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OOC THREAD: Czardaian Civil War

Czardas
04-01-2007, 21:19
Ok, most of the organisation and planning for this has been occurring over IRC. This is going to be a closed RP; everyone who is participating in it already knows who they are, and the more obvious ones are listed below, although they may change sides at any point.

If you're really, really dying to join, drop me a TG with which side you're planning to support, why, etc. and I'll let you know.

Summary: The Czardaian Government has just been clusterfucked. Why, how, and by whom is explained in the IC thread (coming soon!). The country has been divided into four major groups. Loyalists are a large, heterogeneous group of pro-democracy forces, seeking to restore a similar government to the Alhoun administration under Joshua i-Latinu (a former deputy assistant foreign minister, 3rd in line to the position and thought to be quite competent, although he doesn't appear in the first five posts at all). The Imperium Sanctum Rei Publicae Dorii, or just Dorium, desires complete independence and is known for its strongly conservative, Catholic outlook on things. The Meritocracy is a massive shadowy underground organisation led by a man known only as 'Vermius'; its primary objective is to restore order where there was once anarchy and create a government determined by achievement, rather than democracy. As the name may indicate. Finally, the Socialists, who are initially led by a person named Albert Razryuschivensko (although he'll die a few posts in), are the largest group, seeking to reform the ultra-capitalizt Czardaian system, increase basic healthcare and welfare, etc.

Independents abound, of course; they're the people who don't really care. And there are several large conglomerates prowling around and doing whatever conglomerates do, which is buy stuff and raise private armies.

The following people are known to be participating (at least for now):

Supporting the Loyalists
Space Union
Nueve Italia
Imperial Whyatica
Velkya

[u]Supporting the Imperium Sanctum Rei Publicae Dorii
Doomingsland
Manus Dei [Doomingsland based terrorist group]
The Kregaian Imperium [The Warmaster]
Midlonia

Supporting the Meritocrats
Questers
Praetonia
Novacom
Franberry
Skinny87

Supporting the Socialists
Yafor 2

Other/Unknown
Cravan, possibly
Generia
We Buy It, Inc. [roleplayed by The Silver Sky]
The Greater Czardaian Defence Initiative [roleplayed by Czardas]
Space Union Defence Industries [roleplayed by Space Union]
Specialty Pie Manufacturers [roleplayed by Franberry]
Assorted independents

Force strengths will be sort of described in the main thread, et cetera, et cetera.

If there's anything I forgot, let me know. <.<
Franberry
04-01-2007, 21:20
add Specialty Pie Manufacturers, wich will be roleplayed by me
and put me under Meritocrats
Czardas
04-01-2007, 21:27
ZOMG PIE FIRING GUNS!!!

added.
Czardas
04-01-2007, 22:04
IC thread is up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513303)
Franberry
04-01-2007, 22:04
*tips hat*

many thanks
The Warmaster
05-01-2007, 02:39
Put me in as supporting ISRD; IC post coming soon.
Doomingsland
05-01-2007, 02:49
Argh...you just had to start this while I'm caught up in four other RPs, didn't you? :)
Cravan
05-01-2007, 03:09
Heh, didn't even realise I was invited till I checked this thread. :P Anywho, not so sure I can participate what with finals coming up in two weeks and such. Perhaps if I dropped out of another RP, which I may have to do sometime very soon.
Velkya
05-01-2007, 03:20
Sign me up as a supporter of the Loyalists, unofficially.
Czardas
05-01-2007, 19:29
Heh, didn't even realise I was invited till I checked this thread. :P Anywho, not so sure I can participate what with finals coming up in two weeks and such. Perhaps if I dropped out of another RP, which I may have to do sometime very soon.

If I recall you asked to join over MSN a while back. If you don't have time, you don't have to play. :)

Velkya, Warmaster, you're cleared. Doom, that's your own damn fault for being an RP whore. :p
The Scandinvans
05-01-2007, 19:39
Can the Scandinvan Patriarch Catholic Church support the Imperium Sanctum Rei Publicae Dorii covertly with supplies, arms, and money?
Czardas
05-01-2007, 19:55
Ok, most of the organisation and planning for this has been occurring over IRC. This is going to be a closed RP; everyone who is participating in it already knows who they are, and the more obvious ones are listed below, although they may change sides at any point.

In case it's not obvious enough, that means no.
Southeastasia
07-01-2007, 06:30
The Meritocracy is a massive shadowy underground organisation led by a man known only as 'Vermius'; its primary objective is to restore order where there was once anarchy and create a government determined by achievement, rather than democracy.
Ah, reminds me of Lee Kuan Yew and his Asian values.

My main interests, if I can participate, would be getting my diplomatic missions the hell outta there and whatever Southeast Asian citizens in Czardas as well.
Space Union
07-01-2007, 07:16
*Floods nation with storm of troops across SU-Czardian border* :p
Nueve Italia
12-01-2007, 15:53
Holy Hell (yes, that's an oxymoron), I just saw this, tried to read some of this, but it's too long, not enough time (college applications, school, got mono unfortunately, stuff). Can someone summarize it for me? Thanks if you can
Czardas
12-01-2007, 16:37
The first post in this (OOC) thread summarises the situation as shortly as I could do so. Writing it out took 9000 words, so I don't blame you for not reading it all. ;)
Scaveutland
12-01-2007, 19:42
I may join in later, but no promises now, neh?
Czardas
12-01-2007, 20:45
especially since 1) I have no idea who you are and 2) you've never interacted with my nation at all, or vice versa. Oh, and 3) I've yet to see any samples of your roleplaying to know whether it's up to par with that of everyone else who's joined so far.
The Warmaster
15-01-2007, 16:10
Summary: Czardas is taking some hits at home for supporting a war against Doomingsland. The Catholic-majority area of Dorandor secedes to form Dorium, and Kari Alhoun is forced to announce martial law in Czardas. The citizens, used to doing pretty much whatever they want, did not like this and began rioting; Alhoun has to tell the guards to subdue the crowd and a firefight begins. From there Czardas explodes into civil war; Loyalists want the old government, the Meritocracy wants a meritocracy, Dorium wants independence and probably a chunk of Czardas, too, and the Socialists want the economy reformed and more welfare thrown in. Meanwhile, friends of Czardas like Yafor 2 and Velkya are getting involved, and the Imperium, which hates Czardas too much to even consider letting this chance pass by, is preparing to invade Czardas again.

Hope I got all the main points. I tried to make it short and read-able.
Czardas
15-01-2007, 22:22
yeah, I think that about covers it.

As a further summary, although the posts haven't been made yet because Doom, TSS et al. are far too busy n00bstomping EVIL or some such co-ordinated project, most of the future APOC members are going to get involved in this as well, because it ends up basically causing APOC. (A conference named after the capital ship on which it is held amongst the various non-Czardas powers leads to the agreement that civilisation has to be protected against such destructive wars emerging in what might have been productive states -- in other words, against anarchy and chaos. Thus, the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation, designed to preserve it against forces threatening to degenerate it into chaos. I believe that was the general plan, someone else can correct me if it's not.)
Doomingsland
15-01-2007, 22:24
Erherm, for the record I AM making my massive entry post as I type this.

2200 words and going strong...I dunno if it'll be done today, though, it'll take alot for me to be satisfied with this thing...
The Silver Sky
15-01-2007, 22:28
Hey, I started my post, but then I got hit broadside with a bad case of hypergina(sp?) basically the flu(not stomach flu thankfully) except you get some really bad cankersores in your mouth and throat, doctor said 2-3 more days until I'm better(got sick the 11th), but then I'll have to catch up with school.

Hopefully I won't have to drop out.
The Gupta Dynasty
15-01-2007, 22:30
What TSS says is true - I can vouch for that. I have a copy of a part of his post, so I know. I have been posting, however, so don't blame me for anything.
Czardas
15-01-2007, 22:38
What TSS says is true - I can vouch for that. I have a copy of a part of his post, so I know. I have been posting, however, so don't blame me for anything.

Ok, ok! If you insist! :rolleyes:

TSS, that's fine, don't worry about NS then. Seriously, there are more important things.
The Silver Sky
23-01-2007, 00:57
Well, I'm better, starting to work on posty again, should have it done soon, also, czardas, get on IRC, we needs to talks!
Nueve Italia
23-01-2007, 01:40
Czardas, you said something wierd in your last post, something along the lines of my nation wants to help your original democratic gov., but it's "strange because it doesn't have one anymore."

Are you trying to say Nueve Italia isn't democratic anymore (which it is, it has direct representation by vote)? Or that there is no Czardaian democratic gov. to get in contact with?

Sorry for the confusion.
Czardas
23-01-2007, 15:58
Well, I'm better, starting to work on posty again, should have it done soon, also, czardas, get on IRC, we needs to talks!
I will if I get a chance. I've got a 20-page research paper to finish this week, and I haven't started it yet, so my time is a bit scarce.
Are you trying to say Nueve Italia isn't democratic anymore (which it is, it has direct representation by vote)? Or that there is no Czardaian democratic gov. to get in contact with?

Sorry for the confusion.
The latter. The Czardaian government has fallen apart, although if you have intel agents on the ground in Mjenaz you'll hear about Joshua i-Latinu's takeage of control; otherwise, it's mostly silent. Your message won't reach anyone because you've probably sent it to Congress Hall, which was burnt to the ground and the rubble sold for weapons, so it understandably hasn't received it. If you sent it somewhere else, that wasn't clear.
Nueve Italia
25-01-2007, 15:32
Alrighty then, and yes, my post was to try and contact whatever government remained, so it would have been sent to Congress Hall. Won't get next post up for some time, lotta work to do.
The Warmaster
26-01-2007, 04:22
TSS, you're right about the spelling, it's Kregaia.
The Silver Sky
26-01-2007, 04:26
TSS, you're right about the spelling, it's Kregaia.

w00t! And what would be the pre-title?
The Warmaster
27-01-2007, 02:40
You mean the full name, right? Imperium of Kregaia, or Kregaian Imperium. The whole 'the Warmaster' thing was the side-effect of being unable to think of a name while running out of time to borrow the laptop, so later I worked it into my nation's history. But foreigners would never use that term. Kregaian Imperium is probably best, to avoid confusion with the Imperium Doomanum.
Czardas
27-01-2007, 18:07
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6049/czardas3pa6.jpg
^ Map displaying all of the different factions and locations of cities and stuff.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4890/czardas4kr2.jpg
^ More detailed map
The Warmaster
29-01-2007, 03:53
Numbers for the Crusade force

GROUND FORCES
Commander: High Lord Rahvin Ares

3,120,000 Legionaries
40,000 Immortals
8,400 War-Priests
1,400 light guns (105mm)
950 medium guns (155mm)
600 heavy guns (188mm)
1,200 AA batteries (155mm flak)
820 SAM platforms
24,000 M146 Despoiler MBTs
28,000 Sidewinder LAVs
4,800 AH-166 Twilight gunships
16,000 Lawgiver helicopter transports
8,200 F/A-104 Balefires
2,200 A-10 Thunderbolts
800 Behemoth heavy bombers
24 B-6 Paladin stealth bombers
48 Thunderbird AWACS planes
720 C-7 Generia transport planes
Plus associated logistics and support personnel/equipment (construction materials, demolitions experts, transport trucks, engineers, personal servants, operators, etc.)

NAVAL FORCES
Commander: High Admiral Ludo Anor

8 Apophis-class superdreadnaughts
54 Imperator-class battleships
9 supercarriers (245 aircraft total: 216 Balefires, 24 attack helicopters, 5 stealth helicopters)
48 Prophet-class aircraft carriers (160 aircraft each: 144 Balefires, 16 attack helicopters)
517 Silencer-class missile submarines
489 Stalker-class attack submarines
495 Attila-class cruisers
564 Assassin-class missile cruisers
616 Darius-class destroyers
665 Piranha-class frigates
5,600 Atlantis-class troop transports
75 Vulcan-class repair ships
80 Caduceus-class hospital ships
2,300 Arsenal-class cargo ships

Total: 11,520 ships; 2,459 surface warships, 1,006 submarines, 8,055 support ships

And by the way, nice maps Czardas.
Southeastasia
29-01-2007, 09:50
[OOC: I concur with Kregaia: nice map indeed, Czardas.

Oh, and can you please add the Union of Southeast Asian Nations to the faction list as a neutral nation just trying to get it's diplomats out? Thanks!

And just before you ask, why I haven't posted yet in the IC thread is because of damned RL reasons for posting involving coursework for school....urgh!]
The Silver Sky
29-01-2007, 22:33
Oh poo, I was about to post my maps of what WBI 'controls'.

Here is what I was thinking.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/WBIholdings.png
[Black is extent of 'patrols', light blue is supply roads/highways, gold is key positions/routes, purple blue is corps boundries.]

But seeing the new map I'll have to edit it to this. Especially since you moved Ardaja, Sameri, and Aneida. :P

EDIT: This map here (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/WBIControl.png) is what I came up with, key is the same.
The Warmaster
07-02-2007, 02:23
Uhh...bump to remind everyone? I hope this isn't going to fade out, this has a lot of promise.