NationStates Jolt Archive


"freedom Of The Press"

Somethingey
06-01-2007, 12:32
"Welcome to SWN" (Somethingey World News)

"Today a fellow reporter is being put on trial for 5 counts of 1st degree murder, 15 counts of 2nd degree murder and 1 count for treason."

"The reporter, a 25 year old white male will be put on trial for the death of 5 citizens, the death of 15 SWAT police, and for reporting a police operation in progress."

"What happened was that yesterday 10 rebels took over a market on Thor the 3rd island of Somethingey."

"The police had a leak on a current plan to take back the market."

"By the time anyone knew what had happened the reporter had said the plan on the news and the rebels blew up half of the market, killing 5 citizens and the SWAT team."

"By law it is illegal to give a news report on a police or military operation that is being planned or is in current progress, but it can be reported after the plan is finsh and everyone is safe."

"The charges are treason, 1st degree murder for all citizens killed, and 2nd degree murder for all police and/or soilders killed."

"The trial is planned to start in the next week or so."

"In other news, puppys gone mad...."
Somethingey
06-01-2007, 13:25
"Welcome to SWN."

"Today protesters are protesting the trial on the reporter at the court house where the trial is to take place."

"The protesters are saying the reporter did his job. To report to the people what is happening and that a trial aganist him is wrong."

"The protesters also say that if the trial takes place that they will start a rebellion and they will find and kill everyone in the government."

"Here is a live speech from the emperor himself."

"To all people who protest this trial, let it be know that the death of people who have done nothing wrong can not and will not go on unpunish. If you think I'm going to let that reporter go unchallenged think again. Also as emperor I chould have killed him myself with no trial, but I have mercy and I gave him a trial. To the people that threaten us, force will be met with force. Thank you."

"In other news puppys attack childern in school...."
Somethingey
06-01-2007, 21:59
bump
Aunesia
06-01-2007, 22:48
The Residence of the Foreign Secretary
The day before the trial

Minister Short sat down at the freshly-lain breakfast table, pouring himself a fresh cup of tea from the pot placed before him. Reaching for the newspaper, he unfolded it to read the front page...

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SOMETHINGEY JOURNALIST TRIAL TO BEGIN
'REBELS' PROTEST AT COURTHOUSE

The widely-anticipated and controversial trial of an unnamed journalist is set to begin tomorrow in the The Empire of Somethingey. The accused is charged with five counts of 1st-degree murder, fifteen counts of 2nd-degree murder and one count of treason. If found guilty, the accused will face a maximum penalty of death. These charges relate to the accused's reporting of an ongoing police operation, something forbidden under strict press laws in the empire.
'Protests'
As we go to press, reports are coming in that a large protest has formed outside the courthouse where the trial is due to be held. Unconfirmed empire governmental reports suggest that the protesters have threatened to topple the government by force if the trial takes place. Protests were held outside the Federal Assembly Building in Strando yesterday by human rights campaigners who have condemned the trial as 'unfair', 'unjust' and 'another farcical demonstration of the so-called justice you can expect within the Empire if you dare to speak out'
'Government concern'
We contacted the Foreign Office today for comment, and were told by a spokesman that 'the ministry is aware of the ongoing situation. The Foreign Secretary will issue a press release later today on the issue'. Nobody from the President's Office was available for comment. The trial is set to begin at 9am tomorrow morning.

"Miss Stephens" he addressed his PA.

"Yes, minister?"

"I have a telegram to dictate,"

"Ready" she replied, notepad in hand.

"Your Imperial Majesty..." he began.
Aunesia
06-01-2007, 23:06
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PRESS RELEASE:- FOR IMMEDIATE DISTRIBUTION

Earlier today, I contacted the Emperor of Somethingey to make our nation's concerns about the fairness of the widely-reported 'Traitor Journalist' trial expected to begin tomorrow. I made it clear to the Emperor that whilst we understand the need for operational discretion and security, that we believe the Press should have the freedom to report news. The Government will continue to monitor the situation and we all hope for the best regarding the journalist's fate.

- Andrew Short
- Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
Avisron
06-01-2007, 23:37
[Open Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

The Libertarian Federation of Avisron is shocked and apalled by the blatant abuse of journalistic rights and free speech within the nation of Somethingey. The only people remotely at fault for this whole ordeal include who person who leaked the information and/or the police department for allowing it to happen.

We hereby demand that the journalist be released and have all charges against him dropped. The Libertarian Federation of Avisron would give this person full refugee status, if that would help in his fight for freedom.

If you refuse to cooperate the consequences for the Somethingey government will be vast and painful.

[END]
Somethingey
07-01-2007, 01:37
"Welcome to SWN."

"Today soilders were spotted in the streets of Somethingey. The goverment says its for the safety of the people. Now we go to our on the field reporter June."

"Hello and I'm with Private Tucker."

"Hello."

Hi, do you mind if I ask some questions?"

"No."

"Ok what is the reporter on trial name?"

"Brain"

"Ok and do you think the protesters will really re..."
Before June could finsh her sentece an exploision engulfed the whole building behind them. Tucker and other soilders enter a fire fight and then the reporter June could be seen on camera trying to get to cover before getting gunned down.

************

Will was one of the best police officers in Somethingey and was in charge of Brain's case. As he looked though the evidence he thought of how the information could have been leaked. Then it hits him as he saw the tape of the police's plan that Brain said he got in the mail by an unknow person. What he saw was a red cross used as the seal of the most threathening terriost cell. He got a deep chill as he thought of what might happen next. But what he didn't know was that it was happening as he ran to the phone to warn the goverment.

************

"Do you have it?"
"Yes."
"I would like to know if your friend the reporter will betray us?"
"Don't worry he is more into this then most of our members."
"Good now get on the plane we need this to be flown to our target."
"Yes of coures."
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
07-01-2007, 01:42
Dispatch -

ICCD will invade your country if you do not release this innocent person to our custody. No criminal intent existed by the reporter that is obvious. We will not idley stand by while an innocent person is put on trial for doing his job. You have 6 hours to accept this offer before we send forces to extract him by force.

Put him on the next plane out of the country or we will be sending ours to pick him up.

Office of the Logothe of the Drome, ICCD
Somethingey
07-01-2007, 02:26
Will picked up phone and called the station holding Brain.
"Hello this is station 10.."

"Did you check his neck?!"

"What? May I ask who is.."

"My name is Will Pop I'm with the F.B.I. and I need to know if you checked his neck?"

"Who's neck?"

"Brain's"

"Wait I'll be right back."

"Will waited on the phone thinking about what he should tell the goverment.

"Ok I have the report here and..."

"Does he have a red cross on his neck?!"

"Yes he does but what does this.."

Will hung up the phone and called the emperor himself.

"Sir they have it!"

"What who are you and who has what?"

"Its me sir, Will and the Red Spikes have the weapons sir."

"What weapons?"

"You know the video the terrorist gave us saying they had 5 atomic bombs."

"Well I have reson to belive that they told the truth and that they have those weapons."

"......."

"Sir what should I do?"

"Get what evidence you have and bring it to me."

**************
The emperor looked different to the press. He usally looked like a strong man but today he looked like a person who was not ready to die but was about to.

"Today my head of police Will Pop thinks that a terroist cell has 5 atomic bombs and that they plan to use them against Somethingey and 4 other nations. I'll let Will go into detail."

"Well see Brain has a red cross on his neck which is the seal of the Red Spikes who seem to hate any type of goverment with a ruler."

"When I checked his house I found plans saying that the terrorist planned to use the bombs against 5 different nations inculding Something."

"We also have reason to belive that 4 out of 5 of the bombs are no longer in Somethingey."

"We would like to warn all nations as of right now you and your people are in danger."

"Also the reporter has been sent to a classifed place for further questioning."

"Thank you"
Somethingey
07-01-2007, 12:10
OOC: bump. I would like to know why some of you are so trigger happy?

IC:
"Where are the bombs?" asked Will. Inside of a dark room with one light that was only there to help the guards see the door to get in and out.
"I don't know what you are talking about?" said Brain looking scared out of his life.
"Tell me now where are the bombs going and how are they getting there?"
"Please, I beg you don't hurt me." cryed Brain.
"We know that you are a terrorist and that you are part of the Red Spikes."
Brain's face went dark as soon as Will said those words, then a grain so evil that it could scare a child for life came on his face.
"I hope I live to see the death of Somethingey."
"Where are the bombs, we know that 1 is here and the other 4 are going to some other place. Tell me where they are going?"
"Well see you don't know. When I was chaght as what you would call a terrorist we had to change our plans."
"What do you mean?"
"Well lets just say that in the next month or so Somethingey is going to launch a nuclear stike aganist several nations close by."
"What? I thought your target was Somethingey?"
"So you still don't get it....well those 5 nations Somethingey are going to attack won't be to happy and will by chance fight fire with fire and fire a few nukes of their own."
"You know you will kill about millions and maybe even more."
"Yes, I know isn't it just wonderful."
Will left the room and went to warn the emperor.
Somethingey
07-01-2007, 16:15
*Coughs* bump *Coughs*
Aunesia
07-01-2007, 16:16
OOC: Huh? You've now totally lost me...
Somethingey
07-01-2007, 16:39
OOC: I'm sorry I forgot to post the terrorist plan...well here it is

SIC:
TO:********@Gotoemail.com
FROM:****@Gotoemail.com

STEP 1: Get the weapons from the warehouse
STEP 2: Transport weapons to Brain
STEP 3: Get Brain out of Somethingey to targets and keep one of the weapons
STEP 4: Use weapons on Somethingey and other tragets

****************************************************************TO:********@Gotoemail.com
FROM: ****@Gotoemail.com

This is not good Brain got caught. Freaking dumb idiot he reported the police's plan to help out our guys in the market but gave away our plan.
But we will only have to plan B. Move the A bombs to a nation with WMD.
Use them and try to make it seem Somethingey did. Hopefully that will start a war.


****************************************************************

CLASSIFIED
Somethingey F.B.I.

OOC: The idea is the terrorist want Somethingey dead and their first plan failed when Brain the reporter who is really a terrorist reported the police plan. Which he was in jail for and then he couldn't get one of the 5 A bombs to blow up part of Somethingey. The other 4 were going to different nations that are close by. So they made a new plan where they will blow the crap out of a nation with WMD and make it seem like Somethingey did it. Then chances are the nation will blow up Somethingey with their on nukes.
Sorry again.
Avisron
07-01-2007, 19:18
[OOC: I'm not trigger happy. The nation I've created is rarely trigger happy. However, I'm currently RP'ing internal pressures in Avisron to validate the military budget, and this is a perfect opportunity.]

[IC]

It was now painfully obvious to those in the Avisronite Department of Defense that Somethingey was ignoring the State Departments demands to cease and desist their illegal prosecution of the journalist. What more, the Libertarian Federation rarely made threats against other nations. Avisron was more the type of nation to use stealth tactics and diplomatic/economic pressure to force less powerful entitys to take favorable paths.

Twenty-four hours after the Avisronite Department of State dispatched its warning to Somethingey and recieved no response, the Prime Minister David Wallace submitted initial paperwork to Parliament to place a 1-year Temporary Economic Embargo upon the nation of Somethingey. This type of embargo was designed to be more of a political tool than a strategic one; cutting off uncooperative nations from Avisrons vast and powerful free market economy. Further, it required only the approval of the Senate Economic Security Committee to be implemented.

The filing of this paperwork recieves a huge amount of media attention on Avisrons largest international media affiliate, CSHR News. It should now be obvious to Somethingey that the Libertarian Federation of Avisron would not sit by and allow an opressive regime to freely persecute anyone they choose simply based on their own inability to keep a police operation secret.

At the same time this political manuvering started to take place, the Avisronite Department of Defense put its contingency plan into movement incase the friendly pressure didn't convince Somethingey they were wrong.

The contingency plan was a simple one; A dozen [12] Krietani Class SSGN's loaded with one hundred and fifty [150] Advanced Stealth Cruise Missiles each would cruise to within range of the Somethingey mainland. The officers and crew of this Battlegroup knew they could very well be the vanguard in a new war, but they had high morale and very little fear; but they were early in their cruise. They knew that the Krietani Class SSGN was one of the most advanced in the world, and that there was very little chance they would be discovered.

While the SSGN's were cruising towards their waiting station, another Surface Action Group containing 1 Cobalt Class Aircraft Carrier, 12 Rodgers Class Corvettes, 4 Grospek Cass Heavy Guided Battlecruisers, 1 Kristík Class Battleship, and 25 Carranzei Class CAGN's is assembled in a blue water region just 4 days away from the territorial waters of Somethingey. They have no orders to attack, but are prepared to assist the Submerged Action Group if it is challenged.

At this point the ball is in Somethingeys court. If the regime refuses to cooperate or respond to Avisronite demands, the Libertarian Federation will be forced to use brute force to protect the freedoms of the populace.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
08-01-2007, 03:40
OOC: Hi If you were refering to me, I've been off most of the day actually watched a tv movie, then when out rollerblading/inline skating propelled by a dog and may have fractured my wrist, luckily I can still type, but have painful and limited motion. So I may be typing one handed. Good for those who don't like my long posts.

ICCD oddly doesn't intervene, but in this case felt it could bully you into releasing your prisoner. :) It doesn't do this often, actually it may be a first. It'd be really expensive but you also have a fairly nice island chain.

Not sure if you were ignoring or just had nothing to say. All in all ICCD is very libertarian when it comes to freedom of the press. In a background there could be a story developed such as outrage within the logothes office condeming the trial of the journalist, but felt the result was more important than the backdrop. Simply within political circles there is much outrage.. but ICCD didn't feel like giving you reason to reject the ultimatum, it would have been ICS information but I didn't feel like writting myself in too heavily, as the story is more about your nation not mine, but I thought I might open up the gate. I was guessing you may just put him on a plane, and then the result perhaps he would be killed before arriving or escape and turns out to be a terrorist or something else which can be used as a plot device. Anyway. ICCD is also really agitated right now at the threat of nuclear, and or large scale war.

bIs it allowable for me to open up a massive assualt on you in the midst of this terrorist action
Somethingey
08-01-2007, 04:26
OOC: ICCD I should tell you that if you just send a small navy Somethingey would give up.(Yes my navy is that small....)
Somethingey
08-01-2007, 04:58
OOC: Also before I forget, I need someone to start rping the A bombs. You don't have to have them blow up or anything, but if you been reading my past replys in this rp you can tell that I suck when it comes to rping terrorist.
The Lone Alliance
08-01-2007, 08:06
OOC: Somethingey, your navy won't even have to fight if I get in on this.
We are against nations invading for no reason, we consider it imperialism.
Invade and that means facing me on the field of battle.

-Message from the Lone Alliance-
The trail should be allowed, to allow those to openly put others in danger in the name of 'reporting' is immoral, if a press release made it possible for one of your leaders to be assassinated would you stand by and let the reporter get away with it? I should hope not. This reporter was irresponsible and openly put people in danger without caring of the costs, however we suggest that the murder costs be dropped to manslaughter with at least life imprisionment without parole. And to other nations, we will not sit by and allow imperialists to profit using this as an excuse.
TirTairngire
08-01-2007, 08:57
The Tesrae k'Raen of Tir Tairngire condemns the acts of the Libertarian Federation of Avisron and the Provincia of Intracircumcordei, and extends it's support to the Empire of Somethingey. It is the Somethingeyan (?) government's sovereign right to administer justice to it's citizens, and this is no exception. We applaud their wisdom, and agree that freedom of speech is a priveledge extended to the populace by the government, to be rescinded at any time that the government deems neccessary.

With this in mind, the Ele Arandur has authorized the use of force to settle this conflict. Thusly, Peace Force assets have been deployed to the area until this disturbance is resolved.


Imar raen. Imar semeraerth. Imar raegh.
Lugh Surehand
Se'har Maera of Tir Tairngire
Laydbag
08-01-2007, 09:34
Telegram recived January 8th :
The government of The people's republic of Laydbag

First we wish to express our dissatisfaction with your handeling of the issue freedom of the press, Laydbag strongly advice you to rethink your politics of this matter.

In light of resent events Laydbag has decided to cooperate with the intelligence of Somethingy, hoping that the Emperor will open a democratic debate concerning freedom of the press, with a level of information about the subject fairly handed to the people.

The L.I.A (Laydbag Intelligence Agency) has, by coincidence picked up information about 2 of the 5 A bombs, which has yet not left Somthingy, possibly transported by ship during the next 10 days, though this needs to be verified. Unfortunatly the other 3 A bombs passes on, unmentioned in our intelligence.

Ya Basta! - The People's Republic of Laydbag
The Lone Alliance
08-01-2007, 09:48
The Allied States of The Lone Alliance concurs with The Tesrae k'Raen of TirTairngire, and I, Prime Minister Verta has pledged forces as well, should The Empire of Somethingey requires it we can have our airborne forces in their nation at a moments time. Followed by the 3rd fleet if needed.

-Prime Minister Verta, Former Minister of Equality
Somethingey
08-01-2007, 10:27
The Empire of Somethingey is most happy that aid is coming, but I hope war can and should be avoided. The reporters charges have been drop to 5 counts of 1st degree murder. 1 case for each of the hostages killed by the bomb.

OOC: So no cares about the terrorist having 5 A BOMBS?
TirTairngire
08-01-2007, 10:32
OOC: Well, I would, but Tir border security is rather... well, insane is probably quite accurate. I'm sure I can find the thread about the death fence somewhere... ;) If you want, I could do a foiled attempt at detonating them on Tir soil.
Somethingey
08-01-2007, 10:36
OOC: That would be cool:D
Gorkon
08-01-2007, 14:18
I am disturbed to see just how many national leaders are taking such a great degree of interest in the legal system of the rather unfortunately named nation of Somethingey. The ability to regulate the criminal justice system of one's own nation is one of the principle rights of a sovereign people, and it is not for outsiders to dictate terms in that regard. Whilst the idea of free press is admirable, to some degree, quite frankly I find it laughable to assume that none of these self-righteous national leaders have in place some form of safeguard against journalists being allowed to release classified military intelligence, for the simple purposes of national security. Otherwise, I look forward to reading the next newspaper report detailing your classified military research and development programs.

This incident is no different. According to Somethingey law it is 'illegal to give a news report on a police or military operation that is being planned or is in current progress', which to my mind at the least is a perfectly reasonable requirement, the necessity of which was clearly demonstrated when numerous people were killed as a result of its breach. Whether or not I agree with it or not is irrelevant, however, as it is Somethingey law, not Gorkonian law, and the same is true for all of you.

Going to war to save the life of one man, who by breaking the law indirectly caused the deaths of several other people? I apologise for the use of such crude language in a diplomatic correspondence, but frankly speaking the only word that comes to mind regarding this is idiots. Just how many people do you think will die if you go to war over this? You shall be killing more than you shall be saving, and to make matters worse there is not even any justification for such an action. Other than simply stating 'do what we want or we shall shoot you', just what diplomatic methodology have you entertained to solve this problem? Do you even understand what the word 'politics' means?

And whilst you are all focussing so much attention on the sovereign machinations of Somethingey, you all seem to have completely missed the fact that there are terrorists out there on the lose with several nuclear weapons at their disposal. Never before have I had the displeasure of witnessing such a fiasco, and I have been around for quite some time - it is as though several small children from the 1700s have gained control of nations.

Somethingey is decidedly smaller than those of you involved in this threatening nonsense thus far and completely lacking in diplomatic ties, which makes it somewhat understandable that you have seen the opportunity to make yourself look big and strong, much like a small child feels powerful when removing the legs of insects. Well, consider this - for each leg you pull, Gorkon shall deliver a cruise missile to your door, free of charge. Perhaps such an incentive will encourage you bunch of yobs-in-suits to zip up your trousers and sit down at a table for a short while and engage in more civilised behaviour. How about it?

My complements to those nations who are governed by the clinically sane, who have taken the initiative to stand up for the sovereign rights of Somethingey in the face of blinding idiocy and imperialism. Perhaps together, a peaceful solution we can make.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian Military High Command
Avisron
08-01-2007, 22:29
Official Address from the Prime Minister of the Libertarian Federation

First off, I would like to clarify that the Libertarian Federation of Avisron has, to this point, made no preparations to forcefully secure the rights of the journalist in question. Infact, if you see our statement threatening "vast and painful" consequences as simply a figure of speech as they were indeed intended, then the only nations to threaten violence against anyone are ICCD, The Lone Alliance, Tir Tairngire, and Gorkon.

I would like to take this moment to preset to you a certain fact; More nations are threatening violence against those who simply question the reasons behind the opression of the media than are actually threatening the nation where the opression is taking place.

Further, I would like to take this moment to present another point. The Libertarian Federation of Avisron does not recognise any nations right to "sovereignty." If a government has the support of the populace, then it will remain in power. Furthermore, a government never represents fully and unquestionably the people of a nation. No one is threatening to conquer Somethingey and make it a colony - threats are being made to the rogue regime of said nation.

The situation in Somethingey, whereas there are riots in the streets, buildings exploding, and the like, shows to us an example of a rogue regime with inadequate laws and no ability to secure itself. It is very clear to me that the populace of Somethingey does not support the current regime. Thus, any nation who interferes and supports the current Somethingey regime is helping to opress the majority of people there.

In closure, I would like to point out that the freedom fighters of Somethingey have somehow aquired five nuclear weapons. We're having this conversation because a police operation was leaked while in progress, and now powerful military hardware is being leaked. What does this say for the competence of the Somethingey government and those who defend it? Is it really a government that should be allowed to exist?

It is quite a shame that some nations overtly support this type of opressive behavior.

Prime Minister David Wallace
The Libertarian Federation of Avisron

[END]
The Lone Alliance
08-01-2007, 23:27
Response...

We would like to ask The Libertarian Federation of Avisron something. If a news report resulted in terrorists knowing where to detonate a nuclear device in your nation, would you just sit back and applaud the reporter for reporting it? Even though it resulted in the deaths of thousands? We feel the The Libertarian Federation of Avisron is lacking logic. Besides this is a trial for one thing, if it was just a simple execution we ourselves would be angry, but if they feel that exposing a risky operation, which upon exposure resulted in multiple deaths, is irresponsible and unlawful then we would have to agree. -Lone Alliance


Secret IC to Somethingey: We are sending the troops now.
Avisron
09-01-2007, 02:33
[Response from the Office of the Prime Minister]

If a reporter accidently gave away critical information, as appears to have happened in Somethingey, the Libertarian Federation would view it as just that - an accident. Further, if a government agency was responsible for leaking classified information to said reporter, those responsible for the leak would be held accountable. The most danger the reporter would be forced to do would be detail who his/her source was.

I would like to point out that no investigation into how the leak actually took place has happened inside Somethingey. The journalist is taking complete and total blame for this, and it is simply undebatable that that isn't fair.

--Prime Minister David Wallace
--The Libertarian Federation of Avisron
Avisron
09-01-2007, 02:39
[Ocean Surrounding Somethingey]

After a long voyage, the Submerged Action Group begins to near firing range. The 12 Krietani Class Submarines are sailing at near their maximum depth to avoid detection, as well as traveling at a decreasing speed as they near their stations to avoid creating a massive heat signature. The submarines, at a low speed and deep depth, will be nearly impossible to detect by a random roaming eye.
The Lone Alliance
09-01-2007, 03:46
[Response from the Office of the Prime Minister]

If a reporter accidently gave away critical information, as appears to have happened in Somethingey, the Libertarian Federation would view it as just that - an accident. Further, if a government agency was responsible for leaking classified information to said reporter, those responsible for the leak would be held accountable. The most danger the reporter would be forced to do would be detail who his/her source was.

I would like to point out that no investigation into how the leak actually took place has happened inside Somethingey. The journalist is taking complete and total blame for this, and it is simply undebatable that that isn't fair.

The Libertarian Federation of Avisron --Prime Minister David Wallace
--

How can you 'accidently' report something on the news? The reporter knew that this was classified information on a military operation that had not happened yet, that perhaps it was about to commence, yet he willingly blew their cover on the News. Considering they don't want anything else to be leaked, can you see the possiblity that the investigation on the leak is occuring secretly? We have no choice but to believe the The Libertarian Federation of Avisron is run by idiots. -Lone Alliance.

Secret IC:
-Council of 20-
"Mobilize the 3rd Fleet."
Avisron
09-01-2007, 04:05
[Response from the Office of the Prime Minister]

What if the reporter didn't know that what he was reporting was critical information? Besides, you've yet to counter the fact that the government of Somethingey is the entity which leaked the information. The reporter was simply an entity which reported the news. It hasn't even been considered that he had little control over what he infact reported, and that he could have simply been doing what he was asked. Never has it been considered that he would be risking his job by rejecting this story.

The Libertarian Federation of Avisron infers that rulers of The Lone Alliance are of the mental age and/or maturity of a pre-teen boy; and that this sad fact greatly drops the value of said nations opinion.

--Prime Minister David Wallace
--The Libertarian Federation of Avisron


[OOC: Just to point out, my submarines have a MASSIVE headstart on getting to the waters of the country, and have time to both fire and disappear before your navy is even within range.]
Somethingey
09-01-2007, 04:41
1st of all Somethingey is less then 100 years old, and when I say this I mean it that we have no nukes or other types of these weapons.

2nd no, we don't know how that terrorist got weapons the police is still looking into that.

3rd if no one saw this I will say it again. Press can't report police or military plans untill it has been seen to the end and everyone who was in danger is safe. So if the reporter just had waited a few hours he would not be going on trial, but would be telling a story about cops saving people.
The Lone Alliance
09-01-2007, 06:57
[OOC: Just to point out, my submarines have a MASSIVE headstart on getting to the waters of the country, and have time to both fire and disappear before your navy is even within range.]
OOC:My ocean patrol boats and interceptor Destroyers can go up to 45knots and 35knots respectively if I have extended fuel supply. I already sent my Airborne, which should be Boots on the ground about... nowish.

We now see that the irrationality of the inferior nation known as Avisron is
un-negoiatable, seeing how it fails to note that military operations are usually 'critical' information. We will deliver this warning to the ignorant leadership of Avisron. Any action you take against Somethingey, over the fact that you disagree with a fair and useful law, will be seen simply as an act of an Imperialist, which by act 208 of the Lone Alliance Rule of Law all Imperialist nations that attempt to invade upon false grounds will be considered an Enemy of the Lone Alliance. -Lone Alliance
TirTairngire
09-01-2007, 07:41
We must respectfully disagree with the leaders of Avisron. The purpose of government is to protect the populace. The will of the masses is largely irrelevant, as they generally lack the intellect to select their own destiny. Thus, a higher power must rule over them, safeguarding their lives by whatever means neccessary. Indeed, the democracies of Athens and Rome were felled by the hands of their own citizens, the ignorant masses too feeble to defend themselves.

Thusly, the restriction of information is by far the least of our rights as rulers of men. The Somethingey government's prosecution of this reporter, whose actions aided a small rebel cell in murdering civilians and soldiers alike. Publishing details of a military operation before it has been completed is an obvious crime, and is deserving of the harshest punishment. Therefore, Peace Force troops will continue to be stationed in and around Somethingey until this situation is resolved.

Imar raen. Imar semeraerth. Imar raegh.
Lugh Surehand
Se'har Maera of Tir Tairngire

OOC: Will make a post regarding the nukes tommorrow morning (tis one o'clock AM here), as I'm tired and need sleep. Apologies for taking so long to post, but I've been moving back into my dorm room all day.
Somethingey
09-01-2007, 11:23
OOC: Do you guys want me to post stuff about my islands and stuff?

IC: I still think it would be better if we held a peace talk. If everyone argrees with me then we can then pick the time and place of the meeting. Also the trail is done.

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THE CASE OF: Somethingey V.S Brain
CHARGES:
(5) 1st degree murder
(15) 2nd degree murder
(1) treason

OUT COME:
For all 5 1st degree murder charges Brain was found guilty
For all 15 2nd degree murder charges Brain was found guilty
For 1 charge of treason Brain was given a pass by the Empire for an untold reason.
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Also Brain was given a fair trial and it was found that he could have waited to tell the report at a later date. I will say he punishment within a week or so.
Gorkon
09-01-2007, 12:51
It is most reassuring to note that the leadership of Avisron has told us that there are no preparations to commit criminal acts against a nation that you have deemed worthy of colonisation yet. I would advise that this stance continues. However, there are only so many ways to interpret the statement "vast and painful consequences", and it is not a 'figure of speech' that I have ever come across. It certainly isn't one to use if you were merely 'questioning' this whole incident.

As you are a politician I shall tend not to believe a word that comes from your quill, of course, and my consistent belief in that philosophy is confirmed yet again by your response. As I do find it most revealing that you believe that Gorkon has threatened violence against you, given that my previous promise was quite clearly only directed at those people who intend to cause physical harm to Somethingey. Your opinion on the situation is irrelevant to me, as is how you phrase it, my only concern is whether or not you act upon it. My suspicion that you are lying through your teeth would seem to be confirmed, then - you do indeed intend to commit violence against Somethingey, as you took my promise of retaliation personally. Your spin-doctor needs replacing, I think.

This whole mess could have passed beneath the radar of everybody, unimportant as it is. But there always has to be somebody who feels obliged to blow irrelevant things out of all proportion, and if this is how your government reacts to similar cases then I have to pause to wonder how your economy even manages to function.

As to how the information leaked out in the first place, that is entirely the business of the legal authorities in Somethingey as is whether or not they choose to pursue an investigation into the matter. If it mattered at all, I disagree wholeheartedly with this entire scenario, though as I said before my own opinion - and yours as well - is moot as this is a sovereign matter. As you do not believe in the concept of national sovereignty, however, I am sure you will not mind if I dispatch a few thousand Civil Protection officers to Avisron to work on despatching justice according to Gorkonian law. I shall also inform you that we shall be performing a complete review of your legal system, to see whether or not it needs changing to conform to our own personal beliefs. I have not conducted any sort of research into your system of government or the beliefs of your people whatsoever, but I am sure they will approve of our actions! That is how a reasonable government thinks, after all, according to you.

Similarly the competence of the Somethingey government is their business as well. Its ineptitude will ultimately be its own downfall, and they don't need you going over there and killing innocent civilians all over the place to give it a helping hand in that regard. As you have conducted absolutely no research into the situation at all, for all you know such an action could only drive the people to supporting their government - assuming they don't support it in the first place, which we don't know either. Basically, you are risking the lives of thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands, in order to save one guilty man from a government you know nothing about, on the behalf of a people you know nothing about. Forgive me, but that seems very much like imperialism dressed up as political candy to me. In fact it is possibly the weakest example of spin I have seen in a long time - at least make an effort the next time you eye a tasty country that presents you with easy pickings.

If the people of Somethingey wanted your help, they would have asked for it - instead, the terrorists you mention have left the country with nuclear devices, apparently intending to use them against other countries for no apparent reason. How it happened is irrelevant at this point, it has happened and it needs to be dealt with. But I don't suppose you have any intelligence on that either, do you? Your logic seems to involve ploughing ahead and hoping you'll figure it all out afterwards.

Simply put, your own government's own actions here are proving without a doubt why national sovereignty is a necessity, to protect the internal workings of a nation and its people from the likes of you, and Gorkon has risen to that call for protection. My previous guarantee stands - for every weapon fired against Somethingey, whether it is a bullet or a missile, a cruise missile shall be fired against the perpetrators. If you have no intention of causing damage to Somethingey, you have nothing to worry about.

On the other hand, if you fancy having the support of your people for another election term, please by all means sit down and talk about the situation with the involved nations like civilised adults. Even the 'inept' government you are proposing a fight against has suggested such a course of action, which says a lot about yourself - a supposedly righteous government that has not even attempted diplomacy beyond an ultimatum and has already ignored at least one call for a peaceful solution.

Mull it over, and when you are ready to zip up and sit down, please say so. Any other 'clever retorts' you think would be appropriate will be ignored, as both our positions are quite clear and I have no intention of continuing this exchange to its likely conclusion. You either intend peace or violence, I only want to hear you state which one. If anything explodes over there in the meantime, I will be inclined to blame the most likely candidate for unprovoked violence in this whole farce.

Sincerely,

Commander-in-Chief Benjamin Greeson
Gorkonian Military High Command
Avisron
09-01-2007, 20:41
1st of all Somethingey is less then 100 years old, and when I say this I mean it that we have no nukes or other types of these weapons.

2nd no, we don't know how that terrorist got weapons the police is still looking into that.

3rd if no one saw this I will say it again. Press can't report police or military plans untill it has been seen to the end and everyone who was in danger is safe. So if the reporter just had waited a few hours he would not be going on trial, but would be telling a story about cops saving people.


[Response]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

First, that's what they all say.

Second, that's expected. The Somethingey government tends to know very little of what goes on in Somethingey.

Third, you're completely ignoring the fact that the reporter could very well have been pressured into reporting this news piece whether he indeed wanted to or not.

It is safe to say that if you were indeed looking into this aspect in the investigation you would have said so already in order to defend your unstable position.

[END]

OOC:My ocean patrol boats and interceptor Destroyers can go up to 45knots and 35knots respectively if I have extended fuel supply. I already sent my Airborne, which should be Boots on the ground about... nowish.

[OOC: That's fine, if you're only sending small patrol boats/destroyers anyway. If they're remotely large than they aren't going to be able to achieve the speeds you say. Further, if they aren't nuclear powered, they'll have to slow down ALOT to refuel, lest you risk turning your fleet of patrol boats and interceptor Destroyers into a fleet of BURNING patrol boats and interceptor Destroyers. Also, just for the record, how many ships are in this fleet?]

We now see that the irrationality of the inferior nation known as Avisron is
un-negoiatable, seeing how it fails to note that military operations are usually 'critical' information. We will deliver this warning to the ignorant leadership of Avisron. Any action you take against Somethingey, over the fact that you disagree with a fair and useful law, will be seen simply as an act of an Imperialist, which by act 208 of the Lone Alliance Rule of Law all Imperialist nations that attempt to invade upon false grounds will be considered an Enemy of the Lone Alliance. -Lone Alliance

[Response]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

We now see the irrationality of the inferior nation known as The Lone Alliance in that said nation has resorted to childish insults in such an early stage of this situation. Further, said nation severely misunderstands nearly every point made by the Libertarian Federation regardless [and probably BECAUSE] of the high degree said points overwhelm The Lone Alliances pityful and simpleton-style argument.

In closing, we'd like to point out once again that The Libertarian Federation of Avisron has said multiple times that no preparations have been made to further pressure Somethingey. However, it does not surprise us that The Lone Alliance didn't understand this; as said governments reading comprehension is rivaled by that of a bowl of cold spaghetti.

[END]

We must respectfully disagree with the leaders of Avisron. The purpose of government is to protect the populace. The will of the masses is largely irrelevant, as they generally lack the intellect to select their own destiny. Thus, a higher power must rule over them, safeguarding their lives by whatever means neccessary. Indeed, the democracies of Athens and Rome were felled by the hands of their own citizens, the ignorant masses too feeble to defend themselves.

Thusly, the restriction of information is by far the least of our rights as rulers of men. The Somethingey government's prosecution of this reporter, whose actions aided a small rebel cell in murdering civilians and soldiers alike. Publishing details of a military operation before it has been completed is an obvious crime, and is deserving of the harshest punishment. Therefore, Peace Force troops will continue to be stationed in and around Somethingey until this situation is resolved.

Imar raen. Imar semeraerth. Imar raegh.
Lugh Surehand
Se'har Maera of Tir Tairngire

OOC: Will make a post regarding the nukes tommorrow morning (tis one o'clock AM here), as I'm tired and need sleep. Apologies for taking so long to post, but I've been moving back into my dorm room all day.

[Response]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

The Libertarian Federation of Avisron hereby thanks the representative of Tir Tairngire for behaving like an adult and refraining from petty insults. We, however, still disagree.

Our main concern at this point is that little details about how the information was leaked has been released, and that it is at this point entirely possible that the information was intentionally leaked by the police in order to frame the journalist. Further, it is completely possible that the journalist was pressured by higher ranking members of his own news organization. We just don't know.

However, we are peacefully waiting until the investigation is complete before we begin making more demands. We view the discussion on the right to nation sovereignty as highly philosophical and almost completely irrelevant to this discussion, and will not continue on a path of debate.

[END]

IC: I still think it would be better if we held a peace talk. If everyone argrees with me then we can then pick the time and place of the meeting. Also the trail is done.

[Response]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

The Libertarian Federation of Avisron must question the motives behind this "peace conference." At this moment no one is fighting, and peace conferences are generally held to seek and end to violence.

If Somethingey wishes to discuss extraditing Brain to the Libertarian Federation, then we will take part in a conference.

We'd also like to point out that the trial is complete before the investigation has even been published. We need say no more.

[END]


-snip-

[Response from the Office of the Prime Minister]

It would appear that someone needs to step down off their high horse and attempt to help rather than continue to be a pretentious philosphical hag and contributing nothing to the debate.

Oops. That's you.

--Prime Minister David Wallace
--The Libertarian Federation of Avisron

[END]
The Lone Alliance
09-01-2007, 21:57
-Somethingey-
The 3rd Airborne and the 6th Engineer division landed in the late morning. As soon as they could the 3000 soldiers and 600 Engineers began unloading equipment and supplies, Cranes began lifting out blocks of Cement, metal building parts and other equipment for the new Airbase that The Lone Alliance was beginning to construct.

Units
3000 Soldiers
600 Engineer\Logistics
48 Bofors 40mm AA
12 88mm Flak
6 Patriot Launchers
40 M113A Apcs (Various)
30 BMD-3s
90 C-130s
20 F-23s
3 SU-24s

3rd Fleet

Advance group

30 Fast attack Craft
12 Fast interceptor Destroyers

Main Fleet
30 Destroyers
8 Victor Class Subs
1 Escort Carrier
2 Iowa Helibattleships
11 Crusiers
4 SA Cruisers
1 Amphibious Assault ship
40 Oilers, Supply ships, Transports, and other odds and ends.
Somethingey
09-01-2007, 22:54
Our F.B.I has found out how the information was leak and our S.W.A.T unit #3 is bring her in as we speak. Her name is Liz and she was our head of exports and imports. Also because of this Brain's case has been put on hold and our emperor has decided to tell you all that we believe that Brain is a terrorist. We were using his trial has a way to get information on the terrorist. Sorry for any problems this will cause and on a final note Liz and Brain will get a new trial for new charges.

Our peace talk idea is still open to talk about anything about the situation we are in.
Avisron
09-01-2007, 23:57
[Open Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

Does this mean that the original charges against Brain have been dropped and that he is no longer considered guilty of anything?

[END]
Somethingey
09-01-2007, 23:59
yes, but it also means a new trial will take place with new charges and maybe the old ones too.
Avisron
10-01-2007, 01:13
[Ocean Surrounding Somethingey]

The outpouring of international goodwill for Somethingey had definately made the prospect of delivering a massive, punishing blow to the Somethingey government much harder.

Because the political implications of having a massive SSGN fleet discovered near Somethingey would be painful for Avisron, all but a single SSGN are pulled away from the region and put into standby at a more secure location.

At the same time the Avisronite Department of Defense begins formulating a new operation to fund terrorist actions against the Somethingey government.
Somethingey
10-01-2007, 01:38
That is it. Avisron if you don't mind murders to live with your people then I want to make a deal. ALL terrorist found in Somethingey will be given to Avisron. Do you like the deal?
Avisron
10-01-2007, 01:40
[OOC: Is that an OOC comment, or an IC one?]
Somethingey
10-01-2007, 01:41
Ic
Avisron
10-01-2007, 01:49
[Open Message]

To: Somethingey
From: The Avisronite Department of State

Given that we have, to this point, seen no reason to believe anyone being labled as "terrorist" by you is actually dangerous, we would completely agree to take these 'bad people' off your hands.

There are some conditions. We would like to send send a detail of Avisronite Central Intelligence Division [ACID] Agents to your nation to question all of the terrorists beforehand.

After they are cleared they will be released into Avisron to live out their lives supporting themselves or choosing whatever other path they wish to.

[END]
Somethingey
10-01-2007, 02:03
Fine, but Somethingey guards will be with theACID agents to keep watch over the terrorist.


OOC: This sucks all I wanted to do was see how good of an rp writer I was and now everyone thinks Somethingey is an evil empire which it is not. I think:confused:
Avisron
10-01-2007, 02:26
[OOC: Don't take it personally. I don't think Somethingey is an evil empire, and I believe that only like one other person in this thread has even REMOTELY opposed Somethingey. You've got loads of international support, as well.]

[IC]

To: The Avisronite Department of State

Our plans have changed. We would like to sail a naval force your nation to provide transportation and processing for the 'terrorists.' If you could be so kind as to direct us to which port would be best, our forces will arrive shortly.

[END]
Somethingey
10-01-2007, 02:36
Well lets see.......oh! The one on the Southern side of the main island. Brain and Liz will be there by the time you come.

OOC: No, I tried getting into an alliance but they said no because of this problem.
The Lone Alliance
10-01-2007, 03:06
Secret Message to Somethingey:
Our forces will be ready if either the Terrorists or Avisron try something.

Secret IC:
-TLA Military Command-
"I don't like this at all, I bet this is just an excuse by Avisron to break through Somethingey's defense line."
"That's why we have a backup plan in place."
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
10-01-2007, 03:33
"ICCD will give you one last chance to turn over the journalist before we begin attacking your military establishment. We can only suggest that in the future you secure your national security secrets or temporarily detain anyone who may pose such a threat. If the press is censored and controlled it deprives the truth from being known, from their perspective, although noted press information is not necisarily 100% accurate, and could be doctored or used as a tool to aid sociopathic tendancy. I know that if any Dian Journalists were in your country and reporting what was occuring there, be it police actions or military actions regardless of what your governments motive was, executing them for doing there job would bring harsh consequences.

We understand that there is current domestic issues in your country. We have no wish to destroy your government but we are willing to take away your capacity to enforce unreasonable law.

We will give you three options in this ultimatum:

1. Change your law and release all journalists so charged --- and they may have refugee landing in ICCD if it eases your needs.

2. Surrender your civil and military capacities outright and we will send forces to aid your struggle against anyone who objects to reasonable rule.

3. Face use of force to destabalize and destroy your capacity to enforce your unreasonble rule

ICCD sees no benifit in getting into a large war with Lone Alliance over such a simple matter; however, if Lone Alliance moves to protect your military infrastructure, the damages due to this war could far outstrip the issue. All this could be avoided by better protecting your information, such as securing areas where operations are ongoing, or not allowing your soilders to reveal sensitive information. This different approach to reducing the harm due to intelligence leaks wthin your country. could elleviate the need to execute witnesses, afterall what need to kill them after the opperation --- unless you are operating in a way that attacks the basis of humanity. It is understandable to gaurd information but to kill journalists for reporting anything that pertains to your military or police is outright a civil rights violation in regards to free speech. If your operations and defence planning wern't so sloppy you wouldn't need to execute every jounralist, via a proposterous publicized mock court process,who talked about what you were doing, that is outrageous. It is easy to require information to be secured but an act of relaying what they know, where not treason, is just not warrented to hold the death penalty. From what I have seen this law they, you, have is just a way to silence the press and cover up their, your, incompetences.


As reported on Dian ESB news and sent to you in multiple format and via various media channels, the interveiwer, as a retroactive note, being a female anchor with the speaker being the Logothe of the Drome, broadcast from the Upper Senate Chambers.

The current logothe being a 60 some male. His features most pronounced by his long whitegrey hair, darker tones appearing near the bottom; his full beard more of a Persian style Hammurabi style beard and long white sidelocks dangling down below his cheekbones. Having a deeply tanned complexion from countless years in the Dian Tropics. Still fit for his age wearing a white toga and sash.The sash having a center yellow stripe then two surrounding white stripes finally the embroidered gold edges to compose the sash. Various metals on his left side opposite to the sash. He also wore a thicker tiara like amulet laden crown with a large carat yellow diamond centered, an an historical artifact now aged over 1000 yeras. Once in the royal crown jewels now an Imperial Office artifact for state addresses regarding major external division occasions .

The interveiwer meanwhile a fit female with short brown hair and a stylish female business suit somewhere in her mid 30's. The discussion was ongoing, however the key message was clear in that one statement.

This all prompted by the simple question, "What is your message to them?"


All this time the Logothe having a stern yet worn look on his face. An offset to the wear was the elite lictors, upgraded praetorian gaurd, armed with IMP's - uzi like weapons, at his sides looking far from worn. Luckily the makeup gave the logothe a much smoother look.

The point that won the heart of the local secretariat -- media was "The media can be societies friend, alterting the public to risks even though catastrophese such as these may occur there is no reason to blame the media for spotlighting public nterest, especially when it pertains to urban violence right in the heart of populated centers.
Avisron
10-01-2007, 04:06
[Secure Message]

To: ICCD
From: The Avisronite Department of State

We have secured the transport of the so-called "terrorists" from Somethingey. We'll be picking them up within the next week or so. At that point they'll be free to stay in Avisron, leave and travel to ICCD, or whatever other path they choose.

We'd like to suggest that you not escalate things to the point that Somethingey reconsider their offer to hand the terrorists over to us.

We'd also like to request your help incase the Lone Alliance pigdogs attack our transport forces.

[END]
Avisron
10-01-2007, 04:21
Well lets see.......oh! The one on the Southern side of the main island. Brain and Liz will be there by the time you come.

OOC: No, I tried getting into an alliance but they said no because of this problem.

[Secure Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of Defence

Our comrades at the Department of State have been saying it will take a "few weeks" for Avisronite transport forces to arrive. Well, that was for deception purposes only. In reality we have a fleet just four days away, and we plan on launching a small, fast, Rodgers Class Corvette from this fleet. It will be able to travel at roughly 45 knots and be to your port facility within 32 hours. We'd like for the transfer to take place as quickly as possible and without anyone knowing - especially The Lone Alliance, ICCD, or any other trigger happy morons. Please, if you can just help us accomplish this, the Libertarian Federation will disappear from your list of problems.

[END]
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
10-01-2007, 06:26
Dispatch from the Logothe's Office via personal courier arriving via air transport.

"This is wonderful news for us to hear, we are still hoping that this same occurance doesn't repeat itself. We have begun operations to divert a fleet stationed out of west lakes, that is currently on Training exercises, we can meet you part way. After securing the Journalist via a small transport boat, we can return to the fleet where upon we can exercise secret measures to return to a safe area, where we can find out more information and find out what future actions to take to provide assistance.

We thank you for your support in bringing about a peaceful resolution to this issue.

A position for transfer can be arranged in general and the exact point of transfer can be determined at the time when both our ships are in the right area.
We suggest you dress the person in Dian Military uniform which I have brought in the right size. We have also have a number of Dians that can be exchanged at the same time, all in a partial similiar facial appearance. Extreme measures perhaps but we hope that taking the extra secure steps will benifit everyone.

However at the least we are willing to meet you at sea.

For security reaasons we ask that everything is written on our secure parchment behind a secure popup barrier so that any electronic devices will not be able to detect the exact specifics. I and my two assistants will watch what you write, be sure to write more than what you are saying and point to the words that are extra. This may appear rather bizarre to you but it improves information transfer and counter measures substancially, and minus having premapped codewords there is little more we can do to secure the transfer. Although understandably this is not Royal Level Security measures this operation is classed Top Secret and information is only on a need to know basis.

Thankyou for your dedication. We invite you to a meet the press, state visit and invite you as well as all other parties to speak with us in Urbs Lacus Medius where we can have a social and perhaps work out arrangements with all parties on rights of the press international exchanges and alternatives to press executions arising from news reports. Security Measures and damage prevention. An information system which notifies press of blackout areas for public safety reasons may be useful, that is giving specific information via a pager that all members of the press are required to wear that also inclludes a a gps/mobile tracking capacity so that members of the press can be properly identified by friend or foe systems, as well as notify them when they are in a black out area. The blackout information can be classed in specific types. The press should be able to report there is a blackout, and get any more specific information from the authorities on the reason to the level that doesn't jepordize public safety or national security. ICCD would be willing to construct the devices and software and other technology as well as to provide the training for implementation of the technology, and sell it at cost to all interested parties. Securing the release of the journalist is a major victory for Liberty, however securing a working compromise to protect and inform the public is still high on the priorities of ICCD.


[Secure Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of Defence

Our comrades at the Department of State have been saying it will take a "few weeks" for Avisronite transport forces to arrive. Well, that was for deception purposes only. In reality we have a fleet just four days away, and we plan on launching a small, fast, Rodgers Class Corvette from this fleet. It will be able to travel at roughly 45 knots and be to your port facility within 32 hours. We'd like for the transfer to take place as quickly as possible and without anyone knowing - especially The Lone Alliance, ICCD, or any other trigger happy morons. Please, if you can just help us accomplish this, the Libertarian Federation will disappear from your list of problems.

[END]
Somethingey
10-01-2007, 11:15
Deal, no heavliy armed ships can enter our island chain. Is this ok?
Avisron
11-01-2007, 00:33
[OOC: I believe I've been misunderstood. ICCD, the message to you was simply asking you to refrain from starting a war since the journalists would be released soon anyway. It was NOT saying that Avisron would be turning the journalists over to ICCD, as it appears to have been understood. The post you quoted from me was directed at SOMETHINGEY, and contains a secret plan to send a small vessel in to retrieve the journalists.]
Somethingey
11-01-2007, 00:44
OOC: Ok, but Somethingey is not a super power (yet) so I would not rp a war with you in risk of people coming to your aid.
Avisron
11-01-2007, 00:53
OOC: Ok, but Somethingey is not a super power (yet) so I would not rp a war with you in risk of people coming to your aid.

[OOC: That's not what I was asking for. Read my communication to your government. I was TELLING the Somethingey government that Avisron was going to secretly pick up the people in secret so that outside parties [The Lone Alliance, etc] don't interfere.]
Somethingey
11-01-2007, 01:04
OOC: Well as long as no one makes this rp longer I don't care.
I didn't work hard on this and I forgot what I wanted to do so I want to end this soon.
Avisron
11-01-2007, 02:13
[OOC: Okay then. Lets finish this.]

[IC]

The Rodgers Class Corvette had been sailing at its maximum speed of 45 knots since negotiations with Somethingey resulted in a deal to hand over the journalists. The plan was simple: Get into the port, communicate with the Somethingey officials, secure the journalists, and get back to the fleet.

That's exactly what the ship was doing, too. The lightly armed unit passed through Somethingeys waters and moved to a position outside the port it had been directed to. Then it sent a radio message into the port.

"This is the transport provided by the Libertarian Federation of Avisron. We're here for the so-called terrorists. We'll send in our helicopter to retrieve them, or you can bring them to us, whatever you want."
The Lone Alliance
11-01-2007, 03:34
-Southern Port-
TLA Soldiers stood in lookout positions as the Somethingey moved the accused terrorists to the docks for the Avisron Corvette to pick them up.
The soldiers got ready as their orders came through.
#"Okay if the local terrorists are still around they might try and pull something, Snipers remain in position and keep those two targeted. If any shots are fied by Avisron forces hit the ship with everything you have."#

After a short pause a soldier came over the radio and shot back a reply.

#"Sir we only have a handful of LAWs and a 20mm Gun."#
Another long pause.
#"Just watch them, Command out"#
Avisron
11-01-2007, 23:15
[Southern Port]

The Avisronite corvette moved directly into the port and up to the docks. It's agile steering made it very easy to move within the tighter confines of the port. On the deck remote controlled weapons stations consisting of grenade launches and 50 caliber machine guns stood at stand-by incase anyone attempted to assault the vessel. Then, another radio message was sent out.

"We're prepared to begin recieving the personnel. We're dispatching an Operations Detail to bring them in."
Somethingey
12-01-2007, 22:47
The Somethingey soldiers were all at the ready sitting in a 5 ton truck and 2 M998 HMMVW with their gunners at the ready were patrolling the area. The last thing anyone need right now was protesters and then for a riot to break out. There were 25 soldiers all in black uniforms and black vest. They were all armed with their M8s this was the first time Somethingey let a prisoner go and they weren't to sure what would happen.
Gorkon
13-01-2007, 06:09
The daily meeting of the leading figures of the Gorkonian government was well underway, with various domestic and international reports being strewn across the table. The first thing on the agenda was the situation in Somethingey, which on its own was unimportant but it had the potential to develop into something more significant, until now at any rate.

"It appears as though the Somethingey government has bowed to international pressure," General Venerus said upon reading the dossier that had been passed around the long table, which he proceeded to toss roughly down.

"Of course they have," General Rael growled, with some hostility in his tone. The elderly gentleman sat back in his chair and folded his arms smugly, toying with his medals subconsciously. "Just as I told you they would. Fortunate, given that we weren't willing to waste money on cruise missiles for such a pithy nation."

"That isn't entirely accurate," the civilian representative, Minister Jerold Haadri pointed out with irritation. "You were willing to waste a great deal of money on such a 'pithy nation', not to mention the possible lives that could have been lost. Perhaps not on cruise missiles, but what you intended was much worse. And after funding increases for the healthcare system were denied, this whole debacle has been particularly irritating to the Civilian Council."

"The 'Civilian Council'," Rael spat.

"Is a legitimate legislative body that we have great respect for," Greeson snapped. Until now the elderly but imposing man had sat in silence at his position at the head of the table, listening to the ongoing discussions of the day's news. He chose this moment to intervene with his gruff, but seasoned voice. "As for the situation at hand, it has been resolved peacefully. Probably. Satellite intelligence earlier this morning has confirmed the arrival of an Avisron ship and the commencement of a prisoner transport. I can't see an ostensibly democratic government being so deceptive as to reach a compromise and then go to war regardless, but I expect that anything could happen. In the meantime, our involvement would seem to have come to an end. Thankfully. I was never comfortable with our solution."

"I shall cancel the invasion plans, then, sir?" Rael asked.

"With the threat of immediate violence lessened, and the existing presence of The Lone Alliance forces in Somethingey, our 'offer' of large numbers of troops for 'defensive purposes' would seem to be an overstatement of the situation and would probably be rejected by their government," Greeson shook his head. "TLA troops make the circumstances somewhat less straightforward for us now anyway. Keep the four fleets mobilised just in case, but I can't imagine them being deployed at this point."

"Yes sir," Rael said. "For what it is worth I am pleased. It was a waste of time getting involved in this farce, with very little in the way of a reward at the end."

"No effort was expended on our part this way," Greeson shrugged. "I wrote two short letters, and goaded a political leader into making a fool of himself - the reward was right there, if you ask me. But, Gorkon and The Lone Alliance appear as defenders of the defenceless, Avisron thinks they have achieved something positive by securing the release of that journalist, who has incidentally been spared a sharp drop and a sudden stop, and Somethingey itself is still standing. Everybody is happy, everybody thinks they have won, and we are the only ones who have not spent a coin on it."

"When you put it that way..." Rael said, thinking aloud more than anything else.

"Quite so," Greeson nodded, satisfied that he was satisfied. "Now, on to more important business..."
Kesshite
13-01-2007, 07:51
In Somethingy, reporters hang while terrorists run free.


That's what information from our Somethingy foreign office where the strange tale of a reporter name "Brian" has played out for several weeks now. "Brian" was originally held on several account of murder when a military raid went sour because his report alerted rebel insurgents in that area. In Somethingy, such press irresponsibility carries a maximum sentence of death. Not surprisingly, "Brian" was found guilty.

When new of his possible execution reached the world stage, several nations were outraged, especially The Libertarian Federation of Avisron. Rumor is that the small island chain of Somethingy suddenly found itself in the sights of Avisron's mighty military and the Emperor began to piss his robes. Soon after Aviston made its threat, however, The Lone Alliance appeared ridding a white horse and promising to run the Aviston varmints out of town.


After a few days of tense stand-off, the Emperor's advisors were able to get him out from under the bed. He then announced that "Brian" as well as "Liz," an importer of Somethingy, were terrorists who had managed to smuggle WMD into the country.

He then handed them over to Avisron.

That's right, report a news story and die; smuggle in WMDs and move to Avisron. Hey, I hear Avisron is lovely this time of year, maybe I should sneak some of my mother-in-laws fruitcake into Somethingy? It could kill a crazed rhino.

Until I'm out of words, you're looking through The Raven's Eye.
Avisron
13-01-2007, 16:37
[OOC: Can we just assume the prisoners have been transferred to the vessel now? Also, how many people besides Brain and Liz am I taking?]
Somethingey
13-01-2007, 19:00
OOC: Yes and about 5 people

IC: Sorry, but the emperor is unable to send this message in person. Somethingey is now closings its borders untill all the rebels have been found and we belive that should take a year or so. We also have news on the WMD. It seems that the location of one of them has been found. That is all I can tell you and we plan on handling it our selves.
Avisron
13-01-2007, 20:31
[OOC: Thanks.]

[IC]

The seven 'terrorists' are brought aboard the corvette and given quarters towards the interior of the ship. A total of three medium-sized rooms are provided for their comfort for the day or so they will be aboard the corvette before being transferred to the Cobalt Class Carrier, the flagship of the fleet.

Plenty of work has to be undertaken to prepare the personnel for their integration into a different society. Upon their transport to the larger carrier, ACID Agents interrogate each of the 'terrorists' individually to determine if they could become violent, hold a grudge against the Avisronite government, and to generally determine what they plan to do with their new lives in a free nation.

After the individual interrogations are complete the 'terrorists' are given their new Avisronite National ID Cards, which will aid them over the next few months.

The fleet continues to sail towards Triesa, Avisron; where the 'terrorists' will be released to fend for themselves in a libertarian world.
Avisron
13-01-2007, 20:50
Avisron Scores Major Victory on World Stage

[CSHR News - Triesa, Avisron] -- The Libertarian Federation has scored its first major openly visable victory on the world stage.

After a stunning show of arrogance and stupidity on the part of the small nation of Somethingey, the Libertarian Federation became directly involved in the human rights case of several journalists who were being prosecuted simply for reporting the news. It is widely believed by many in Avisron that the entire debacle was a vast right-wing hit-job against unfavorable left-wing journalists; polls show.

After the Libertarian Federation placed economic sanctions on Somethingey, several right-wing imperialist nations voiced their opposition, stating that the government should have complete control over what the newsmedia report and when it reports it, regardless of how obvious it is that the Somethingey Police Force intentionally leaked information as a way to entrap the journalist.

The nation of The Lone Alliance is one particularly hilarious example of one such right-wing nation. It declared that it was sending military forces to defend Somethingey against a "imperialist military threat," thereby becoming the first nation to even move a military unit in the conflict. Their hypocracy continues to show through to this day, as their troops remain in Somethingey after the situation has been resolved. It can easily be predicted that the TLA troops will leave much slower than they arrived.

The nation of Gorkon was also involved in the childish attempts that foreign governments made to belittle Prime Minister David Wallace, effectively declaring themselves "da best" and everyone else "poo poo heads."

In the end a few things can be said of this whole short debacle. The Libertarian Federation of Avisron is now viewed as a much more powerful nation diplomatically, as its economic embargo of Somethingey completely turned the situation around. Militarily, Avisron stood up to much larger nations and came out without ever being engaged.

It is a great time in the shining Libertarian Federation.
The Lone Alliance
14-01-2007, 00:25
OOC: You showed yourself as an idiot to the world, no one doubts that The Lone Alliance is anything BUT a rightwing group. Considering the recent stance against ACTO. So your news would have been laughed at by basicly everyone. Oh and TirTairngire sent soldiers first.

-LAN-
"Today the standoff with the Imperialist 'Libertarian' Federation of Avisron suceeded without violence as the nation arrived and took the Terrorists aboard their ship, Lone Alliance forces kept guard through the transfer, of which there was no incident."

"Of course since Avisron seems to support terror, this classifys Avisron as a terrorist supporter and therefore The Lone Alliance has enacted law 2152, which bars all Avisron citizens from entering The Lone Alliance. Any and all Avisron assets in The Lone Alliance have been frozen."

"Of further news in Somethingy, Lone Alliance forces are to begin a full pullout for redeployment to defend the Nation of Kanami."
Avisron
14-01-2007, 01:13
[OOC: Actually, the opinions of two or AT MOST three nations don't constitute "the world," nor do they really matter to the Avisronite government]
Avisron
14-01-2007, 01:23
[CSHR News - Triesa, Avisron] -- The Lone Alliance is at it again, this time declaring the Libertarian Federation a supporter of what they call "terrorism."

"I find the accusation of elementary school-level logic at best," the Prime Minister said in a conversation with the Parliament, "Our crackhead capitalist government is obviously too poor to support terrorism," the PM said in an attempt at humor.

In response to TLA's right-wing moralist hitjob against the Libertarian Federation, the Prime Minister this morning presented paperwork to place a Full Economic Embargo on The Lone Alliance. Shortly thereafter paperwork was presented to extend the embargo of Somethingey to an undisclosed date in order to evaluate the nation.

"We just can't afford to risk these nutjob regimes benefiting from our own economy, and since that nation believes in blindly prosecuting those they deem as 'terrorist' without researching the situation, I feel it is in the best interest of the Libertarian Federation to dismantle contact with them," the Prime Minister said in another press conference this morning.

The story continues to unfold.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
14-01-2007, 01:47
A dispatch to Avirison:

Considering that you have no intent to turn the journalists over to ICCD, we will not have personnel waiting for you, and ICCD is still pleased with the result as long as no harm is brought to them by Avirison.


A dispatch to Somethingy:

Considering the sternness of your laws, we would like to offer you an option for any of your citizens sentanced to death or any other sentance. That being that they may have amnesty in an ICCD refugee camp. This option may reduce any foreign influence on your country in the future, and will likely to save you money. So upon arrest or conviction your government can feel open to ask the convict if they would like to instead be sent into exile in Intracircumcordei. We would like peaceful coexistance and will assist you how we can in securing a peaceful and humane society within Somethingy.
Somethingey
14-01-2007, 05:39
OOC: I'm starting to get bored being an Empire.........

IC: As emperor of Somethingey it is my job to do what is best for my people and I think it is time Somethingey goes into the new age of democracy. That is why I have ordered that this last order given by an empuror of Somethingey will be carried out. All persons in Somethingey besides the few will get the chance to vote for a new leader in one month from now. Also on a final note all future votes will be held in every 4 years and that in one month I will be pround to give my seat as leader of Somethingey to the preson who is elected.
The Lone Alliance
14-01-2007, 09:34
(OOC: Ask your buddies in ACTO. And since you took Brian and Liz, both considered Terrorists, that means you are harboring terrorists)

-LAN- (Lone Alliance News)
"In the typical response of an lawless nation, Avisron seems to pride itself on the ability to allow terrorists to become legal citizens within their country."
"Let us hope they keep that stance when Liz is found smuggling Nuclear Warheads into the nation."
"In response to the Embargo, Council Member Dawson (S) had this to say, "like those wretches were welcome here to begin with, we won't miss whatever 'business' they could ever bring."
Avisron
14-01-2007, 17:46
[OOC: I'm not sure what you're talking about, TLA. Not to mention that I don't know WHAT you want me to ask my buddies in ACTO, I think you need to realise that the opinion presented on CSHR News does not represent MY OOC view. Further, the opinion presented on CSHR News does not represent the opinion of everyone in the fictional state of Avisron. I suppose that if you're worried about CSHR's portrayal of TLA as a right-wing state, you need only realise it's just a media hitjob against TLA. I suppose, however, that if you're trying to continue the "showed yourself as an idiot to the world" debate, I would have to say that ACTO doesn't constitute the world, either. Also, on the topic of harboring terrorists, you're neglecting to point out that Brian and Liz are only "considered Terrorists" by a few nations. As Avisron has pointed out on numerous occasions, Somethingey isn't exactly the most straightforward nation in the world. By siding with a nation like that, TLA would be doing nothing but HURTING its image. Avisron has painted a picture of mindlessly labeling people terrorists, and you're playing right into it.]
Avisron
14-01-2007, 18:03
-LAN- (Lone Alliance News)
"In the typical response of an lawless nation, Avisron seems to pride itself on the ability to allow terrorists to become legal citizens within their country."
"Let us hope they keep that stance when Liz is found smuggling Nuclear Warheads into the nation."
"In response to the Embargo, Council Member Dawson (S) had this to say, "like those wretches were welcome here to begin with, we won't miss whatever 'business' they could ever bring."

[From the Office of the Prime Minister]

Thank you for describing the Libertarian Federation as "lawless." You see, our philosophy is that average citizens should be able to live their lives without having to conform to vast and twisted laws around every corner, thus restricting personal liberty.

We pride ourselves on small government and few laws. Those who do break our few laws are punished, for example, but we'll never carpet-label a group of people "terrorist" just because they don't support our government. Fuck, there's not even much of a government to support.

By contrast, the government of The Lone Alliance is massive and reaches into every aspect of the lives of its citizens. Whereas citizens in the Libertarian Federation can sometimes go their whole lives without ever having to encounter a government agent, it would be quite hard for a citzen of The Lone Alliance to go a full day without having to dredge through mindless collective bureaucracy.

So yes, if you wish to call us "lawless," we will not only be proud, but we will thank you for the compliment.

--Prime Minister David Wallace
--The Libertarian Federation of Avisron
Somethingey
14-01-2007, 21:02
Why does everyone "attack" each other like this? Why do you care so much about how other goverments treat their people? Unless the people are unhappy with their goverment there is no way that you should care. Also even though Somethingey is not really a Avisron fan we dislike the childish comments towards them. If everyone will talk like the grown ups that they are Somethingey will listen, but if you don't we won't listen and just not care anymore. This is not pointed at everyone some of you are actually just trying to find a solution or just listening on whats happening and keeping to yourself.
The Lone Alliance
15-01-2007, 01:06
OOC: Irony this has become a 'Freedom of the press' the freedom of the press to harass and insult others.
Avisron
15-01-2007, 01:18
[Response]

Directed At: Somethingey
From: The Avisronite Department of State

While what you say is obviously true, there's a very simple reason that it isn't completely accurate. That reason being that it is impossible for outside parties to determine whether or not the people actually support a government.

On the note of why we care about how other governments treat their people - it's because we feel a certain responsibility. The Libertarian Federation is a mildly powerful nation and a VERY stable one. We feel that we should take advantage of this to aid people around the world; to spread liberty and end opression. Of course, we don't want to endanger our own stability and existance while doing this.

Congratulations on your new shot at democracy.

[END]
Avisron
15-01-2007, 01:19
OOC: Irony this has become a 'Freedom of the press' the freedom of the press to harass and insult others.

[OOC: Media wars rock.]
Hdgcfcf
15-01-2007, 01:32
"President Alluri, take a look at this", his panting aid who had run from his 1st floor office said as he shoved the latest headlines from Somethingey.

"Hmm... He should be forced into a prison for life. That way, the system can work him to death, and still make profit. I'll try to pass legislation on this today. We need to make it illegal for the media to report on military actions without the consent of the government", President Ashok Alluri replied back smartly.
Somethingey
15-01-2007, 14:51
Ok. Two partys have been made with their candidates. The partys are as follow The Dog party who want Somethingey to stay an empire and The Wolf party which was founded by the emperor himself. They want Somethingey to become a full democracy and make new branches of goverment to do certain jobs. Everyone was asked to vote we should know the winner within five or so weeks. For the protection of both candidates their name will be kept sercet untill the rebels hace stop attacking.
Also in other news the rebels want to sit down and have a talk in hopes for peace we will tell everyone the out come when we are done with the talks.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
15-01-2007, 21:33
Ok. Two partys have been made with their candidates. The partys are as follow The Dog party who want Somethingey to stay an empire and The Wolf party which was founded by the emperor himself. They want Somethingey to become a full democracy and make new branches of goverment to do certain jobs. Everyone was asked to vote we should know the winner within five or so weeks. For the protection of both candidates their name will be kept sercet untill the rebels hace stop attacking.
Also in other news the rebels want to sit down and have a talk in hopes for peace we will tell everyone the out come when we are done with the talks.
Dispatch to Somethingey

This is good news the Logothoes office hopes that democracy prevails. ICCD is willing to act as an arbitrator to assist in brining peace to somethingey, as a nuetral party. We are also willing to send peacekeepers to assist in stabalizing your country against further tensions.
Somethingey
16-01-2007, 23:11
Our talks with the rebels have bear fruit for Somethingey. They said that has long as for vote for President stays fair all attacks shall stop. Which we plan to keep fair anyway.
Avisron
17-01-2007, 03:00
[Avisron City, Avisron]

The morning discussion between Prime Minister David Wallace and his security and political advisors had just started a few moments earlier. Early on todays agenda was the situation in Somethingey, which was proving itself to have been a smart investment of the Libertarian Federations time.

"Somethingey is declaring their talks with the so called rebels have been a success. I find it hard to believe that a group that was declared to be so evil and hell bent on the destruction of Somethingey has suddenly changed its mind just because," the External Relations advisor said to start the discussion.

Wallace looked up from his cup of tea and started to speak. "Lets see... I have a feeling the guys at the State Department can spin that in a favorable direction. Tell them to bring something up about the situation becoming better after we removed some targets of conflict from the situation, or some random shit like that."

"Very well sir. Do you want us to keep any military units near Somethingey?"

"Probably not a great idea," Wallace started, "Be able to react, but don't encroach."

The conversation today was short and simple.