NationStates Jolt Archive

This rp will begin after the surrender of France on June 23, 1940. I chose this to get into the meat of the war right off the bat. The only things you need to know are as follows: Nations can't act out of character. That is, democratic nations like the United States can't just declare war on Japan for no reason. Of course, even nations like the Soviet Union have restrictions. It would be doubtful that the Soviet Union would declare war on Germany as soon as we start unless the Soviet player can rp a good reason, considering that the SU wasn't even "ready" for war in mid '41. The same goes for Germany; it wouldn't make sense to attack the Soviet Union so soon after taking France. Other than that, no godmoding, make sure you research your nation so you know what you are doing (especially majors), and last but not least, please post on a regular basis, this is essential.

Ok, I don't have a nation list for you, and, no offense, but that is probably good. It will weed out players who can't even bother to research what nations existed at this time. So, please, no one ask me for the Ottoman Empire, Israel, or whatever. I am currently looking for a map of the world, circa the beginning of this rp, if anyone is good at making them that would be great.

UPDATE: Just because this is a WWII rp doesn't mean it has to end after the war ends. So, Nationalist China, for example, would be a good choice for those thinking ahead. Defeat the Communists as well as the Japanese and you have the chance to become a superpower perhaps decades earlier than in real life. I have added a list of six unchosen nations that would be good additions in order of how needed they are.

Nations:
Germany- Elite Battle Hordes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12175192#post12175192)
Soviet Union- East Lithuania
British Empire- Ebedron
Italy- SkillCrossbones
United States- Maldorians
Japan- Dershika
Communist China- Cortellen
Nationalist Spain- Piemonte-Sardegna
Nationalist China- No Taxes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511925)
Hungary- Candistan
Some farmer on the Western Rhine- New Ausha
Finland- The Kurtish Republic
Norway (Government In Exile)- ChevyRocks (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12126100)
Greece- Madnestan
Turkey- Xai cheese
The Avengers (Jewish Partisans In Lithuania)- Elloris (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511989)
Mexico- Nerotika
Yugoslavia-
Australia-
Romania-
Free France-
Bulgaria-
Vichy France-
Iraq-

I'd like to RP as the British Empire.

Soviet Union please?

Ok, both added.

I'll take Italy.

This thread WILL die within a few days...they always do.

That aside, i'd like too humbly assume the role of a half french, half german pig farmer, living on the western rhine, who is constantly getting into craaaazy situations. Awaiting confirmation.

Ok, you are Italy. New Ausha, I actually don't know who you are refering to, is the country The Netherlands? (In exile, of course.)

USA for me please.

Ok, added as USA.

This thread WILL die within a few days...they always do.

That aside, i'd like too humbly assume the role of a half french, half german pig farmer, living on the western rhine, who is constantly getting into craaaazy situations. Awaiting confirmation.

A yes that craaazy farmer, what will he get into next.

Ok, you are Italy. New Ausha, I actually don't know who you are refering to, is the country The Netherlands? (In exile, of course.)


No, im talking about a german farmer living on the western Rhineland. An individual, who gets into the most sticky of situations! (1980's studio applause)

me Japan

I will be Mao.

Both added.

Both added.

What about my craaaazy farmer? plzzzz

He could declare his barn an independant nation!

Romania is preferable for me. Could I be it?

Sure, you are Romania. New Ausha, I knew you were refering to an individual before (I thought it was some freedom fighter in the low countries or something). Anyway, I still don't get it.

Since someone took Italy, can I be Nationalist Spain?

Sure, Nationalist Spain it is.

Can i be the Free-French?

You can. Added.

cool. i guess ill be working alot with the british guy.

do i have to make a d/n?

I think I am interested in Hungary

Sure, you are Romania. New Ausha, I knew you were refering to an individual before (I thought it was some freedom fighter in the low countries or something). Anyway, I still don't get it.

I cant really be any more simplistic with this.

I...want....to.....be a farmer, living just west of the Rhine river. Can I? Just a farmer.

Seeing as Nationalist China is still needed, can I join as them?

cool. i guess ill be working alot with the british guy.

do i have to make a d/n?

You probably should. Put down any information you can find.

Candistan, I am assuming that is a request, so... added.

New Ausha, sure, why not?

No Taxes, you are Nationalist China.

Vichy France Please

Ok, you are Vichy France. We only need a few more nations before starting up, although more can join afterwards as well, so start making your factbooks, everyone.

Bump.

bump..

I really can't do it anymore, so I'm dropping out.

I could please change from Vichy France to Finland?

Mind if I take the Norwegian government-in-exile?

That's a shame.

Finland it is.

You are now Norway.

We need a new United Kingdom. Who doesn't want to be Winnie the witty drunk who lead the British Empire during their finest hour?

*bump*

Greece, please.

ill be Great Britain!

Added as Greece.

You are now Great Britain.

*bump*

Turkey is yours.

One or two more nations and were definitely ready to start once everyone gets their factbooks up. Although hopefully more people will join after we start.

*bump*

Hey, what about a Jewish Partisan Group? There were a lot of them throughout Lithuania etc. If you like the idea I'll join up as them if not thanks anyway.

Elloris, that's fine, but, not being a nation like France they were not united, so; is there a particular group you know of that you want to be? If not, just give me something to call you and I will put you down.

Yea, there was a group of Jewish Partisans in Lithuania, they called themselves The Avengers. So if you just want to put down The Avengers then in parentheses something like Lithuanian Partisans that'd be cool. That way I have a name and everyone knows where we're at. I don't know if you need this at all but their leader was man named Abba Kovner.

I am almost done with my factbook, yet I was wondering how in depth I needed to go about the Nationalist military. The Warlord Armies, which were loosely under control of the Nationalists, vary widely in equipment and organization and there is very little info on them.

Since I don't have the time nor the patience, I'd like to join in as an American Contract Mercenary under employment by Du Gaulle to assist the French Marquis. My standard weapons will be a Lee Enfield, a Colt semi-auto pistol, a Machette, and two stolen Stielhandgrenate.

Elloris, added as The Avengers.

No Taxes, if you can't find information on them just give a general idea of numbers and equipment. In other words, instead of statistical data find a link using words to summarize the general state of such forces. "They were lacking in modern artillery..." or something along those lines. Hopefully more in-depth than my example, though.

Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh, does your mercenary have a name?

I will post my factbook things in a few days.

My preliminary factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511925) for Nationalist China is up.

Good, now we only need 10 more... including mine.

Someone should play Australia, they were important in the war against Japan.

OOC: Lol.. hahaha, omgsh. Funny post.

Being the nationalistic Dane, that I am, I'd like to play my own country.

The effort of the Danes has been highly underestimated - mostly due the fact, that we capitulated after only four casualties in open fighting with the germans. That however didn't stop our nation from being perhaps the most active saboteurs and freedom fighters.

Most of our entire government were in fact only front figures to decept the Germans, whilst our real leaders formed the socalled "Shadow Government", where they would organize our resistance.

The highlights of our resistance would that of smuggling armed freedom fighters aboard a train headed for a Contration Camp, then overwhelming the guarding Nazis and freeing the captives.. Although assumably in some far off place where they all eventually met their deaths at the hands of the environment. (I made the last part up...)

Please include my country - Denmark.

Someone should play Australia, they were important in the war against Japan.
It should be decided the British player, but someone could play of all Britain's Pacific holdings, so the British player could focus on Europe.

My factbook up this should have all the information on my people and everything. They don't have a population or economy because they don't have a nation and they live off the wild.

The Avengers Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12122247#post12122247)

Heres my factbook. Avengers Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511989)

Pia Kjaersgaard, your self-proclaimed nationalism combined with statements about the contribution of the Danish resistance seem to make you rather biased. My understanding was that there were no concentration camps in Denmark, very few outside of Germany or territory annexed to the reich in general, but I could be wrong. I find it hard to believe that a large group of Danish people could board a train (especially one going into the heartland of Germany) with weapons, or overwhelm German guards without them. Certainly not on a regular basis, anyway. Fool me once...

Anyway, do you have any source of such things happening? If not, propose alternate resistance methods such as stealing secrets, smuggling people or weapons, or bombing trains.

The Kurtish Republic, I agree, Australia is important and will be added to my list. No Taxes, British interference with Canada and Australia was minor at this point, the former colonies were subject only to declaring war when Britain did, I believe. Internal policy was a matter for the Canadian and Australian governments. I think even Egypt, South Africa and India had a degree of freedom. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong though.

Oh, also, I have several questions/things to let you know:

1. The actual start date is June 23, 1940. I have changed this on the front page.

2. What do you think the RL time/RP Time ratio should be? 1 day = five sound good?

3. How should we do war? Should we submit orders to different people to game it out, or just rp everything with each other with minor oversight (having different posters point out things that don't seem realistic?)

4. #'s 2 & 3 will be posted on the first page once decided.

I think 1 day=1 week would be best so that we would get through the years in a reasonable amount of time.

I think 1 day=1 week would best so that we would get through the years in a reasonable amount of time.

True, true... anyone else have an opinion?

A day for a week sounds like a good ratio to me.

Heres my factbook. Avengers Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511989)

Err...not to downplay their role in the timeline, but, as of June 23, 1940, Lithuania has only been occupied by the Soviets for a matter of days. It would, therefore, seem kinda unlikely that they escaped from a concentration camp to fight the Nazis when they have yet to invade for another year (going by the RL timeline).

Yea, I forgot about it starting during the surrender of France. The Soviet Union occupied Lithuania until 1941 and then it was conquered by Germany. However, one of the Avengers Ruzka was from Poland who traveled to Lithuania fleeing the Nazis. If you want I can start my role after Lithuania is conquered and when the Avengers escape the concentration camp. So technically, I'd be out of the RP until Lithuania is conquered if thats cool with you all.

Yea, I forgot about it starting during the surrender of France. The Soviet Union occupied Lithuania until 1941 and then it was conquered by Germany. However, one of the Avengers Ruzka was from Poland who traveled to Lithuania fleeing the Nazis. If you want I can start my role after Lithuania is conquered and when the Avengers escape the concentration camp. So technically, I'd be out of the RP until Lithuania is conquered if thats cool with you all.

Why not make it so that they have escaped to Lithuania already, before Soviets occupied it, as it's getting quite clear that Germany is not a good place for a Jew anymore?
And as the Soviets, when they came, hunted down all even slightly suspicious people, sending them to Gulags in Siberia, and Jews who have just recently come from Germany are extremely suspicious in the eyes of NKVD, you could first fight against the Soviets by forming partisan groups alongside the main population. When the Germans come, then against them.

I like Madnestan's idea. After all, you have no idea when or if I am going to invade the USSR. They may end up joining against Britain for all anyone knows.

OK, I've got my factbook up: Norway Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12126100)

I also like Madnestan's idea. Just because in RL they were formed to fight against the Nazi occupiers doesn't mean they can't also fight against the Soviet occupiers.

Yea, I like that idea.

Okay, 1 day will = one week. Although for the first two days we will go one day = one day just to give everyone a chance to post important things (construction, military reforms, etc.) before too much time has gone by.

Anyone have an opinion on war, then?

all this is true... yet as elite said, all the things can be differant, so theres a possibility that i might not attack these Jewish Lithuanians... but if thats what we decide i'll have fun with it

haha yea, let's just push around the jewish guys but that brings me to a good question. we doing this as fiction or historical i mean like fictional endings or real endings.

I'm gonna bet fictional endings, since we don't have to necessarily go exactly the way the war proceeded in RL.

I'm gonna bet fictional endings, since we don't have to necessarily go exactly the way the war proceeded in RL.

i agree. We can go ways that we want to now, starting at...1939?(i didnt see where we start)

Then we just go our own way. But, we should try and make it realistic for that time, just they didnt think about it.

Now, as the UK, im going to be incharge of the Free-nation forces right? but i just dont control them, correct?


Also, if each day is one week, how will we have combat. Will we slow down the days? Like D-Day, if people arent able to post on just one day, will we stretch the time to the next day?

i agree. We can go ways that we want to now, starting at...1939?(i didnt see where we start)

Then we just go our own way. But, we should try and make it realistic for that time, just they didnt think about it.

Now, as the UK, im going to be incharge of the Free-nation forces right? but i just dont control them, correct?


Also, if each day is one week, how will we have combat. Will we slow down the days? Like D-Day, if people arent able to post on just one day, will we stretch the time to the next day?

We're starting in late June of 1940, so it's just after the French surrender. The U.K. isn't really in "control" of the Free-nation forces, but it is where most of them have or will have their headquarters for the time being; Poles, Czechs, Norwegians, and the Free French. Of course, they would do their best to work together as a part of the Allied Command.

haha yea, let's just push around the jewish guys but that brings me to a good question. we doing this as fiction or historical i mean like fictional endings or real endings.

Ebedron, like ChevyRocks said, it starts June 23, 1940. You (as the player) will have full control over free forces that aren't chosen by another player. The British Empire, however, will not have full control. You will have to rp this accurately as long as there are free nations that are unchosen. Just as I will have to accurately portray my hegemony over Vichy France.

I don't think one week per day will be a particular problem as long as everyone posts regularly. But I would appreciate everyone's input on this.

Sounds like a good idea, I never like when you have to go with real endings because you already know what happened. Alright so do we know when were going to start or we waiting for more signups?

Elloris, we are waiting for more factbooks. I haven't gotten mine up yet, I still need to search for air and naval forces. Hopefully most everyone has started on theirs. (We can start without everyone getting theirs done, but we need most of them.)

Merry Christmas, everybody!

Bump.

i am very sorry but i dont think i will be able to keep up so i must pull out.

Ok, alright. Everyone working on their factbooks?

*bump*

Bump again. Don't tell me everyone's disappeared.

still here.

yea, still here just waiting and checking in every now and then

if anyones interested in another type of rp thats already up, come to:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510462

I think we should wait to see if people are gonna come back to this RP. Some people might still be away at holiday-related events or the like.

I think we should wait to see if people are gonna come back to this RP. Some people might still be away at holiday-related events or the like.

I agree. We will just wait and see.

I'm here, and still working on my factbook. I'm going to try making it a little smaller.

bump.

*bump*

im still here, factbook, i've made a start

**bump**

also here. bit busy, but i should have factbook by time we start.

Okay, good. Anyone else?

Hungary is still here

I'll be Ethiopia in this. I mean since ussr's taken

I'll be Ethiopia in this. I mean since ussr's taken

I think you mean the Ethipoian government-in-exile, because at the present time in the RP, Ethiopia is a part of Italian East Africa.

If this thing actually gets off i'll take Mexico, because mexico is the shiznit

DuQuadland, as ChevyRocks said, Ethiopia is owned by Italy. But if you would like to be the Ethiopian government-in-exile just let me know.

Nerotika, you are Mexico.

Uh, bump.

are we gunna start?

Well, we need the major nation's factbooks. Or, at the very least, a declaration that they are still here.

Im major :D

EDIT: Can I have Cuba? I'd be interested in making it into a sort of Carribean Empire possibly allied with the Axis.

Of course if you don't like the idea, then I'll have Yugoslavia.

wan u should come join this.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510462

Cpr Stat!!!!

I would like any of the following:

Holland

Luexmborg

Lichtenstein

Switzerland

Romania

Vatican City

If any of those are availible, i'd love too take one of them.

EDIT: Ive read a little on factbooks we are spose too make. If I am ok'd can I get a quick rundown as too what these factbooks entail?

Im relinquishing my farmer, BTW. He died of herpes, lets leave it at that.

This is to let everyone know that I am still here as Nationalist China and that I hope we start soon, before too many people lose interest.

I would like any of the following:

Holland

Luexmborg

Lichtenstein

Switzerland

Romania

Vatican City

If any of those are availible, i'd love too take one of them.

EDIT: Ive read a little on factbooks we are spose too make. If I am ok'd can I get a quick rundown as too what these factbooks entail?

Im relinquishing my farmer, BTW. He died of herpes, lets leave it at that.

Well, I think all those are still available. Just to point out, Holland (aka The Netherlands) and Luxemborg have both been invaded and occupied by the Germans, so they would have a government-in-exile in the U.K. at this point.

Also, Vatican City is Confirmed Italian Territory.

Well, I think all those are still available. Just to point out, Holland (aka The Netherlands) and Luxemborg have both been invaded and occupied by the Germans, so they would have a government-in-exile in the U.K. at this point.

In that case i'll elect for Romania. Just too be clear, I choose the nations fate yes? For example, I dont HAVE too ally with Germany if they invade the SU?

I'd like to reiterate my request to join, perhaps you did not see my prior request? *Hopes....*


@New Ausha: I'm honored by your Political Compass sig. *Beams*


:D

I'd like to reiterate my request to join, perhaps you did not see my prior request? *Hopes....*


@New Ausha: I'm honored by your Political Compass sig. *Beams*


:D

I calls em as I sees em'.

Anyway, about the factbooks we are suppose too make, does this involve finding info on our nation, in 1941? Or can we make sensible estimates based on modern day statistics. (Ex: Romania has a population of 22 million. Could I estimate this would be around 14-15 million in 1941?)

(If people post in this so rarely, I shudder too think how fast the IC RP will die...)

i would like to role play as the jewish brigade.

I'd like to either be a German in the navy, preferably in the english channel mining group.

That or.... say Australia

there is no one person roleplaying the german navy. thats foolish. Look at the front page to see whats taken.wow

Awww, but mining is fun!

Fine, Sign me up for Australia!

BUMP!!!

Is this dead?

BUMP!!!

Is this dead?
It looks like it, I haven't seen EBH in a while.

Yeah... sorry about that. I kind of figured it was dead already and then got really busy, begining a prolonged vacation and all. If everyone still wants to do this just post that you are still here over the next few days and we will start, factbooks or no. Although you should try to get them up soon after we start. (Until then we`ll have to rely on everyone to call each other on unrealistic posts.)

For those who have made their wish to join known since I last posted: make your request again to let me know you are also still interested and here. As far as Romania goes: you don't have to join me (Germany) if I attack the SU. But, like I said in the first post, you have to be realistic. Romania was not entirely happy with the Soviets at this time, so not only do you need a justification to not join Germany, but I would find it hard to believe you would ever attack Germany as long as the war is going even reasonably well for the reich (if that was what you were thinking.)

Italy is still here, and my factbook is doing good. Link= http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12124540

Can I RP as the Zionists in Palestine? (Jews in the British Mandate of Palestine who were trying to get the nation of Israel established)

I'll be trying to get independence from Britain while the Aliyah Bet tries to smuggle Jews out of Germany through the British blockade.

There are multiple factions I can use. The Yishuv, Haganah, Palmach, Irgun, and Stern Gang.

this things dead. Fare thee well

im still here

We just lost the British Empire, that's not good.

well im kinda here, but no ones posting so it just might as well be considered dead. I didnt even think u were here.

bump?

Yeah, it is cleary dead.