NationStates Jolt Archive

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I'm Blue, Skinny87 is Green.

The capital is divided as pictured.

ALL OOC BELONGS HERE. You can put OOC as long as it is part of a substantial IC post.

Have you got msn or IRC, Leaf? And what about DBs confusing posts about the resistance?

K.

So no In Character stuff here.

Have you got msn or IRC, Leaf? And what about DBs confusing posts about the resistance?

I've got AIM and Google Talk. I can be on IRC, where do you want me?

Excuse me, is my forceful introduction of Rush to your people going to be ignored?

I've got AIM and Google Talk. I can be on IRC, where do you want me?

#Boerstaat, irc.esper.net

I'm on MSN if anyone wants to talk and sort some of this mess out

Leafanistan, you have a telegram

Die Boerstaat: You understand that the Grand Monarchy is also occupying much of your country, yes? Some acknowledgment of that would greatly aid the RP...

I'm on awb777@hotmail.co.uk

I'm on awb777@hotmail.co.uk

Added. Let us hope we can discuss civilly.

Skinny ran off crying as I'd predicted, he couldn't take the truth.

Anway forget about this, I'm not doing this thread, he's told me about various users and I don't waste my time with such people.

Skinny ran off crying as I'd predicted, he couldn't take the truth.

Anway forget about this, I'm not doing this thread, he's told me about various users and I don't waste my time with such people.

Look, your country has been invaded; you cannot let OOC reasons stop you from RPing ICly, whatever your OOC views are. Surely that too would be 'Running off crying'?

Just continue to RP your resistance.

That or make a new nation and just accept you've been anexed.

Look people, okay, but I want certain agreements to be made. Deal and please tell me what you said about yourself and Skgorria was untrue.

Look people, okay, but I want certain agreements to be made. Deal and please tell me what you said about yourself and Skgorria was untrue.

Views aside, what are these deals?

Yes, what are these deals?

And what have you been told about me, I'm most curious....

Yes, what are these deals?

And what have you been told about me, I'm most curious....

TG winging your way...

TNB - Where are these armies you're referring to? If they're in Die Boerstaat...how did they get there exactly?

Well, at least you provided a map. Okay, since you're a Newbie, lets see if we can't help you along here.

1. You need to explain how all your forces got into Die Boerstaat

2. They appear to be attacking from Skgorria. How did they get there, and do you have his permission to attack from there?

3. In order to defend from the NLF's attacks, I'll need more details of what exactly you're attacking with, and some more detailed attack posts.

Do these, and you should be well on the way to being an excellent RPer. You're certainly doing better than I did the first time!

We want a good piece of our land, the release of Mr. Scheckler after a few months to keep the piece and that's it.

I would be very interested in knowing the answers to these questions, especially as I posted when TNB posted and now my post makes no sense :( Nonetheless, excellent first post.

I'll edit/repost when TNB has answered all of these questions

Skinny87, telegrammed back

Well on MSN this man, Skinny17, said that you were a black.

I am here to explain crap:

and excuse the spelling :p

Chosen Army (CA): A religous cult that believes the white man is the only good race. Blacks are believed to be spawns of Satan himself. The Chosen Army was formed before the NLF, but after an alliance was signed, the Chosen Army is now considered a radical group of the NLF. They only have several thousand followers which are mostly made up of young white females from the ages of 17-26. However, the Chosen Army has recently been gaining support in several countries. Not only does this allow for the recruitment of new members, but also makes the transportation of funds and arms much easier.

National Liberation Front (NLF): This pro-white resistence movement controls almost all of the pro-white resistence movements. In exchange for alliance, the NLF supplies other resistence movements with intellegence, weapons, and funds. The NLF is mostly made up of former members of the armed services. It has established a provisional goverment in place of the former goverment which they unseated from power. Only the NLF has the power to initiate a full-scale assault, however most of the anti-black riots were fueled by one of the many NLF radio or TV stations. The NLF is headed by the President of the provisional goverment himself.

I'll explain the other resistence movements later.

Good to know ANB, but what really needs explaining is:

1. You need to explain how all your forces got into Die Boerstaat

2. They appear to be attacking from my zone. I'll agree that they can, providing you can come up with a decent reason why they survived there and haven't been horribly squashed

3. In order to defend from the NLF's attacks, we'll need more details of what exactly you're attacking with, and some more detailed attack posts.

They aren't my forces. They're revolutionary forces that are getting supplied by me. They were able to survive so well because of their ability to blend in with the native population and their mobility through the devestated urban landscape. They're mostly using A-91 Compacts or Ak-47s, however they also have a bunch of RPG-7Vs, Simonov SKS Carbines, FIM-43 Redeyes, and they even appear to have Type 55-II, T-34/85s, and IS-2 tanks.

Futhermore, the CA generally uses the Ak-47, while the NLF tends to use the A-91 Compacts, but since the NLF is more of a militia then it is an actual army, the weapons the militia men use differs. The NLF is the one with most of the tanks and other good equipment, but the CA was somehow able to gain access to some T-34/85s and even a few IS-2s. The Freedom Militia generally uses the SKS Carbine, but have been known to use mortars, armored pickup trucks, and even have several heavy gun emplacements under their control. The NLF is the one that supplies the other resistence movements with their weapons and ammo which is brought in by me in shipments made by USSNB goverment owned charity orginizations to build schools ,hosptials, police stations, etc., All the armies use any RPG or anti-air missile they can get their hands on since they're rather hard to come by.

DB:

You can respond when I do things. You see, I only mentioned I'm starting to subdue the rioters. You can take the role of the rioters and resist. You can take the role of an outraged racist family who doesn't want to give up their children to DBRA authorites.

That is what makes an interesting RP.

I'll concede that the current, maybe the next generation (20 years) will be racist right wing thugs. But you had a preinvasion population of 12 million. You said around 25% the population isn't racist. And we are moving in colonists. In time there will be millions of the, overwhelming the population.

Then we take the children. I'll take all the children and reeducate them. Within possible 3 generations and with colonization I'll soon easily overwhelm your racist thugs. They'll go to jail, soon they won't be given 'breeding licenses' and the population will die. It may take a hundred years, but we are patient.

DB, I would strongly suggest you begin RPing your resistance against all the invading forces.

I'm not invading...I'm a regional group I want the invadors gone. If anything he should help me kill the infidels.

Now I'm confused. Did he just break into city hall which is controlled by me and I am not not an invador nor am I a black supporter. WTF!?!?

Now I'm confused. Did he just break into city hall which is controlled by me and I am not not an invador nor am I a black supporter. WTF!?!?


Check your telegrams

Okay NB, assume you nicked a few assorted trucks and APCs, along with munitions, fuel and small arms.

How far are your troops from my front lines?

The ones in the city are about 10 km from your lines, while the ones in the back have mostly retreated and blended back in with the rest of the people. I am however requesting specs on this 'Taub-3'.

Sure, Taub-3 is basically Tabun but configured for airburst (I know nothing about biology, almost failed the GCSE so really stabbing in the dark)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabun_%28nerve_agent%29

The UNs gonna have your head for that

Well when you said "improve the econamy and rebuild the country" I didnt know you meant it. Not only did you kill a large percentage of the working people, but you've now toxicated a nice big area and opened up jobs for countless people. Go Freedom!

What UN? :p

I'll have Queen Amidala plead my case to the UN

Fair enough. All your men are dead anyway, hurrah for Tabun-3!

The great thing is you cannot move up and secure the land because um oh yeah YOU DROPPED TABUN-3 ON IT

I have my ways :p

You RP your response, I'll show you how I deal with it

NB, in the post when you open fire on the Skgorrian troops outside the capital you say

As the Skgorrian forces lay dug in their fortifacations, Freedom Militia men moved silently through the night. Within three and a half hours, they were ready

To me, this implies you are making a dawn assault, but then you say

Nearly the entire frontline was dead or dying save for a few battalions in reserve and a few men that retreated to sleep for the night.

By my reckoning the events that have taken place (Freedom Militia starting a barrage, Skgorrian troops then horrifically overreacting by deploying bioagents) can't have been more than a few hours, and if you started your attack at dawn then it would be at most midday. I won't post yet, I want your views first

DB - Where exactly are you attacking in that post? Which townhall, exactly? If its the one in Ventersdorp, the dozens of tanks, heliopters and NB soldiers might have stopped such a crowd...

TNB - Excellent posts so far, although a little more description of Skgorria's points would be excellent.

DB - Where exactly are you attacking in that post? Which townhall, exactly? If its the one in Ventersdorp, the dozens of tanks, heliopters and NB soldiers might have stopped such a crowd...

TNB - Excellent posts so far, although a little more description of Skgorria's points would be excellent.

Which town hall, in Ventersdorp there is at least 2, Skinny's and mine. You see, we are pulling a post-war Germany and split up the country. Ventersdorp is now divided. We can rename things can't we?

My capital is now no longer in Greater Ventersdorp and is on a port city. It is now Freetown. I'm renaming cities.

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My section of Die Boerstaat is now known as the Grand Monarchy Occupation Zone - Boerstaat.

It will eventually become Die Boerstaat Colony, but won't be renamed until the population ceases all resistance.

DB - Where is this new country, and how are the people leaving the country that are migrating there?

DB - Where is this new country, and how are the people leaving the country that are migrating there?

My guess is they are walking there. I recommend we shut down all roads and demand they turn over all Die Boerstaat citizens as war criminals.

If not, we invade. His population is too small. I'll begin a massive war machine build up along the border and arrest anyone attempting to cross.

I think only 8.8 million 'Boers' are left in Die Boerstaat based on the stuff DB has given us and preinvasion population.

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New map including Sudafrika. If we do plan an invasion we cut off river based bridges and use land forces to occupy the space between.

Is it satisfactory?

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New map including Sudafrika. If we do plan an invasion we cut off river based bridges and use land forces to occupy the space between.

Is it satisfactory?

Could you please add the following cities in my area - wherever you want:

New Dowland City (Capital)

Hightower

Grantstown

New Ventersdorp

Charlestown


Thanks!

Could you please add the following cities in my area - wherever you want:

New Dowland City (Capital)

Hightower

Grantstown

New Ventersdorp

Charlestown


Thanks!

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Large Yellow Square are capitals, Squares of different sizes represent cities. Circles will represent other things.

Save in .PNG.

Following Skinny97's lead, could you please add the following cities:

- Fenstermacher
- Beckenbauerstadt (New capital, preferably dead centre of the nation)
- Garmishkuedenhudenpurn

and rename the ports the following

- Waveview
- Isengarn
- Volkenwaf
- Gurykath

Sorry about the confusion I am rather new at this. But I did mean they set it up while it was dark and while it was still dark, they launched that barrage. With the few men that went off to sleep, I was trying to show how disorginized the Freedom Militia really was and how much freedom the troops were given. Oh well.

The Northern Baltic, one of the basic rules of roleplaying is that you don't get to call your opponent's losses, otherwise it gets silly and unfair in most cases. Hence when you say
All of their intended targets were shot down save for one, which was badly damaged, but was able to make an emergency landing on a major road.
that's calling someone else's losses. If people start calling each other's losses then it gets silly. Same thing with your attack on the airport, post that you are attacking and allow the defender to try and defend - it may not be a successful defence, but let them defend nonetheless.

Um but I'm afraid of people not being fair with the defence and always winning. However, I will keep that in mind now.

Are the new posts better?

Wow, sorry I missed your first post for so long. Apologies!

I can understand your fears of people not being fair with the defence, but its the whole two-way street trust thing. You trust someone to call his losses fair, and he trusts you to call your losses fair.

Your posts are good, though I was a bit peeved at the one where you RP'd a convoy of mine going into the Capital which I'd deserted. Still, no harm done, as it gave me an excuse for Operation: Feudalism :P

So as I understand it, the forces you RP'd in your most recent post are in German South Afrika, on the other side of the river?

I will post as soon as I hear from you on this

Yes after I took heavy losses in my full attack, I established bases in the empty mines mountains there. And I evacuated a good deal of the resistence by dressing them as my construction workers.

And yes I needed something to piss you off, so the convoy ambush worked well.

Okay you declaring that you can bribe my cooks to poison my pilots would not work :

1. My troops are shooting the citizens of Die Boerstaat on sight, no-one who isn't a Skgorrian is getting near that base.
2. Its godmodding, pure and simple, otherwise I'd say "I bribe all of the rebels to not fight anymore."

I suppose all of your troops are loyal without doubt and have no need for money as well? Who said I directly bribed the cooks? Couldn't have I bribed them through a link of people in the base? Couldn't I easily bribe an entire company and hush up the leaders with more money?

But I did change the post

I suppose all of your troops are loyal without doubt and have no need for money as well?

They're as singleminded as your troops, who seem quite happy to carry out an armed struggle despit the fact they are being reminded that every minute they fight, their population decreases by several hundred. Surely even the most hardened rebel would at least pause for thought at this?

Jolt time-travelled your last post on the IC thread before mine, so it did make sense at the time...:p

Mine are single-minded however, why would they go back there when they just end up getting blown up. Everyone in my resistence is put to work. Those who dont want to fight can make weapons those who cant do that, grow and harvest food. I have a lot of people wanting revenge in the NLF.

And please kill the Chosen Army I dont want to be stuck with them.

I'll kill them off tomorrow when I have more time - don't worry, I have something special planned ;)

I need to know what the specs of the godhammers are before I make my post. Oh and I was hoping something a little more bloody for the Chosen Army.

Stats for Godhammer cannons are as follows:

M65 Godhammer
Type: Self-Propelled Atomic Artillery
Propulsion: Pulled by two tractors
Length: 84 feet
Width: 16.1 feet
Height: 12.2 feet
Weight: 83 tons (assembled weight), 47 tons (gun weight)
Speed: that of pulling vehicle
Crew: 30
Vehicle Range: that of pulling vehicle
Armament: 1 280mm medium howitzer, firing a Mark-9 or Mark-19 warhead, up to 27 kiloton yield. (Weighs 550 lb)
Weapon Range: 20 miles

(stats can be found in this thread http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435395 , post #3)

You consider not getting vapourised by nuclear bunker-busters, blown to pieces by artillery and crushed by tonnes of rock and concrete not bloody? I must be losing my touch :p

Okay I said I would help. So I am.

Okay I said I would help. So I am.

Oh fair enough.

I screwed up my post, I actually meant to say that each cannon is firing 3 shells all along the line and not concentrating them at one point, hence blanketing your entire line and rear with atomic fire. Sorry for not making that clear enough :(

I'm going to send First Army Group in to help Skgorria. It'll take time, even with my vast airlift capacity. Expect 1 Corps to arrive soon.

May I remind you Skorria that I have quite a nice number of SAMs with enough range to knock out your bombers. So a bomber strike might not be very smart on your part. But had you said that, I would've lost so lucky lucky me.

May I remind you Skorria that I have quite a nice number of SAMs with enough range to knock out your bombers. So a bomber strike might not be very smart on your part. But had you said that, I would've lost so lucky lucky me.

There's a SAM with a thousand mile range? Well, poo. They won't do you any good against SS-27s though :p

The 56,000 strong Ku Klux Klan of Die Boerstaat, with the leading branch being the Boer White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, having around 22,000 members, agreed for each of the 100 or so factions to stop disputing and to join together and light a 60 foot cross in the grassy land near to the city of Volksdorp.

30,000 people, mostly armed with small arms such as sawn- off shotguns and molotov cocktails, heard Frederique Theron, Imperial Wizard of the BWKKKK, make a 40 minute speech on the future of the volk. Unlike in the past when hoods weren't generally worn until the cross was light 95% of the supporters had their mask down, one member told a news crew, "In the past we were open about our membership but with black rule on the horizon we'll have to go underground, I fear if someone sees my face or my wife's face we'll be killed".

Amazing grace was played on the bagpipes and 300 crosses assembled in this 500 acre plot of land, the torches were lit, one by one, and the Klan were blessed as the light shone down on them.

After the ceremony the people left the crosses up, and alight, it was an amazing site, 200 huge crosses and a sea of white robes standing by.

Klan Membership Soars

In just 3 weeks following the massive cross lighting ceremony an additional 2,000 people have joined up, they're engaging in terrorising the blacks of the country and one man, a black man who lived in the white suburbs of Volksdorp, was killed when a 5 foot cross was lit on his lawn and then 40 or so Klansmen fired hundreds of rounds from Uzis, various types of shotgun and revolvers into his windows, killing him. As well 300 homes have experienced 'Klan terror' in the form of shooting through windows, lighting crosses on the lawn and bombings of unoccupied, cars, sheds and even entire homes.

Blacks are being forced to go into hiding. In a speech to 500 Klansmen Theron said, "This is what we wanted, and now we have it, no more will they threaten us and our lifestyle".

This is all very well, but you do realise you have no people left in my zone, right?

There's a SAM with a thousand mile range? Well, poo. They won't do you any good against SS-27s though :p



This is all very well, but you do realise you have no people left in my zone, right?

I sold him the SAMs, I'm sorry. :3

As for the KKK, I'll take them. For that thing, it would have taken a lot of planning and preparation to set this up. Plenty of time for DBRA authorities along with military forces to surround them covertly then swarm in to eradicate them.

You are trying to tell me you can somehow have 56,000 people escape from a massive modern military force without harm?

We have satellites, recon aircraft with enough sensitivity to track a cat moving through the thickest forest you can imagine.

We surrounded you, why can't I say that my soldiers were invisible and time-traveling eh? We have to play fair. 56,000 people can't gather together light massive crosses without the police surrounding them on all sides.

There's a SAM with a thousand mile range? Well, poo. They won't do you any good against SS-27s though :p

That's what I have the Sa-10's for.

Oh and I need to know where these rockets are coming from (Which direction?)

I sold him the SAMs, I'm sorry. :3

Meh, never mind, business is business. Give me a discount on some of your stock and we'll call it even.

You are trying to tell me you can somehow have 56,000 people escape from a massive modern military force without harm?

We have satellites, recon aircraft with enough sensitivity to track a cat moving through the thickest forest you can imagine.

We surrounded you, why can't I say that my soldiers were invisible and time-traveling eh? We have to play fair. 56,000 people can't gather together light massive crosses without the police surrounding them on all sides.

Yet more idiocy from Die Boerstaat, and the main reason why I've been systematically wiping out his population - he irritates me.

Good show on attacking the Hand of Nod by the way, nothing is coming into the Skgorrian zone that isn't DBRA or Atopian. Nothing.

That's what I have the Sa-10's for.

The missile is capable of making evasive maneuvers as it approaches its target, enabling it to evade any terminal phase interceptors. It almost certainly also carries countermeasures and decoys to decrease the chances of a successful targeting. The missile is shielded against radiation, electromagnetic interference and physical disturbance; previous missiles could be disabled by detonating a nuclear warhead within ten kilometers. This vulnerability is the basis behind the use of nuclear ground-based and orbital interceptors, to detonate or damage the missile before it reaches its target. However, the SS-27 is designed to be able to withstand nuclear blasts closer than 500 m, a difficult interception when combined with the terminal phase speed and maneuverability.

I highly doubt a system as old as the Sa-10 could shoot a nuke down, in fact I'm going to say its pretty much impossible. If it could, why is the American government panicking about not having an effective ABM, and did so for most of the Cold War? Imagine....

Soviet General: "Good new, we just found out some of our battlefield anti-air missiles can shoot down nukes."
Politburo: "Huzzah, nuke the Yankee dogs."

Oh and I need to know where these rockets are coming from (Which direction?)

From space, right down on top of you. They're terminally guided. Each rocket has 6 550 KT warheads, plus decoy warheads. The missiles seperate in space so you won't be able to hit any of them before they seperate.

Given that I have just brought 7.5 million soldiers into your country, or rather the Skgorrian-occupied-zone (SOZ), how many people did you have living there? Before they all got killed by the Skgorrians I mean.

I think I need to start using the houses and other buildings vacated by the now-dead civilian population...

On the plus side no guerilla movement can start in the SOZ because the 'people' are actually Atopian Land and Air Forces - and Logistics Corps.

I already have it hooked up to top of the line radar and I am using low yield tactical nukes to shoot your nukes down.

I'm engaging whoever is in the capital.

That would be First Army's 500,000 combat troops then. Hurrah! Combat at last!

We decided to use the population at time of invasion which was: 12 million or so.

10 million of these people are the 'Boers', which are divided as so:

4.5 million in Skorggian Zone
4.3 million in my zone
1.3 million in Skyian Zone

The remaining 2 million are the native people of Die Boerstaat.

I've imported 320,000 via The Republic of the Red Islands and my various other installations.

We decided to use the population at time of invasion which was ... 4.5 million in Skgorrian Zone

Hurrah, even if we hadn't been killing them all the First Army Group and Logistics personnel outnumber the SZ population by three million! :p

The Mig-31s took off from a paved field which dosent really matter at this point because theres no other planes there.

OOC: By all claims I can counter that it was a hjacked plane (in a way it was) diverted for that course to be used for attack. The people on board are going be imortalized as heros.

OOC: By all claims I can counter that it was a hjacked plane (in a way it was) diverted for that course to be used for attack. The people on board are going be imortalized as heros.

Except all of you who aren't on my side has forgotten one very important thing.

Except all of you who aren't on my side has forgotten one very important thing.
What your allies ICly act like complete noobs?

What your allies ICly act like complete noobs?

Name calling from atop a pedestal is pretty noobish last I checked isn't it? Though you have to admit, AYB and 1337 hasn't been funny for the longest time. Besides, you and The Northern Baltic have probably made the biggest noob mistake of all. Though when TNB gets back we can continue his talk with the consular and you can all find out.

Name calling from atop a pedestal is pretty noobish last I checked isn't it? Though you have to admit, AYB and 1337 hasn't been funny for the longest time. Besides, you and The Northern Baltic have probably made the biggest noob mistake of all. Though when TNB gets back we can continue his talk with the consular and you can all find out.
Hence why I said ICly. As in they aren't really noobs they are just playing at it. It wasn't an insult just a observation regarding the last post.

And I still don't see it... What I've comitted nothing to this so I have nothing fear or more or less even care about it. So hurry up and explain and I will hurry up and counter why it won't matter.

Playing "I have a secret" is stupid.

You can't use deniablity as an excuse this time Leaf.

Hence why I said ICly. As in they aren't really noobs they are just playing at it. It wasn't an insult just a observation regarding the last post.

And I still don't see it... What I've comitted nothing to this so I have nothing fear or more or less even care about it. So hurry up and explain and I will hurry up and counter why it won't matter.

Playing "I have a secret" is stupid.

You can't use deniablity as an excuse this time Leaf.

I've already posted the secret, I haven't turned my back on it, and all my behavior so far is a clue. Its like those movies with twist endings and when you finally get to the twist you realize all the hints they have dropped and slap yourself for being so blind.

Hence why I said ICly. As in they aren't really noobs they are just playing at it. It wasn't an insult just a observation regarding the last post.

And I still don't see it... What I've comitted nothing to this so I have nothing fear or more or less even care about it. So hurry up and explain and I will hurry up and counter why it won't matter.

Playing "I have a secret" is stupid.

You can't use deniablity as an excuse this time Leaf.

I've already posted the secret, I haven't turned my back on it, and all my behavior so far is a clue. Its like those movies with twist endings and when you finally get to the twist you realize all the hints they have dropped and slap yourself for being so blind.

I Lol At You All

Heh, Not bad, but now this is how I counter.

1stly, I managed to trick you by making the mafia purchases for airdrops, even though I had no intention of doing airdrops. (Orginally I did it because of how the Mafia was in league in the main government)

I'm sure that's the main reason you wanted my plane so badly.

2ndly, You are indeed responsible for your colonies, techincally if someone really wanted to get me, they could legally invade the Lone Alliance because the Black Hand is Autonomous group within The Lone Alliance. Your government knows everything the Mafia does, including the illegal stuff, yet you do nothing about it.

They know how they make their illegal funds, and where they work yet they couldn't even remember one location... Hmmm Nope no cover up here.

The Black Hand of Nod, which border are your men crossing? And which port are these vehicles being delivered to, one of mine or one of Leafanistans?

Please let it be ours :)

The Black Hand of Nod, which border are your men crossing? And which port are these vehicles being delivered to, one of mine or one of Leafanistans?

I don't know, either way, those are regular cars, and a regular supply ship. For a regluar used car dealer.

I'm assuming that Die Boerstaat is trying to reopen it's markets, therefore there should be imports coming in.

But there are no weapons no terrorists no nothing on board.

The whole thing is a red herring.

But I'm suggesting a port that won't simply blow them out of the water on impulse. Fake paperwork will state that the cars are for a dealership, sadly the orginal ship is 'delayed'.

I'm OOC: telling you this so it's true.

And since they way Atopiana acted last post, I suspect they are simply going to blow it out of the water, It's not landing there :P

Sad to say it would be in everyone's interests to get my guys in, they plan on shutting down the terrorist groups. Well it's not in Leaf's interest since that includes destroying all their prison camps.

(PS if you sink it I'm just going to wash my hands on the nation, and wash out the nation itself.)

And I'd just waste anyone who occupies The Northern Baltic as well.

We weren't going to sink it, just board it, impound everything on board, detain and interrogate the crew, and eventually let them go.

If they refused to be boarded, we'd've sunk them for being "potentially dangerous pirates or criminals". ;)

The officer is in the dried river bank... I doubt you can snipe him.

Okay I want some exposition on this scientist.

I understand his later message without really translating.
(Then I translated it to be sure.)
"Only the dead live here"

But the first message I had no clue so I looked it up.
"I am your garden furniture"
?????

Okay I want some exposition on this scientist.

I understand his later message without really translating.
(Then I translated it to be sure.)
"Only the dead live here"

But the first message I had no clue so I looked it up.
"I am your garden furniture"
?????

Another mystery from me. The scientist never could hurt you.

I wonder how these guys show up as the RP is dying down.

I don't remember gold, but I remember diamonds.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1998/safavidcoverttt4.gif

Good evening ladies and gentlemen. You would be ill-advised to continue this unjust and illegal occupation of these lands. However, we may be persuaded as to whether this is indeed just or legal.

As the Nod soldier was distracted by the blaring alarm and flashing strobe lights designed to disorient enemies the scientist came up behind him and aimed to slash his throat and make a Pez dispenser of the guy.

Unable to harm... If the second guy wasn't in the room there would be one headless Nod soldier.

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Good evening ladies and gentlemen. You would be ill-advised to continue this unjust and illegal occupation of these lands. However, we may be persuaded as to whether this is indeed just or legal.

Illegal Occupation?

Ok here is the IC skinny.

Die Boerstaat was having internal regulation problems and other nations threatened it. So me and Skgorria intruded to help protect it.

Now the government becomes more unstable and soon it becomes painfully clear that they cannot rule the nation. So we first occupied all the major cities to control the rebelling population.

Then we annex the military and the nation. We encounter no resistance from the government or the people until it suddenly flared a few months ago.

We suspect interference from Das Sudafrika so we threatened it and closed the border.

Then they threaten us continually, so we have no other option to preserve Die Boerstaat. We fired nuclear weapons to destroy the threat.

Now the offensive from the enemy has nearly stopped and suddenly at the eve of our stabilization of Die Boerstaat, the end of the offensive, we find ourselves besieged by foreign attackers.

However, I am aware of what you want.

$90 million US, and we give you control of a diamond mine near the city of Emerald.

Unable to harm... If the second guy wasn't in the room there would be one headless Nod soldier.

I would have alerted your guy eventually, I was going to have the scientist slip and fall through your soldier and drops the saw making a loud clatter.

Um how come no more helicopters were hit by all the anti-air crap?

They ran away. You are about to get strategically carpet-bombed by 1,000 bombers dropping some 108,000 five hundred pound high-explosive bombs on you.

Get the message: Don't. Fuck. With. The. AOCA. Comprende?

Well I can see it.

"Atopiana commits Piracy on the high seas, bombs innocent Fishing boats and transports!"

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And another reason why the airfield thing is being looked down at,

Deporting hundreds of people and destroying thousands of acres of usable land just to make an oversized Airfiled is kind of a thing to frown upon.

Illegal Occupation?

Ok here is the IC skinny.

Die Boerstaat was having internal regulation problems and other nations threatened it. So me and Skgorria intruded to help protect it.

If DB consented, I don't see a problem

Now the government becomes more unstable and soon it becomes painfully clear that they cannot rule the nation. So we first occupied all the major cities to control the rebelling population.

Governments tend to do that when an intrusion occurs around the time of series of threats.

Then we annex the military and the nation. We encounter no resistance from the government or the people until it suddenly flared a few months ago.

This was most likely a de facto annexation, as the government surely could not do such a thing if it was as unstable as you said.

We suspect interference from Das Sudafrika so we threatened it and closed the border.

Then they threaten us continually, so we have no other option to preserve Die Boerstaat. We fired nuclear weapons to destroy the threat.

Perhaps they precieved a threat, not like anyone else would

Now the offensive from the enemy has nearly stopped and suddenly at the eve of our stabilization of Die Boerstaat, the end of the offensive, we find ourselves besieged by foreign attackers.

However, I am aware of what you want.

$90 million US, and we give you control of a diamond mine near the city of Emerald.

A title that is not yours to sell; no assets were transferred 'de jure' so far as I can tell.

To
Shah Jafar

Your Highness,

We have received your order and are happy to inform you that the 500 tanks you requested are ready to be delivered to the Die Boerstaat location of your choosing.

Your humble servant

Daniel StormCrow
Minister of Trade

Atopiana I call bull on using 1000 B-52s.

No one in their right mind would use ONE ****ING THOUSAND B-52s on a fishing boat and a cargo ship.

It's completely mental and not to mention a waste of money!

It would be like:
sending 2000 Fighter Jets to shoot down a biplane,
An Armoured Division to shoot a Jeep,
2000 Soldiers to kill an unarmed soldier,
and A nuclear missile to blow up a tent.

10 would be enough.

*SNIP*

First of all, he's not attacking the shipping with those bombers. He's attacking some insurgents near the border.

Secondly, it's his damn nation and he can RP it however he wants. If he wants to go for massive overkill then fair enough, that's his call.

Atopiana I call bull on using 1000 B-52s.

No one in their right mind would use ONE ****ING THOUSAND B-52s on a fishing boat and a cargo ship.

It's completely mental and not to mention a waste of money!

It's a thousand-bomber raid on a very large collection of rebel troops which are organised enough to have helicopter gunships and a sophisticated SAM network.

My navy isn't anywhere near your cargo ship but if you carry on being a tit I will happily sink it. :)

Not large really... few hundred at most.

A title that is not yours to sell; no assets were transferred 'de jure' so far as I can tell.

What happens when you take over a country in an RP? You control the land, the people on it, therefore I can transfer it because it has become our property. Much like the Glorious Republic defeated Saharistan, I sold his oil because I now own his property.

However, DB ignores all the rules of RPing, routinely godmodes, doesn't respond to any of our things, so we replaced him with The Northern Baltic.

This was most likely a de facto annexation, as the government surely could not do such a thing if it was as unstable as you said.

They did, if you read the earlier thread he did just let us overrun him.

Perhaps they precieved a threat, not like anyone else would

Das Sudafrika was most likely a parachute account or a puppet, along with Kaapstaat. The names, the policies, the style, it is all too similar.

I thought he was targeting North Baltic's shipping, my bad.

No one dares target my shipping! If they do, I might have to start putting nukes and heavy guns on my merchent ships. See how they like that. (I wouldn't really do that)

OOC: Ignored, very basic reason, submarines usually have to get there to survey towns and cities. And from a certain distance the earth curves so much that you actually cannot survey.

OOC: I guess you don't understand how submarine surveillance works.

Will you look at that, everything needs time to get there. You suddenly had a submarine enter my waters, bypass all my naval forces, my sonobuoys, his sonobuoys, my submarines, his submarines, gotten close enough to take pictures, then bypassed them all again without detection or a chance for me to detect it. That is why you are being ignored.

No one dares target my shipping! If they do, I might have to start putting nukes and heavy guns on my merchent ships. See how they like that. (I wouldn't really do that)

This may infuriate many of you but with the enslavement, death or nuking of any Boers or Sudafrikans, we want to close down this RP so we can focus on the new Kraven invasion.

This may infuriate many of you but with the enslavement, death or nuking of any Boers or Sudafrikans, we want to close down this RP so we can focus on the new Kraven invasion.

If the Kraven invasion means more of those processing facilities, then I'm still in.

A: Because it's just sick and

B: Capital police are a powerful threat that need removing.


I really need to make up how I create my Templar\Cyborgs. (Even though I call them templars they're closer to the Cyborgs of TS)