NationStates Jolt Archive


Assembly of the People Crushed By Imperial Forces (MT)

The Scandinvans
17-12-2006, 09:21
Imperial News Network (INN):

“Greeting people of the Glorious Empire,

Today a group that said they represented the common interests of the people was forcibly broken up, outlawed, and all the people involved arrested under the order of the Emperor and the House of Lords.

This came after they refused to vacate a palace of the Emperor, which they had occupied without consent and from recent analysis had ruined millions of dollars worth of artifacts and property. As well, in a number of places they attempted to gain access to the secure storerooms there which housed arms and gold bullion to which they hoped to use for insurgency. But, they in the end fell due to the Imperial Guard of that palace breaking through the barricades that had been set up and they subdued them without any deaths on both sides.

As for the people themselves they will be tried for trespassing, defying an Imperial decree, disturbing the peace, resisting arrest, and acts of terror. The trial itself will consist of the death sentence being a probable end as treason will be raised against them.”

In reality the dissidents had all been killed already either at the palace or having been shot by Imperial Guards shortly taking back the palace. As for the bodies they had all been disposed of and the people who would take the dissidents places in the trial were going to be replaced by enemies of the crown.

So then after two HOURS of the trail the judge sentenced them to death on the charge of treason. As well, all sympathizers caught at the seen of it were sentenced to ten years in prison.

Goals of the Assembly of the People:
1. Dissolve the House of Lords
2. Create a New House of Parliament
3. Make the Empire a Democracy
4. Give the Wealth of the Emperor and Nobility to the People
5. Overthrow all the Government
6. Make a Nation for the People
7. Install a Puppet Emperor
8. Execute all the Leaders of the Nobility and the Current Government

How to Achieve the Goals.:
1. Start a Revolution
2. Kill the Current Emperor by Poison
3. Bomb Important Places
4. Eliminate the Most Spoken Leaders of the Empire
5. Cause a Civil War
6. Supply Arms to the Different Sides in the Civil War
7. Gain Support of Major Military Forces
8. March into Valdra and Valgard
9. Cause Disarray in the Loyalists Forces by Killing all their Leaders
10. Destroy Last Remnants of the Major Loyalists Forces
Dyelli Beybi
17-12-2006, 09:33
Official Proclamation from the Royal Alliance, Dyelli Beybi

The Sovereign Nation of Dyelli Beybi wishes to absolutely condemn this Kangaroo court. The people's Revolution will be victorious and all that. Where are my trousers Hilda? Are you taking all this down?

-Dr Philius McDougal
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Scandinvans
17-12-2006, 18:26
Official Proclamation from the Royal Alliance, Dyelli Beybi

The Sovereign Nation of Dyelli Beybi wishes to absolutely condemn this Kangaroo court. The people's Revolution will be victorious and all that. Where are my trousers Hilda? Are you taking all this down?

-Dr Philius McDougal
Minister of Foreign AffairsMight we remind you that these people were requested by direct Imperial order to vacate the Emperor’s property, they resisted arrested, committed treason by planning to wage war against the rightful government, and many other crimes. As well, the Court was tried over by the common people who found the people overwhelmingly guilty as all the evidence had been presented and to that they admitted to all of this. Though, they are appealing to life imprisonment inside.

Signed,
Steward of the Emperor
Dyelli Beybi
17-12-2006, 19:27
Proclamation from the Offices of the Tzarina of Dyelli Beybi, Royal Alliance HQ, Christchurch

Rebellion against 'rightful Government' is the first sign that 'rightful Government' is perhaps not so rightful. The so called 'Emperor' of Dyelli Beybi claimed to have a 'rightful Government', yet now he will flee the State like a whipped dog.
A 'Court' that lasts two hours is scarcely worthy of the name 'Court'. The will of the people be done.

- Alexia ap Adam,
Tzarina of Dyelli Beybi
British Londinium
17-12-2006, 19:54
Announcement of the Royale Group

The Royale Group, plc. and all of its subsidaries condemn this violation of the people's rights. As a result, all distributation of Royale goods into the Scandinavian Empire.

Signed,
Hemali Batra, COO, Royale Group
Generic empire
17-12-2006, 20:12
Official Imperial Statement

The Empire extends its congratulations to the Scandinvan Government for refusing to bow to the whims of illegal dissent, and instead taking stern action. We denounce those who would condemn a government for fulfilling its duty to the people to preserve stability in the face of rebellious elements, and hope that in the future, citizens will think twice before wantonly violating the laws of their sovereign nation.
The Scandinvans
17-12-2006, 20:21
Proclamation from the Offices of the Tzarina of Dyelli Beybi, Royal Alliance HQ, Christchurch

Rebellion against 'rightful Government' is the first sign that 'rightful Government' is perhaps not so rightful. The so called 'Emperor' of Dyelli Beybi claimed to have a 'rightful Government', yet now he will flee the State like a whipped dog.
A 'Court' that lasts two hours is scarcely worthy of the name 'Court'. The will of the people be done.

- Alexia ap Adam,
Tzarina of Dyelli BeybiThe laws of our nation given is that a person who plans an act of war upon the nation and then takes the initiative to start their actions, which under our laws is treason of the highest degree. As well, our Emperors have long reigned as benign rulers to our people and the people themselves upon many occasions have voted in favor of the Emperor continuing to rule.
The Scandinvans
17-12-2006, 20:37
Announcement of the Royale Group

The Royale Group, plc. and all of its subsidaries condemn this violation of the people's rights. As a result, all distributation of Royale goods into the Scandinavian Empire.

Signed,
Hemali Batra, COO, Royale GroupIt was clearly not a violation of the people’s rights as they were holding up armed opposition to the greater good of the Empire. As well, there trail was held legally and was just ended early due to the evidence and the jury only meet for fifteen minutes and they did not request any more evidence to be presented so the trial was fair.
Commonalitarianism
17-12-2006, 20:43
There is such a thing as "Constitutional Monarchy", whereby the state leaders remain as symbols of the people, but the leadership of the Emperor remains symbolic. You mentioned have a house of lords, but never mentioned a "house of commons". There have been other instances where we have seen "terrorist attacks" by the common people to attack the Scandinvan monarchy.

Maybe, better outlets for the "commons" to balance the "lords" need to be considered. Historically, during the capitalist and pure corporate era, Constitutional Monarchy represented the highest standard of living and well being for the people of the world and created aspirations for the common man to reach toward. The only competing historical forces were the pure "corporate democracies," of United Confederation of America and Japonica.

We see this as more of an imbalance in the power structure of your country of which a small minority is seeking revolutionary change to redress wrongs long suppressed in the Scandinvan country.

Although we are a "Direct Democracy", it is ultimately the greater will of the people we seek. Not every country should follow the same government model, there are differences in the cultural will of the "people". We ask you to seek redress in better representing the "commons".

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch of the Commonalitarianism
The Scandinvans
17-12-2006, 21:02
Official Imperial Statement

The Empire extends its congratulations to the Scandinvan Government for refusing to bow to the whims of illegal dissent, and instead taking stern action. We denounce those who would condemn a government for fulfilling its duty to the people to preserve stability in the face of rebellious elements, and hope that in the future, citizens will think twice before wantonly violating the laws of their sovereign nation.We thank you for the support and we hope that you nation thrives for years to come.
Maraque
17-12-2006, 21:09
The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy is glad to see you didn't bow to these terrorists and are glad they have been sentenced in a fair and balanced court of the law.

Ministeress of State, Loren Hiles
Granate
17-12-2006, 22:49
Official Republican Monarchy Message to The Scandinvan Empire

We are glad to see that you did not negotiate with terrorists. We also glad to see that no people were killed in the fight. Rememeber, the Republican Monarchy will always supports it's allies. Especially those as close as The Scandinvan Empire.

Andrei Klienheart
King of the Republics.
Cotenshire
18-12-2006, 00:04
To the Steward of the Emperor of the Scandinvans,

We are glad that you have been able to contain this very disturbing event. It is the hope of His Majesty, the King, that these insurgents are brought to justice and that further uprisings are prevented.

His Majesty greatly admires the Emperor of the Scandinvans, as it is one of the few noble and prestigious monarchies left in the world. He therefore invites you to the Letasund Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511229), a conference which intends to set up an international organization which will prevent further rebellions such as the one you have recently experienced.

Signed,
Arthur Rockingham, Lord Chancellor
The Scandinvans
18-12-2006, 01:19
There is such a thing as "Constitutional Monarchy", whereby the state leaders remain as symbols of the people, but the leadership of the Emperor remains symbolic. You mentioned have a house of lords, but never mentioned a "house of commons". There have been other instances where we have seen "terrorist attacks" by the common people to attack the Scandinvan monarchy.

Maybe, better outlets for the "commons" to balance the "lords" need to be considered. Historically, during the capitalist and pure corporate era, Constitutional Monarchy represented the highest standard of living and well being for the people of the world and created aspirations for the common man to reach toward. The only competing historical forces were the pure "corporate democracies," of United Confederation of America and Japonica.

We see this as more of an imbalance in the power structure of your country of which a small minority is seeking revolutionary change to redress wrongs long suppressed in the Scandinvan country.

Although we are a "Direct Democracy", it is ultimately the greater will of the people we seek. Not every country should follow the same government model, there are differences in the cultural will of the "people". We ask you to seek redress in better representing the "commons".

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch of the CommonalitarianismWe do you thank you for taking a compromising position and for making a good statement. Though we wish to say you misunderstand our government as there is a balance made between Parliament and the House of Lords. As well, in the past a super majority of the citizens of the Empire have voted in favor of keeping the current system of government.
The Scandinvans
18-12-2006, 01:23
The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy is glad to see you didn't bow to these terrorists and are glad they have been sentenced in a fair and balanced court of the law.

Ministeress of State, Loren HilesThe Scandinvan Empire thanks its long time friend of Maraque for their support how we dealt with these fiends. As well, we wish to say that we are glad to be your friend and we hope that the relationship between our people continue to only improve.

Signed,
Emperor Olaf
The Scandinvans
18-12-2006, 01:34
Official Republican Monarchy Message to The Scandinvan Empire

We are glad to see that you did not negotiate with terrorists. We also glad to see that no people were killed in the fight. Rememeber, the Republican Monarchy will always supports it's allies. Especially those as close as The Scandinvan Empire.

Andrei Klienheart
King of the Republics.We thank you for your support and we wish to tell you as long as you remain our ally we fight to the end alongside you as brothers in arms. As well, we hope you prosper and grow till the end of times.

Signed,
Emperor Reginald
The Scandinvans
18-12-2006, 04:05
To the Steward of the Emperor of the Scandinvans,

We are glad that you have been able to contain this very disturbing event. It is the hope of His Majesty, the King, that these insurgents are brought to justice and that further uprisings are prevented.

His Majesty greatly admires the Emperor of the Scandinvans, as it is one of the few noble and prestigious monarchies left in the world. He therefore invites you to the Letasund Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511229), a conference which intends to set up an international organization which will prevent further rebellions such as the one you have recently experienced.

Signed,
Arthur Rockingham, Lord ChancellorWe have taken interest in the meeting and shall soon decide our position on it, but it is likely that we will send a representative to it.

Signed,
Steward of the Emperor
The Scandinvans
18-12-2006, 21:20
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The Scandinvans
19-12-2006, 04:46
bump for the heck of it
Commonalitarianism
19-12-2006, 12:59
Then we find this to be an unusual aberration. The major concerns we are facing is the desire to form a citizens assembly based on nonvoluntary inclusion. It has never been the desire for our own "citizens assembly" to foment violent revolution. We are a sea based country and did not start as a country with a monarchy, but rather were formed because historic forces pushed us out onto the ocean.

We see an unusual potential for conflict which we hadn't seen before. For the most part we are isolationist and idealistic. Nevertheless, that someone may have misused our governmental format disturbs us. I know others may have citizens assemblies, but these usually occur because of a voluntary desire for change within a parliamentary structure in advanced democracies like in Sweitzerland. Our government was shaped by the forces of history, not necessarily pure idealism.

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch of the Commonalitarianism

OOC: Here is a summary of what we are slightly based on:
http://www.sculptors.com/~salsbury/Oceana/
Maraque
19-12-2006, 18:58
OOC: Interesting. My country itself has an underwater city-state loosely based off that.
Kahanistan
19-12-2006, 19:24
DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Kahanistan believes that when the Government fails to secure the needs of the people, the people have the right to replace it with a superior form of government.

We view the official account of events with severe mistrust, coming as it does from a dictatorship. We condemn the use of capital charges against lawful or even disorderly protestors. The borders of the Soviet Republic are, as always, open to political dissidents from around the world.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Parsenna
19-12-2006, 20:55
From The Palace of the President, Rasenna Center, Empire of Parsenna: While Parsenna of course mourns any situation that provokes harsh action, and considers any course but reasoned argument to be a tragedy, we understand fully that the responsibilities of a government are to protect their citizens and the general peace and that these responsibilities can sometimes require decisive actions. We applaud the Scandinavian government's fearless defense of its people and society and see this as a warning to any terrorists who would cloak themselves in revolutionary colors to disguise their crimes.
The Scandinvans
22-12-2006, 04:33
Then we find this to be an unusual aberration. The major concerns we are facing is the desire to form a citizens assembly based on nonvoluntary inclusion. It has never been the desire for our own "citizens assembly" to foment violent revolution. We are a sea based country and did not start as a country with a monarchy, but rather were formed because historic forces pushed us out onto the ocean.

We see an unusual potential for conflict which we hadn't seen before. For the most part we are isolationist and idealistic. Nevertheless, that someone may have misused our governmental format disturbs us. I know others may have citizens assemblies, but these usually occur because of a voluntary desire for change within a parliamentary structure in advanced democracies like in Sweitzerland. Our government was shaped by the forces of history, not necessarily pure idealism.

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch of the Commonalitarianism

OOC: Here is a summary of what we are slightly based on:
http://www.sculptors.com/~salsbury/Oceana/The origins of our own monarchies then as within the Scandinvan Empire in its earliest the Emperors emerged as the strongest leaders in a confederation of kings and he became their leader by the sword and mind, but not by the motives of his peers and was though appointed by the people to the title which his heirs have kept since then.
Congo--Kinshasa
22-12-2006, 06:03
"The Republic of Zaire strongly condemns the international community's paternalistic attitude toward The Scandinvans. What occurred in their nation is an internal matter which is of no concern or relevance to the globe. What happens within the borders of The Scandinvans is their own business. We therefore affirm our support of The Scandinvans' rights to sovereignty and self-determination."


Marshal Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu Wa Za Banga
President of the Republic of Zaire
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Coat_of_arms_of_Zaire.PNG
Jagada
22-12-2006, 09:49
The Monotheistic Republic of Jagada
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Monotheistic Republic can not, morally, voice our support for the Imperial Court of His Majesty. Nor can we support the illegal means by which these revolutionaires have gone to try and convince their government to change its ways. The Republic asks that mercy be shown to these revolutionaries. Sinking to their level and executing them, as they wished to execute you, only proves to those whom followed them that you are what they believe you to be: corrupt and heartless. Hearts and minds have never been changed by the Sword, only dulled by it.

- Alfred Rednight
The Scandinvans
23-12-2006, 01:47
DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Kahanistan believes that when the Government fails to secure the needs of the people, the people have the right to replace it with a superior form of government.

We view the official account of events with severe mistrust, coming as it does from a dictatorship. We condemn the use of capital charges against lawful or even disorderly protestors. The borders of the Soviet Republic are, as always, open to political dissidents from around the world.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign AffairsMay we remind you that the sheer differences in the cultures of our peoples, as the own people of the Empire have been allowed to define capital punishment and a vat majority of nations treason still obtains with it capital punishment, as they were committing as conspiring against all the peoples of the Empire.
The Scandinvans
23-12-2006, 02:00
"The Republic of Zaire strongly condemns the international community's paternalistic attitude toward The Scandinvans. What occurred in their nation is an internal matter which is of no concern or relevance to the globe. What happens within the borders of The Scandinvans is their own business. We therefore affirm our support of The Scandinvans' rights to sovereignty and self-determination."


Marshal Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu Wa Za Banga
President of the Republic of Zaire
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Coat_of_arms_of_Zaire.PNGWe thank you greatly for standing up to the against these people who would seek to pressure us to into pardoning these traitors and criminals who would kill millions to achieve what they want for themselves.
The Scandinvans
23-12-2006, 06:13
The Monotheistic Republic of Jagada
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Monotheistic Republic can not, morally, voice our support for the Imperial Court of His Majesty. Nor can we support the illegal means by which these revolutionaires have gone to try and convince their government to change its ways. The Republic asks that mercy be shown to these revolutionaries. Sinking to their level and executing them, as they wished to execute you, only proves to those whom followed them that you are what they believe you to be: corrupt and heartless. Hearts and minds have never been changed by the Sword, only dulled by it.

- Alfred RednightThe Empire has taken your request to have the criminals sentences commuted to a prison sentence, has respectfully declined as Imperial law clearly states that any action taken and thoroughly planned in an attempted to violently overthrow the government is treason and the law clearly states any treason shall only be answerably by death. Yet, we thank you for the intelligent analysis given by you.0

Signed,
Emperor Olaf
The Scandinvans
23-12-2006, 18:30
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Commonalitarianism
23-12-2006, 18:43
We fully understand the decision to try and execute those who acted in a directly treasonous manner. However, we do not generally understand the decision to sentence all sympathizers for ten years in a sweeping gesture without trial. To take someone in for questioning about their supposed sympathies with a rebel group is one thing, to automatically assume that everyone who shows up for a protest is guilty for ten years is extreme.

Please take the time to review this. As you automatically have sentenced them, you have no idea what their specific grievances are and are likely to create unnecessary martyrs for a terrorist cause. Also arresting all of them leaves you in the awkward of being unable to do proper police work to identify further troublemakers. Are you even sure all those you caught in the sweep outside the palace, are sympathizers, or merely were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

While you may not value free speech as a cultural issue, we do.

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch of the Commonalitarianism
The Scandinvans
27-12-2006, 05:40
We fully understand the decision to try and execute those who acted in a directly treasonous manner. However, we do not generally understand the decision to sentence all sympathizers for ten years in a sweeping gesture without trial. To take someone in for questioning about their supposed sympathies with a rebel group is one thing, to automatically assume that everyone who shows up for a protest is guilty for ten years is extreme.

Please take the time to review this. As you automatically have sentenced them, you have no idea what their specific grievances are and are likely to create unnecessary martyrs for a terrorist cause. Also arresting all of them leaves you in the awkward of being unable to do proper police work to identify further troublemakers. Are you even sure all those you caught in the sweep outside the palace, are sympathizers, or merely were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

While you may not value free speech as a cultural issue, we do.

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch of the CommonalitarianismThe “protest” in general was an attempt to violently overthrow the government in general, and from video evidence all the people who have been sentenced to death have been show, by video, were involved in the taking of the violence and they were part of the plot to lead the attacks on the government. As well, the term protest is not correct as it was a violent revolt against the nation itself and it was not a peaceful thing as this was an attempt to kill people, as well all those at the meeting were arming themselves and thus as a protest is defined they were traitors as they sought war and acts against the very people.
The Scandinvans
28-12-2006, 05:20
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The Scandinvans
29-12-2006, 04:39
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