NationStates Jolt Archive

ALRIGHT! I've got it finished (When everything is said and done, that is)! Everyone, give me your opinions!

Basic Weapon of All Soldiers:
MP-68 Tactical Multi-Purple Rile
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343381
Supplied by Kelonian States

Army Vehicles: 310,000 men

50,000 T-72 Tanks (150,000 men operating)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72
Supplied by the Soviet Storefront

50,000 MT-LB APCs (100,000 men operating)
Caries 550,000 passengers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB
Supplied by the Soviet Storefront

20,000 BTR-90 APCs (60,000 men operating)
140,000 passengers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTR-90
Supplied by the Soviet Storefront

Navy Ships: 335,200 men

500 Cyclone Class SSK Submarines (75,000 men)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506990
Supplied by Clandonia Prime

20 Dragon Class Destroyers (60,000 men)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11377061&postcount=3425
Supplied by DMG Military Industries

1 Aquilifer Class Command Carrier (3,200 men)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12048115&postcount=33
Supplied by Tocrowkia

1 Venator Class Super Dreadnaught (7,000 men)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12048209&postcount=41
Supplied by Tocrowkia

5,000 Sprint Class Powerboats (25,000 men)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10405355&postcount=2060
Provided by DMG Military Industries

15,000 LCU Amphibious Transports (165,000 men operating)
Can carry up to 45,000 tanks or 6,000,000 infantry
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lcu.htm
Built in the Fourth Holy Reich

Air Force Aircraft: 42,000 men

1,000 B-52 Stratofortresses (5,000 men operating)
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-52.htm
Supplied by DMG Military Industries

5,000 Reizajan REI-21 Fighters (5,000 men operating)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509374
Supplied by Kelonian States

16,000 MI-28 Helicopters (32,000 men operating)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-28
Supplied by the Soviet Storefront

Total: 1.5 million men
Infantry (Foot soldiers): 812,800
Vehicle Crews: 687,200

Your not going to subdivide your military into Divisions, Compaies or anything else? or is that the next step?

Your not going to subdivide your military into Divisions, Compaies or anything else? or is that the next step?

I was thinking about doing that next. But as far as raw figures go, how does it look?

It looks good except for one thing.

I see Military Vehicles, Aircraft and Naval Vessels, but I don't see any statistics for foot troops.

It looks good except for one thing.

I see Military Vehicles, Aircraft and Naval Vessels, but I don't see any statistics for foot troops.

Look at the bottom next to "infantry."

Must've missed that.


I feel stupid now.





Ok, looks about good then.

Ok, looks about good then.

Groovy! Thanks man!

I was thinking about doing that next. But as far as raw figures go, how does it look?
Pretty good.

Add some AA (Cheap Flak Guns, Hand held Surface to Air, or mobile AA vehicles should make do for now.)
Some Anti-Tank weapons would be useful as well.
(Many storefronts carry basic RPG packages as well as Stinger missiles.)

Not bad... Still T-34s are quite out of date you know,
That and that you are calling yourself the "Fourth 'Holy' Reich" and you are using the very tanks that brought down a RL previous Reich is ironic.

Your military is still way off especially the navy.

For instance, you have 2 surface warships total plus 15,000 of the slowest troop transports imaginable. If you tried an amphibious invasion, aircraft would totally work you over.

I suggest for a navy you buy three carrier strike group packages from either Pudu or NTDA

Pudu's Carrier Strike Group: $50 Billion
2 Orel Ul'yanovsk Class Carriers / Nimitz Class Carriers
2 Dauntless Class Heavy Battleships
11 Overlord Class Air Defence Frigates / Duke Class Air Defence Frigates
13 Sovremenny Class Missile Destroyers / Arleigh Burke Class Missile Destroyers
8 Amur 1850 Class Attack Submarines / Seawolf Class Attack Submarines
8 Kirov Class Battecruisers / Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruisers
50 Mi-28 Havoc / AH-64 Apache Helicopters
32 Ka-27 Helix Helicopters / AH-64 Apache Helicopters
80 MiG-31 Foxhounds / F-18E Super Hornet
10 EA-6B Prowlers
70 Yak-38 Forger / F-14 Tomcats

NTDA's Advanced Carrier Strike Group Package ($53 billion)
2 Nimitz Class Supercarriers
2 Agamemnon Class Battleships *Original*
8 Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruisers
6 Zumwalt Class Stealth Destroyers
10 Daring Class Air Defense Destroyers
10 Arleigh Burke Class Missile Destroyers
4 Littoral Class Combat Ships
10 Sea Wolf Attack Submarines
1 ASDS Advanced SEAL Delivery System
2 Safeguard Class Rescue and Salvage Ships
2 AOE 6 Class Fast Combat Support Ships
2 Osprey Class Mine Hunters
2 FCSSM Fleet Counter Surveillance Satellite Modules *Original*
50 SH-60 Seahawk Helicopters (Blackhawk Naval Variant)
38 AH-64D Apache Longbow Helicopters
80 F-18E Super Hornets
10 EA-6B Prowlers
70 F-35 Lightning II’s


Then buy a few amphibious assault packages from Pudu

Pudu's Amphibiuos Assault Package: $32 Billion
12 Wasp Class / Ocean Class Helicoper Assualt Ships
7 Sovremenny Class Destroyers / Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
2 Kirov Class Cruisers / Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
9 Ivan-Rogov / Phalanx Class Amphibious Assault Transport Ships
36 Pomornik class / Tidal Wave Class LCACs
80 Mi-28 Havocs / AH-64 Apaches
64 Mi-8s / CH-47 Chinook Helicopters
72 Yak-141s / AV-8B Harrier II's
100 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks / T-95 Black Eagle MBTs
96 HMMWV Humvees / UAZ-469 Jeeps

Your army and air force need some work, but it is late and I am getting tired. If you want, I can post more tomorrow.

Just so ya know, you spelled my name wrong. :p

Point taken particularly on one issue: I added a shiload of powerboats. How does it look now?

That and that you are calling yourself the "Fourth 'Holy' Reich" and you are using the very tanks that brought down a RL previous Reich is ironic.

Yeah, I know...but seriously, you can't be the Soviet Storefront's prices! :(

Well, I just added some new tanks, still cheaper than the more modern versions, but still, to the point, I can replace your 50,000 T-34s with T-62s or T-72s for a mere... 200,000 bucks per unit?

Well, I just added some new tanks, still cheaper than the more modern versions, but still, to the point, I can replace your 50,000 T-34s with T-62s or T-72s for a mere... 200,000 bucks per unit?

Make it happen! :p

Make it happen! :p

Well, the total cost will be 10,000,000,000 USDs.

Would you prefer T-62s or T-72s?

Well, the total cost will be 10,000,000,000 USDs.

Would you prefer T-62s or T-72s?

I want the T-72s.

OOC: Well apart from the slight confusion os Soviets selling arms to the Nazis, but whatever, any logistics? Oh, and you might conceivably have some use for bombers somewhere along the line, but maybe not.

any logistics?

That's a given. This is just the actual fighting military.

You might conceivably have some use for bombers somewhere along the line, but maybe not.

Good point. I'll look at the DMG storefront.

Edit: Change made. How's it look now?

I want the T-72s.

Its done then, they shall arrive in 2 groups over the period of 3-4 NS Months.

Now to see what can I do with 50,000 T-34s, probably use them for target practice.

Its done then, they shall arrive in 2 groups over the period of 3-4 NS Months.

Now to see what can I do with 50,000 T-34s, probably use them for target practice.

Groovy. Question, though. How does my army look now, with all of the changes made?

I'd try to get some more ships, try Aequatio's, most of my navy uses the one's he designs.

I'd try to get some more ships, try Aequatio's, most of my navy uses the one's he designs.

Bah, I'll consider it.