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So I've seen all the WWII RP threads going around, and I was wondering, what if we tried our own, but with our NS countries? I think it'd be interesting to have a big war starting in 1940, so we could see how we RP using WWII technology. Anybody interested?

Here are some guidelines:
-Use your current population. For simplicity's sake.

-I know it's 1940, but we use uberly advanced technology in MT. So you can start with more advanced stuff, like the StG-44, M14, Me-262, etc. (but try not to wank it.)

-Try to keep the same tactics you use now. For example, if you like using cheap swarms, use Zeros instead of Corsairs. If you like quality rather than quantity, go for small numbers of jets.

-Factbooks are highly recommended.

-No nukes.

Anybody interested?

Alliances:

Union of Sovereign Imperial Nations (USIN): Ezaltia, The Appalacians, Franberry, Voxio

Independent States Allied Forces (ISAF): Nor nuin Giliath, Dukarbana

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kinda interested, sounds like a good idea, I may even join in. Hope this idea goes far.

I would be interested.

If you need help with anything about this idea, I can assist if you wish.


I'm a bump, I'm a bump, the bump is back!

I'm just trying to get peopl interested at the moment.

I'm interested too, but unfortunately I am an RP newbie. Sounds like a nice place to start though :P

Oh you are counting me in on this one in a big way. Provided it gets started soon though!

Also, just to be picky, do we have to use the actual weapons of the time, I dunno, it'd just be weird having everyone armed with Stg44's and the like - know what I mean?

Well, I guess you could invent your own WWII-era stuff to use. JUst revew it with me before we start.

tag for interest. Sounds like a good idea, I did an rp like this once, it seems like we need someone to make a map though.

I've always wanted to throw around Gloster Gladiators like crazy

I am quite interested, a map would be a good idea

Also, we should base off our nations of 1 RL nation (USA, UK, USSR, ect.) from the WWII-era, as to be balanced. Otherwise, we'll have people picking the best equipment from a multitude of different nations.

For example, I would like to use UK equipment, means I get ships, planes and all the otherstuff that was used by the UK in the war, but I dont get to use other nation's equipment, like Italy or something. Although all the nations that want to base themselfs of the UK can, so we could have 10 nations using German equipment, and 1 using Japanese.

That sounds good Franberry, I'd like to use German arms if that's all right with everyone else. The last time I did this, people used whatever they wanted but most chose to use all arms from one nation, it was easier that way.

I think inventing our own weapons will lead to wankyness

I think we should just stick with stuff that was used during WWII

Well, if we base ourselves off one country, then that just makes it too like a RL WWII RP. I vote for mix-and-match.

Well, if we base ourselves off one country, then that just makes it too like a RL WWII RP. I vote for mix-and-match.
Mix-and-match will lead to everyone using the very best from each country, which will lead to massive logistics problems, which I have no problem with, as long as people RP them.

Going for a mix-and-match can be done, but picking one set of RL equipment can be simpler.

Well, there's always the quality/quantity issue. If you go for the very best of each country, then you can't build very much of it. if you go for cheap stuff, then you could swarm the enemy with your sheer numbers.

Yes, Im more worried about the logistical aspect.

If I RP with all UK equipment, as I stated before, I will have a fairly easy time of logistical issues. If I RP with equipment from 5 different countries, I will have an incredibly hard and frustrating time with them, as I would need multiple different types of bullets, shells, replacement parts, ect...

All right, this makes it easier for me because I already have my factbook from last time, I just have to make some slight modifications. When do you guys want it up?

I would like to take part in this. I have a large nation, so to make things fair I will mainly limit myself to equipment from the weaker axis nations [Japan and Italy]. I personally think this would be a good thing for the other large nations...to allow the smaller nations to be just as important as the bigger ones.

Can we rename the equipment we choose?

Will alliances be determined ahead of time?

We should make some sort of factbook or something

Appalacians, post what you have

Yeah, we should probably determine the alliances beforehand. I think I'll go for a mix of German and British equipment.

This will be fun.

Instead of Allies and Axis, why not Empire and Republic?

Im going to go for equipment the UK used

I think that if you are using more than one type of equipment, should accpet the logistical complications

I agree with Fran, I think you should have to devote more of your forces to logistics and supply if you use combined aarms because of the logistic problems. Also: will post ASAP with factbook information.

One more thing, I am a bit of a middle ground between empire and republic and have named myself an Imperial Republic. How would I stand?

Here is my factbook, all it has for now is my equipment. Troop numbers are to follow:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12172926#post12172926

I'm writing up my factbook now. In 1940, Ezaltia was a monarchy, with several overseas colonies. I guess I would be on the Empire side.

I'm a bit interested, and would probably use German equipment as my nation is German speaking.

Not sure about appalacian history in 1940's, but I know that I am a representative democracy where the public directly elects a president who rules absolutely for seven years. The only law the president is prohibited to change is the laws governing elections. These laws can only be changed by direct vote of the people of the Appalacians. Also the Appalacians has been around since at least the 1100s AD with a long military tradition. I'm really up in the air about which side I'd be on because although I am a democracy, I'm extremely imperialistic.

Factbook's up.

Sounds good, count me in.

EDIT: By the way, are war all the military stuffs limited to 1940 or we can use the post-1940 stuffs (like Tiger tank and Corsair fighter)?

Its equipment that exsisted during WWII (and before if you want) that you can use

and Appalacians, I think putting the stats for RL equipment is rather redundant, as they're not fictional creations, and we can find otu their stats with a quick google or wiki search.

And now, to my factbook!

And as to my side, Im trying to figure that out

EDIT: I think we shoudl number how many tanks and stuff we have, as to not god-mod. And I though IS-3 was not developed during WWII, but rather the IS-2

You can also use some post-war stuff, like the M14 (cuz it's really just a version of the Garand.)

I'll post numbers and such later.

ah okay, I have some updating to do

Sounds more like the War of 1960.

If you're doing 40's, use 40's kit. I would prefer a pic'nmix of equipment, though of course with renamed stuff to suit your nation.

I made an 'Earth' back in the mists of time, the idea of which was very popular until it fell on its face. I named it Earth 1938 (E38), and encouraged participants to make their own equipment and vehicles. It ended up, of course, being more like 1945 equipment, but there you go.

I believe that the idea of Fair Play might regulate tech in this one, but if we can allow the use of customised equipment, then I'd be in.

Personally, I think that 1935 tech is a little more funky.

nah, Its more like the war of 1945-1949

so far, the most advanced thing has been an IS-3

It wasn't hard to get all that information and I already had it on file from last time, so I just put it all down there.

Also, I'm gonna change my Panzer III to a Panther I in light of recent developments. i.e.: changing this to include post-WWII tech.

One more thing, should we have a nuclear arms race, because personally I think that would take all the fun out of this rp if someone had nukes.

Factbooks up, not completed though.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12175015#post12175015

Factbook, pic'nmix tech.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12175259

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So I've seen all the WWII RP threads going around, and I was wondering, what if we tried our own, but with our NS countries? I think it'd be interesting to have a big war starting in 1940, so we could see how we RP using WWII technology. Anybody interested?

Here are some guidelines:
-Use your current population. For simplicity's sake.

-I know it's 1940, but we use uberly advanced technology in MT. So you can start with more advanced stuff, like the StG-44, M14, Me-262, etc. (but try not to wank it.)

-Try to keep the same tactics you use now. For example, if you like using cheap swarms, use Zeros instead of Corsairs. If you like quality rather than quantity, go for small numbers of jets.

-Factbooks are highly recommended.

Anybody interested?
So, will Nukes be restricted? Seems kinda foolish to allow them.

Personally, no nukes makes for better wars.

Nukes tend to ruin RPs, so lets keep them out

So, when are we starting this thing?

We need a map. I recommend the Wikipedia blank world map, saved in .png, for ease of editing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/BlankMap-World.png

Some people have been wondering about nukes. NO NUKES. Done.

I'll add that to the first page, as well as teams. The choices are:

USIN (Union of Sovereign Imperial Nations)

ISAF (Indepedent States Allied Forces) (yes, I'm an Ace Combat fan)

In you next posts, simply state which side you are on. Try to keep it balanced.

ISAF. Personal freedom all the way.

USIN. The Empire will be furthered by Blood and Iron!

Usin!

I guess as a Fascist nation I will have to choose the side of the Imperial forces. Though I can fit into the other group, so I'll see how balanced the sides are and then make my decision.

Here's a map of what I would like to control on the world map if we use it.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/zekk55/Weapons/noborders.png

I wouldn't mind doing the maps. I like to make my own map anyways.

ISAF for me.

I'll add you both. If the USIN side gets too crowded, I can always switch.

Let's use that world map, if you don't mind updating it. I'll take Japan.

I'll add you both. If the USIN side gets too crowded, I can always switch.

Let's use that world map, if you don't mind updating it. I'll take Japan.

What color would you like to use for your nation? Also, doesn't that seem like a small plot of land for 457 million people?

Also, will our resources and terrain be the equivalent to what the land we have would be in real life?

Cancel previous order. I'm gonna have to cut out of this rp, as the prospect of Earth 1936 is too enticing. I don't want to advertise, but just so you know, I'll be starting a new Pre-WWII rp soon and it will take up my available time.

'pologies.

No sweat. If you feel like coming back, don't be shy.

Hmm..you're right, Voxio. I'll be Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands instead. Also, I don't think the terrain and resources should be the same. You can alter them how you like.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, purple for me.

I shall be dark blue, and take Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay and South Africa

If its too wanky, feel free to take South Africa out

No sweat. If you feel like coming back, don't be shy.

Hmm..you're right, Voxio. I'll be Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands instead. Also, I don't think the terrain and resources should be the same. You can alter them how you like.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, purple for me.

Okay, got you guys.

I'm going to keep my recourses and land the same. In fact most cities will remain the same except for names. Makes it more realistic that way.

I have 2 billion+ so I'll take Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon and Israel. If you don't mind

I'd like to take North Africa, i.e.: Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia, and Egypt. If this is a problem, feel free to tell me. My color will probably be dark green.

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Damn, been asleep for a few days, hope theres still leg room if you don't mind

ISAF if possible and I'll get a factbook ready.

A good old bump is in order.


Oh btw, heres my factbook. I might change a few things and add troop numbers , but that is just the basic military stats.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513766

All right, I'll add you.

Don't you think that arming your MG men with both a machine gun and rifle would be a little....excessive? I would suggest a pistol, or at the very most, a submachine gun.

Of course, this comes from the guy who arms his officers with two .45s...

Eh, I figured that the Gewehr 43 wouldn't be much of a hinderance. But I'll change it to a SMG to avoid debates.

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513353)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artillery

This may help in your artillery section.

Kewl. I'll check that out tomorrow.

uh... bump.

Ezaltia. I noticed you had the M-14 on your list of armaments. The M-14 was designed in 1954 and not put into service until 1957. I got this on wiki. I thought this went until 1949. If ou use the M-14 you will have an advantage over all of us and the rest of us will begin to use the AK-47 and everything will no longer be 1940s. Not cool.

Yeah. If anyone wants to play a 1935-era rp with tech that actually fits the time, go here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513670).

Sorry to give myself a plug, but you look like you could use a good time.

Ezaltia, the M-14 is pretty godmode. I'm going to the E35 thread.

hmm..you may be right. think the StG-44 would be better?

Well it was made in 1942, so yeah that would be a WW2 tech weapon.

bump. Think we should start this soon?

Just wondering, have I been apporoved?

yeah, sure, what side are you on?

Make a factbook.