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Green Technology Conference All Techs Open.

Commonalitarianism
30-12-2006, 05:48
Hello, this is the Ecological Engineering Institute of the Commonalitarianism. We are demonstrating some of of our technology. We are interested in seeing other countries technologies displayed at this conference as well. Please show us your ecological engineering projects or environmental technology.

Green Architecture

Green Energy Skyscraper--
This building is made mainly from recycled materials-- steel and iron. It also uses enzyme bonded concrete which is more stable and durable than regular concrete. It is superinsulated using flax and other natural fibers so it stays cool in summer and warm in winter. The building is designed to uses natural air circulation and passive solar windows to improve heating and cooling. There are small container gardens throughout to improve air quality, as well as wastewater garden system to help purify water throughout the building. The windows are made ofa clear solar biopolymer that is insulated and provides extra energy. There is a wind generator on the roof, as well as solar paneling, the extra energy at peak times is stored through a methane regenerative fuel cell in the basement.

Green Energy Vertical Farm

This is a closed ecosystem farm built inside a green energy skyscraper. It combines aquaculture with hydroponics, mushroom beds, soil beds, small trees, and small grain plots, and small livestock (chickens, pigs, and goats, in a closed system farm.

Bioshelter--
This is a closed energy building designed to contain a closed agricultural system-- It combines aquaculture with hydroponics, mushroom beds, flowers, soil beds, small trees, and small grain plots, and small livestock (chickens, pigs, and goats, in a closed system ecological farm. The building uses passive solar and is the first basis for most other closed biological systems. These were originally built in the early 1970s.

Bioshelter Sewage Treatment--
This is a modified bioshelter designed to take in sewage and process it through a combination of a small artificial wetland system, aquaculture tanks, and some soilbeds, as well as a methane digester. It turns sewage from both animals and humans into fertilizer and biogas.

Bioshelter Desalinization System--
This is a bioshleter hothouse which causes saltwater to condense on the plastic or glass that covers the biodome and runoff into filtered containers. It also collects salt from aquaculture tanks that are part of the system.

Green Energy

Biorefinery-- This is an analog for an oil refinery. Different biological feedstocks -- kelp, corn, wheat, sugar cane, rapeseed, wood chips are fed into it to make biofuels-- ethanol and biodiesel. The leftovers from the distillation process are turned into other products, natural chemicals, animal feed, botanicals, bioplastics, bioplastics and other materials.

Landfill Bioreactor Gasification Plant-- This is a plant designed to turn landfill into plastics and biogas or methanol.

Small scale distributed hydroelectric turbines, these are smaller turbines designed to distributed along a river without damming the river, they are also designed to not catch fish in their blades.

Wind turbines-- These are wind turbines both onshore and offshore.

Wave Turbines-- These are an underwater version of the wind turbine that use ocean currents to drive them.

OTEC-- Ocean Thermal Electric Conversion. We use barges based on the indian model which run pipes into the ocean and generate energy by using the temperature differential between the deep ocean and surface ocean.

Geothermal-- This uses hot rocks and geysers to generate energy.

Solar Power Solutions

Solar windows-- these are clear solar panels designed to be mounted as windows.

Thin film solar cells. These use a spray on nanotech process to make thin film solar cells in sheets. This process is far cheaper than standard solar cells.

Solar Concentrator Dishes-- These are metal mirrors designed to concentrate heat into a liquid container to generate heat and cogenerate steam.

The earlier mentioned Bioshelter Sewage Treatment produces methane and biogas from animal and human waste.

PMT Energy

Solar and Wind Cogeneration facilities for electrolysis of water into hydrogen fuel and oxygen.

Core energy taps-- These are deep drilled taps into the planets crust that use cogeneration to create electricity through heat and steam.

Algae Hydrogen Bioreactor-- This uses a system that forces algae to produce hydrogen instead of oxygen in the photosynthetic process. Algae produce hydrogen instead of oxygen if they are deprived of sulfur.

Sonofusion-- Acoustic Inertial Confinement fusion that can build tabletop size fusion generators.

Phytoremediation and Bioremediation

Artificial Wetlands-- These are artificial wetlands built for water purification.

Wastewater Gardens-- These are gardens designed to be used in commercial buildings to purify water.

Combined bioremediation and phytoremediation cleanup ecology.

This is a specially designed small ecology that can clean up heavily toxic sites including nuclear and chemical attacks. It combines extremophile bacteria and bacteria designed to handle and remove toxic waste with specially selected plants and trees-- ferns, duckweed, hyacinth, small bushes and trees.


Parks

Rooftop garden in a box. This is a modular system for building rooftop gardens.

Community garden and aquaculture fountain. This is a combined community garden and aquaculture fountain.
Biospherics

Biosphere PMT

A closed ecological system designed for long term space habitation. This includes aquaculture, hydroponics, and soil beds. Also a recycling, regenerative life support system is built in.
New Albor
30-12-2006, 06:01
OOC: What the... Conference Thief :)

IC:

Prime Minister Allwyn read the papers and sighed the sigh of an exasperated leader: 'Green Technology Conference?' He shook his head and called in the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Fiona Eversham.

'Fiona, did you see this?'

'Yes, sir. Pity. I hope it does not coincide with our conference. And we've put so much into razing the low-income housing districts in the capital. Plus, all that money we put into FedRail... isn't FedRail a green technology?'

'Yes...', Allwyn muttered. 'Damn... eco-friendly electromagnets, who knew? Anyway, spend more money on advertising and see if you can't find some spin that we can use' He waved to her dismissively and she quickly left the office.
Leafanistan
30-12-2006, 06:05
OOC: Seriously, FIX THE FORMATTING!
Commonalitarianism
30-12-2006, 12:35
Transportation and Engines

Heavy duty hybrid electric and biodiesel engine-- This engine is large enough and strong enough to run most heavy equipment. It can be fitted in trains, boats-- it was recently fitted to a tugboat, heavy construction equipment, and large trucks.

Ethanol propeller plane-- This plane was originally a crop duster in the amazon jungle, a farmer rebuilt the engine to take homemade ethanol, and then commercialized the engine after people began copying his design.

Solar and jet powered airship-- This is a long haul airship that uses a coating of thin film solar cells to run a large portion of the ship. Biojet fuel runs the turbine engines.

Solar light rail-- This is an electric light rail transportation system based on the early trolley cars. It is extremely energy efficient and can be powered by thin film solar cells. The system transports people, for short distances, and includes compartments for bicycles as well.

Biodiesel motorcycles-- These are light motorcycles designed to have very high energy efficiency. They have a lightweight frame and can go 80 miles per gallon.

Solar powered barges-- This is a large solar powered double hulled barge. It has a solar roof running the length of the barge. It is for long haul slow transportation.

Hydrogen powered boats-- These boats convert seawater into hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is used to power the boat. They also have small cogenerative windmills on board which feed into the hydrogen fuel cell. They were introduced because of a need to reduce harbor pollution.

Biojet fuel
In modern tech additives to jet fuel have been created using soy which make the jet fuel burn cleaner. Recent advances in the study of the soy bean additive have created a pure biological jet fuel. It is especially formulated to not gel up at low temperatures.
Commonalitarianism
30-12-2006, 20:12
MBT Recycling Center-- Mechanical Biological Technology, is a combined recycling center which separates organic waste from solid waste. It uses a combination of water, and other sorting methods to separate different types of waste-- metal, plastics, organics, and hazardous material. Our MBT system sends the organic waste to the Bioshelter Sewage Treatment center where it is processed into fertilizer and methane.

Industrial Reclamation Center-- This center is designed to centralize waste from chemical and other plants into a central reprocessing area. Here industrial waste is cataloged by its content and sorted into different types of waste plastics, chemicals, rubber and other waste. The waste is then entered into a database exchange which companies can contact to request chemical residues so they can be reused.
Commonalitarianism
30-12-2006, 21:06
PMT Arcology

An arcology is a megastructure that combines ecology with architecture. Currently the two forms of megastructure which the Commonalitarianism uses are the pyramid arcology and the domed arcology. The closest equivalent fo the domed arcology is Buckminster Fullers Old Man River design. These massive cities are designed to build structures upward in space so more open land can be used around them. An arcology uses ecological techniques to minimize costs and make cities livable for human beings. For example passive solar, open spaces, tree lined barriers for cooling, bioshelter greenhouses, and extensive public transportation networks are built into the cities, because the footprint is based on moving upward, not sprawl, much of the dense city can be reached using moving walkways, light electric transport, train traffic, and elevator shafts. To maintain livability, there is a tremendous amount of greenery both in the form of greenouses and open public spaces. The cities design is such that the materials used in the city provide excellent insulation and natural air circulation throughout the city. Because of the size of the city, massive solar and wind installations can easily be built on the skin of the dome or pyramid, some of which is clear solar panelling, also because the city recycles all waste through a system of bioshelter sewage remediation, and has biorefineries built into it, there is a large supply of biogas as well as ethanol and other biomass stocks. Light manufacturing is built into the city as well. These are further backed by hydrogen extracted from algae and sonofusion power plants. Everything is recycled through a system of stations or public grinders.

FT Arcology

This is the natural extension of the PMT arcology. It is a huge city in space, deep under the earth, in an asteroid colony, or almost anywhere. It is based on creating a closed loop ecology on a large scale inside an ecological urban infrastructure. The city essentially grows its own air, food, water, and environment in a closed loop that can last for a huge amount of time wihout outside input.

FT Arcology Becoming Paraterraforming.

The idea of paraterraforming is that one can build a sealed environment around a planetoid. In the Commonalitarianism, this is done by building several arcologies on a planetoid or asteroid, then linking the open space between them with massive artificial biosphere parks. This creates wide wilderness type spaces between the different arcologies. These are compartmentalized and have different environments or biospheres from different worlds that the Commonalitarianism has visisted to collect life forms from.
Commonalitarianism
31-12-2006, 03:58
Sustainable Design

Most large industrial products are designed so that they can be disassembled for recycling and made out of recyclable materials like steel, iron, aluminum, wood, bamboo, natural fibers, and other materials.

Green chemistry has been used to redesign common household products so they are environmentally safe, as well as replace most industrial chemicals with analogs, soy ink, soy paintstrippers, bioplastics, biopolymers, corn based enzymes.

More advanced materials are being designed using biomemetics-- using nature as a model to design new materials. Some of the new materials are enzyme bonded concrete, bioplastics, abalone based ceramics, spidersilk, ironwood, new enamels based on tooth enamel, and similar materials.
Commonalitarianism
31-12-2006, 04:23
The Commonalitarianism is an active producer of seed banks. They have seeds, bacterial culturals, and sperm and dna samples from most creatures on the earth. They actively seek to acquire new botanicals from emerging nations.

FT

The Commonalitarianism actively bioprospects other worlds for new sources of biologicals. They attempt to build seed banks, bacterial cultures, genetic samples, and sperm and ova samples from other planets. So far they have collected genetic samples from Ganoxa, Earth, Paradise, Muse, and are currently working on collecting samples from Xixi. This allows them to have a unique base with a much greater variety of samples to study biomemetics, new materials, and ecological systems from other worlds. They have recreated the ecosystem in a biosphere of Ganoxa.
Commonalitarianism
03-01-2007, 00:00
An asteroid is hollowed out. Inside multiple deuterium sonofusion plants are built,along with habitats, labs, manufacturing facliites, a small space port, and various industrial facilities. On the outside several arcologies are built as tall spires. These spires are then connected together with an outer shell of a heavy solar energy absorbing material. Underneath the outer shells, different ecosystems are built in a hexagonal pattern covering the outer skin of the asteroid. A massive toroidal ring-- a heim engine is built around the asteroid along it to enter and exit hyperspace, along with fusion engines when it is in normal space. This would be a worldhouse asteroid and a ship at the same time. It would travel to different worlds doing bioprospecting, trading technologies, and forming a map of new ecologies as it traveled to different worlds creating a "lifeship" and trading ship.
Commonalitarianism
04-01-2007, 12:46
These are a few philosophies which we have partially included in our country.

Natural Capitalism-- A neoclassical economic system based on building a service based economy focused on improved craftsmanship, energy conservation, lean manufacturing, and biomimicry of natural ecological systems.

Environmental Stewardship-- This is the idea of long term management of resources focused on the philosophy of preserving natural resources because people are part of the natural system and it is their duty to protect and preserve the natural world both from a moral and religious viewpoint. Central to this is the idea that if natural resources are not put into long term practical use people will destroy them. Some of the focuses would be in forestry-- agroforestry and ethnobotany, ecotourism, fishery and game management, and creating natural preserves. In farming this would include soil preservation, biodynamic farming, and genetic seed banks.

GPI-- Genuine Progress Index, a new set of economic, social, and environmental statistics which shows how a country is doing. This replaces the GDP-- Gross Domestic Progress because GDP includes many negative incentives built into it, overconsumption, excessive waste generation, criminal activities which are economic in nature-- gambling, prostitution, etc. and is a total picture not truly representing the living standards of a nation.


OOC: This is a thought experiment on the elements necessary to build a powerhouse green economy that matches modern society's production capabilities in many ways, but offers a cleaner, safer, quieter, more green environment.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
04-01-2007, 14:25
ICCD uses a handful of similiar technologies to those involved. It also has some improvements to some of the systems involved. A handful of those technologies have already been developed and are being tested, or have already been tested but have very little implementation.

To give an overview of some of ICCD's cheif green technologies, we can look at it historically.

ICCD can trace it's history back to upland tribes that perfected hillside terrace farming and development of water pools and aqua culture, and underground growth such as fungi and roots. When moving into the lowlands they continued their upland mining on lowlands, and continued their terracing with stepped pyramids that eventually evolved into the large Zigauraut pyramids of the modern era. The terraced systems apply a similar concept to the skyscrappers but using natural stone and in the modern era, 'artificial stone'.

ICCD's priemer green technology is it's magmatech facilities of which there are a number of varieties. These systems were designed using technologies available today in the modern era, such as thermal resistant tubing, pumps, centrefuges, and deep mining, and take it futher to have 0 emissions underground foundries and specific tooled factories all in the same center to provide the highest level of energy efficiency available. The MagmaTech products use geothermal heat from magma, to produce energy and assist processes such as electrolysis for seperation/compression, petroleum cracking and desalination and water purification. On top of this it can be used to melt non biodegradable environmetal waste, in a high technology 0 emissions atomic mass sifting mega - environment. Although, these systems can be expensive the production of magma by products of manufactured stone, reclaimed earth elements including valuable gems and metals from the earths core, and the value added desalination and natural heat diffused petrol cracking, as well as bulk oxygen and hydrogen production can signifigantly foster a potive return over the longterm run of the facility. Piezo electric technologies are also used with the expansion and retraction of systems as well as a number of other long term cost saving, wealth producing systems. There are a number of models ranging from a basic lavatech facility, the generation 1 model to the more advanced total package magmatech facilities. Safety precausions have been taken, depending on the model specific locations are ideal. These facilities can even be put underwater, or assembled on large submarines depending on size of the model.


ICCD implements some technology on it's large subs, it is essentially a ballast system that sucks up water and seafloor life, fish or anything else, the product is then sifted inside the vehicle, in a plant. Organic material can be classed as consumable or non consumable, living, non living etc.. and used appropriately. There is a fishery facility to handle fish, as well as aquatic storage of sealife (aquarium). Dead or unneeded organic mater goes into a fast digester for production of methane and biowaste, which can be used for onboard greenhouses, or but back into the ocean, where it can assist seafloor replenishment, or transported to land for use in farming or otherwise.
These systems are used on ships that can fire the methane for heat and pressure for energy and thermoelectric or piston driving power or directional heat. The methane itself can be recycled.

0 emissions life cylce products are by far "the" #1 green technology ongoing for an industrialized environmental movement. These systems allow mass production even with dangerous substances without polluting neighbouring environments or threatening foodchains or general health and increasing risk of maladies such as cancer via toxins and carcenogens put into the air and water. These models insure that NO production byproduct goes into the air or water. Instead it is stored and later transported or handled on site at chemical banks, these banks can either process the industrial watse or trade waste when it is usable in another industrial process, minimizing reliance on creating new dangerous substances. Although this may appear cost prohibitive, use of underground waste pipelines has developed in major industrial areas. These piplelines speed up waste transfer and also expand the usable infrastructure using infrastructure models that are multihomed and applicable to all mater using proper cleaning technologies.. so that pipelines are usuable and sharable with multiple industries. ICCD has harsh envirionmental protection laws, but still strives to be a great industrial power, and able to produce high waste technologies such as computer hardware technologies.

An geographic area dependant technology is a modifaction of the plated lense desalination process, which expands the delasination via solar ray EM radiation and extends it to use the steam produced in a larger model. The photoelectric effect is used on the surface lensing the steam created from the heat is used to produce kinetic force for pistons generation the steam itself is fused for industrial use where heat is required finally the energy produced from the turbine energy is applied on an as needed basic to produce hydrogen and oxygen. The desalination itself occurs but the salts can also be cracked to produce chlorine or sodium as required. This 4 main element steam cracking system also employed in the magmatec systems can also be done with the solar lensing system. Very much using technology that exists today, for many this may be cost prohibitive or geostratically not posible due to lacking the proper environmental conditions, but for those who have hotbeds of solar activity near the water these technologies can be tremendiously cost effective for desalination, production of raw chemicals or combined industrial process.


ICCD has many other green technologies ranging from hemp clothing, banana paper, natural pharmacueticals, using models of reuse and biodegrability. The consumer model is positioned to 0 waste, meaning no landfills. High dependance on public subway/underground transit in urban areas, and recreational and agricultural parklands, centered in beautiful zigaurauts above ground.

Underground housing just bellow the surface using common place building technologies to reduce heat and cooling costs and prevent urban sprawl, wind sheers and excess of building materials. Even advance ceramic technologies are used to superbake mudbrick housing on the surface at entrance and exit ways, at a low cost and timeless ceramic durable and able to last the ages under extreme conditions.

Sewage systems are a huge environmental system, defecating or overtreating waste is recognized as environmental negligence, in areas that this occurs lifestock such as fish have dwindled or become species selective as the normal waters environmental conditions have waned, some waters are not fit for swimming, obviously the treatment via bulk dumping is not environmentally feasable, nor is allowing industries to dump industrial wastes in water. To model on the industrial waste pipelines ICCD has also implmented a multistage urban strategy for human wastes. First is the humanure initiative. At the lowest level composting toilets are the front end, this allows individuals to compost their own wastes. On the community level facilities are located locally and specific piping dedicated to greywater, urine, or fecal waste are used to, facilitate humanure and process urine for waste water and extraction of urea and other products in a hygenic enviornment. The urea and humanure which is produced along side methane waste vats, is used in community coops as safe nightsoils and urea fertalizers and water for the plants. Essentially everything that is taken from the natural foods from the community coops and gardens located on the surface go right back into the food source. Excess materials are distributed as needed. It should be noted that chemical products for household use are very regulated and insured to be environmentally safe, non toxic and reusable or integrated into the lifecycle. This may be seen as overbearing to some but in a close community interdependant the precautions on toxic substances in the community is for overall health and cohesion of the lifecycle process. Plus the products that are authorized are tested to be effective in their roles, killer products just arn't required, unless they are for the military. A great benifit to this is lowered instances of cancer and other health issues.

Oxygen can be used to purfiy the lower underground layers in underground urban areas or for clean combustion or otherwise, and hydrogen and methane (And the methane cycle) are standard fuel sources. Cars and other vehicles even use methane/hydrogen/water models 0 emissions, although biodeisel is not standard biomethane is. Although a there is naturally produced biodiesel capacities via a specific balm tree that can be tapped like a maple tree but the syrup is not sweet it is oil.

Magnetic technologies are another valuable technology although not going into great detail since this presentation is already rather long. To sum up there are millions of technologies out there that create economic and environmentally benificial processes. We highly recommend 0 emissions and green lifecycle systems, and for the industrial nations magmatechnologies.

These technologies are currently accessable, some for many thousands of years some cost prohibitive at first site. But the technologies exists now, this isn't technology of the future. We can dig holes, we can transport magma hot materials, we have foundries, we can crack oil and other molecular structures, we can heat water using lenses, we can grow our food safetly using our own food waste, this and countless other simple things that are safe and renewable systems, using LIFE to enhance life. The future is NOW.

it is all the system you implement, and become dependant on.. be healthy be green.
Commonalitarianism
04-01-2007, 18:58
Thanks for the input from Intracircumcordei.

It is possible to link the different systems together to eliminate the need for large landfills and unnatural sewage treatement. Combing industrial recycling and reclamation centers with consumer recycling, and bioshelter sewage treatment plants, eliminates the need for large landfills. Further it creates a concomitant stream which feeds into agriculture from bioshelter sewage treatment plants-- the fertilizer and methane produced go into help power net energy skyscraper vertical farms which produce excess food and energy. Because of the urban nature of these systems, the products need short shipping distances directly into arcologies or urban centers eliminating a lot of excess waste. Essentially a lot of the food and energy is produced inside the urban center allowing people to live closer together. This makes short commuting distances easier allowing for fast rail transport like solar trains, bicycles, and smaller urban vehicles. Heavier industry is given dedicated highways for intercity transport using biodiesel electric trains and heavier trucks.

The cities are also quieter because of new noise pollution control technologies and air pollution control technologies.

Some of the air pollution control technologies include: Flue capture systems and vacuuming systems designed to collect chemicals and waste matter for the industrial reclamation centers. Also tree barriers using phytoremediation help clean the air around factories and highways.

Noise is also considered a polluting source.

Machinery is built that is designed to reduce vibration and pad joints and machinery so they do not make as much noises. Foam pads and gels in doors and hoods of trucks, as well as sound absorbing tiles in houses makes the areas in the Commonalitarianism quieter than most cities.
Commonalitarianism
05-01-2007, 15:25
This is a collection of businesses brought together around a series of shared resources. Generally it starts with the building of a recycling and industrial reclamation center. Then businesses which share resources are brought. For example a biorefinery is built which provides fuel for a powerplant as well as chemicals for a green chemical plant. The green chemical plant provides enzymes and chemicals for a paving company, the paving company, gets stone from a quarry, a pharmaceutical company gets power from the biorefinery and green chemicals from the green chemical plant, etc. The companies share resources-- water is designed to flow through different areas in the park, there is a shared energy base from a set of solar and biodiesel generator, as well as wastewater gardens. The goal is to share resources, eliminate pollution and waste streams creating greater industrial efficiency and profits. It is a central tenet of the idea of a circular economy.
Commonalitarianism
06-01-2007, 16:05
The Commonalitarianism uses two main agricultural systems:

The first is a biodynamic agricultural system with integrated pest management. These are cleanly run farms.

The second are the bioshelters used for producing agricultural products.

PMT

A new system has been developed called natural systems agricultural this combines biotechnology with selective breeding to created closed agricultural ecosystems based on integrated pest management, and perennial crops of grasses-- wheat, rye, rice, barley, trees-- olives, apples, oranges, crops, herbs, and flowers. It is an advanced form of polyculture. This eliminates the use of most fossil fuels in farming, eliminates the majority of agrochemicals, creates permanent nitrogen fixing, and eliminates the need to till crops. Crop yields are both higher and cleaner.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
07-01-2007, 03:53
"It is possible to link the different systems together to eliminate the need for large landfills and unnatural sewage treatement. "

Well given the right environment or enought money to link them together sure it is posible. However, the key for instance of sewage treatment is controlling the type of sewage you have. Some of the major issues of modern industrial nation sewages are what goes down the drain.

- cutting off poisonous, toxic, and corrosive substances, those on the extremes as either acids or bases and other 'dangerous to mix chemicals' completly out of the system, by prohibiting consumer sale of the items, except on special prescription where there is a valid reason, and proper disposal is mandatory by returning the excess - at the same time, providing natural chemicals that cooperate or enhance the system and allowing these to be sold or distributed for use, is the other half. One of the major issues of sewage control is pharmaceutical usages removing pharmaceutical use as much as posible has to be done first of all, the second half is insuring that all prescription drugs are safe to be treated or to be mixed in with agricultural products. This could be an issue for some countries that implement widespread drugging of diagnosed conditions. ICCD implements strong suport for natriopathic medicines, and those that are no substancial, toxic or in general dangerous compounds, or those easily removed from sludges.

- if you look at landfill waste then you know what is there but what really needs to go there? None of it. Stopping the sale of plastic packaging outright and 'plastic composites', except those fully reclycable such as safe bottles or otherwise. That recycling is a huge part, along with insuring all materials are 100% recyclable, is insuring as many mutiple use items as posible. Using paper wrapping or other packaging systems, not only can the materials be recycled but in an emergency they have other uses, such as a fuel source.

- all organic matter can be composted, and if composted correctly can also be used to produce methane and other benifits.

What else goes in the waste?





"Combing industrial recycling and reclamation centers with consumer recycling, "

True this is done in part for some industries as human waste IS a form of industry. Urine contains water, urea and some other compounds that can be used in medications and other industrial usages. This is done, but for large populations, the industrial demand is far less than the human output. It ends up being that non agricultural industrial uses are far less demanding and equalized than the agricultural industry. These of course need to be offset with natural water/drainage systems, but part of it is 'refining the wastes so that they can be used individually, in their components in a sanitary manner. It is a fact that feces contains most of the materials needed for plant growth, fibres, nutrients, and vitamins. While urine contains nitrogen h20 and other useful products that speed and assist plant growth.

Not only can methane be claimed from decomposing organic matter in feces and waste food compost, but the sewage conduits can be cleaned to collect sludgings for use as biofeul for that matter the fecal waste can be converted into fuel other than methane, in the same class of biofuels garndered from other sources, using a high pressure system.

The methane in the Dian system do not only go to gas turbines, but also are used as a fuel source in variant Methane/Hydrogen/Oxygen/H2O hybrid cars that use a cycled firing system that burns both methane and hydrogen, to produce a number of byproduct chemicals, the steam itself can be used for limited electrolysis to very lightly increase fuel efficiency. The oxygen can be used to improve the engine performance and is also used in producing the steam from the hydrogen. Oddly in a larger model, such as an organic composte dump truck or tanker or something of the sort, it could be a BTTF delorian of sorts, inputing organic waste, garbage, and feuling the car --- making --- water. with either air intake or oxygen tanks. The electrolysis conversion using generated power both by 'pressure' in the closed system, minus the air intake piston action and wheel motion power the electrolysis plant. All byproduct chemicals C02 or otherwise are stored and used for extra pressurization until the car is emptied, the byproduct chemical after catalization is carbon on one one end, and water on the other. Carbon itself has many usages. All the systems do indeed interconnect that is part of the lifecycle of products, it is not just one technology it is how all the technologies interconnect to make a 'free' economy. Products are not implemented simply because they can be recycled but because their materials are in easy supply through other processes. Removing the need for massive consumption. Because what is needed is part of the economic cycle. Any excess production ends up meaning a larger population can be supported. The thing is though even dead bodies fit into the equation. Taking into account The natural cold fusion -- the hot sun, and the force of gravity, these are our endless energy sources, as long as we fit them into the equation, that and geothermal and other generally renewable sources, we have all the energy we need.

Even adding in robotics to the element perhaps there is your green utopia right there, as all the production and maitenance can be self handled, that with multivac of course, and we do have supercomputers. The key is making sure products are recyclable or fitting into the lifecycle. That is you start with feces, and end up after a long loop back at feces.

"shipping distances"
regionalization is another big part. Making sure local lifecycles are tied in as close to one another as posible is another big part of it, this reduces waste fallout and keeps the systems relatively united, of course there will be fluctuations and exchanges, tourism or otherwise, that is where the pipelines come in handy. 100% reliance on these systems does not exist, natural gas extraction and use of petrolleum fuels is still a back up, but limited reserves are only used as a secondary source. The key is insuring that the basic necesities are taken care of at 0 cost, or as low cost as posible. Complete regionalization may be issued, but 99%+ regionalization is posible. In ICCD luxury goods are a common import that and specific technologies, imports are a risk of course, but they too must be approved to be placed on the market. This can be seen as one of the issues with insuring product compatibility is that all imports for domestic use, must be approved.

The systems are not entirely connected though. The industrial system does not meet with the urban system directly since the industrial system has in some cases very dangerous substances, and by design is handled by Emergency Services due to the dangers involved, with security clearances required for Infrastructure Services staff. While the Urban System has lower standards of security (allowing provincial forces monitoring rather than wholey Imperial Forces) and is organized and managed cheifly by Infrastructure Services with much less interaction with Emergency Services since the substances are not by nature lethal. Manufacutured biproduct is however considered Industrial product such as urea, or any specific extracts. Most of this product is directly reused. The sewage systems are flushed using greywater but the greywater itself is cleansed and reused for reflushing.

ICCD takes a slight alternate on urban dwelling instead of going UP, it goes down. Although multileveled gardens, promenades and zigaurauts occur above the surface. ICCD has never really used skyscrappers. Glass itself is only a recently used technology, in the past clay was a common material, while glass itself was not overly popular. With the advent of major silicate industries, glass is becoming far more common, in use of greenhouses.

ICCD implements urban communiting systems underground. So it is more of an underground archology but there are many small blip up igloo type surface areas of dried brick that go down into a home area. Underneath the home are other layers that connect through public access streets. Public transit is connected on mainline streets like a subway and run regularly using energy generated either by subsurface reactors or surface energy systems as required, gaused magnetic pathways are the main source of public transit but wheels also exist on the maglevs, so that if levetation is lost or the power goes out or some other issue they can continue to a shelter. The roadways connect onto underground highways, extremely expensive tunnels and a number of very large floodable tunnels that even the standard dian subs can utilize, so the main tunnels are not only very large, mamoth tunnels but they can also be flooded. This is not so much environmental though. except to say that most land transit is done underground, excep when it is not posible.

ICCD's has a number of very large urban centers, and employs mostly underground structures, with some high density housing but urban sprawl is also quite common, but the sprawl is different in that it is below the surface not above the surface. Appartment complexes are mostly unheard of but a large portion of the youth up to age 23 are in dorm styled buildings as part of their service obligations. Other government employees also live in dorm styled buildings. Lacus prae is one notable exception to the underground building, in that it is the higher immigrant population and these populations have gone about building above ground in specific areas, this has been loosely tolerated.In specific areas, including the diplomatic zones.



"noise pollution" Is kept at a minimum due to underground sheilding, but the key is in keeping the loud things on the surface, and the noise polluting industries as far underground as posible. The underground rail being primarily maglev also makes it largely silent, the sealed tunneling also helps. Security and Infrastructure vehicles are also able to travel the conduits. With motorcycles or other equipment to even be mobile in hallways. Bicycles are less common in ICCD and more common is inline scates which attach to dian standard issue boots, in mass production and provided free, along with free clothing, with an upright prod wheel poll like a walker, this poll can be used to hold the inline skater upright magnetic forces then propell the skater along the path using a light magnetic force, also gaused by the energy sources when required. This is done through light magnetic currents the wheels themselves when spinning also gauss using an piezoelectro-magnetic conversion.. the weight on the plates also activates a slight charge. The boots are recycled for younger individuals, and become standard, and due to their lifelong qualities. Of course there are those who do not like this form of transport. The benifit of the boots, is that the inline skate attachments are not the only ones and a number of other attachments or just the plain boot cleating is posible. Since the standard issue clothes are provided free to all citizens, it provides for an in general faster moving population. With less reliance on alternate transit, except for those who are actual workers in industries. For the young it allows them to cover longer distances in a shorter period of time using minimal ammounts of their own energy. The rail system is generally reserved only for those working in industries or teens in central highschool locations. and/or the military and other government workers.

Air pollution isn't an issue in the slightest since all major polluting industries are located below ground, asnd all industry being 0 emissions. The plants are for the most part the only surface industries, and they produce oxygen, and remove any Co2 which humans resporate. Providing a much cleaner air intake. There are air purifiers and air intake points at various areas, but new insertions into most urban areas, allow the same rebreathing technologies on submarines to be used in the underground tunnels. There are a number of oxygen production systems implemented, including subsurface aquaculture.

since our vehicles are 0 exhaust closed systems that actually have excess by product removed from them at the refueling stations.. no dangerous substances such as CO etc.. go into the atomosphere.. any CO2 not catalyzed for carbon or excess water goes into the storage vaults at the refueling stations, carbon being a main byproduct, which is then reused in multiple industries.

Although sound reducing technology is important, the absence of many noise producing equipment is also a benifit. The halways are the main security areas, in addition to having surveilance systems also have sealable connections which are much like airlocks which can be computer controlled, alteast in the lower levels. The upper levels are relatively open and utilize curtains instead of doors in most cases. as 'neighbourhoods' tend to be very family/clan oriented and these is a lot of trust within the family. Although relative crime rates are very high in ICCD, the level of violence for most crimes as a repercussion is also very high. The cameras also help to reduce recidivism. Noise isn't much of an issue but vibration can be, that is why reverberation engineering is very vital. This allow those major industries to have their accoustic / vibrations come back at them and into sound vibration chambers, these chambers can then be used to create energy via piezoelectric vibration, using a series of microwaffers which create microtorque to relizable torque and eventually peizoelectric energy creation. These same waffers can be used in high tectonic stress areas to create energy. Although high in cost in general, the very cheap mass silicate industries enable the waffers to be manufactured at extremely low cost.



--- ICCD is seriously considering designing it''s own implementation of the Commonalitarianism archologies in a (MT/early PMT) combined system. Perhaps in some way mergining ICCD's systems with Commonalitarianism skyscrapper archologies... ICCD is considering setting aside one of it's two colonies to test out this project.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
07-01-2007, 04:31
ICCD differs slightly in it's approach, it does not aim to artifically modify plants, but breed them naturally. Pests actually promote life. No petroleum based crop management is required. An abudance of pests promotes natural life to bloom. This natural life then assists in nourisment of the soil and wild species expansion, promoting a greener and more luxurious flora and fauna system. This trickles down through the entire food pyramid. It allows more and more soil to be created, creating richer soils. ICCD storngly beleives in supporting the food chain rather than artifically capping it off. The more species there are out there the more life is promoted. Of course some simple methods can be used to reduce the impact of species. Strong natural grown products are held higher then GMO's, but protecting the food source from dangerous disease strains is also important. Oddly 'pests' are managed naturally, instead of using chemicals or engineered plant defences, they are controlled using counter species but a fine balance needs to be provided. since even decayed or 'spoiled' materials still have a use as long as there is an abundance of food materials mostly controlled pests are still well maintained. There are a wide variety of natural remidies when incredibly bad, such as mentioned sweet grasses.

Definately the mixing of crops can go a long way in preventing major infestations.

High Yeild farming stratagies have proven themselves time and time again to be damaging to the soil and environment. What needs to be maintained is a healthy growth, that focuses on capacity rather than high yeild plants. Having enough food to feed the people of course is the key but high yeild need not be a primary concern especially when there is excess feedstock production in many cases, and ICCD doesn't implement animal stock. Only the human dead and naturally deceased animals are consumable by law, thus an abundance of species increases the chance of food. The absence of poisons and toxins means that animals natural dead are not dead as a result of poison, but still could be dead due to disease, but there are some careful tests to remove that likelyhood as much as posible. Animal industry is not endorsed

It is also a perhaps well known foot note that use of petroleum pesticides kill the soil requiring use of perhaps once again petrol fertalizers, which end up killing soil bacteria, creating a dependance on more fertalizers and pestacides. An infestation is not good but there are alternatives to petrol. This is current knowledge, no bioengineering is required.

The Commonalitarianism uses two main agricultural systems:

The first is a biodynamic agricultural system with integrated pest management. These are cleanly run farms.

The second are the bioshelters used for producing agricultural products.

PMT

A new system has been developed called natural systems agricultural this combines biotechnology with selective breeding to created closed agricultural ecosystems based on integrated pest management, and perennial crops of grasses-- wheat, rye, rice, barley, trees-- olives, apples, oranges, crops, herbs, and flowers. It is an advanced form of polyculture. This eliminates the use of most fossil fuels in farming, eliminates the majority of agrochemicals, creates permanent nitrogen fixing, and eliminates the need to till crops. Crop yields are both higher and cleaner.
Commonalitarianism
08-01-2007, 18:57
Mining

The Commonalitarianism has not effectively come up with solutions for mining until the PMT stage. In the PMT stage it has started mining asteroids and comets for metallic and organic contents. It has developed mass drivers, to throw the materials from the asteroid fields to catch nets near the moon. This has largely replaced earth based mining.

Also at the PMT stage, the Commonalitarianism has started building deep drilling facilities attempting to copy the Intracircumcordei magmatech mining and heat technologies.

Where the Commonalitarianism has began excelling is the creation of White Biotechnology, Biomimicry, and Biomaterials.

A number of new materials have been developed for both industrial, medical, and military use. This has been made possible by the creation of bioreactors which house bacteria and other living organisms. Some of this is ecologically sounds, other parts of it are military in nature.

Silk-- Woven spider silk
Fibre-- Woven hemp fiber insulation, pressed straw blocks.
Biofoams-- Foams produced from plant products.
Chitin-- Moldable produced insect chitin.
Bone-- Regenerative bone material based on rhino horn, a superhard ceramic drawn from nacre in abalone shells.
Adhesives-- A copy of the adhesive in mussels or shellfish for glue. Other plant adhesives as well.
Grown crystalline structures-- including crystalline molds and fabbers for dishes, cups, windshields, and containers.
Wood and Biomass-- Molds to shape lignin extacted from woods, biopolymers to replace plastics.
Selective breeding of hard woods including pine and iron wood. Pressed wood paneling and heat treated wood and adhesive molds. Bamboo trussed structures.
Zein -- corn based bioplastics. Collagen based bioplastics.

Natural substances are used as well, including stone, and mud.
Commonalitarianism
09-01-2007, 04:49
Preservation Culture

Because the Commonalitarianism is focused on biotechnology and ecology, it can draw from any tech level in terms of trade if the natives are capable of describing the plant and animal life in the area they live in. This allows them to scout out PT, MT, and FT for biological based trade in living goods. It also means they are less focused on cultural superiority because of the desire to acquire ethnobotanical goods.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
10-01-2007, 01:28
ICCD is interested in hearing more about your White Biotechnology, Biomimicry research and implementations. Is biomimicry another away of saying cloning?

The bioreactors is a very intersting idea, if you could somehow bread a small biomass to fill multiple roles. ICCD is very interested in specific bioreactor applications you may be researching or implementing.
Commonalitarianism
10-01-2007, 03:40
Biomimicry (from bios, meaning life, and mimesis, meaning to imitate) is a new science that studies nature’s best ideas and then imitates these designs and processes to solve human problems.

This is basically a science that seeks out functions from nature and copies them for industrial and technological purposes. For example, nacre was discovered to be the hardest ceramic much harder than industrial ceramics, so they are attempting to replicate it from nature. In a similar manner spider silk is 5 x stronger than steel, so they are trying to manufacture spider silk. A birds wings change in flight, so they are trying to create airplane wings which change in flight to model aerodynamics. Other examples are natural processes for leaching chemicals from the soil, studying the process which apes use to choose plants to medicate themselves, and similar things. There is a decent amount of material on the process. There are numerous journals on the subject. It is a fairly young science.

A bioreactor is a chemical still used to process biomass-- this can be bacteria, wood, plants, etc. Basically, it is a reactor to make green chemicals and tissue. Bioreactors can be used to grow tissue cultures from plants, bacteria, insects, and animals, this means things like bone, cartilage, fibre, lignin, cellulose, nacre, hide, muscle tissue, artificial muscles, and other human and animal products can be grown and cultured. It is very similar to cloning at the industrial level, it does not create whole creatures. Bioreactors in medicine would be used to grow blood, skin, bone, muscle, tissues, and organs for medical purposes.

A PMT bioreactor or Industrial Cloning Vat might--

Produce chemicals or products from a biological base-- everything from tissue to bone in bacteria, plants, and animals. The major advantage is that although these would not necessarily be natural in the purest sense, they would be more biodegradable, and the chemistry could be controlled so it would be less polluting. There would be some moral and ethical issues as well.
Commonalitarianism
18-01-2007, 16:57
The Commonalitarianism has taken reuse further than the original 3 R's allowing them to do some very interesting processes industrially.

They have The 5 R's -- Recycle, Reuse, Reclaim, Repair, Remanufacture Salvage, and Upgrade. What this means is that in addition to being recycled, most items are designed so they can be repaired with standardized parts. This increases the normal lifetime of a product.

Remanufacturing is the idea that old items after their warranty is finished can be returned to the factories which they came from for a deposit and then rebuilt again to be resold. It also can be represented in the Xerox service model where you pay not for the individual item but the right to use a specific product for example, they will take your old copier away and replace it with a new one, then remanufacture the copier so it can be used elsewhere. Many industrial items are designed for remanufacture. Another example is with disposable cameras, you take your pictures and return the camera for the film to be processed, the camera is sent back to the factory where it is refurbished and sent out again with a new roll of film.

Salvage:

With very strong reclamation abilities, the Commonalitarianism can actively take apart objects the size of battleships in the modern era. They even started a large scale reclamation project for undersea objects called "Operation Undertow." In PMT, they have cleaned up large amounts of old satellites and space garbage reclaiming them for their own use. In FT, this includes capital ships. They also actively salvage alien technology to improve their technical base.

There are two major companies that do this, the Interspace and Undersea International Salvage and Recycling Cooperative, and the Marianis Waste Management Syndicate.

PMT

As advances occur in these areas, a number of new technologies are developed. The first is a molecular chemical breadkdown vat, which can breakdown and sort chemicals by their molecular structure turning wastes into chemical resources. The other is a nanite breakdown vat which can separate solid materials in their constituent elements. This makes all trash valuable. The Commonalitarianism effectively imports trash breaking it down it down into useful materials from other countries.
Commonalitarianism
18-01-2007, 21:59
PMT

Integrated Evidence Based Medicine, By 2030, the Commonalitarianism scientifically tested most herbs on the market for scientific efficacy, as well as have fully tested Ayurveda and Traditional Asian Medicine-- Chinese, Japanese, and Korean medicine for their scientific accuracy using evidence based clinical trials. This has allowed them to change their pharmaceutical base to a system with less toxic pollutants. Also, it has allowed them to expand their understanding and ability to use ethnobotany for medical purposes. A new curriculum has been developed eliminating and changing the way medicine is practiced focusing on prevention. This has been combined with tissue vats and bioreactors designed to grow organs from the people involved advancing medicine considerably.
Kesshite
18-01-2007, 22:54
The Emerald Mother praise you in your efforts to help her world remain the paradise it was meant to be. However, despite the 'all tech' sign you've hung outside, we see little that doesn't demand at least modern technology or much better.

Oh well, back to slashing and burning down our rainforests.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
19-01-2007, 04:04
The Emerald Mother praise you in your efforts to help her world remain the paradise it was meant to be. However, despite the 'all tech' sign you've hung outside, we see little that doesn't demand at least modern technology or much better.

Oh well, back to slashing and burning down our rainforests.


The weird thing is you have more to gain by not slash and burn.. large scale slash and burn isn't viable over the long term, unless the rate of growth outstrips the rate of destruction. (Slash and burn as naturally occurs by in many cases drought induced forest fires is a natural replenishment and ecological birthing ground.

ICCD largely agrees with the common replacement part theory, and uses the same concept for 'usuable common items' since there are no patents in ICCD individuals arn't forced to pay or become restricted to use good processes. Since major industries are state owned (as state cooperatives) the capacity to plan amongst the major industries increases to use efficeint and cost effective solutions ina broad application. All materials themselves are in general somehow deconstructable. Wether it is via a 0 emissions foundry (for recasting of metals), through using a plastic moldings which are remoldable, or other practices. While some items are hard to handle this way 99.9% of materials are able to be managed, the others are able to be reacted, in a decomposition reactor. What might traditionally be toxic waste can instead be processeed by utilizing natural ionic exchanges and molecular deconstruction via strong acids and bases. Essentially what you have is a material refinery, while processes can take energy when using a stream of occurance processes, and an environment of generall energy abundance, the cost of dealing with that 0.1% or less, is well worth it. The only time that abberant materials are needed is when a very specialized and usually industrial process is required.


One of the joys of living in ICCD is the agro's. The agros are the land above the habitation areas - these are managed ecologies / tropical forst in climatable areas. Or in others they are stepped terraces along the mountains, or treelined etc.. The use of various 'survival' training courses via Emergency Services takes the people back to Hunter Gatherer society for a few weeks a year as part of the school program. Of course these same agros are used for agroforestry, both by 'farmers' or others. While some areas are high density crop areas, others are not high density, instead they are species abundant. This allows gather of herbs, and fruits and other materials as they grow naturally. This is not traditional agro practice of the 20th century. Use of petro fertalizers is non existant. Plant and other natural fertalizers are used. Mixture with decomposed humanure and other practices are used in some more structured farming practices. Diffusion is seen as a key to a healthy enduring ecology, concentration = a more diffiicult balance. So while there are some dedicated food bases, including heavy greenhouse hydroponics processes , providing food from natural ecologies as it has been for thousands upon thousands of years, is another practice. In a Dians lifetime they have likely planted or help rased between 100 and 1000 or more trees and other plants. For a population of over a billion this runds between 100 billion and 1 trillion plants per lifetime. Raising of plants is also part of the Dian culture. Coconut Palms are planted when someone is born, or some other suitable plant such as an olive tree, apple tree etc.. when someone reaches the second age - when they start social activity as an individual at 3 - they plant their own, then again each year of schooling there is a planting week, where some area is either seeded or groomed, as well as other beautification projects. Then at other points in their life these same caretaking processes occurs. As part of the cultural religion, seeds are to be saved from all foods and put in a seed bank - once the germination period has elapsed or the banks are full they can be used for other processes.

The cultural technologies are very vital. Tree climbing as a practice is another important part. Ecology is very large, and that is why part of the early schooling system is devoted to physical education and survival practices. A general rejection of denatured recreational urban society is deep in the hearts of a healthy DIan society - rather than recreation - natural enhancement is used. For instance the ZIggaurats/ Hanging gardens - the tended lakes and rivers - controlled sewage. Natural recreation is another big part of it - being able to climb trees and hills spluenking or running or other natural practices. Having food at hand and knowing what is edible so the population isn't totally dependant on a manufactured food source. Fresh foods as part of the diet is large, even though prepakaged dry foods is another part of the dietary source - natural rations is a big part of it dried fruitbars etc..
Commonalitarianism
19-01-2007, 16:02
Part of the Commonalitarianism interest in technologies is reviving past technologies. One such technology is the Chinampa or floating lake garden from the Aztecs. The Commonalitarianism has revived this by bulding floating gardens in some of its lakes mainly as a source of beautification. There are some used for agricultural purposes.

In addition pillar gardens of a similar design to the Hanging Gardens of Babylon have been built as part of its botanic gardens for historic interest. The Commonalitarianism has also taken an interest in copying a few step pyramid gardens from Intracircumcordei for its botanical gardens as well.
Commonalitarianism
19-01-2007, 16:11
Part of the botanical gardens in the Commonalitarianism are devoted to the study of permaculture and intensive polyculture. These include things like the Taungya Agroforestry gardens-- There is a rich tradition of different indigenous tree garden systems in Java. Mixed gardens are ecologically complex and rich ecosystems with multi-layered, multispecies structure. These gardens are comprised of falcata, robusta coffee (Coffea canephora), fruit trees such as coconut (Cocos nucifera), jackfruit (Artocarpus heterophyllus), banana (Musa spp.), etc., tuber crops and grasses.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
20-01-2007, 01:55
Definately the concept of the Chinampa is not only workable as part of a landscape but also usable as an aquaculture food source.

ICCD had taken a mix of approaches in it's botanicals, as far as gardens are concerned the approach depends on landscape. Since historically Dians are mountain people that adapted to other environments in part through masonry, that is quarying and pyramid building part of the process was adapting mountain agricultural practices to steped stone structures. The classic pyramids however were adapted over time to serve multiple purposes - more like a zigaurat, the technologies themselves merged to a pyraimid zigauraut. While the structure is a stepped pyramid, the size itself allows for secondary structures and task specific areas, such as rain collection endentures and irrigation grooving from level to level, natural public pools and bathign areas and sun lounging, in addition to the food growth, and cosmetic purposes. This allow the land to be maximized for denisty. Rather than just farming on flat land, we have three dimensional farming, but utilization is not only set for the agricultural but also the agrisocial benifits. Depending on the direction of the steps, the area is planned based upon the point the sun is in contact with the angle. This allows for day crops and night crops as well as day social and night social areas.

Sitting areas, and carvings, are also included although not 'environmental' specific, it tkaes a natural environment and makes it livable without invasive foreign atomic concentrations. The erosion and runoff overtime can be repaired by masons, another part of the Dian culture. Natural sun dialls and solar observatories are gained. One of the nice benifits of the unspoiled Dian skyline is sight of stars and other skyward objects. Since 0 emission and next to no light pollution exists the scene scapes are beautiful even more so from on top of a zigauraut.. the Dian Skyscrapper of sorts.

Permaculture is a wonderful study and there is much to learn from it. It is wonderful to know that so many mutually benifical practices can be cross adopted between our people.