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Most people just assume that the Confederacy is some weak nation under the thimb of Griffincrest. This is actually not the case at all. To start, the Confederate military is actually far more powerful than Griffincrest, using post-modern weaponry and very well trained soldiers.

The situation in the Confederacy is very delicate, and the slightest problem could explode into full out civil war amongst the various groups of civilians, the groups are as follows, listed in order of size.

Confederate Military - 30 million soldiers
Griffincrest Mercenary Force - 7 million mercenaries
Communist Workers Party - estimated 1 million guerillas
Confederates Against Foreigners (CAF) - 7500,000 men
Confederate Farmers Society (CFS) - 650,000 redneck hicks with guns
Divinity semi-autonomous military - 610,000 troopers
Paradise City Police Force - 120,000 officers

Even the PCPD can pose a threat, and should not be mistreated. They have threatend before and are capable of full out open rebellion, one that would capture the capital city very quickly.

This is my basic rundown, anything you want to know about the Blackhelm Confederacy, feel free to ask.

Yes, why does the Confederacy pick and choose posts it will respond to, which result in lesser effects of damage in times of war?

Should civil war break out, would there be any way to protect the sovereignty of the confederacy while maintaining (and possibly expanding) positive relations with Griffincrest?

I will probably have other questions later.

Yes, what importance are these numbers faced against napalm?

Yes, what importance are these numbers faced against napalm?

Napalm is so crude. FAE is where it's at.

So, it is my 30 some men, and 2 tanks, vs some 120,000 well armed and angry cops...

I'd like to know what I shall expect to face when I meet you at those pearly gates... of Paradise...

And don't say a guy with wings and a flaming sword...

Anyways, I could do one thing that would unify almost all factions cept the mercs and the confederate military...

Though I doubt you, or even the GASN, would approve of using such tactics on another nation...
(some consider it worse than nuking)

And how many of those people are already dead?
You've been in at least 3 catastophic wars recently, and 7 million mercs is a bit large considering how massive your losses have been.

Including the destruction of the entire Husk region, and the destruction of your 12 (square) mile island airbase...
And the losses in NA and TWSP, Khornate... (just naming a few)
And of course recent infighting among your own factions...

So, it is my 30 some men, and 2 tanks, vs some 120,000 well armed and angry cops...

I'd like to know what I shall expect to face when I meet you at those pearly gates... of Paradise...

And don't say a guy with wings and a flaming sword...

Anyways, I could do one thing that would unify almost all factions cept the mercs and the confederate military...

Though I doubt you, or even the GASN, would approve of using such tactics on another nation...
(some consider it worse than nuking)

And how many of those people are already dead?
You've been in at least 3 catastophic wars recently, and 7 million mercs is a bit large considering how massive your losses have been.

Including the destruction of the entire Husk region, and the destruction of your 12 (square) mile island airbase...
And the losses in NA and TWSP, Khornate... (just naming a few)
And of course recent infighting among your own factions...

I'll answer your question first. Griffincrest Security Force hires 1% of the Confederacy. That number is adjusted from the number it should be. And the Husk Airbase was not completely destroyed, it just took damage. To blow up a 200 mile airbase with one man is quite an impossible feat.

It will be Police armed with Transylvanian weaponry, and the soldiers in the city, and if you get lost than angry mobs, and then of course the Commies.

Should civil war break out, would there be any way to protect the sovereignty of the confederacy while maintaining (and possibly expanding) positive relations with Griffincrest?

I will probably have other questions later.

You can always provide support to the Confederate government to assist in crushing the rebellion.

I'll answer your question first. Griffincrest Security Force hires 1% of the Confederacy. That number is adjusted from the number it should be. And the Husk Airbase was not completely destroyed, it just took damage. To blow up a 200 mile airbase with one man is quite an impossible feat.

It will be Police armed with Transylvanian weaponry, and the soldiers in the city, and if you get lost than angry mobs, and then of course the Commies.

Your base in Husk had a POW camp and armory, correct?
That housed, what? 1,000... 2,000... 10,000 POWs/political deviants...

And I don't know what makes you think the Husk operation was a one man job...

As it took several.

So you essentailly allowed Jamison to take command of a brigade/Division of ad-hoc troops armed with then state of th art Griffencrest weaponry... AND negate any potential first responders to the breakout from the camp.

And since you took no effort to reinforce or eliminate this uprising in the RFF, I assumed that the operation was so succesful that the base had been captuered.

And I DID ask for you to respond to those attacks, repeatedly...
As I do not enjoy trying to assume what you actually would have done in response.
But an intentional no response normally means that you've abandoned the outcome.
As the assaults were legit, and therefore, IGNORE cannons are not an option.

You are also not stating how many men have died since the civil war started.
Because I'm pretty sure they aren't shooting holes into each other with blanks...

PS/Edit:
And there is still a thread open from which you can respond to the Husk assault (without cluttering other threads), it is in my sig, as it has been since the thread started.... for your convienence.

Napalm is so crude. FAE is where it's at.

C'mon man! White Phosphorus all the way!


Nothin' like slaughter via mass white clouds of death!

Your base in Husk had a POW camp and armory, correct?
That housed, what? 1,000... 2,000... 10,000 POWs/political deviants...

And I don't know what makes you think the Husk operation was a one man job...

As it took several.

So you essentailly allowed Jamison to take command of a brigade/Division of ad-hoc troops armed with then state of th art Griffencrest weaponry... AND negate any potential first responders to the breakout from the camp.

And since you took no effort to reinforce or eliminate this uprising in the RFF, I assumed that the operation was so succesful that the base had been captuered.

And I DID ask for you to respond to those attacks, repeatedly...
As I do not enjoy trying to assume what you actually would have done in response.
But an intentional no response normally means that you've abandoned the outcome.
As the assaults were legit, and therefore, IGNORE cannons are not an option.

You are also not stating how many men have died since the civil war started.
Because I'm pretty sure they aren't shooting holes into each other with blanks...


RFF was an uprising? I thought you just blew shit up.

Yes, why does the Confederacy pick and choose posts it will respond to

lol looks like yet another example.

RFF was an uprising? I thought you just blew shit up.

More of a slaughter of the compound, followed by extraction of the POWs and other friendly people.

NRI Airbase was pretty much the same, except the charges were there since construction started, and the POWs were fully armed and trained Marine Raiders...
It was also smaller and they bothered to take prisioners... Husk personel weren't that lucky...

Uprisings get messy, I generally refrain from starting any...
(It would have also sapped my logistics, which were more concerned with protecting NA and TWSP at the time, rather than throwing a wrench into RFF's side)

More of a slaughter of the compound, followed by extraction of the POWs and other friendly people.

NRI Airbase was pretty much the same, except the charges were there since construction started, and the POWs were fully armed and trained Marine Raiders...
It was also smaller and they bothered to take prisioners... Husk personel weren't that lucky...

Uprisings get messy, I generally refrain from starting any...
(It would have also sapped my logistics, which were more concerned with protecting NA and TWSP at the time, rather than throwing a wrench into RFF's side)

There is no way that you would have been able to take the Husk. There were hundreds of heavily armed men there, with tank and APC support.

There is no way that you would have been able to take the Husk. There were hundreds of heavily armed men there, with tank and APC support.

You are more than welcome to debate the matter on the other thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501220)

Napalm is so crude. FAE is where it's at.

Napalm is old school. I like to have some style, unlike you kids these days.

Hey BC how much of that is logistics? Also how much of those 30 million soldiers are air/navy?
Remember if your military is too big ya can't equip them very well...

Hey BC how much of that is logistics? Also how much of those 30 million soldiers are air/navy?
Remember if your military is too big ya can't equip them very well...

5:1 Logistics, Two million fighting men in each service.

Why does the Confederacy pick and choose posts it will respond to, which result in lesser effects of damage in times of war?

(Maybe now he will answer)

Why does the Confederacy pick and choose posts it will respond to, which result in lesser effects of damage in times of war?

(Maybe now he will answer)

What? I don't.

I don't really pay attention anyway, just wanted to do that. Personally I have no quarrels with ya.