne. The aerospike has been revived and enhanced to power the UES. The aerospike nozzle is shaped like an inverted bell nozzle. Where a bell nozzle begins small and widens toward the opening of the nozzle like a cone, the aerospike decreases in width toward the opening of the nozzle. The aerospike is 75 percent shorter than an equivalent bell nozzle engine. It is also lighter, and its form blends well with the UES's lifting body airframe for lower drag during flight. The shape spreads thrust loads evenly at the base of the vehicle, causing less structural weight, which allows it to obtain vehicle speeds in excess of Mach 15.

Number Owned: 12


http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormantho...avyFighter.jpg

KA-1 Starfighter

Type: Interceptor
Length: 12 meters
Top Speed:
Power / Engines: Fussion / Ion
Crew: 2 pilot & gunner
Cargo Capacity: 180 lbs
Hull/Armor: 6 centimeters of Advanced Composite Armor
Laser Range Finder

Weapons:

Two 20mm Gatling guns

You can build the moonbase, but you don't get it for free. same for the floating cities. Don't expect to be the only one with these things though (I'm going to Mars, feel free to follow me;) ), The star fighter is out. Are these [other ships] civillian or millitary? If they're civillian, R&D them, or at least RP production (and convince me your nation can afford 12 of them). No one will have a starfleet. I need more info on this:[weapon system] . Everything else is fine. Thank you for having a realistic amount of them. In the original Earth NA, I had one guy who tried to convince me to let him have 1000 Battleships.



Sorry for the length of the post, but it contains a lot of pertenent info. If youi have more questions, feel free to ask. Whether you can claim more deppends on your NS population.
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 16:07
You asked if you start with the millitary your nation has. That depends on if you fit the parameters of PMT and what I've set out here, and if your army size is realistic. Here are the relevant posts.

Yes! I get it now. Alright. So basicly its MT on crack. So are SDs in or out here? I know some let them and some forbid them. I'm guessing by your post scram jets are in. so thanks!

Since my pop is 3.79 billion could i claim Mongolia to?
Koramerica
19-01-2007, 17:17
Yes! I get it now. Alright. So basicly its MT on crack. So are SDs in or out here? I know some let them and some forbid them. I'm guessing by your post scram jets are in. so thanks!

Since my pop is 3.79 billion could i claim Mongolia to?


Accually I think this is PMT isn't it? I know scram jets are allowed.
Koramerica
19-01-2007, 17:20
Maineiacs do we need a military declaration page, if so will you make a thread for them to be posted in or should we make them individually?
Koramerica
19-01-2007, 17:23
Can I claim the pacific ocean, with no land?

In all due seriousness, I guess I could start up a second country. Let the nation of Havaco be formed! I shall claim the midwestern states of America, if that is alright. Let the nation of Havaco be formed.


An underwater community is an interesting concept
Koramerica
19-01-2007, 18:00
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/spacemarines_485.jpg

I would like to add the craft above as a new type of military transport in my military. What do you think Maineiacs?


Here's a tech link:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace/f2c1d65a5f59f010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 20:26
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/spacemarines_485.jpg

I would like to add the craft above as a new type of military transport in my military. What do you think Maineiacs?


Here's a tech link:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace/f2c1d65a5f59f010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

Acceptable, if everyone gets them. I'm afraid that it would give an unfair advantage. I'd prefer millitary victory comes from superior number and/or superior tactics/logistics, not who has the coolest toys.
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 20:26
Maineiacs do we need a military declaration page, if so will you make a thread for them to be posted in or should we make them individually?

Good idea. I'll make one.
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 20:28
Yes! I get it now. Alright. So basicly its MT on crack. So are SDs in or out here? I know some let them and some forbid them. I'm guessing by your post scram jets are in. so thanks!

Since my pop is 3.79 billion could i claim Mongolia to?

yes. Done, now pick a color other than red.
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 22:12
yes. Done, now pick a color other than red.

Yellow?

And I would like to be named the Peoples Republic

Can I get links to the other threads that have to do with ENA?
Maineiacs
19-01-2007, 22:34
Yellow?

And I would like to be named the Peoples Republic

Can I get links to the other threads that have to do with ENA?

Yellow is fine.

Just "The People's Republic"? of "The People's Republic" of what?

Here's the IC thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514572

And this is the OOC thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514681

I will also be creating a thread where members can post their millitary numbers and equipment.
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 23:03
Yellow is fine.

Just "The People's Republic"? of "The People's Republic" of what?

Here's the IC thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514572

And this is the OOC thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514681

I will also be creating a thread where members can post their millitary numbers and equipment.

People Repbulic of China
Dweladelfia prime
19-01-2007, 23:12
So far i've looked at Chinas Military and all they have are some crappy older Russian copys of everything. So should I make my own units?
Maineiacs
20-01-2007, 00:03
So far i've looked at Chinas Military and all they have are some crappy older Russian copys of everything. So should I make my own units?

Yes, just keep it realistic, and PMT. Remember, China is Communist in name only, they're the real world's fastest-growing economy, and in 130 years, they're going to be rolling in cash, and spending a lot of it on millitary hardware.
Dweladelfia prime
20-01-2007, 00:57
Yes, just keep it realistic, and PMT. Remember, China is Communist in name only, they're the real world's fastest-growing economy, and in 130 years, they're going to be rolling in cash, and spending a lot of it on millitary hardware.

Ya, I know its Communist. But its a "Peoples Republic" nuf said.
Kratt
22-01-2007, 13:29
could anyone please give me a link to the IC thread??? please?
Maineiacs
22-01-2007, 16:27
Here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514572


There it is. You know, this is why you read the thread. This link was on this page already, just 5 posts higher.
Koramerica
29-01-2007, 14:41
Please excuse my absense as I have been sick the past week with this stupid cold thats going around. But I am getting better now
Havvy
29-01-2007, 23:11
You didn't miss anything...