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The VH-3 began to climb as it traveled NE. The Lower Galilee's hills marked the end of the lower Jezreel Valley. The helo flew over Afula as it then climbed the mountain over Nazareth. The helo then began to descend until it reached Tveria. The helo landed at a pad about 100 m from Lake Kinneret, known in the rest of the world as the Sea of Galilee. To the west of the chopper stood the mountain on which the city of Tveria (Tiberias) was built upon.

As the rotors stopped, a marine went over and opened the door and out stepped Israeli Prime Miniters Binyamin Netanyahu. He looked across the Kinneret, but a morning haze limited his view into the Golan Heights. He was then escorted by his security guards into the conference center.

Netanyahu was met by 15 other government officials. The officials represented members of the the Likud, Kadima, Labor, Shas, and Yisrael Beytenu parties. The 5 parties represented varying interests from leftists to consertive and from religious to secular.

"Gentlemen," began the 60 year old PM. "I have come to speak to you about a new alliance I will be presenting to the world. For milenia, our people have been victimized by every group imaginable. The establishment of the State of Israel has improved the situation, but Jews elsewhere are still in danger. It is also worth noting that even in Medinat Yisrael we are threatened by those who surround us.

"There are few friends in the world whom Jews can turn to. It was with that in mind that we presented our new Doctrine last month. In order to further back up our new foreign policy, I am going to be establishing a new alliance. This alliance shall be known as the Jewish Justice League. It will be a collection of nations and organizations that are dedicated to protect Jews wherever they shall dwell. Even if it means preemptive action.

"I am going to ask that all of the major parties assembled here today give their support to this alliance. It will require bipartisan support within Israel to get international credibility. It is my plan to construct a headquarters for this alliance in this holy city in which we are meeting today. Right along the shores of the beautiful lake outside this very building."

Netanyahu concluded his speech. The representatives from the 5 major parties argued for hours, but in the end a consensus was reached.

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Message to the World

On this day, the 9th of Tevet 5767, HaMedinat HaYisrael has established the Jewish Justice League (JJL). This alliance is for those who wish to work towards the protection of the Jewish people as both a religion and cultural group.

The JJL will exist to both protect the Jews and act as a multinational arm to support the implementation of the Netanyahu Doctrine where applicable.

We request that nations interested in joining this group send a representative to Tveria along the beautiful shores of Lake Kinneret in the Lower Galilee region of Yisrael.

Binyamin Netanyahu

The Empire and Commonwealth, with its 250 million Questarian Jewish population, is interested in a Jewish Justice League. We would like to send Sir Wesley Fardale to this conference you are holding.

The People's Socialist Republic of Russkya is concerned at the rise of organizations dedicated to the pursuit of the highly interventionist and threatening Netanyahu Doctrine. Not having recieved or heard mention of a reply to our missive pertaining the Netanyahu Doctrine made nearly a month ago, it has been found prudent to remind you of that missive. A carbon copy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12091610&postcount=3) has been enclosed for your reference.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

OOC:
- Netanyahu Doctrine Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510691).

OOC: Sorry for the delay. I just spent the last couple of weeks traveling in Israel and was away from a computer. I'm now back home in Chi town though

IC:

You have interpreted our policy correctly. Our intent is to take preemptive and interventionalist actions when we feel that Jews are being threatened by a government that is hostile to the people whom we have taken the obligation to protect.

The JJL is being established to allow for multinational support for any actions that might have to be taken to protect Jews who are endangered by hostile states.

Shimon Peres
Foreign Minister

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Statement of the Government of the Britannic Commonwealth

The Britannic Commonwealth shall support IDF's enforcement of the Netanyahu Doctrine, as well as the actions taken by this Jewish Justice League.

OOC: Acknowledged.

While noble in intent, the Netanyahu Doctrine is a standing threat to all nations and could be used as the reasonable justification for preemptive, to include chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear strikes on the Israeli Homeland or other territories to preempt any threat posed by IDF or JJL forces.

Your basis for use of force is determined by the domestic policy of a nation; while Russkya does not support genocide, she does not support militant interventionism either. Your threat for the use of preemptive force means that a skewed reason for military attacks on any nation at any time is a distinct possibility, the likely justification being that the nation in question was planning operations against the Jewish segment of their population.

Therefore it has been strongly recommended to me by both the Politburo and the Parliment that I make note of Russkya's desire to change the Netanyahu Doctrine to remove the preemptive strike clause. Without this clause the Netanyahu Doctrine loses no effectiveness, and will prevent the Russkyan Internal Security Service from branding every Russkyan Jew a potential subversive or even terrorist. As mentioned before, the best possible resolution for the small Jewish contingent inside Russkya after such action, would be mere deportation.

Also, with removal of the "Preemptive Clause," the Netanyahu Doctrine no longer remains an active threat to the soverignity of every nation. It remains interventionist and unworthy of Russkyan support for that reason, but removes the possibility of sudden, unwarranted attacks by nations subscribing to such a disturbingly aggressive doctrine.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

OOC: Acknowledged.

While noble in intent, the Netanyahu Doctrine is a standing threat to all nations and could be used as the reasonable justification for preemptive, to include chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear strikes on the Israeli Homeland or other territories to preempt any threat posed by IDF or JJL forces.

Your basis for use of force is determined by the domestic policy of a nation; while Russkya does not support genocide, she does not support militant interventionism either. Your threat for the use of preemptive force means that a skewed reason for military attacks on any nation at any time is a distinct possibility, the likely justification being that the nation in question was planning operations against the Jewish segment of their population.

Therefore it has been strongly recommended to me by both the Politburo and the Parliment that I make note of Russkya's desire to change the Netanyahu Doctrine to remove the preemptive strike clause. Without this clause the Netanyahu Doctrine loses no effectiveness, and will prevent the Russkyan Internal Security Service from branding every Russkyan Jew a potential subversive or even terrorist. As mentioned before, the best possible resolution for the small Jewish contingent inside Russkya after such action, would be mere deportation.

Also, with removal of the "Preemptive Clause," the Netanyahu Doctrine no longer remains an active threat to the soverignity of every nation. It remains interventionist and unworthy of Russkyan support for that reason, but removes the possibility of sudden, unwarranted attacks by nations subscribing to such a disturbingly aggressive doctrine.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

It is only with the threat of preemptive action by this alliance and the mighty IDF that Medinat Yisrael has the ability to put teeth into this doctrine. The next time a nation instigates pogroms against the Jews, we will take military action against them and make them regret it.

Perhaps if the world had had our policy years ago, there would be 6,000,000 more of our people on this earth.

Shimon Peres
Foreign Minister

I must respectfully and strongly disagree. Removal of the preemptive clause does not remove the 'teeth' of the Netanyahu Doctrine, as it does not prevent military action to be taken against nations carrying out pogroms against the Jewish people. Rather, it prevents military actions taken against nations who are suspected of activity against the Jewish people.

Mister Peres, it is at this point that I have been instructed to notify you that unrelenting aggressiveness by what has been dubbed by many to be Zionists results in greater anti-semetic sentiment amongst many populations, Russkya being no exception to this. In addition, what of historic pogroms? Would IDF's attention be fixated on the Ukraine or Southern Russia for their erratic pogroms against the Jewish people from 1200-1800, as an example? Such action places undue attention on the nation of Germany, as yet another example, with the current government being most unlikely to commit such atrocities again.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

I must respectfully and strongly disagree. Removal of the preemptive clause does not remove the 'teeth' of the Netanyahu Doctrine, as it does not prevent military action to be taken against nations carrying out pogroms against the Jewish people. Rather, it prevents military actions taken against nations who are suspected of activity against the Jewish people.

Mister Peres, it is at this point that I have been instructed to notify you that unrelenting aggressiveness by what has been dubbed by many to be Zionists results in greater anti-semetic sentiment amongst many populations, Russkya being no exception to this. In addition, what of historic pogroms? Would IDF's attention be fixated on the Ukraine or Southern Russia for their erratic pogroms against the Jewish people from 1200-1800, as an example? Such action places undue attention on the nation of Germany, as yet another example, with the current government being most unlikely to commit such atrocities again.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

The true teeth of the Netanyahu Doctrine is the mighty Israeli Defense Force. Without the threat of force from our military, we are going to be as useless as the United Nations once was.

Events that have occured before the adoption of the Netanyahu Doctrine are not to be acted upon. It would be wrong to apply this doctrine ex post facto. After all, our own laws don't allow laws to be applied ex post facto.

Now, should a nation do something tomorrow or in an hour from now, then that is something which our government may seek to act on.

Shimon Peres

It is comforting to know that actions post ex facto are not to be acted upon, as Russkya's ethnic makeup is primarily that of Southern Slav and Ukrainian peoples; the tendancy to enact pogroms against the Jewish people as anti-semitic sentiment rises and ebbs with the flow of time did unfortunately carry over, though such pogroms have not occurred in well over two hundred years.

Unfortunately it would appear that you have misunderstood the intent of the People's Socialist Republic. The only thing we ask is for the removal of the Preemptive Clause, this does not remove your so called right to engage in military action against soverign nations for their domestic policies.

While the Netanyahu Doctrine remains an interventionist piece of legislature, the removal of the Preemptive Clause would remove its current status as a standing threat to the national security of Russkya and all other nations.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

WTF?!?! Piss off zionist fuckhead

It is comforting to know that actions post ex facto are not to be acted upon, as Russkya's ethnic makeup is primarily that of Southern Slav and Ukrainian peoples; the tendancy to enact pogroms against the Jewish people as anti-semitic sentiment rises and ebbs with the flow of time did unfortunately carry over, though such pogroms have not occurred in well over two hundred years.

Unfortunately it would appear that you have misunderstood the intent of the People's Socialist Republic. The only thing we ask is for the removal of the Preemptive Clause, this does not remove your so called right to engage in military action against soverign nations for their domestic policies.

While the Netanyahu Doctrine remains an interventionist piece of legislature, the removal of the Preemptive Clause would remove its current status as a standing threat to the national security of Russkya and all other nations.

Regards,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

We might have a simple misunderstanding here. We will not take preemptive actions because a nation might enact anti-semitic laws. We only act once there has actually been an attack against the Jews.

This is still preemptive action in our books as Israel itself wouldn't have been attacked by this point.

Shimon Peres

WTF?!?! Piss off zionist fuckhead

I hope your nation is aware that if any actions are taken against Jews in your nation, we will be forced to have you experience some dire consequences.

I'm so scared *rolls eyes* 'omg theyre gonna take my nation away wah wah wah im gonna go kill myself now!'

My nation doesnt have any jews. Also, the israeli defence force is weak and feeble

I'm so scared *rolls eyes* 'omg theyre gonna take my nation away wah wah wah im gonna go kill myself now!'

My nation doesnt have any jews. Also, the israeli defence force is weak and feeble
I might remind your nation that my government has 5.5 billion people to support a massive military that can without a doubt overwhelm your tiny nation. Our military has fought in and won wars against nations that would eat yours for breakfast.

Don't force us to make a demonstration.

Moshe Dayan
IDF Chief of Staff

We do indeed have a simple misunderstanding of terminology used, in that case. The conventional definition of "Preemptive" certainly results in a much more aggressive understanding of the Netanhayu Doctrine.

While it remains a threat to the security of the Russkyan homeland, it is now no worse than any other hyper-interventionist behaviour by well over a minimum of two dozen nations at nearly any given time.

It is pleasant to note the rational discussion between the Israeli State of IDF and the People's Socialist Republic of Russkya. Such reputation will only stand the Israeli State in good standing in later events.

Regards and Well-Wishes,

[Signed]

Viktor Govak, Minister of the Interior & Foreign Affairs,
People's Socialist Republic of Russkya.

OOC: Ikfaldu, don't be a dick. If you're going to be a bigoted assclown, at least do it with a measure of literary skill and competence, and make clear whether or not it is OOC or IC sentiment, for I would not want to be guilty of the ad hominum attack where it is not warranted.

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Official Statement from the Rosian Republic
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Indeed, we support our Israeli friends in this policy. The Republic has no Jews due to the Revolution we had a hundred or so years ago, but they are always welcome to be citizens and we will suport the protection of the Jewish peoples 100%. Our only fear is that it is not used to invade a nation for no reason.

Because that would suck, ya know.

Sergei Ilyanov
President of the Republic
The Island of Rose

(Small post but I'm lazy...)