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Really, BL, you CAN bring FT ships to combat our PMT spacecraft.

But then, I get to use my FT space fleet, too.

And that one is comprised of a full 1,900 FT ships of different sizes, not counting fighters and such.

According to your factbook, you have... 32 ships.

I will gladly take 40 casualties to each one of yours, if you like.

I suggest we keep it at a PMT level. If you want to use your space sattelites and stuff, then we get to use our space stuff, too. I think it's only fair.

Agreed, no one uses FT in a PMT fight, its like bringing a rocket launcher to a knife fight.

Agreed, no one uses FT in a PMT fight, its like bringing a rocket launcher to a knife fight.

Fuck...I've done that before and still lost...RPG to a knife fight...got stabbed.

Or an ICBM to a round of ro-sham-bo...

Since it seems like a lot of other GASN nations are getting involved in this, is it too late/closed for me to send some forces? I'd like the opportunity...

My FT version of myself is the Minbari Federation, which has 1,200 or so ships, and will GLADLY get involved if you try to use your FT space stuff.

So Whyatica, you say for people please to not send military aid to you. I'm assuming you're trying to avoid the dangers of a massive coalition, which inevitably breaks apart at the seams and usually ends with the entire war getting retcon'd. However, what if there were other people using this as a chance to strike BL for the same reasons as everyone else, such as myself, because we've wanted to for a while and have been looking for a chance? For example, I've been arguing in favour of a war with them for several days now, ever since that 'My Son, Optimus Prime' thread.

So... You seem to be making it a closed war, but this seems somewhat unfair to those of us also looking for a chance to crush them. Maybe I'll just start my own war. With blackjack. And hookers. You know what, forget the war.

I've got a few hundred BSG styled craft. I'd be more than happy to have some FT fun.

@LC
You'd have to ask Why on that one, I suppose.

I edited out my spacedy attacks, out of respect for British Londinum.

Use any PMT spacedy, my PMT spacedy comes in.

Use any FT spacedy, my FT spacedy comes in. Only fair.

I'm in for the blackjack and the hookers, but if you want to make your own thread against BL, go right ahead.

And it's not really my problem that British Londinium made himself enemy of the world >>.

Clandonian Navy- British Londinium Invasion Force

Lord Sea Admiral Miklanov's Super Fleet

24x Carriers: 8x Invincible class, 8x Cavour Class, 8x CVN 21 Class Aircraft carrier

24x Amphibious/ Assault Ships: 8x Albion Class, 8x SAN ANTONIO CLASS (LPD), 8x Wasp Class

16x Cruisers: 16x Ticonderoga Class CG Cruiser, 8x Slava Class Missile Cruiser, 12x Kirov Class Battlecruiser, 8x Ticonderoga Class CG

56x Submarines: 20x Typhoon-Dankseran Class Nuclear Submarine, 10x Ohio Class Missile Cruisers, 10x Astute SNN class submarine, 16x Super-Danskeran Class Nuclear Submarines

72x Destroyers: 28x Hydra Class FFH/FFG, 20x Sovremenny Class DDG, 24x Duke Class (type 23) FFG

70x Frigates: 40x Type 45 Daring Class DDG, 30x Anzac Class FFH/FFG

32x Fleet Auxiliaries: 8x Durance Class AOE, 16x Etna Class AOR, 8x Supply Class AOE

600x F-35A JSF

360x Harrier GR7

280x Merlin ASW Helicopters

360x S-70B-2 Seahawk Helicopter

480x AH-64D Longbow Apache Helicopters


Lt. Commander 'Undead' Lazurus's Fleet

12x Carriers: 4x Invincible class, 4x Cavour Class, 4x CVN 21 Class Aircraft carrier

28x Cruisers: 8x Slava Class Missile Cruiser, 12x Kirov Class Battlecruiser, 8x Ticonderoga Class CG

44x Amphibious/ Assault Ships: 16x Albion Class, 8x SAN ANTONIO CLASS (LPD), 20xWasp Class (Landing Craft)

12x Destroyers: 4x Hydra Class FFH/FFG, 2x Sovremenny Class DDG, 6x Duke Class (type 23) FFG

16x Frigates: 8x Type 45 Daring Class DDG, 8x Anzac Class FFH/FFG

68x Submarines: 8x Super Danskeran Class SSBNC 20x Ohio Class Missile Cruisers SSBN (Can fire ICBMs , SRBMs , Tridents , Polaris), 40x Typhoon-Danskeran Class Nuclear Submarines SSBN

44x Patrol Craft and Missile Boats: 16x Mark V Special Operations Craft, 20x River Class PG/MSC, 8x Barzan (Vita) Class FAC[M]

12x Mine Warfare Vessels: 8x Hunt Class MSC/MHC, 4x Sandown Class MHC/SRMH

16x Fleet Auxiliaries: 4x Durance Class AOE, 4x Etna Class AOR, 8x Supply Class AOE

160x Merlin ASW Helicopters

80x S-70B-2 Seahawk Helicopter

200x Harrier GR7

120x F-18 Hornet

200x F-35 Naval Version


Commander Lord Drongon IV's Fleet

16x Carriers: 4x Invincible class, 4x Cavour Class, 8x CVN 21 Class Aircraft carrier

28x Cruisers: 8x Slava Class Missile Cruiser, 12x Kirov Class Battlecruiser, 8x Ticonderoga Class CG

44x Amphibious/ Assault Ships: 16x Albion Class, 8x SAN ANTONIO CLASS (LPD), 20x Wasp Class (Landing Craft)

32x Destroyers: 8x Hydra Class FFH/FFG, 8x Sovremenny Class DDG, 16x Duke Class (type 23) FFG

16x Frigates: 8x Type 45 Daring Class DDG, 8x Anzac Class FFH/FFG

68x Submarines: 8x Super Danskeran Class SSBNC 20x Ohio Class Missile Cruisers SSBN (Can fire ICBMs , SRBMs , Tridents , Polaris), 40x Typhoon-Danskeran Class Nuclear Submarines SSBN

32x Fleet Auxiliaries: 8x Durance Class AOE, 8x Etna Class AOR, 16x Supply Class AOE

180x Merlin ASW Helicopters

100x S-70B-2 Seahawk Helicopter

200x Harrier GR7

120x F-18 Hornet

400x F-35 Naval Version

240x AH-64D Longbow Apache Helicopters


Commander Lt. Jnr. Puriton's Fleet

16x Carriers: 4x Invincible class, 4x Cavour Class, 8x CVN 21 Class Aircraft carrier

28x Cruisers: 8x Slava Class Missile Cruiser, 12x Kirov Class Battlecruiser, 8x Ticonderoga Class CG

44x Amphibious/ Assault Ships: 16x Albion Class, 8x SAN ANTONIO CLASS (LPD), 20xWasp Class (Landing Craft)

32x Destroyers: 8x Hydra Class FFH/FFG, 8x Sovremenny Class DDG, 16x Duke Class (type 23) FFG

16x Frigates: 8x Type 45 Daring Class DDG, 8x Anzac Class FFH/FFG

68x Submarines: 8x Super Danskeran Class SSBNC 20x Ohio Class Missile Cruisers SSBN (Can fire ICBMs , SRBMs , Tridents , Polaris), 40x Typhoon-Danskeran Class Nuclear Submarines SSBN

16x Fleet Auxiliaries: 4x Durance Class AOE, 4x Etna Class AOR, 8x Supply Class AOE

180x Merlin ASW Helicopters

100x S-70B-2 Seahawk Helicopter

200x Harrier GR7

120x F-18 Hornet

400x F-35 Naval Version

240x AH-64D Longbow Apache Helicopters

I'm in for the blackjack and the hookers, but if you want to make your own thread against BL, go right ahead.

And it's not really my problem that British Londinium made himself enemy of the world >>.

It's really becoming a fashion these days... Kraven did it, then Blackhelm Confederacy, then Clandonia Prime, now British Londinium... in contrast to the people who actually became enemies of the world because they were good at what they did, like Melkor Unchained.

Back in the day it was the noobs. Psycho Retards was my favourite. He just claimed to have massive amounts of everything and we just poked holes in everything. Me and Kits especially. Ah, I miss Kits. She was probably the best NSer ever at making fun of noobs. And I do not say that lightly.

These days people tend to be made fun of in character rather than out of it, and they wait a while before they do, instead of posting what BL is posting now on his first day. They get a couple hundred million people, think they're all that, and decide 'Screw the world!' and we always have to be there to pick up the pieces.

I know what you're talking about, Czardas. Probably the biggest case of 'enemy of the world' ever was GDODAD. Though dwarfed in objective size by some of the alliances around today, it was so big and powerful - and evil - that everyone RPed fear of it. If they didn't, they were invaded by it. If you refused to acknowledge an invasion, every RPer on the boards ignored you because it was a legitimate action. If I keep going on this tangent I'll get into my rant about what I believe has ruined (much) NS RPing: the so-called right to ignore things. Any things. The right to retroactively say something didn't happen. By golly, in the good old days, if you got nuked, you stayed nuked. And then if you said you hadn't been, people made fun of you until you made a new nation. Because IC, everyone in your old one was dead.

yeah, I figured someone like you would know better than I do, I joined in '04 and was kind of apathetic about the game until I created Czardas anyway, so I really didn't pay much attention until people started mentioning those people as old-timers and then I had to refresh my rather fuzzy memory to remember what exactly they did.

and yeah, Haraki, people really do have to start treating NS more like actual international politics and less like a board game or videogame. NS has no spawnpoints and you can't undo what you did in real life either. Maybe I'm really obsessed with this game, but still, even if I were nuked and my nation devastated I know I wouldn't decide to ignore it.

Of course, as it is a game there are legitimate reasons to ignore or retcon things, as in real life nations aren't represented by individuals who bicker over little matters of who shot whom, or go on vacation for long periods of time. (Imagine if real nations did that. The area which used to be France would simply become empty land because the president was on vacation. Of course, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing...)

Much as we might like to continue reminiscing, we should probably stop going off topic.

Back on the subject, if I do decide to go to war with BL, I probably will create a new thread, although it seems too much since I won't actually be deploying many land forces - I'd probably be sending naval and air forces to pound his naval and air forces and provide support for Whyatican/Allanean ground troops. No reason we can't be friends.

I wouldn't mind the island of Kensington if possible.

That's my bloody capital. I'm not giving anyone territory, period.

Note: my nation was a democracy. My president was elected, and so was parliament; Parliament approved most of my nation's actions.

Apparently I can't join.

Perhaps BL would be more willing to give up territory if it was radioctive glass?

No.

And I'd like YOUR MUM!!!11one

Welcome to IRC, BL.

Irc?

And I'd like YOUR MUM!!!11one

Welcome to IRC, BL.

IRC?

That's my bloody capital. I'm not giving anyone territory, period.


Can you get on AIM?

I am.

And I'd like YOUR MUM!!!11one

Welcome to IRC, BL.

Stop making references to obscure things/people other people won't understand, it confuses them and gives the wrong message.

Stop making references to obscure things/people other people won't understand, it confuses them and gives the wrong message.

Awww... that's my specialty! That way only Sophisticated™ people can understand what I'm talking about! :(

IRC?

Internet Relay Chat

My FT version of myself is the Minbari Federation, which has 1,200 or so ships, and will GLADLY get involved if you try to use your FT space stuff.

What FT society doesn't have 1200 Sharlin- class warcruisers armed and ready for a fight? The one with the Vorlon Planet Killer :D

(me, I prefer a thousand White-Stars supported by a couple hundered Victory's, but one can dream)

I do more than dream all of that, but even if my nation becomes involved in all of this, due to a Bautizar post in the FT alliance I joined recently, I 'won't' send any forces, and barely any peacemeal support to avoid the obvious argument implications that would occur.

I'll attempt to come in diplomatically instead later, IF everything is rped out properly, and no OOC arguments ensue. Otherwise I'll end up just rping my concentration on the Dark Eternal War where my assets are all tied up into anyway, between territory defense and invasion operations.

Despite all my wankery, all the resources are still all taken up by the sheer amount of operational area I deal with, even enough to take away from sending anything substantial to even one small patch of land on Earth. So it's all more than lkely going to be a watch and see inferrence on my part of all this.

My assets in Japan and the Luna Starport won't involve themselves except in a defensive role of their own assets.

What FT society doesn't have 1200 Sharlin- class warcruisers armed and ready for a fight? The one with the Vorlon Planet Killer :D

(me, I prefer a thousand White-Stars supported by a couple hundered Victory's, but one can dream)

I don't have 1,200 Sharlins :p, I use a more balanced fleet, if you're interested you can look at my factbook (http://whyatica.wordpress.com).

Well clearly, not even the Minbari have 1200 Sharlins but wouldn't that be cool? Some good distribution in the fleet... I prefer a lot of the newer ISA stuff, though the Warlock, for all it's bluster is not even the equal of the Victory class

Greetings. More likely than not, none of you know me as I've been on a bit of an RP hiatus since before most of your nations were in diapers, save for Allanea and Questers. Though I can't say I know them. I've been watching this little situation progress with some interest. The interest being that if FT does become involved, I'll consider sending some on my not tied up at all forces in aid of BL.

Just thought I'd drop and mention it. I'll leave you all to your discussions now.

Crossman, there's no need to be condescending, especially if you don't know all the facts. I'm the oldest nation in this thread (unless you predate April 2003). But you didn't know that, so I forgive you for the (unintended?) slight.

By the way, just so you know, the war's over. BL surrendered unconditionally before any fighting took place, agreed to some rather humiliating peace terms (Not mine) and submitted every member of their government and armed forces to an international war crimes tribunal - I pity the person that has to try however many millions of people that is.

What started all this exactly anyway? Since I got a First Contact thread going presently, probably will affect how I deal with BL in the future, and goddess forbid any other nations because of all this.

If anything at all... stress on the later part. =oo=

I have absolutely no idea what is going on... but, if this is FT, as I think it is, EVIL has nothing to do with it.

This is PMT.

I leave for one day and he gets himself jumped by half of NS... but it seems he surrendered, so if we were going to help him, bit late now.

Crossman, there's no need to be condescending, especially if you don't know all the facts. I'm the oldest nation in this thread (unless you predate April 2003). But you didn't know that, so I forgive you for the (unintended?) slight.

By the way, just so you know, the war's over. BL surrendered unconditionally before any fighting took place, agreed to some rather humiliating peace terms (Not mine) and submitted every member of their government and armed forces to an international war crimes tribunal - I pity the person that has to try however many millions of people that is.

I apologize entirely, no condescension was intended. And no, I would not have known that without checking your actually nation profile, seeing that your account here says '05. It was merely a statement I was making and not meant to be a slight on anyone. Well, maybe a little, but only in good fun.

I saw that the war had ended before it began, so I have been paying attention. Really it was just an excuse to get my military some practice after a long period of isolation.

Let his government be tried, I read some of the atrocities. I just wish to protect his nation's people from undue suffering.

Also, just looking out for the new guy.

I really doubt the war would've expanded to future tech anyway - it'd be too many headaches, seeing as, for example, Whyatica in FT has nothing to do with Whyatica in PMT, and there'd need to be some serious temporal screwups that would throw an FT Whyatican ship in PMT >>.

Anyway, yeah, the war's over. Us naughty imperialists have won again.

If BL's nation exists after all this, the FT diplomatic meathooks might get their turn if I got the gist of what caused all of this.

Back in the day it was the noobs. Psycho Retards was my favourite. He just claimed to have massive amounts of everything and we just poked holes in everything. Me and Kits especially. Ah, I miss Kits. She was probably the best NSer ever at making fun of noobs. And I do not say that lightly.

These days people tend to be made fun of in character rather than out of it, and they wait a while before they do, instead of posting what BL is posting now on his first day. They get a couple hundred million people, think they're all that, and decide 'Screw the world!' and we always have to be there to pick up the pieces.

I know what you're talking about, Czardas. Probably the biggest case of 'enemy of the world' ever was GDODAD. Though dwarfed in objective size by some of the alliances around today, it was so big and powerful - and evil - that everyone RPed fear of it. If they didn't, they were invaded by it. If you refused to acknowledge an invasion, every RPer on the boards ignored you because it was a legitimate action. If I keep going on this tangent I'll get into my rant about what I believe has ruined (much) NS RPing: the so-called right to ignore things. Any things. The right to retroactively say something didn't happen. By golly, in the good old days, if you got nuked, you stayed nuked. And then if you said you hadn't been, people made fun of you until you made a new nation. Because IC, everyone in your old one was dead.

Gdodad scared me?

...

Are you sure? I dont remember that ;)

ooc: Nothing like wrapping it up in under 2 hours IRL. That's even faster than some countries rebuilding from near total devastation.

ooc: Nothing like wrapping it up in under 2 hours IRL. That's even faster than some countries rebuilding from near total devastation.

There's always tomorrow night. =oo=

Gdodad scared me?

...

Are you sure? I dont remember that ;)

Feh.

I'd say 'exception that proves the rule' but it's a stupid saying.

Besides, I don't remember seeing you around very often back in '03. I think you're more active now than you were then, though that could be because I never spent much time in II.

And we must remember that I was much smaller than you, so I interacted with smaller nations at the time. So my image of what that time was like is probably skewed towards that viewpoint.

and submitted every member of their government and armed forces to an international war crimes tribunal

Woah, those are some real harsh terms.

Feh.

I'd say 'exception that proves the rule' but it's a stupid saying.

Besides, I don't remember seeing you around very often back in '03. I think you're more active now than you were then, though that could be because I never spent much time in II.

And we must remember that I was much smaller than you, so I interacted with smaller nations at the time. So my image of what that time was like is probably skewed towards that viewpoint.

Well, 04 was my hay-day, but I was fairly involved in 03. Amerigo, demoness lost princess, etc. You probably just didn't pay attention to me because I was an even worse roleplayer then ;)

I remember Amerigo. I remember piledriving him and eventually everybody glassed him, but I can't remember why.

Yeah, I probably didn't take much note except for 'Wow, another 2002 nation! They're so much bigger than me it's not even funny!'

Is it just me, or are there a lot of 'reminiscing' threads around today?

I can't belive British Londinium has tried to fight us, it was very foolish.

Is it just me, or are there a lot of 'reminiscing' threads around today?

It's not just you... you seem to have been a bad influence on all the other old-timers who decided to come back just to reminisce about old times and make us n00bs feel small and clueless again, I guess. ;)

I can't belive British Londinium has tried to fight us, it was very foolish.
... Not really, he just missed Whyatica's post with the peace terms due to all the other OOC clogging the main thread. Another thing that would never happen in real life.

It's not just you... you seem to have been a bad influence on all the other old-timers who decided to come back just to reminisce about old times and make us n00bs feel small and clueless again, I guess. ;)

Aw, shucks.

The funny thing is, to me everyone from June 2003 on is a new player, even if they're bigger than me now. Doesn't make you noobs though. All these big players (Post-May 2003) that everyone's so scared of now? I was there when they were created. I remember when they started. For some of them, I even remember their very first RPs, and they were ones that I joined as an already-established RPer. Man, it's crazy thinking back on it with the retrospect I have now.

I'd tell myself to make my posts longer, flesh them out, put some detail. Looking back, almost all my posts were, well, shit.

Clandonia Prime, how does it feel to kill children?

Why is mixing tech levels a problem? If I want to meet someone's fleet of flying stealth tanks with my legions of arbalests and javelins, why not? If the other guy doesn't like it, he doesn't have to RP with me.

After all, Poland defended against the Blitzkrieg with horse cavalry...

Clandonia Prime, how does it feel to kill children?

I'm not CP, but just to let you know, it feels pretty good.

Why is mixing tech levels a problem? If I want to meet someone's fleet of flying stealth tanks with my legions of arbalests and javelins, why not? If the other guy doesn't like it, he doesn't have to RP with me.

After all, Poland defended against the Blitzkrieg with horse cavalry...

Poland also had tanks, and Germany also used horses.

There's a big difference between having worse tech in the same period, and things from an entirely different tech. Though, of course, if both agree on it, there's no problem. This is free-form.

Clandonia Prime, how does it feel to kill children?

We feel no remorse, its the Clandonian way we have killed thousands more than we just did in that attack in Sovistan and Naasha in the old days.

In Naasha my military killed close to a quarter of a million.

Guys, seriously. If you want to throw a war, at least agree what technological period to work with. British Londinium and I were both using future tech (it was certainly his right, as he is the defender and should have a say in what type of technology his forces are using) ... and I'm not sure what everyone else was dealing with.

So, it's okay for CP to kill children, but when I do it, it gets condemned?

So, it's okay for CP to kill children, but when I do it, it gets condemned?

Yes because I didn't mean to kill them, your leader took pleasure in raping them then putting them in giant blenders.

A note: I did say in my first post that any forces attacking BL that caused collateral damage to civilians would have to answer to us afterwards, which probably means a strongly-worded IC letter unless you start getting excessive. I'll write one to CP when I get around to it.

No, no. That's different. I had them shot by firing squad. The President raped a teddy bear. And blender is the standard method of execution in British Londinium.

Why is mixing tech levels a problem? If I want to meet someone's fleet of flying stealth tanks with my legions of arbalests and javelins, why not? If the other guy doesn't like it, he doesn't have to RP with me.

After all, Poland defended against the Blitzkrieg with horse cavalry...

Chellis gave a pretty good answer so I'm just expanding on it a little. Role play does come down to collaboration so if you are okay with bringing in different tech to make a story, then more power to you. I think what irks people though is that the degree of tech difference is what matters. Different techs can interact, of course (had a great rp with Scolopendra a long time back) but to think that a nation that enjoys a huge tech gap (and I'm including here industrial base, economic output, etc...) over another can't win in a military confrontation must have Pakleds for generals or the inferior tech nation has some kind of magic crystal to even the balance. The old argument of "an arrow can kill you just as easily as a pulse rifle" is true to some degree, but usually, not always, a higher tech soldier has better odds at surviving - on average. I would be mad if my nation Vrak (at the best, some aspects are "PMT") to fight Scolopendra (quite advanced "FT").

Then again, it is free form and if a story that weaves them together carefully takes into account things like weaknesses, terrain, motivation, etc... then certainly it can work. For me, I try hard not to look at someone's tech level before interacting with them, but I do like to hash some things out oocly if tech starts to become a problem. That is, when it seems someone is pulling out the tech wank to achieve a "victory" then it isn't as much fun as it could be. I don't mind losing at all, but I don't like to lose in a cheap fashion.

Sorry for going off topic in this thread.

South Lizasauria, you could provide aid in terms of food for their people when we occupy him otherwise the thread is closed to new military action.

Question of the hour: is the war on or off?

I see British Londinium surrendering, and then Clandonia Prime refers to opening another front in the war.

It's these sorts of problems that are making this an extremely complicated war to follow, let alone stay part of.

Question of the hour: is the war on or off?

I see British Londinium surrendering, and then Clandonia Prime refers to opening another front in the war.

It's these sorts of problems that are making this an extremely complicated war to follow, let alone stay part of.

He says he surrenders, then he says the wars on, then he threatens to nuke us, then he surrenders. As far as I see it the war is on and the occupation will go ahead, his government is obviously in its dieing days of unstable, mentally challenged tin pot dictatorship. As such it will no longer be rational and its unlikely the government wont be in control of the armed forces.

There's no way I'm losing my military. If that's the case, then I might as well nuke you people now. I'm willing to surrender and follow the previously agreed upon treaty. The only reason why I violated it is because of all the OOC crap that prevented me from reading the clause stating that the previous government members could not run for the Presidency again.

He says he surrenders, then he says the wars on, then he threatens to nuke us, then he surrenders. As far as I see it the war is on and the occupation will go ahead, his government is obviously in its dieing days of unstable, mentally challenged tin pot dictatorship. As such it will no longer be rational and its unlikely the government wont be in control of the armed forces.

The constant switching is starting to irk me: I came in under the assumption that the war was going on. Lo and behold though; just as I'm about to post something about evacuating President Swanner and his staff aboard the Berwick, he posts about them being brought back.

Please, for all of our sanities just pick a status.

There's no way I'm losing my military. If that's the case, then I might as well nuke you people now. I'm willing to surrender and follow the previously agreed upon treaty. The only reason why I violated it is because of all the OOC crap that prevented me from reading the clause stating that the previous government members could not run for the Presidency again.

EDIT: If you're surrendering now, does this mean the government-in-exile deal is back on, or is it cancelled?

I picked a status. I really don't want a war.

Well, the question now is what to do. For starters, I know that British Londinium and I are operating future tech. What is everyone else using?

And British Londinium, are we still going ahead with the government-in-exile business, or is that being scrubbed?

Then unconditionally surrender, let us occupy your country to ensure that your elections are democratic, stop people being raped and blended and install a friendly Sovereign League government so you wont go being a naughty boy again.

Plus leave the CA and EVIL.

Scrubbed. Thanks for the help though.

Then unconditionally surrender, let us occupy your country to ensure that your elections are democratic, stop people being raped and blended and install a friendly Sovereign League government so you wont go being a naughty boy again.

Plus leave the CA and EVIL.

I have!

Then unconditionally surrender, let us occupy your country to ensure that your elections are democratic, stop people being raped and blended and install a friendly Sovereign League government so you wont go being a naughty boy again.

Plus leave the CA and EVIL.

Now that BL has started an entirely different war, now may I go along?

No Laquasa... I dont think you get it. You can not invade anyone, ever again. You cannot ignore an invasion, then once everyone else invades somebody, try to jump in. If you want to invade him, and it is recognized, im invading you.

*Hears someone try to provoke someone, carries on*

If even one Laquasan soldier comes into my nation, I will redefine misery when I turn your nation into radioactive plate glass, then nuke the plate glass.

And I will turn your nation into a lump of glowing, radioactive anthrax.

I'd like to see you try...oh, wait! You've been ignored!

In summary:

You aren't invading me
You can't have radioactive anthrax - the radioactivity would kill the anthrax.
I can turn countries into radioactive plate glass, but I don't because I'm a nice guy.

Laquasa Isle, you are on my invasion list as the next one you know. Your womenfolk we make fine prostitutes.

When is the peace treaty going to be up so I can go back to normal RP?

Half the people here act like they're Automagfreek.


And CP, aren't you being invaded?

*contributes*

Half the people here act like they're Automagfreek.


And CP, aren't you being invaded?

*contributes*

No I'm free now, you however will be not if you keep flashing your little defence budget around.

No I'm free now, you however will be not if you keep flashing your little defence budget around.

Speak for yourself. Engaging in actions like this may put you out of favour with the Sovereign League, and look what happened the last time you did so fall.

Speak for yourself. Engaging in actions like this may put you out of favour with the Sovereign League, and look what happened the last time you did so fall.

I'm not really going to do it, its just hes an idiot thinking he can try and muscle in peoples wars when he himself refused an invasion of his homeland after he committed terrorist attacks.

A very poor sport and a bad RP'er.

Speaking of which Czardas, I applied. Am I in?

Laquasa Isle, shut the fuck up and stop spamming. I've had it with you throwing around your stupid defence budget to compensate [avoids bad cliché involving penises] for your terrible RPing skills. You can't invade, end of story, so stop posting in this thread.


Now, when is the peace treaty going to be available for ratification?

Speaking of which Czardas, I applied. Am I in?

You'll have to ask Praetonia, although I believe there have been several objections from member nations already.

Right. I more or less just got up, and I have no idea whats going down and I'm really confused.;_; Can someone gimme the low down?

[So you're not going to recognize my statement because I did not call your nation by its full and proper name? First time ive ever heard that one.]

No... I'm just saying to edit it so it makes sense in context for lo, TIOR isn't going to reply to a thing directed to Rosanica. Even more confusing is that you called us puny ICly and TIOR would be confused. I know it seems confusing I just want you to make the IC post to make more sense to TIOR.

Does that make sense?

So which are you? And which one said the statement that I responded to? I am quite confused. I called the people of whomever stated that 'EVIL consists of cowards', weak, never said a word about any nation being puny. Anyways... since both nations seem to have the same name (which I thought was immpossible) I dont know who to respond to.

So which are you? And which one said the statement that I responded to? I am quite confused. I called the people of whomever stated that 'EVIL consists of cowards', weak, never said a word about any nation being puny. Anyways... since both nations seem to have the same name (which I thought was immpossible) I dont know who to respond to.

I am using Rosanica to post as TIOR since I changed TIOR's email but I never got the confirmation so I have to use this puppet to post as TIOR so ICly I use TIOR and stuff. Confusing I know but meh. Anywho it was my mistake, I misread your post.

Obviously everything got lost in translation.

So I assume you want me to reply now that this matter is over? XD

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12152010#post12152010

^ If you wanna continue this Kroando, there ya go :)

[So you're not going to recognize my statement because I did not call your nation by its full and proper name? First time ive ever heard that one.]

OOC: No, The Island of Rose does not equal Rosanica. It only takes common sense to realize that addressing a message to 'Canada', when you want it to reach the 'United States of America', probably will result in America not responding nor even receiving your message. (Quite a bungle if you message also contained top secret information, and an embarrassment at best.)

But, if you can handle that embarrassment... *shrug*

Copy and Pasted into the OOC thread.

If you want to use the 'USA' and 'Canada' analogy, then lets straighten it out a bit. If the Canadian Prime Minister is speaking for the United States, and you send a message to Canada, thinking that the Canadian PM is speaking for Canada... try not to make such drastic exaggerations when comparing situations...

But anyways, I believe that it is over.

If you want to use the 'USA' and 'Canada' analogy, then lets straighten it out a bit. If the Canadian Prime Minister is speaking for the United States, and you send a message to Canada, thinking that the Canadian PM is speaking for Canada... try not to make such drastic exaggerations when comparing situations...

But anyways, I believe that it is over.

Well, if in that case, its still your fault for not reading it properly. But I must digress, it is over. :p

OOC:I've been gone since 11 AM my time - I'm confused, so I'm going to work out what I'm going to do. Basically, FT stuff in this thread is a no-no, given that most of us are MT/PMT here with a totally separate FT entity. I'm ignoring all the FT matters in this thread. Next: This matter between Kroando and TIOR went to a separate thread, thank god.

Here's what I believe to happen, in order.

Whyatica declares war on BL, allies follow suit.
British Londinium surrenders.
Allanea and Whyatica lay down terms
British Londinium agrees, holds an election
**IMPORTANT** The first election with Swanner was RETCONNED. It was an honest OOC mistake, so the new election with whatshisface went through, and there wasnt any breaking of the peace treaty.
Whyatican troops march into Kensington to restore order after the Clandonians attack, and also to deliver a formal peace treaty.

And that's where we are now!

With all the crazy things in BL, we suggest destroying his nukes and prohibit him from making more.

I could still kick your ass, Laquasa. And I've talked to Whyatica: my military isn't going to be hindered or reduced or placed on any restrictions.

Would there be any objections to speeding up the pace of the thread? It's going quite slowly...

With all the crazy things in BL, we suggest destroying his nukes and prohibit him from making more.

I could put the same argument up for you, Laquasa Isle, Nova Aquaria, and Aqua Anu. Just making a point.

I could put the same argument up for you, Laquasa Isle, Nova Aquaria, and Aqua Anu. Just making a point.

I'm glad somone else has noticed that as well.

I'm glad somone else has noticed that as well.

No kidding. Would it be okay if some officials from my British Londinian embassy got involved in all this?

And NB and BL have vowels in their names! They must be the same person!

You have no backing that we're the same person.



Lu-Quay-suh

Oh, and BL- Even tracker says I have more funding than you now.

Oh, and NB and BL seem to appear and leave at the same time.

So? I could still beat you, Laquasa.

So? I could still beat you, Laquasa.

The only thing you have over me is manpower, and even then those troops will not be well trained or well armed.

I only have 600,500 troops in my army, so my troops would be very well trained. I have approximately the same numbers and equipment as the American military, with more funding.

Less.

About 275 billion USD.


Let's stop arguing this in here, okay?

How about you learnt basic arithmetic and reading?

Whyatica, TGs.

Dephire there is an OOC thread, delete your posts as they are marked as a blurred line of both IC and OOC which is anoying, you will be ignored if you carry on doing this.

If you read my second to last post at all, it had IC in it. The last part was just verifying.;)

Delphire, if you're looking for a response from the Eurasian government, it won't come, since the Coalition has my government under a de facto arrest.

Whyatica talked to me yesterday, I'll be joining the RP.


We Buy It Inc. Security Forces

Fouth Battle Fleet

3x 'Hyperion'-Class Trimaran Assualt Dreadnought (ADN)
6x 'Majestic'-Class Trimaran Hyper Carrier (CVAN)
10x Ravager-Class Trimaran Dreadnought (DN)
10x 'Invulnerable'-Class Trimaran Fleet Carrier (CVN)
60x 'Spiritus Dei'-Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser (CAN)
60x 'Shalrirorchia'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Cruiser (CGN)
72x 'Comberth'-Class Trimaran Heavy Destroyer (DAN)
72x 'Union'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyer (DGN)
60x 'Swordfish'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate (FG)
60x 'Dolphin'-Class Trimaran ASW Frigates (FASW)
120x 'Poseidon'-Class Heavy Attack Submarine (SSAN)
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533 x Combat Ships
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These fleets are usually accompanied by:

2x Pasteur-class hospital ships (HS)
8x Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (MSL)
20x Endeavour-class Large Combat Transport Ship (CTSA)
20x General Marsden-class AP
20x Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (RO/RO CV)
20x Quay-class amphibious assault and replenishment vessels (LHR)
20x Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (FATV)
10x Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (ST)
30x Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (FRV)
10x Peligro-class amphibious assault ship (AAS)
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160x Total Ships
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Air Wing for a Battle Fleet

3x 'Hyperion'-Class Trimaran Assualt Dreadnaught (ADN)-Fighters: 72x F-8B; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33s, 12x SH-4
6x 'Majestic'-Class Trimaran Hyper Carrier (CVAN)-Fighters: 228x F-8B, 60x F-7N1, 60x FB-177A; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33As, 12x SH-4; 4x AWACs; 4x Tankers
10x 'Invulnerable'-Class Trimaran Fleet Carrier (CVN)-Fighters: 120x F-8B, 36x F-7N1, 36x FB-177A; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33As, 12x SH-4, 2x AWACs, 2x Tankers
10x Ravager-Class Trimaran Dreadnaught (DN)-Fighters: 12x F-8B; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33As, 8x SH-4
60x 'Spiritus Dei'-Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser(CAN)-Fighters 4x F-5B; Helicopters: 2x SAH-33s, 2x SH-4
60x 'Shalrirorchia'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Cruiser (CGN)-Helicopters: 2x SAH-33s, 2x SH-4
72x 'Comberth'-Class Trimaran Heavy Destroyer (DAN)-Helicopters: 2 SH-4
72x 'Union'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyer (DGN)-Helicopters: 2 SH-4
60x 'Swordfish'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate (FG)-Helicopters: 1 SH-4
60x 'Dolphin'-Class Trimaran ASW Frigates (FASW)-Helicopters: 1x SH-4
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Total Fighters: 2904x F-8B, 720x F-7N1, 240x F-5B, 720x FB-177As
Total Helicopters: 588x SAH-33s; 932x SH-4
Total Other: 40x EV-22C, 40x Tankers
Total: 6184x Aerial Assets


Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Security Corps
----------Fast Reaction Theater Force 284,700 Men
---------Corps: 94,900 Men x3
--------Division: 18,980 Men x5
[Division is made of: Armored Brigade x2, Mechanized Brigade x2, Airborne Brigade x1, Artillery Brigade x1, Support Brigade x1, Air Defence Brigade x1]

-------Armored Brigade: 2,600 men
200x M160A2 'Phoenix' Main Battle Tanks 800 men
100x M260A1 'Valkyrie' Infantry Fighting Vehicle 900 men
100x M260A2 'Valkyrie' Cavalry Fighting Vehicle 900 men

----Mechanized Brigade: 3,150 men
100x M260A1 'Valkyrie' Infantry Fighting Vehicle 900 men
100x M260A2 'Valkyrie' Cavalry Fighting Vehicle 900 men
150x LV-08 'Raptor' Armored Patrol/Light Truck 1,350 men

----Airborne Brigade 1,900
80x SAH-33 "Peregrine" Next Gen. Attack Helicopter 160 men
20x UH-90 "Rabbit" Medium Utility Helicopter 420 men
20x CH-100 "Sergeant" Large Transport Helicopter 1180 men
40x LV-08 "Raptor" Armored Patrol/Light Truck 360 men

----Artillery Brigade: 2,020 men
100x "Corbulo" Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun 200 men
100x Multiple Launch Rocket System, Mark I, "Fire Arrow" 200 men
60x Self-Propelled Howitzer, Mark VII, "Broadsword" 180 men
140x Artillery Support Vehicle, Mark I, "Mule" 1,120 men

----Support Brigade: 2680 men
40x Armoured Vehicle Launched Bridge, Mark II, "Alligator" 80 men
60x Combat Engineer Vehicle, Mark III, "Stallion" 240 men
40x Armoured Repair/Recovery Vehicle, Mark I, "Hercules" 120 men
320x M2A0 Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicle AMEV 640 men
160x M1070/1000 Heavy Equipment Transporter System (HETS) 320 men
320x M1074/1075 Palletized Load System 640 men
320x M1120 HEMTT 640 men

----Air Defence Brigade: 880 men
100x M165 "Aegis" Air Defence Vehicle 400 men
20x M601 "Zeus" Transporter-Erector-Launcher and Radar (TELAR) 80 men
40x M602 "Hornet" Transporter-Erector-Launcher and Radar (TELAR) 160 men
80x M603 "Wasp" Transporter-Erector-Launcher and Radar (TELAR) 240 men

4th Air Security Force
-----Air Force (AF)(2,326 Planes) Personal: 8,120

----Air Superiority Fighter Group (1152 F/A-6D) Personal: 2304
----Fighter Bomber Group (216 FB-177As) Personal: 432
----Close Air Support Group (128 A-102Cs) Personal 128
----Bomber Group (96 B-300Cs, 96 B-5, 48 SB-22) Personal: 816
----Transport Group (48 C-1s, 48 C-115s) Personal: 624
----Attack Helicopter Group (96 SAH-33As) Personal: 192
----VTOL Transport Group (96 MV-87Ks; 96 CH-100) Personal: 1056
----Combat Information Control Group (16 E-128A; 16 E-128G) Personal: 1632
----Refueling Group (48 KC-1s) Personal: 288

************************************************

Skyian Military Troops

Skyian First, Second, and Third Naval Fleets

[Forces below plus two 'Kraken'-Class Siege Dreadnoughts]

3x 'Hyperion'-Class Trimaran Assualt Dreadnought (ADN)
6x 'Majestic'-Class Trimaran Hyper Carrier (CVAN)
10x Ravager-Class Trimaran Dreadnought (DN)
10x 'Invulnerable'-Class Trimaran Fleet Carrier (CVN)
72x 'Spiritus Dei'-Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser (CAN)
72x 'Shalrirorchia'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Cruiser (CGN)
84x 'Comberth'-Class Trimaran Heavy Destroyer (DAN)
84x 'Union'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyer (DGN)
72x 'Swordfish'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate (FG)
72x 'Dolphin'-Class Trimaran ASW Frigates (FASW)
120x 'Poseidon'-Class Heavy Attack Submarine (SSAN)
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605 x Ships per fleet x3
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These fleets are usually accompanied by:

2x Pasteur-class hospital ships (HS)
8x Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (MSL)
20x Endeavour-class Large Combat Transport Ship (CTSA)
20x General Marsden-class AP
20x Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (RO/RO CV)
20x Quay-class amphibious assault and replenishment vessels (LHR)
20x Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (FATV)
10x Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (ST)
30x Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (FRV)
10x Peligro-class amphibious assault ship (AAS)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
160x Total Ships
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Air Wing for a Naval Fleet

3x 'Hyperion'-Class Trimaran Assualt Dreadnaught (ADN)-Fighters: 72x F-8B; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33s, 12x SH-4
6x 'Majestic'-Class Trimaran Hyper Carrier (CVAN)-Fighters: 228x F-8B, 60x F-7N1, 60x FB-177A; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33As, 12x SH-4; 4x AWACs; 4x Tankers
10x 'Invulnerable'-Class Trimaran Fleet Carrier (CVN)-Fighters: 120x F-8B, 36x F-7N1, 36x FB-177A; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33As, 12x SH-4, 2x AWACs, 2x Tankers
10x Ravager-Class Trimaran Dreadnaught (DN)-Fighters: 12x F-8B; Helicopters: 12x SAH-33As, 8x SH-4
72x 'Spiritus Dei'-Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser(CAN)-Fighters 4x F-5B; Helicopters: 2x SAH-33s, 2x SH-4
72x 'Shalrirorchia'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Cruiser (CGN)-Helicopters: 2x SAH-33s, 2x SH-4
84x 'Comberth'-Class Trimaran Heavy Destroyer (DAN)-Helicopters: 2 SH-4
84x 'Union'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyer (DGN)-Helicopters: 2 SH-4
72x 'Swordfish'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate (FG)-Helicopters: 1 SH-4
72x 'Dolphin'-Class Trimaran ASW Frigates (FASW)-Helicopters: 1x SH-4
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Total Fighters: 2904x F-8B, 720x F-7N1, 288x F-5B, 720x FB-177As
Total Helicopters: 636x SAH-33s; 1052x SH-4
Total Other: 40x EV-22C, 40x Tankers
Total: 6400x Aerial Assets x3

First Marine Field Army
-----------Theater Force 949,000 Men
----------Field Army 474,500 Men x2
---------Corps: 94,900 Men x5
--------Division: 18,980 Men x5
[Division is made of: Armored Brigade x2, Mechanized Brigade x2, Airborne Brigade x1, Artillery Brigade x1, Support Brigade x1, Air Defence Brigade x1]

-------Armored Brigade: 2,600 men
200x M160A2 'Phoenix' Main Battle Tanks 800 men
100x M260A1 'Valkyrie' Infantry Fighting Vehicle 900 men
100x M260A2 'Valkyrie' Cavalry Fighting Vehicle 900 men

----Mechanized Brigade: 3,150 men
100x M260A1 'Valkyrie' Infantry Fighting Vehicle 900 men
100x M260A2 'Valkyrie' Cavalry Fighting Vehicle 900 men
150x LV-08 'Raptor' Armored Patrol/Light Truck 1,350 men

----Airborne Brigade 1,900
80x SAH-33 "Peregrine" Next Gen. Attack Helicopter 160 men
20x UH-90 "Rabbit" Medium Utility Helicopter 420 men
20x CH-100 "Sergeant" Large Transport Helicopter 1180 men
40x LV-08 "Raptor" Armored Patrol/Light Truck 360 men

----Artillery Brigade: 2,020 men
100x "Corbulo" Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun 200 men
100x Multiple Launch Rocket System, Mark I, "Fire Arrow" 200 men
60x Self-Propelled Howitzer, Mark VII, "Broadsword" 180 men
140x Artillery Support Vehicle, Mark I, "Mule" 1,120 men

----Support Brigade: 2680 men
40x Armoured Vehicle Launched Bridge, Mark II, "Alligator" 80 men
60x Combat Engineer Vehicle, Mark III, "Stallion" 240 men
40x Armoured Repair/Recovery Vehicle, Mark I, "Hercules" 120 men
320x M2A0 Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicle AMEV 640 men
160x M1070/1000 Heavy Equipment Transporter System (HETS) 320 men
320x M1074/1075 Palletized Load System 640 men
320x M1120 HEMTT 640 men

----Air Defence Brigade: 880 men
100x M165 "Aegis" Air Defence Vehicle 400 men
20x M601 "Zeus" Transporter-Erector-Launcher and Radar (TELAR) 80 men
40x M602 "Hornet" Transporter-Erector-Launcher and Radar (TELAR) 160 men
80x M603 "Wasp" Transporter-Erector-Launcher and Radar (TELAR) 240 men

FirstTactical Air Armada
------Tactical Air Armada (TAA)(9,304 Planes) Personal: 32,480
-----Air Force (AF)(2,326 Planes) Personal: 8,120 x4

----Air Superiority Fighter Group (1152 F/A-6D) Personal: 2304
----Fighter Bomber Group (216 FB-177As) Personal: 432
----Multi-Role Group (216 F-7A) Personal: 216
----Close Air Support Group (128 A-102Cs) Personal 128
----Bomber Group (96 B-300Cs, 96 B-5, 48 SB-22) Personal: 816
----Transport Group (48 C-1s, 48 C-115s) Personal: 624
----Attack Helicopter Group (96 SAH-33As) Personal: 192
----VTOL Transport Group (96 MV-87Ks; 96 CH-100) Personal: 1056
----Combat Information Control Group (16 E-128A; 16 E-128G) Personal: 1632
----Refueling Group (48 KC-1s) Personal: 288

Great...more dogpiling...

Lulz.

Anywho... Can anyone be nice enough to give me a quick rundown of what I've missed? I can at least say I finally finished my term paper. :p Six pages of goodness on the prophet of Islam.

I'll be on IRC later for further coordination... And stuff.

Well, my government was deposed, my nation annexed, massive riots, riots put down, civilian protests, civilian protests go bad, thousands die, armed insurrection.

K.

So, for my message to get to you...I would have to literally storm my way through the Coalition forces to help assist your citizens, BL?

Probably.

Probably.

Hmm.
At first, this war seemed to have it's truths, but now that it has grown to the extent of [intentional] civilian casualties. I'll have to side with BL. However, my involvement will be very slight...at the beginning.

Hmm.
At first, this war seemed to have it's truths, but now that it has grown to the extent of [intentional] civilian casualties.

That tends to happen you obliterate a country with a nuclear barrage, especially if it's retalitory. Or however you spell it.

Though yes, things have become a bit exaggerated XD

That tends to happen you obliterate a country with a nuclear barrage, especially if it's retalitory. Or however you spell it.

Though yes, things have become a bit exaggerated XD

Agreed.
As everyone should realise by now, I am a new member of the Corporate Alliance, but conflicting with my CA affiliation is that of the ADAN. I created the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations to end Oppression.