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Dude, I will fight you. One-on-one if you want. I will use all the troops I have that are currently in the IFE. We need you to supply a map, and will request that we have the ability to slaughter 1/3 of your population, then leaving. We will, if you request, occupy your nation until it is economically fit after the war. Or, I could lose the war, but take a total of twenty million citizens and ten million troops down with me. I will loose a total of eight million troops and a large number of tanks.

If you accept the Internation Community will look upon you as a member once again. This thread is not for Laguasa, it is for all of us. We need you to promise that if he fights me on these terms, or similiar that you all will accept him once again.

-The man behind the Socialist Militaristic Empire of Latica

Bump, for the sake of war, and oddly enough... peace.

Just you fighting, Latica? I want to invade him as well; besides, ICly, I can't let his attack go unpunished. I would really like to go in, blow up some schools, kill a few million, invade the capital, execute the leader, and then leave.

Latica, this whole thing was a big flop. If BL still wants his war, we can have it. It was supposed to be CLOSED.


Anyway I thought we were allies...?

Well if we DID have war, I don't like drawing out story lines. How about you try and invade me? It would be a pretty even fight. I'd let you take a few million, but taking 1/3 via invasion? It's just unlikely. Do you know of anywhere I can make a map online? Whenever I make a map, and save it, it goes down as 119 MB. Quite a file to upload. I have one giant, 10 million square mile Island, and then several others around it, mostly isles full of oil. I have almost exactly the same budget as you and more than BL (though he denies this).


If BL is stubborn and just WON'T have a closed war, I'll fight you.

But aren't we friends? We don't we come out of the war friends, like the opposite of what happened between the USSR and the USA after WWII? (Lots of abbr. in that sentence, lol :) )

I dont see why you are so pressed about having a 1v1 closed war with BL. You attacked E.V.I.L., and now you refuse to fight the force they want to attack you with. I will admit the last thread was awful rushed and unorganized, but that is no reason to ignore a war you clearly provoked. If you want to be awknowledged as an RP'er, you need to fight anyone that declares war on you, and stop screaming the word, 'Mod', for you obviously do not know what it means. I attacked you with 300,000 troops... you ignore me. The conflict I have with you has nothing to do with BL, or anyone else, I am invading you, yet you call me a godmodder and ignore me for not having a reason... There is an understanding that by doing so, all RP'ers will now ignore you. Have fun with that.

I dont see why you are so pressed about having a 1v1 closed war with BL. You attacked E.V.I.L., and now you refuse to fight the force they want to attack you with. I will admit the last thread was awful rushed and unorganized, but that is no reason to ignore a war you clearly provoked. If you want to be awknowledged as an RP'er, you need to fight anyone that declares war on you, and stop screaming the word, 'Mod', for you obviously do not know what it means. I attacked you with 300,000 troops... you ignore me. The conflict I have with you has nothing to do with BL, or anyone else, I am invading you, yet you call me a godmodder and ignore me for not having a reason... There is an understanding that by doing so, all RP'ers will now ignore you. Have fun with that.

I did not freaking attack EVIL. It was a CLOSED war. No interference.

I did not freaking attack EVIL. It was a CLOSED war. No interference.

Actually you attacked EVIL. By striking BL on his territory, used terror attacks to destroy him. BL is part of EVIL, and all countries in EVIL are part of EVIL. Thus, you attacked EVIL. What's more, no were in the Cold War thread did it say it was closed.

Laquasa Isle, you attack one, you attack them collectively its how alliances work. Now you might as well go down swining, I got invaded by several larger powers and I didn't spit by dummy out.

Learn to be a sport or you will be officially ignored by everyone.

Actually you attacked EVIL. By striking BL on his territory, used terror attacks to destroy him. BL is part of EVIL, and all countries in EVIL are part of EVIL. Thus, you attacked EVIL. What's more, no were in the Cold War thread did it say it was closed.

Actually, BL had me thinking that that thread would lead to a CLOSED War thread.

Okay Latica, I've decided to accept.

You may make the thread at your leisure.

Actually, BL had me thinking that that thread would lead to a CLOSED War thread.

Did he say anywhere that the war would be closed? Or did you just asume that's what he meant?

The Incorporated States of British Londinium
Received: 4 days ago

I have an idea. Since we both obviously hate each other, why not have a war? Closed, no alliance members allowed to intervene, and we each get one ally. And no nuclear weapons. What do you think?

OOC: Hmm. I did say that, I'll grant you that. But I made my expansion thread in response to your crude cold-war thread, which I didn't percieve to be related.

What does an arm race between equally matched nations usually lead to?

What does an arm race between equally matched nations usually lead to?

Well in RL it lead to the "peaceful" destruction of a nation. It certainly didn't lead to all out war.

Key word their is, "usually", NS is anything but "usual", bro.

I have almost exactly the same budget as you and more than BL (though he denies this).

OOC: Listen, NSEconomy states I have a defence budget of 495 billion USD. It also states that you have a defence budget of 375 billion USD. Now, I'm not a math person, but I think I have 120 billion more dollars in defence than you do.

OOC: Listen, NSEconomy states I have a defence budget of 495 billion USD. It also states that you have a defence budget of 375 billion USD. Now, I'm not a math person, but I think I have 120 billion more dollars in defence than you do.

OCC: Not to mention 300 million more people. But if he was smart, it could be even:)

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=clandonia_prime&nation2=British+Londinium&nation3=Laquasa+Isle&nation4=&nation5=&nation6=

BL is indeed correct.

See my logic. His money (Cicero) is worth 1 USD for every 2 of his money.


Let's say he has 12 ciceros.

C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C

He gets 1 dollar for every 3 Ciceros.

3 C's = 1 USD

C
C
C
C D
C D
C D


So, divide his by two.

My money, quasars, on the other hand, you get a dollar and a third for every one of my money.

Q D
Q D
Q D
D

So divide his defence budget, 500 billion, by two, you get about 250 billion.

Multiply mine by 1.3. You get about 500 billion.

You say you tracker is already in USD?

Nations who use Euros have the Euro sign.

Your tracker (NSeconomy) has the same numbers as those in NStracker, which uses your national currency.

So, my budget is 500 billion USD (also known as NS$) and yours is about 250 billion USD.

You will find this pretty much flawless. Okay, so I do have about twice as much defence money as you, with about 3 times less soldiers.

Not true. The symbol is the same for everyone. Example:http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?region=City_of_London&nation=wutlland. My friend uses Euros, still has the dollar sign.

And I only have 600,000 troops.

And, this is a very flimsy excuse to get more funding than I.

Except for everything on NSEconomy is in dollars. Hence, the dollar signs.

Well, on NStracker they do.


If the numbers are the same, the same logic applies. No matter what symbol you use. Results for defence budget of British Londinium:

NStracker
C$495,491,920,035.84 15%


NSeconomy
$495,491,920,035.84 15%



Same numbers. Same logic applies. I have more funding.

Flimsy excuse? Quite a firm argument in my opinion.

[Money and numbers are next to meaningless in NS Wars... I guarantee there are many RP'ers that could defeat any of us with half as many troops, and less money. This OOC dick-measuring-contest is getting really old... just fight.]

Except for everything on NSEconomy is in dollars. Hence, the dollar signs.

That symbol could be for any currency. And numbers are the same. I HAVE MORE FUNDING.

[Money and numbers are next to meaningless in NS Wars... I guarantee there are many RP'ers that could defeat any of us with half as many troops, and less money. This OOC dick-measuring-contest is getting really old... just fight.]

Really? I wonder why the numbers are the same as NStracker.

The symbol is just the most commonly used currency sign, therefor it is used most.

[Money and numbers are next to meaningless in NS Wars... I guarantee there are many RP'ers that could defeat any of us with half as many troops, and less money. This OOC dick-measuring-contest is getting really old... just fight.]

Well, this fight is based on money. See, same money + less stuff= better equipped military

Really? I wonder why the numbers are the same as NStracker.

The symbol is just the most commonly used currency sign, therefor it is used most.

All he is saying is that an Rper with superior equipment and tactics will win over an enemy that has more troops and more money.

[What I was actually saying was that I could beat him with less troops and inferior equipment... but since he cant own up to his actions and stop OOC'ly complaining... im just waiting for BL to kick his ass.]

Well, this fight is based on money. See, same money + less stuff= better equipped military

You know, ever since this war was suggested, all of my respect for you as an RPer has been dropped. Besides, most people don't statwank, which is what using NSEconomy of NSTracker in a war is. You want to get technical? You have more troops then him, correct? If so, then you have to pay more to feed them, give them ammunition, and cloth them. Not only that, but not all people in the army fight. You need people to treat wounds, give orders, etc. I could go on, but I wouln't. My message is, don't statwank.

Wait, he still wants to fight mano-a-mano against me only?

Defence budget dickwaving is stupid. I have three puppets that spend around $90 trillion on defence apiece. I've never used two of them for roleplay and the third maybe twice a year. And if I chose to restart with my smallest puppet, which has about 50 million people, I could potentially defeat Automagfreek if I RPed it correctly. Numbers mean shit on NS, and most people overinflate them anyway (like a nation of 500 million that claims 25 million combat troops, which means about 80-100 million logistical personnel minimum).

So I'd recommend that everyone quit this dickwaving over the defence budget business, as it really DOES NOT MATTER.

Wait, he still wants to fight mano-a-mano against me only?

Why did you think I wanted a cold war in the first place?

I don't know...to occupy your vast amounts of free time?

lol.