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This is not a 'world war'. This is not the end of Jenrak. This is a 'what-if' roleplay about the end of the NS World. Not everybody has to join, but I thought it would be an interesting war - this will let players fight others they're too afraid or don't want to fight. This will let older players unleash their full power, and newer players test their skill against others.

The story - a perfectly neutral country is ganged upon, but other nations come to its aid. It's a simple scenario - the theme will be very apocalyptic. This is a world that's going to end, not a world that will be rebuilt. It's the Last Great War, a war that never happened.

Nothing will change, this is simply for pure amusement. Anybody interested?

This will be MT/PMT, of course. Also, I would advise you use nukes as last resort.

"It's the end of the world as we know it"

So theres going to be alot of nukes and other superweapons I assume

"It's the end of the world as we know it"

So theres going to be alot of nukes and other superweapons I assume

Indeed.

The Reformed States of Verdesia (RFF, Kappelia, and Utvara) would do well here.

I'm definatly in!

I'd like to join, but not as a straight out factor in the war. Rather, playing as a number of the type of people whom can be found by following the link in my signature. Spies, assassins, double, triple, and quadruple agents, hackers, sabotuers, etc.

Come to think of it, if the above is okay, I could conceivably be vital in setting off the spark that sends the world up in flames.

I'll join the aiding nations.

sounds like a cool idea. Although it'd suck for me... no wmds.. lol

Heh, The Hills will reign supreme, I'm in. Time to show the full force of my Behemoth's

We'll need a nation whose willing to be the spark, however.

The sound of millions of iron-shod jackboots, crushing the chemical-scarred bones of the conquered, the deafening roar of massive shells tearing voids through the air as they come closer and closer, jet trails and flaming wreckage, the distant explosion of another rocket strike as the armored personnel carriers crunch over the failing pavement of the cities streets...

The Dominion is in.

I'm only a tiny nation, but I'd love to join in.

We still need a nation willing to incite this, heh.

We still need a nation willing to incite this, heh.

I'll fight whomever we need me to to start this war moving.

Well, I suppose that I could play that part as well. Give some of the more directly combat oriented of my assassins and such less distance to go, although it would make it harder for the others to get out...

So, as long as there's a relatively nutreal country bordering me, for my spies to cross over to and take a flight, I'll volunteer.

I could begin a 'holy' crusade.

Pudu, you sound like a good choice. However, I'll need a map. RFF is a bit too big.

Pudu, you sound like a good choice. However, I'll need a map. RFF is a bit too big.

Alright, before any of this begins we should gather more people, abd once I have a good idea of who is participating I'll invade a couple of 'em. I've got grudges against plenty of nations, chances are I'll find a reason to pick a fight...

Map of me?

You're going to be the spark. I'm going to attack the spark - I'm an offender. I'll need a map.

And yes, there needs to be more people. It's likely a majority will stop coming, so more people is needed first.

You're going to be the spark. I'm going to attack the spark - I'm an offender. I'll need a map.

And yes, there needs to be more people. It's likely a majority will stop coming, so more people is needed first.

Ahhh, most excelent... I have a crude map in my signature, but something more detailed can be created.

Gleh, I'm in.
I'm PMT btw.

Any elements of the supernatural in it opposed to superweapons? While you gusy launch nukes can I summon demons and such? Been planning a real "Dark Crusade" and this could be good practice.

Gleh, I'm in.
I'm PMT btw.

It's MT/PMT - since it's the end of the world, and it's just for fun, it doesn't matter much. The PMT are going to have a technological advantage, but everyone is going to die anyways.

Ahhh, most excelent... I have a crude map in my signature, but something more detailed can be created.

I have sigs turned off. Can you be a pal and get me the URL?

Here. (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2691/puy6.png)

This thread will have to be very well planned out. Oh, and HoD, how different are these demons from humans?

Uldarious, may sound like an odd request, but you could invade me in this? I only have a small military (40,000, plus associated police and militias) and I think it would be pretty cool to RP against PMT invaders.

Think the typical demon: horns, spitting fire, ripping hearts out, immune to weapons, but lets say they can only stay on this plane for 1 day after they are summoned. I can keep them limited to the areas of a nuclear bomb, so it would be much the same. Would this be fair?

Think the typical demon: horns, spitting fire, ripping hearts out, immune to weapons, but lets say they can only stay on this plane for 1 day after they are summoned. I can keep them limited to the areas of a nuclear bomb, so it would be much the same. Would this be fair?

I'm alright with it if it's only a day or such. However, you have to ask the others as well.

I'm alright with it if it's only a day or such. However, you have to ask the others as well.

Hold on, immune to weapons? Even religious stuff?

Yessir. They stem from Chaos itself, which is beyond such things.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5255/emporerpudugoodmapbe7.png

This is a map of my nation, the black dots are the one-hundred and fifteen Port Compounds, and the five red ones are the Administation Compounds.

There are a total of three-thousand compounds, each one-hundred and fifty kilometers square, and delving three-kilometers into the earth. Within each compound there are one-million five hundred thousand loyal citizens, each filling their own role in the caste system, working their two-six hour shifts and spending the rest of their time beneath the heavy glass lids of their capsules.

There are a couple other "breeds" of people, who don't nessecarily follow this layout, and I'll explain them as time goes by...

I might be interested in joining in in this, I'm assuming this would end up being an alternative history thing?

Methinks this could be very interesting...

Yessir. They stem from Chaos itself, which is beyond such things.

What about order?

Count me in, I have a number of toys I've held back. :)

Also, re the demons, just have them be almost invunerable rather than completely invunerable :cool:

Sure why not, sounds like fun

Yessir. They stem from Chaos itself, which is beyond such things.

*throws Dungeons and Dragons book at* haha! Order!

Seriously though, invincible demons? Not cool, even from a fantasy tech standpoint. Nothing should get to be invincible.

Now, you might say, you can't fight a nuke! Wrong! You can shoot it down. Now, I say, that unless other nations can have nuclear weapons which can avoid being hit by any ABM systems, remain at full intensity for a couple of days, and then return home, he should make those more reasonable.

But that's me, and, ultimately, it's Jenrak's call.

I have a number of toys I've held back. :)

You and propably everyone in NS :p

Alright they can be shot and killed like men.....after a looooot of bullets.

Count me in, I have a number of toys I've held back. :)

Also, re the demons, just have them be almost invunerable rather than completely invunerable :cool:

I'll take it!

So, looks like we have a few people ready to go, when's it going to get started?

I'm definetly interested. After the war possibly we could also start a "Post-Great War" thread RP about the survivors (if there are any).

Sure I could invade you Raithal, my navy is my weakest branch of my military though, I'm better adapted for defence with all the money I pured into that but I could probably send an Expeditionary Force your way.
Expect soem crazy-ass mofo weapons from Otagia like powered-suits and PROHT's mega grenade launchers on some of my weapons but as far as things go my nation isn't that tech heavy...but my people all are genetically enhanced to some degree.

This has to be organized first - what are you guys going to be doing?

That's what I need every participating to know. I'm going on a religious berserk. What about the rest of you?

Interesting....would join if I myself weren't so stacked with so many role-plays and RL weren't getting in the way as often.

Could use a few more big names though.

Can I join? My nation's already bombed out, but its not completely flattened.

I'm too small to invaded anywhere, but I can easily latch onto a bigger country as an ally.

Can I join? My nation's already bombed out, but its not completely flattened.

I'm too small to invaded anywhere, but I can easily latch onto a bigger country as an ally.

Don't underestimate yourself. Even a very small force can achieve great results depending on what they do.

Heck, I'm up for it... can the Undershi militarists join the fun?

I'd love to participate. Hell, I'd love to be super-ganged up on in this. I've never gotten to fight on my home soil before, it could be very... very interesting.

Hey signed up, just wondering what I should do. do I randomly attack people then?

Feel free to randomly attack me/assign me jobs

I'm intrigued, but I don't want to join right now because I have a lot on my plate already. I might be interested in joining up later (probably once it's already going) if people are okay with that and if I get some more time available.

Interesting....would join if I myself weren't so stacked with so many role-plays and RL weren't getting in the way as often.

Could use a few more big names though.

The problem is most of the newer players most likely will stop roleplaying after a few posts.

The problem is most of the newer players most likely will stop roleplaying after a few posts.

This leaves only four or five nations, which is hardly an apocolypse...

This leaves only four or five nations, which is hardly an apocolypse...

Indeed. Must wait for more.

Oh go on! I love a good war, I would like to fight either a nation the same size as me or maybe two or three smaller ones united together.

Oh go on! I love a good war, I would like to fight either a nation the same size as me or maybe two or three smaller ones united together.

The idea of the RP is some sort of "world ending" war, which is not easily accomplished with less than half a dozen nations...

The idea of the RP is some sort of "world ending" war, which is not easily accomplished with less than half a dozen nations...

Ah I can start wars easily, its the Clandonian way.

The problem is most of the newer players most likely will stop roleplaying after a few posts.

I roleplay to the death...infact many a time I have to be reminded the thread is dead, everyone gives up on me (even in their own RP's!). So I'm in for the long haul.

Ah I can start wars easily, its the Clandonian way.

Everyone can start a war, but that's not all that's required in a good role-play...

This has to be organized first - what are you guys going to be doing?

That's what I need every participating to know. I'm going on a religious berserk. What about the rest of you?

My nation won't be directly involved, but we do have a high rate of spies, assassins, mercenaries, etc.

Either they'll individually hire themselves out to the highest bidder, or possibly be orchestrated to make matters worse by one of your end-of-the-world cults.

I would like to probably join in after the war gets going, and I'm really good at creating another front. I don't really work good along with other supply-line-needing armies. My paratroopers are all that's needed to make some problems for a country, or more if its needed. But I'd like to be in this.

*Bump

Well, I would consider myself a dedicated RP-er... I would really enjoy this - I'd like to try it out. I mean, it could be really fun... well? Am I in, or am I too much of a n00b?

Am I in?

I should think so, you've more experience than most of these other newer nations...

Undershi, you're in.

Because Kormanthor is FT only , I would like to use my PMT nation Koramerica to enter this thread. I have an idea that would allow your thread to fit well with Kormanthor's Project Exodus, which is where Kormanthor has moved to a new star system leaving Koramerica to manage their Earthly holdings. Because I know there is a concern of over use of nukes I think Koramerica could be of help in controlling any nuclear exchanges because of our ability to shoot them down. We could be a country that helps others in need and protect those who can't protect themselves from higher tech attacks. What do you think?

I'm interested. Death to the Facists, etc, etc.

So Would I be allowed to Join in then?

Both Novacom Proper and Admiral Kukonois Rebellion?

And this would be written as Alternate history I'm assuming.

Because Kormanthor is FT only , I would like to use my PMT nation Koramerica to enter this thread. I have an idea that would allow your thread to fit well with Kormanthor's Project Exodus, which is where Kormanthor has moved to a new star system leaving Koramerica to manage their Earthly holdings. Because I know there is a concern of over use of nukes I think Koramerica could be of help in controlling any nuclear exchanges because of our ability to shoot them down. We could be a country that helps others in need and protect those who can't protect themselves from higher tech attacks. What do you think?


So can I join?

Anyone is allowed in, though you have to state specifically what you plan on doing. This is going to be cluttered if not organized well enough.

Well, Leafanistan's traditional leader died and promised to return and gave directions to a star light years from here.

And Leafanistan has been losing the ability to control itself and religious fervor is rising. They'll likely go on a 'crusade' to convice everyone that High Father is the true lord and demand they all go to that star.

Of course as the world falls apart, nukes fly, and disease spreads, a few ships will make it to the stars and this will effectively create our FT intro.

I'm thinking of Having my Rebel Admiral Kukonois launching a crusade against a nation and a prophecy about the end of the world being made by my legendary prophetess Viginias unless x y z happens, and base it off what someone is doing so I can really throw Novacom in to fight like I've never fought before.

Might I suggest you start the RP--as Apocalypse should happen in the first ten pages with with six or seven RPers-- and leave it open, as in people may join as it progresses...like a real war.

As it stands it looks like you are tryingto get a looney tunes cat fight going where suddenly a dozen nations just jump on the back of a dozen nations...

I will join after the war starts...but my nation would never jump in a fight that hadnt started yet, never.

Plus if you get the ball rolling now you have placed people in a position that they now have something invested in the story.

Might I suggest you start the RP--as Apocalypse should happen in the first ten pages with with six or seven RPers-- and leave it open, as in people may join as it progresses...like a real war.

As it stands it looks like you are tryingto get a looney tunes cat fight going where suddenly a dozen nations just jump on the back of a dozen nations...

I will join after the war starts...but my nation would never jump in a fight that hadnt started yet, never.

Plus if you get the ball rolling now you have placed people in a position that they now have something invested in the story.

I second Skibereen's motion, and also suggest that we try to keep a "Death Count" type thing going, where any time that a city gets nuked or a military unit gets wiped out or nerve gas kills a few thousand people, or a bio-engineered plague is released, we all post about those deaths on that thread. Then, when the war is over, we can see how many people have died... does that sound like a good idea?

I'll join. My Defenses need to be tested. I'm a island nation with 4000 miles of coastline.

Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488598)

I think the death toll idea is pretty good. And yeah, we should definately get this started, and as for others, they can always join in as needed.

But what incident is enough to get all of us into it and some sort of Deus ex machina pulverizes us later on.

Maybe while we are busy a series of solar flares knocks out our satellites and we have to fight war the dirty old fashioned way.

I think we should allow chemical weapons but not biological and nuclear ones until the 'endgame'.

But what incident is enough to get all of us into it and some sort of Deus ex machina pulverizes us later on.

Maybe while we are busy a series of solar flares knocks out our satellites and we have to fight war the dirty old fashioned way.

I think we should allow chemical weapons but not biological and nuclear ones until the 'endgame'.

I concur. Nuclear weapons can be saved till later.

I would join, but I've got a bad record when it comes to finishing RPs, and posting regularly. So maybe. I'll get back to y'all later.

Think the typical demon: horns, spitting fire, ripping hearts out, immune to weapons, but lets say they can only stay on this plane for 1 day after they are summoned. I can keep them limited to the areas of a nuclear bomb, so it would be much the same. Would this be fair?

I don't they should have total immunity to weapons. But if I'm out voted I do have people with magical abilities that could counter them.

Don't underestimate yourself. Even a very small force can achieve great results depending on what they do.

Yes they can Sovistan and I will supply you with training and equipment needed to make you a formable force if you will except my help.

Hm maybe Frozopia can be involved in this.....

Koramerica will be a PMT Nation for the most part, but also with some troops with magical abilities that can aid in the defense against demon attacks. Koramerica is my PMT stand in, I Kormanthor will supply Koramerica with whatever is needed to operate in this thread. Also I through Koramerica will aid smaller countries like Sovistan in training and equipment if needed and excepted. My countries magical abilities is well documented through my elven, dwarven and Gold Dragon communities.

Sovistan if you are interested in our help please let me know what you need and we will see about getting it to you.

Also on the matter of restricting any weapons use..I would be against that.
I use ER(Enhacned Radiation--see Neutron) and Tactical Nuclear devices which have a drastically lower effect then strategic weapons. But, even strategic nukes can be used Surgically, and ...what better way to make people jump up then an errant nuke vaporizing a city?

Might i suggest that we realy on the good form of the RPers to control their WMDs so it doesnt turn in to OMG I n00k j00z I vyn eye vyn!!1!11!1
As opposed to arbitrary rules on whne and what is appropriate.

Just a suggestion---and for the record I ma not stating my intentions because I can not do so untilt he fight has begun, regardless of alternative history RP i will not violate my political nature by just saying "Offender/Protector". I need a reason, my people need a reason.

What about pairing people of similar sizes up for the first part of it?

I haven't done a lot of Rp'ing on Nationstates at all really, so I DEFINTELY won't be joining in until later, but it does sound like great fun! :) And yes I'm worried that after that the first WMD is released, it is going to be bomb crazy! So I think there should be a lot of planning before real destruction really happens, instead of

'OMG you just destroyed all of my cities so now I'm gonna nuke ur ass N00b'
'Fine then am gonna nuke your ass back n00b'
'Aww man i wanna nuke somoene now!'

See what I mean?

But

YES! I WILL JOIN! .. later :)

Since this is supposed to be a doomsday apocalyptic war, and I'm such a tiny nation, and consequently lack any WMDs, would anyone be willing to sell (in the RP of course) a handful of small scale tactical nuclear, or chemical or biological weapons (something like a couple of 5kt bombs, or a handful of nuclear capable artillery shells , or something along those lines). Use of these weapons would obviously be restricted to the endgame.

As for when nukes should be used, I think it should be up to the individuals' discretion, so long as everyone acts reasonable and doesn't unleash a nuke storm. At least not until the end.

Since this is supposed to be a doomsday apocalyptic war, and I'm such a tiny nation, and consequently lack any WMDs, would anyone be willing to sell (in the RP of course) a handful of small scale tactical nuclear, or chemical or biological weapons (something like a couple of 5kt bombs, or a handful of nuclear capable artillery shells , or something along those lines). Use of these weapons would obviously be restricted to the endgame.

As for when nukes should be used, I think it should be up to the individuals' discretion, so long as everyone acts reasonable and doesn't unleash a nuke storm. At least not until the end.

I won't sell you Nukes but I will sell you missiles and laser systems to shoot nukes down with.

I would suggest laying off WMDs for the most part-- they don't make things very interesting. Perhaps there are a lot of storm systems or clouds of volcanic ash or something that make it too hard to attack with most types of orbital weapons systems or ICBMs? (this is assuming no one has the exact coordinates for wherever).

With regards to what Axis Nova will be doing in this RP, basically, land grab and attempting to expand it's territory. In the process, it ends up butting heads with a lot of others...

Okay guys, are we ready to start the IC thread yet? I'm looking forward to finally having someone effectively invade my nation's mainland, so that I can use all the super heavy defenses I've got in place within my nation.
I mean, that would be awesome... anyone up for invading my nation in this RP?

Koramerica stands ready to start the IC Thread

I'm going to join in on this war. Reasons: More Land (serious population crisis). Also, I suggest no one use too many nukes in one RL Day. Once, a single nuclear assault on my nation destroyed all life on Earth. The attack was retracted, but the point still remains. On the plus side, I finally get to test my nuclear weapons, biological weapons, and the full force of my terrorist force.

So, where's the IC thread? Could someone give a link?

Oh, and Nova Brittanica, not to be odd or anything, but I would comment that NS Physics seem to be a little different from RL Physics - i.e., a much larger world that seems to be much less suceptable to enviornmental damage. Or at least, that's how it's generally RPed.
Anyways, just out of curiosity, how would a nuclear attack against one nation end all life on earth?

Count me in

I think the best way to do it is to have the Sun act up. There is a huge solar storm, every single last satellite is knocked out, no exception, and for the duration of the war, the solar storm lasts, ensuring no Ballistic Missiles. Also without satellite guidance, many cruise missiles are doomed too.

It should cloud electronic systems and provide some interference and prevent cruise missiles from being used.

This makes for a much more brutal war, with close in actions with big guns, short range missiles, and land warfare without the accurate air and naval assistance.

I think the best way to do it is to have the Sun act up. There is a huge solar storm, every single last satellite is knocked out, no exception, and for the duration of the war, the solar storm lasts, ensuring no Ballistic Missiles. Also without satellite guidance, many cruise missiles are doomed too.

It should cloud electronic systems and provide some interference and prevent cruise missiles from being used.

This makes for a much more brutal war, with close in actions with big guns, short range missiles, and land warfare without the accurate air and naval assistance.

The Earth's magnetic field would ensure that things inside the atmosphere would still be working properly. A disruption of sufficient magnitude to wipe out radar and most advanced electronics entirely would a) turn this RP into The SD Show (tm) and b) drastically slant things in the favor of numbers, and c) be sufficient to seriously harm the Earth's biosphere in any case, thus making the RP itself pointless. So, no solar storm.

Also, a solar storm wouldn't affect ICBM or cruise missiles if they used inertial guidance.

I suggest this just be resolved in whichever way the nation being affected finds most convenient-- cloud cover/whatever for Axis Nova, solar storm effects for Leafistan, maintenance issues for other people, et cetera, et cetera.

I think the best way to do it is to have the Sun act up. There is a huge solar storm, every single last satellite is knocked out, no exception, and for the duration of the war, the solar storm lasts, ensuring no Ballistic Missiles. Also without satellite guidance, many cruise missiles are doomed too.

It should cloud electronic systems and provide some interference and prevent cruise missiles from being used.

This makes for a much more brutal war, with close in actions with big guns, short range missiles, and land warfare without the accurate air and naval assistance.

That will work only against the countries who didn't think to shield there electronics against microwave damage.

Indeed, which would slant things even more in favour of larger nations, they having the capitol if invest in such sheilding.

True, so something else, I suggest a shortage of nonrenewable resources causing a massive war by large and nonreneweable resource poor nations to take above said resources from smaller or more resource rich nations. (it doesn't have to be smaller nations with resources or larger nations with few, it could be other way around.

True, so something else, I suggest a shortage of nonrenewable resources causing a massive war by large and nonreneweable resource poor nations to take above said resources from smaller or more resource rich nations. (it doesn't have to be smaller nations with resources or larger nations with few, it could be other way around.


That would slant things in favour of the PMT nations as they have the capitol and technology to mine the asteroid belt were there is no shortage of resources.

Okay guys, how's this for an idea. Some random small nation bordering on a larger nation is about to be annexed by that larger expansionistic nation, which wants its oil/uranium/whatchamacallit. The larger nation sends in a diplomat/member of royal family to negotiate a peaceful surrender on the part of the smaller nation, but then some anti-large nation terrorists assassinate the diplomat/member of royal family from large nation.
So, Large Nation invades, but other nations come in on the side of Small Nation, leading to a World War One-like scenario where all the alliances drag people in. Well? Do you like that idea?

sounds interesting, and highly HIGHLY probable. I like it.

Okay guys, how's this for an idea. Some random small nation bordering on a larger nation is about to be annexed by that larger expansionistic nation, which wants its oil/uranium/whatchamacallit. The larger nation sends in a diplomat/member of royal family to negotiate a peaceful surrender on the part of the smaller nation, but then some anti-large nation terrorists assassinate the diplomat/member of royal family from large nation.
So, Large Nation invades, but other nations come in on the side of Small Nation, leading to a World War One-like scenario where all the alliances drag people in. Well? Do you like that idea?

Why would everyone be in an alliance together anyway?

A good seventy percent of the people I've seen here are newbs of some sort, and the others are giants, neither of which are involved in too many alliances with eachother. The only way to do a major war like this, outside of alliance systems, is something universal.

1) Resources, someone discovers some new resource or creates some energy device or somesuch, and everyone wants it.

2) Some religion declares a crusade against another religion, dragging the 'godless' heathen in as well, showing them the way or just torching their hovels.

3) Encroaching ice-age creates massive fuel and food shortages, and smaller nations pile onto larger, resource-rich nations.

and so on...

Okay guys, how's this for an idea. Some random small nation bordering on a larger nation is about to be annexed by that larger expansionistic nation, which wants its oil/uranium/whatchamacallit. The larger nation sends in a diplomat/member of royal family to negotiate a peaceful surrender on the part of the smaller nation, but then some anti-large nation terrorists assassinate the diplomat/member of royal family from large nation.
So, Large Nation invades, but other nations come in on the side of Small Nation, leading to a World War One-like scenario where all the alliances drag people in. Well? Do you like that idea?


Yes I like that idea, but I would like to point this out before we start. Koramerica is not a large country in and of itself, however Kormanthor is a very large country and birthed Koramerica to be it's PMT / MT equivalent. In other words Kormanthor backs Koramerica because the person behind both is one and the same. I as Koramerica will come to the aid of the small nation against the big country if they are doing any of the things mentioned above with the full power of Kormanthor, this I vow.

How about I just declare a Holy War against everything and you guys work from there?

Alright, I'm trying to deviate from the plot line so far, so here's what I believed would be fairly interesting to role play.

The role play will have to be split into 3 main plot lines. The beginning concerns the boiling uneasiness and the frequent land skirmishes that the larger nations will be doing. The smaller nations I suggest could form alliances in an attempt to become a coalition and wipe out the larger enemies they could.

-Larger nations bicker and fight
-Smaller nations plot to destroy them

The second one will slowly degenerate as the larger nations begin to be worn down, which is when the coalition of smaller nations begin to fight the larger nations.

The third and last one is where everything goes nuclear. The NS world is much larger than RL, so we can't let any nukes go amiss.

Alright, so these 'land skirmishes', would we be fighting over each other's territory, invasions of mainlands and such?

Would the first step be your Holy War, directed against the larger, more obvious enemies, allowing the smaller nations to slip under the radar, and begin their scheming as your suggested?

All in all, sounds very good.

it sounds like a good idea, especially for some smaller, more ambitious nations. This could work.

Alright, so these 'land skirmishes', would we be fighting over each other's territory, invasions of mainlands and such?

Would the first step be your Holy War, directed against the larger, more obvious enemies, allowing the smaller nations to slip under the radar, and begin their scheming as your suggested?

All in all, sounds very good.

Yeah, my Holy War is the first step. I will declare the larger nations involved as 'disbelievers', then begin a Holy War one-by-one. The large nations could fight against me (for intrusion of another nation's sovereignty) or with me (a chance to get some more land and resources from a 'hapless victim'). This of course is simply just consisting of land skirmishes and medium sized campaigns (some strikes and a front or two, but nothing massive until later on).

So in the first thread while the larger nations are fighting amongst each other, the smaller nations could hold secret conferences and build up their forces as well as see how the larger nations fight to exploit the weaknesses and such.

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Advertising your forums on Max's...great move. /sarcasm

Okay, I'd go with the ideas set up by Emperor Pudu, or by anyone in fact... as soon as we've got a semi-plausible reason, I'd like this RP to begin. So? What do you guys think about those ideas? Are we ready to go?

I like Jenrak's idea, and agree, that we should definately get this RP going.

Koramerica stands ready

Undershi also stands ready... obviously. When will this start?

The nation of Scaveutland stands ready.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509810

F3AR TEH END OF DA WORLD!1!

Jenrak, I just checked out your official site...wow

And I posted in the thread, nothing big, just a post to get my name out there. So far, raithal's just sitting by while the larger nations duke it out.

Jenrak, I just checked out your official site...wow

And I posted in the thread, nothing big, just a post to get my name out there. So far, raithal's just sitting by while the larger nations duke it out.

Thanks, I'm updating it.

Jenrak, I just posted on that thread you posted, now - is that the appropriate thread for the IC stuff? If so, great, if not, could someone post a link to that? Thanks.

I’ll have a reply up by the end of the day. Sorry I haven’t done so sooner, I’ve been cut-off from the inter-web by weather-related inconveniences…

Undershi, Jenrak is an island of its own as far as I know...

Undershi, Jenrak is an island of its own as far as I know...

There are lands to the south that aren't labeled, further south than even the Krejei empire. Those lands, me and Undershi have come to an agreement, are his.

There are lands to the south that aren't labeled, further south than even the Krejei empire. Those lands, me and Undershi have come to an agreement, are his.

Alright then.

Also, again, I am sorry, but I cannot post until tonight... I swear! It's half-written on my computer. Not like I have anything to do now anyway...

Check.

For me, I'm going to be a bit busy. I've got exams next week, but after that I'll go back to daily posts. I'll still try to post occassionally, OK?

For me, I'm going to be a bit busy. I've got exams next week, but after that I'll go back to daily posts. I'll still try to post occassionally, OK?

No problem.

Sorry for not posting yet, I've been trying to think up a good entrance post that looks at least as good as some of you guys'. I'm a lot better at the smashing and breaking of things than I am thinking up characters >.<

Sorry for not posting yet, I've been trying to think up a good entrance post that looks at least as good as some of you guys'. I'm a lot better at the smashing and breaking of things than I am thinking up characters >.<

Heh, at least you have characters. Everyone in my Dominion is bred, trained, and taught to think and behave exactly alike...

Sorry for not posting yet, I've been trying to think up a good entrance post that looks at least as good as some of you guys'. I'm a lot better at the smashing and breaking of things than I am thinking up characters >.<

Lol.

Heh, at least you have characters. Everyone in my Dominion is bred, trained, and taught to think and behave exactly alike...

Look above.

I just wanna check some stuff, i know this is a MT war, but is it a 'what if right now (all our political views are the same as they are now) or is it set in 10 or 20 years time when we may have different leaders ect. ?

Well, I'd guess it's right now... but that's really up to Jenak, since this is his RP. So, Jenak, are you going to let Herastall change his government?

So, what's going on in the war so far?

1) Jenrak affected by religious orgasm, sees Undershi first and explodes.

2) Leafanistan declares war on Raithal, invasion imminent.

3) I decide to wage massive genocidal war against all life, but haven't done anything yet.


And that's all so far, correct? We need more stuff to happen.

Well, I'd guess it's right now... but that's really up to Jenak, since this is his RP. So, Jenak, are you going to let Herastall change his government?

He can change it if he wants to. If it's nothing too sudden to the roleplay in mind, then sure, go ahead.

I just wanna check some stuff, i know this is a MT war, but is it a 'what if right now (all our political views are the same as they are now) or is it set in 10 or 20 years time when we may have different leaders ect. ?

It is purely a 'what if' scenario. Obviously my country won't find it economically viable to go on a end of the world killing spree.

So, what's going on in the war so far?

1) Jenrak affected by religious orgasm, sees Undershi first and explodes.

2) Leafanistan declares war on Raithal, invasion imminent.

3) I decide to wage massive genocidal war against all life, but haven't done anything yet.


And that's all so far, correct? We need more stuff to happen.

I also randomly crushed an ally that is inactive so most of military actually isn't directed at Raithal. And if you'll notice, there is no invasion fleet with it. This is an extermination fleet.

I also randomly crushed an ally that is inactive so most of military actually isn't directed at Raithal. And if you'll notice, there is no invasion fleet with it. This is an extermination fleet.

Death brings salvation. Spread the kiss of Izmishna to open up the gates to Enkur's Paradise!

I'd be interested in joining this soiree, i'm a billion and a half with a 14 trillion military budget... could be higher, but i have a few dastardly bio weapons in need of some testing, and my country has had a strong desire to "civilize" a few foreign nations.

I'd be interested in joining this soiree, i'm a billion and a half with a 14 trillion military budget... could be higher, but i have a few dastardly bio weapons in need of some testing, and my country has had a strong desire to "civilize" a few foreign nations.

Sure, go ahead.

Okay, this is finally heating up. Nice.

I'd be interested in joining this soiree, i'm a billion and a half with a 14 trillion military budget... could be higher, but i have a few dastardly bio weapons in need of some testing, and my country has had a strong desire to "civilize" a few foreign nations.

I need someone to invade, interested?

I'm four point seven (or so) billion nation, with a twenty-trillion military budget and a host of PMT-style soldiers.

I'm a bit of a stat monkey, but i finally got around to pumping my military up to around 24,000,000 men. What would you be invading with?
I'd be happy to post an insanely detailed orbat, but its not fully up to date (I haven't updated it since a billion people ago...). My military, as it stands now, has about 9,000,000 dedicated combat personale (with other soldiers not dedicated to combat but certaintly capable of fighting), including a 2,000,000 man strong city garrison. The rest of the population, in a sinch, can act as an irregular combat force, and are equipped with either Steyr Aug A3's or government-issued M-16 a4's chambered in 7.62 NATO or 6.8 SPC (regular military uses a doomingsland blended metal round, which is infinently more effective). Any invasion force that penetrated the regular forces would have to deal with the inevitable, large, insurgency. That and 200,000 Nakil IVs (soon to be nakil 2s!).

After looking through your wiki, i have a few questions:
Are all your cities subterranian? And what security systems do you have in place for this subway? Seems like it would be highly open to attack via biological weapon.

Sorry for the delay - it's exam week for me. I've got one more exam tommorrow, then I'm done. Still, I've found some time to post...

Only have a few minutes, but anyhow, would anyone like to be given the honor of the first breakout of a bio-weapon?

Raithal, where are you? I want to face your navy and someone to do something about my long range bombers.

I'm a bit of a stat monkey, but i finally got around to pumping my military up to around 24,000,000 men. What would you be invading with?
I'd be happy to post an insanely detailed orbat, but its not fully up to date (I haven't updated it since a billion people ago...). My military, as it stands now, has about 9,000,000 dedicated combat personale (with other soldiers not dedicated to combat but certaintly capable of fighting), including a 2,000,000 man strong city garrison. The rest of the population, in a sinch, can act as an irregular combat force, and are equipped with either Steyr Aug A3's or government-issued M-16 a4's chambered in 7.62 NATO or 6.8 SPC (regular military uses a doomingsland blended metal round, which is infinently more effective). Any invasion force that penetrated the regular forces would have to deal with the inevitable, large, insurgency. That and 200,000 Nakil IVs (soon to be nakil 2s!).

After looking through your wiki, i have a few questions:
Are all your cities subterranian? And what security systems do you have in place for this subway? Seems like it would be highly open to attack via biological weapon.

I have a standing combat force, of infantry, of about eighteen million Strelkovy basic-type infantry, as well as four million of my Grazskar Legionarries. I'd probably send one or two Army Groups, about four-million men, with the landing force, and then reinforce as needed.

Insurgencies don't bother me, I don't leave anyone behind me. Genocide is the answer to so many problems. It'll slow me down, defenitly, but I'm not stingey with chemical weapons, soooo...

Another note, I don't leap right to nuclear weapons, although it seems like that's what this thread is designed to culminate in, so I'm cool with that. I don't consider Biological and Chemical stuff as the whole "WMD" thing, as neither has too large an impact on me, unless something can be fed into the compounds (all of which have the massive subterranian layer), or is capable of eating through the armor that my combat forces always display.

Also, I too have a large civilian force, as the whole of my Farmer caste is somewhat trained, and armed with older AK models, the 107, I think...

The rest of my military uses normal tungsten rounds in 8.12x39mm format, chambered as a less 'long-range' round, as it destabalises, but is gruesome in close, where the military is designed to operate. Snipers and squad marksmen use different calibers.

Finally, the subway's only real defense is it's submerged position. If anyone wants to dig down, punch through a relativly wimpy steel/concrete shell, and pump it with nerve gas... Well, you'd need alot of gas, and a big digger-thing, my nation is big, and the subway is about a half-mile below the surface. It was made through use of a few dozen giant tunnel-digger things, which bore a hole through bedrock, line the walls with concrete plates, reinforce them, and lay a roadway/railway behind them. Those things are amazing, real-life stuff, I've seen them work.

Anyway, any particular reason I should choose you to invade (IC'ly), other than the fact that I've declared war on just about everything. Not openly, but that's our decision... What would you be known for, should I have a reason to initiate pre-emptive strike before the war goes "global"?

Could I call in a few allies for this thread? I think the CA might be interested in this...

Could I call in a few allies for this thread? I think the CA might be interested in this...

Why not, it's supposed to be a global thing.

i would loveto be the spark for this.My nation need invades the neutural country for natural resources that my country has long since depleted.

My full miltary power includes orbital bombardment,hired mercenaries numbering in the 100 millions anda group of super elite veteran warriors armed with high tech weaponry and psychic abilities.

when will we begin?


EDIT:is this modern times or future times?

I'm resource rich, but, with threats of kravenite invasions, you'd have to punch through a hostile populance which has faced genocide before, a fully modernized AI-controlled airforce, and a rather powerful navy for the size of my nation (3,500 ish combat surface ships), and a 12-army group strong land force (reinforced by 200+ divisions of city garrisons). I wouldn't want to, or, for that matter, need to, punch through the subway to dump chemicals; the US Army found that the NYC subway system provides a "plunger effect," dispersing quite potently a bio or chemical weapon throughout the entire city. Basically, I'd clandestinly meet with your indigenous rebel force, have some of their elites set it off in your subway (no explosion required), causing the virus to spread over much of the country. It is both blood-borne and airborne, depending on the phase, causes auto-cannibalism, and leaves the body smelling minty fresh. I'll, of course, leave that until after you attempt an invasion.

As far as I can tell, the RP proper has only just started, no? Is there still room for me?
@Undershi:
Have you ever written a post (IC or OOC) without a title? 'Cause I don't think you have!

So, just so I have this clear...

The situation is that a bunch of nations finally managed to drag my non-threatening nation to the point of openly useing WMD?

And it doesn't mean anything...

Finally...

I see it as a chance for me to expend the few dozen thousand or so khan-class missiles I have, along with an actual war for a change.

As far as I can tell, the RP proper has only just started, no? Is there still room for me?
@Undershi:
Have you ever written a post (IC or OOC) without a title? 'Cause I don't think you have!

No, I have never, in my entire NS career, written a post without a title. So what?!? I'm just OCD that way...

Oh, and Krow man, are you going to get involved in this? That'd be cool...

I'm looking for the right oppourtunity to jump in, Religous Fervour isn't quite reason enough for me to go leaping in, however the results of that fervour very much will be.

My full miltary power includes orbital bombardment,hired mercenaries numbering in the 100 millions anda group of super elite veteran warriors armed with high tech weaponry and psychic abilities.

Defense: W$6,167,583,096,220.00 40%

Something tells me you don't... You do have a few trillion dollars to throw around, but remember, you have to feed, clothe, and pay all your soldiers, as well as pay for the maintenance of your stuff.

You couldn't afford that many mercenaries, with the logistical strength that would be required to deploy nearly anywhere... Your soldiers may be what you consider elite, but many, many other nations could best you should they wish.

Psychic abilities? Elaborate.

Finally, the war has already begun. The spark cannot be something so small as one nation against another, it has to be a wave of violence across the spectrum, finally leaving the largest alive and culminating in a massive end-o'-the-world type warscape.

I see it as a chance for me to expend the few dozen thousand or so khan-class missiles I have, along with an actual war for a change.

Alright, so, are we waiting for me to start our little conflict?

Alright, so, are we waiting for me to start our little conflict?

Sure; I have some details on procurement to work out with Questers and TSS, but since this is hypothetical, i don't think it will matter too much. I recently upped my military to consume around 16% of my GDP (which is still under what thirdgeek says i'm expending), so this will be a fight!

Map:
http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_jona/map%20of%20mer%20des%20ennuis.gif

Each city has 8 Home Guard Divisions charged as city garrisons, as well as disaster relief. They are further supplimented by the (aging) Maratime Guard and the Air Guard. The excecptions are Mer de Noms (The Capital) and Les Trois Villes (which is located on 3 islands), both of which have 24 divisions of guardsmen. The Air Guard operates 3,370 fighters and bombers (400 b-52s, 200 b-1bs, 50 b-52s, 600 f/a-18 E's, 840 F-35s, 1,250 F-22s, and 30 Prowlers) and the Maritime guard operates 10 battle groups (each with, 2 R-11 Princep de Austrias STOVL Carriers, 3 LHD-8 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships, 3 CG-73 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers, 3 D32 Type 45 "Daring" Anti Air Destroyers, 3 DDG-106 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers, 6 FFG-61 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates, 15 LCS-3 Litoral Combat Ships, 4 SSN-22 Seawolf Attack Submarines, 2 T-AOE-10 Supply Class Oiler, 4 LVS-6 Frank S. Besson Logistics Supply Ship, 4 T-ARK 310 Fast Sealift Ship).

Each Guardsmen Division is equipped with the following (note: the starstreak and javelin are subject to change, pistols not included since they probably will never be fired. There are 232 guardsmen divisions in the country.)
Men - 20,564
Infantry - 8,940 (primary combatant)

Weapons
DR-83-2 Tactical Rifle - 10,004
DMG-83 SAW - 1,074
General Dynamics M312 - 162
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile System - 324
Star streak Anti-Air - 354
Pale Rider Arms M220 8x60 - 324
M252 81mm Mortar - 636
DAC-97 SMG - 3,622

vehicles - Combat
M777A1 - 48 (Ultra-light weight 155mm field howitzer)
4s8m Triarius BADS - 36 (Doomingsland's Best Air-Defence Vehicle)
ZSU-23-4 Shilka - 240 (with improved radar! Yes it still sucks, but its awesome for anti-infantry!)
Merkava IV - 192

Vehicles - Logistical/CE
HEMTT 2 - 30
Palletized Load System - 296
MMPWV LV-08 - 472 (Soviet Bloc's Improved HMMWV, mine laying)
M557A3 Command and Control Posts - 315 (Improved variant)
SRE.14 Fernántes AVLB - 12
M139 mine dispenser - 12 (Launches a mix of "smart" area-denial mines, including anti-tank and anti-infantry)
Grizzley Breacher - 6
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover - 21
Mine Clearing Line charge - 12
Small Emplacement Excavator - 6
M88 Hercules - 80

Vehicles - Airborne
SV4 Goshawk - 182 (medevac, transport, light assault, mine laying)
SaAH-33A/OI-33A1 "Svyatogor" - 24 (Soviet Bloc's awesome assault helo)
RQ-9 Predator B - 15

I'll post stats for the actual airforce/navy/army later tonight.

No, I have never, in my entire NS career, written a post without a title. So what?!? I'm just OCD that way...No reason, just think it's interesting:D

Oh, and Krow man, are you going to get involved in this? That'd be cool...I'm still waiting for one of the "big names" in the RP to confirm/deny my admission to the RP. Even if they say it's okay, my Defense Budget is **0** so I'd have to serve in a support role.

No reason, just think it's interesting:D

I'm still waiting for one of the "big names" in the RP to confirm/deny my admission to the RP. Even if they say it's okay, my Defense Budget is **0** so I'd have to serve in a support role.

Not really if you are ready help Koramerica, Kormanthor will finance you.

I'm still waiting for one of the "big names" in the RP to confirm/deny my admission to the RP. Even if they say it's okay, my Defense Budget is **0** so I'd have to serve in a support role.

Can you send me a link to an RP example you've done?

Can you send me a link to an RP example you've done?http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488273(It's FT)

I'd say let the man join - aside from his nation being full of filthy unwashed druggies, they're just fine... he's a decent RPer too.

Sure; I have some details on procurement to work out with Questers and TSS, but since this is hypothetical, i don't think it will matter too much. I recently upped my military to consume around 16% of my GDP (which is still under what thirdgeek says i'm expending), so this will be a fight!

Map:
http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_jona/map%20of%20mer%20des%20ennuis.gif

Each city has 8 Home Guard Divisions charged as city garrisons, as well as disaster relief. They are further supplimented by the (aging) Maratime Guard and the Air Guard. The excecptions are Mer de Noms (The Capital) and Les Trois Villes (which is located on 3 islands), both of which have 24 divisions of guardsmen. The Air Guard operates 3,370 fighters and bombers (400 b-52s, 200 b-1bs, 50 b-52s, 600 f/a-18 E's, 840 F-35s, 1,250 F-22s, and 30 Prowlers) and the Maritime guard operates 10 battle groups (each with, 2 R-11 Princep de Austrias STOVL Carriers, 3 LHD-8 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships, 3 CG-73 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers, 3 D32 Type 45 "Daring" Anti Air Destroyers, 3 DDG-106 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers, 6 FFG-61 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates, 15 LCS-3 Litoral Combat Ships, 4 SSN-22 Seawolf Attack Submarines, 2 T-AOE-10 Supply Class Oiler, 4 LVS-6 Frank S. Besson Logistics Supply Ship, 4 T-ARK 310 Fast Sealift Ship).

Each Guardsmen Division is equipped with the following (note: the starstreak and javelin are subject to change, pistols not included since they probably will never be fired. There are 232 guardsmen divisions in the country.)
Men - 20,564
Infantry - 8,940 (primary combatant)

Weapons
DR-83-2 Tactical Rifle - 10,004
DMG-83 SAW - 1,074
General Dynamics M312 - 162
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile System - 324
Star streak Anti-Air - 354
Pale Rider Arms M220 8x60 - 324
M252 81mm Mortar - 636
DAC-97 SMG - 3,622

vehicles - Combat
M777A1 - 48 (Ultra-light weight 155mm field howitzer)
4s8m Triarius BADS - 36 (Doomingsland's Best Air-Defence Vehicle)
ZSU-23-4 Shilka - 240 (with improved radar! Yes it still sucks, but its awesome for anti-infantry!)
Merkava IV - 192

Vehicles - Logistical/CE
HEMTT 2 - 30
Palletized Load System - 296
MMPWV LV-08 - 472 (Soviet Bloc's Improved HMMWV, mine laying)
M557A3 Command and Control Posts - 315 (Improved variant)
SRE.14 Fernántes AVLB - 12
M139 mine dispenser - 12 (Launches a mix of "smart" area-denial mines, including anti-tank and anti-infantry)
Grizzley Breacher - 6
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover - 21
Mine Clearing Line charge - 12
Small Emplacement Excavator - 6
M88 Hercules - 80

Vehicles - Airborne
SV4 Goshawk - 182 (medevac, transport, light assault, mine laying)
SaAH-33A/OI-33A1 "Svyatogor" - 24 (Soviet Bloc's awesome assault helo)
RQ-9 Predator B - 15

I'll post stats for the actual airforce/navy/army later tonight.

I have twelve army groups of 2,000,000 soldiers;
-One army group is divided between my navy and airforce to serve as para-troops and marines.
-Two army groups are devoted to the Grazskar Legions, whose ranks also include twelve divisions of independant marine and airborne forces.
-The final nine army groups are Strelkovy infantry formations.



Each army group is made up of four legions;
-The first three legions are infantry formations, each with five divisions of artillery and five divisions of armor, supplemented by fifteen divisions of mechanized infantry.
-The fourth legion is an armored legion, and includes five divisions of mobile artillery, five divisions of mechanized infantry, and fifteen divisions of Mekhev II main battle tanks


The basic contents of a division;
-An artillery division contains six-thousand guns or self-propelled peices, including anti-aircraft weapons. Generally there are about one-thousand tracked self-propelled anti-aircraft gun/missile systems in each division, with the remaining spots filled with either 155mm-280mm towed gun/howitzers or 155mm or 240mm self-propelled howitzers, both supplemented by 128mm self-propelled anti-tank guns. SIV-25 MGMS variant missile units are common in self-propelled and towed divisions as well.
-Infantry divisions contain 20,000 infantrymen, as well as 2,000 SIV-25 armored personnel carriers to transport them, as well as around eight-hundred LV-08 light wheeled multi-purpose vehicles and a few hundred Ural logistics trucks serving directly on the front. Also included in these formations are smaller towed guns such as the 90mm and 105mm gun/howitzers and 88mm and 125mm towed anti-aircraft guns.
-Armored divisions contain 6,000 tanks, usually the most recent generation MBT, the ST-39K1 Mekhev II, although older Mekhev Is and domestic GT-6B tanks are present as well. There are also two-thousand SIV-25 IFV and MGMS variants in these formations.



Each division is four 5,000 man or 2,000 vehicle/gun strong brigades, which are divided into five battalions, into five companies, into four platoons, into five squads. Infantry platoons are four infantry squads and a weapons/command squad. Armored and gun platoons just have five squads.


Air Force Personnel Distribution:
Aircraft Crews, Support Staff:
1,824,000 crewmen
Ships Crews, Support Staff:
740,000 crewmen
Aircraft Pilots:
456,000 pilots
Ground Vehicle Pilots:
326,000 pilots
Ground Forces Combat:
1,000,000 para-soldiers

Navy Personnel Distribution:
Aircraft Crews, Support Staff:
245,000 crewmen
Ships Crews, Support Staff:
12,750,000 crewmen
Aircraft Pilots:
268,000 pilots
Ground Vehicle Pilots:
1,480,000 pilots
Ground Force Combat:
1,800,000 marine-soldiers

Army Personnel Distribution:
Aircraft Crews, Support Staff:
984,000 crewmen
Ships Crews, Support Staff:
0 crewmen
Aircraft Pilots:
246,000 pilots
Ground Vehicle Pilots:
9,185,000 pilots
Ground Force Combat:
18,000,000 mechanized-soldiers

Grazskar Personnel Distribution:
Aircraft Crews, Support Staff:
371,400 crewmen
Ships Crews, Support Staff:
525,000 crewmen
Aircraft Pilots:
92,850 pilots
Ground Vehicle Pilots:
2,150,000 pilots
Ground Force Combat:
2,000,000 mechanized-soldiers
1,500,000 marine-soldiers
500,000 para-soldiers


Complete Military Fighting Strength: 53,018,850
Complete Military Logistical Strength: 371,131,950

Complete Strength: 424,150,800

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488273(It's FT)

Sure, looks good. You're in.

Oh, and Undershi, I'll write up a post once my writers' block can be done with.

I origionally had artillery divisions/transport divisions/etc., but I found that it was too unrealistic (especially after reading a few Army Staff College text books). Since I don't have more than 10 minutes, I'll detail my armored divisions here.

Armored Division:
Divisional Assets
1 Company Headquarters
1 Batallion signals
1 Batallion air defence
1 Batallion military intelligence
1 Company NBC
1 Company Military Police

combat units
3 Batallion Combat engineer
6 Batallion Armor
4 Batallion Mechanized
3 Platoon Radar DS

divisional artillery
1 company Headquarters + HQ battery
5 batallion Artillery
1 platoon radar

Aviation Assets
1 company HQ and command
3 batallion Attack Helicopter
1 batallion forward support

divisional support
1 company HQ/MM
2 batallion fwd spt

I won't go into details over lower echelons (like the mechanized and armored battalions), but each has organic communications, mortar (including nice anti-tank rounds), dedicated scouts, medics, support, etc. My armored divisions and my mechanized divisions are the same, save for a 1 battalion ratio difference between mechanized and armored (Mechanized is 5/5, armored division is 6/4). Combined, these two divisional types make up 60% of my general combat army. My light divisions have a high ratio of combatants to non-combattants (not requiring some of the man-power intensive support operations. Air assault is a light division with 3 additional "lift" battalions and 10 additional assault helicopter battalions.

Here is the sum total of my naval forces and air forces (Note: My airforce is made entirely of conventional planes converted into semi-autonomous drones (basic mission profiles are fed into a decentralized mainframe, which, in turn, has terminals in each plane. The planes crunch specifics and update date the generic mission requirements as they learn more. This has been debated on the NS Draftroom with little criticism.) I'll do armored/mechanized/air assualt/light specifics later, as well as sum totals. All naval aviation falls under the airforce.

Ennusian Air Force:
General:
Total number of Planes -119,490
Maintenance and Support Personal - 3,585,300
Combat Planes - 61,040
Short Range Bombers - 22,600
Long Range Bombers - 10,000
Logistical Planes - 8,850
Helicopters - 17,000

Naval Air Craft
C2 Greyhound - 300
SuEF-8 Crow - 120
E2-C Hawkeye - 180
GF-02 "Blizzard" Joint Strike Fighter - 11,040

Bombers
AC-130u Gunship - 100
SuB-4 Super Hurricane Ultra-Heavy Supersonic Strategic Bomber - 3,000
SuB-5 Sonic Supersonic Strategic Bomber - 7,000

Fighters/Bombers
SuF/A-6A/B Wraith Advanced Air Superiority Fighter - 15,000
SuF-7 Nightmare Twin-Engine Multi-Role Fighter - 35,000
SuA-1 Strikecat Close Air Support Aircraft - 22,500

Sensor/Cargo Aircraft
SuC-1 Stormbringer Heavy Strategic Airlifter - 2,500
SuKC-1 Stormfueler Heavy Tanker - 2,250
V22 Osprey - 1,500
SuE-1 Scanner AWACS/J-Star - 2,000

Helicopters
HV4 Goshawk -17,000

Ennusian Navy
Active Personal - 3,092,040
Port Personal - 103,068
Total Personal - 3,195,108

Carrier Battlegroups: 30
Amphibious Assault Groups: 30
Number of Combat Ships: 3870
Number of Support Ships: 1140
Total Ships: 5010

Carrier Battle Group (79 Ships)
1 Glorious Class SD/Renown Class (note, I have 2 renowns, and 1 hood. The glorious class might be changing between now and then)
2 Ocean Class CVN
4 Ravager Class Heavy Dreadnaught
6 Spiritus Dei Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser
8 Comberth Trimaran class Heavy Destroyers
8 Union Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyers
10 Dolphin Class Trimaran Anti-Submarine Warfare Frigates
4 SSDN Stingray Class
8 SSBN Relentless Class
12 Alpha Class Attack Submarine
4 Lem Class ASF
4 Wave Class Large Fleet Tanker
8 Quay Class LHR

Amphibious Assault Group (88 ships)
2 Ravager Class Heavy Dreadnaught
4 Spiritus Dei Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser
6 Union Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyers
6 Comberth Trimaran class Heavy Destroyers
8 Endeavour Class Large Combat Transport Ship
12 Dolphin Class Trimaran Anti-Submarine Warfare Frigates
16 Crocodile-Class LCS
2 SSDN Stingray Class
4 SSBN Relentless Class
6 Alpha Class Attack Submarines
4 Lem Class ASF
8 Gabin Class AKR
4 Wave Class Large Fleet Tanker
6 Quay Class LHR

Ennusian Air Guard
Prowler - 30
F-22 Raptor - 1,250
F-35 JSF - 840
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet - 600

Maratime Guard - 10 battle groups
National Guard Fleet - 10 (51 ships)
2 R-11 Princep de Austrias STOVL Carriers
3 LHD-8 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships
3 CG-73 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
3 D32 Type 45 "Daring" Anti Air Destroyers
3 DDG-106 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
6 FFG-61 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
15 LCS-3 Litoral Combat Ships
4 SSN-22 Seawolf Attack Submarines
2 T-AOE-10 Supply Class Oiler
4 LVS-6 Frank S. Besson Logistics Supply Ship
4 T-ARK 310 Fast Sealift Ship

Shore defences of past and likely spots for invasion are protected by theater-level anti-air missiles, Khan class missile battaries, 31.5 inch fixed gun emplacements, and a number of anti-shipping 16" towed howitzers.

Just for the record, i've calulated myself as spending 15% of my GDP (ish) on defense. While this certaintly is high, my nation IS under martial law.

I'll post the regular army's makeup later, but the quick totals are
Men - 13,229,376
Primary Combatants - 5,091,840

I origionally had artillery divisions/transport divisions/etc., but I found that it was too unrealistic (especially after reading a few Army Staff College text books).

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Ennusian Air Force:
General:
Total number of Planes -119,490

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I have 2 renowns, and 1 hood. The

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Shore defences of past and likely spots for invasion are protected by theater-level anti-air missiles, Khan class missile battaries, 31.5 inch fixed gun emplacements, and a number of anti-shipping 16" towed howitzers.

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I'll post the regular army's makeup later, but the quick totals are
Men - 13,229,376
Primary Combatants - 5,091,840

I too have tried to take a more realistic approach to designing my military, working it up from platoon and company level along US and British army lines, but I found that to fluid and to small-unit dependant. I have reverted to simple organizations, using large numbers and massed formations of whatever I need.

Secondly, I have integrated each formation with elements of another, for example, the Navy maintains a many more armored personnel carriers than the standard army, because the army only uses them in a one-to-ten man or three tank squads, while the naval marines use them in a far more supportive role with larger proportions.

Following is my air force strength, and a rundown of my navy;

Air Forces:
Ground-Based Attack, Fighter, Bombers:
25,000 F-78K Strakhen Sokol Air Superiority Fighters
14,000 F-41A Multi-Role STOVL Fighter Aircraft
8,500 A-89C Block 20 Molotok Close Air Support Aircraft
6,000 F/B-177A Barsuk Strike Bombers
10,000 MV-87KG Coba gunship aircraft
Transports:
40,000 MV-87K Coba VTOL Light Transports
45,000 A-06A Bastion Transport Planes
Rotary-Wing:
80,000 SAH-27A Peregrine Next Generation Attack Helicopters
100,000 HVC-03 Helicopter Transports
Capital Ships, Carriers:
9 Vengeance class Supercarriers
20 Glacier class Trimaran Fleet Carriers
27 Athios class Light Carriers
18 Perseus Class Stealth Carriers
Cruisers:
18 Helina class Battlecruisers
72 Carthage class Air Defense Cruisers
47 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
Frigates, Destroyers, Corvettes:
62 Swiftsure Class Trimaran Destroyers
40 Royale Class Frigates
18 Champlain Class Trimaran Frigates
APCs and IFVs:
100,000 GS-4 Lynx air assault APCs
Wheeled Light Vehicles:
100,000 LV-08 Light Infantry Vehicles
Artillery and AA systems:
24,000 GS-5 Cougar 125mm air assault self-propelled howitzers
150,000 GA-6 Leopard 105mm towed multi-purpose field gun/howitzers
150,000 GA-4 Fox 88mm towed anti-aircraft guns



General Purpose Battle Group x10
Naval Compliment:
3 Calypso Class Dreadnaughts (30)
6 Vengeance Class Supercarriers (60)
9 Glacier Class Aircraft Carriers (90)
12 Roydia RefitA Class Battleships (120)
12 Helina Class Battlecruisers (120)
18 Carthage Class Air Defense Cruisers (180)
18 Triara Class Light Cruisers (180)
24 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers (240)
24 Swiftsure Class Destroyers (240)
30 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers (300)
30 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers (300)
36 Champlain Class Frigates (360)
36 Lionfish Class Missile Frigates (360)
12 Emden Class Amphibious Assault Ships (120)
18 Forthar Class Submarines (180)
18 Port Class Submarines (180)
60 Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships (600)
18 Perrigon Class Minesweepers (180)
Air Compliment:
450 F-78KB Strakhen Sokol Naval Air Superiority Fighters (4,500)
174 F-41B Multi-Role STOVL Naval Fighter Aircraft (1,740)
60 HVC-02 ASW helicopters (600)
30 HVC-01 Naval Gunship helicopters (300)
12 HVC-03 Naval Transport helicopters (120)



Naval Invasion Battle Group x10
Naval Compliment:
12 Roydia RefitA Class Battleships (120)
12 Helina Class Battlecruisers (120)
14 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers (140)
24 Triara Class Light Cruisers (240)
48 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers (480)
48 Grevant Class Missile Frigates (480)
96 Shrike Class Helicopter Assault Ships (960)
48 Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships (480)
48 Normandy Class Heavy Combat Transport Ships (480)
Air Compliment:
2,880 HVC-02 ASW helicopters (28,000)
960 HVC-01 Naval Gunship helicopters (9,600)
Ground Compliment:
180,000 Guardians (1,800,000) [1st through 90th Guardian Marine Divisions]
18,000 GT-6B Lion main battle tanks (180,000)
14,000 SIV-25 infantry fighting vehicles (340,000)
44,000 LV-08 Light Infantry Vehicles (440,000)
12,000 Ural-43206 transport trucks (120,000)
10,000 GMA-3 Coyote 88mm gun and air defense missile systems (100,000)
6,000 GMA-5 Tiger 155mm self-propelled howitzers (60,000)
4,000 GMA-4 Grizzly 128mm self-propelled anti-tank guns (40,000)
20,000 GA-5 Panther 90mm towed gun/howitzers (200,000)
12,000 GA-6 Leopard 105mm towed gun/howitzers (120,000)
10,000 GA-8 Tiger 155mm towed gun/howitzers (100,000)
2,000 GA-9 Ocelot 240mm towed medium howitzers (20,000)



These are examples of some specific formations in my navy, as well as the entire capacity of my airforce. In addition, my navy has Light Battle Groups, Carrier Strike Groups, as well as smaller coastal groups and convoy escort formations, as well as submarine fleets and a single Covert Grazskar Battle Group.

My navy also maintains a massive Home Fleet, commanded by Grand Admiral Kadova, whose flagship is the largest ship in the Imperial Navy, the Emperor Pudu XLII, a Hood-class Heavy Battleship.

In any case, do you have a map of your nation I could check out before I throw up my first post of this little war? After I get that, it'll probably only take me a day or so to formulate a beginning to the RP. Thanks.

Is there no replacement for Raithal?

Great, when/on what side should I start? Also, if someone could give me an IC intro, that would be great.

Certaintly do, but it isn't topographical.

http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_jona/map%20of%20mer%20des%20ennuis.gif

Mer de Noms is the capital, and the surrounding settlements act as a shield.
Most of the western coast is pretty rocky, making amphibious assaults hard, especially with landing craft. Many of the islands south and west of Ville de Dieu are extremely rocky, and there are other rocky islands and shifting sandbars requring monthly charting updates. Helicopter and air assaults would be a much more viable option, though not easy; the central cities and countryside is fortified to defend the capital, and the restricted islands are extremely inhospitable and fortified for use as training regions. The eastern regions qualify as forested low and farmlands. Kraven Whyatica lead an invasion through Ville de la Morte, penetrating to the feet of the capital past Ville des Ames. Consequently, the area is much more heavily fortified with camoflodged static guns, towed howitzers, Khan Class Missile batteries, and the (greatly improved) mobile air defense missile the SA-400 Mk. 2 (made to be much more manuverable). There are several large dopplar radar arrays scattered around the country in a decentralized format (i.e. it is a number of smaller networked together across a kilometer-square area). The central airforce mainframe is in a concrete reinforced bunker south of La Lame De l'Epee, Naval Command is in Port d'Honneur, and the army command is in Mer de Noms. The homeguard HQ is a massive underground bunker in Les Trois Villes, northern command is located in La Lame De L'Epee, southern command is in Ville de la Vie, and central command is La Ville D'or.

Hope that is enough useful information. Naval bases, air fields, and army bases are scattered around the country, cept for the central region which is rather well fortified. We also try to keep up a nice EW shield over most of the nation. Looking forward to having an actual RP for a change.

Excellent map, very helpful. If it should ever be needed I have a paint-crafted map laying around somewhere...

Anyway, Either later tonight or tomorrow afternoon I can start the attack. I've already written well beyond my quota today, and doubt my ability to continue in the very near future, but I'll try. If not, then definitely tomorrow.

Anyway, I'm sending a few General Purpose fleets and Naval Invasion Groups with the 7th Grazskar Army Group and 4th Strelkovy Army Group to attack the southern coast. See you soon...

Great, when/on what side should I start? Also, if someone could give me an IC intro, that would be great.

What are you looking to do?

Undershi, do you have MSN or AIM?

Undershi, do you have MSN or AIM?

Well, the title says it all, but I'll say it again: no, I do not. Sorry. My computer has some weird protection software that prevents that sort of stuff from working. Sorry.

Pudu: Entertaining post to say the least. If you get the chance, can you edit the map to show me where exactly you are expected to invade (red arrows will do)? I'm going to role play it out that when you are 5 days out, my forces will contact your forces from our missile defense regions (this is presuming you do 30 knots straight ahead 24 hours a day, in which case you'd be well under my missile reach.) This is also the distance where stealth planes would deploy for surveliance. Since I don't want to half ass it, i'll do it either much later tonight or sometime tomorrow evening.

Hope this is accecptable with you.

Pudu: Entertaining post to say the least. If you get the chance, can you edit the map to show me where exactly you are expected to invade (red arrows will do)? I'm going to role play it out that when you are 5 days out, my forces will contact your forces from our missile defense regions (this is presuming you do 30 knots straight ahead 24 hours a day, in which case you'd be well under my missile reach.) This is also the distance where stealth planes would deploy for surveliance. Since I don't want to half ass it, i'll do it either much later tonight or sometime tomorrow evening.

Hope this is accecptable with you.

It's all good, edited map coming up...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/181/operationxc3.gif


OPARR fleet's components;
1 Roydia RefitA Class Battleship
1 Athios Class Light Carrier
1 Shrike Class Helicopter Assault Ship
3 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Triara Class Light Cruisers
8 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
12 Lionfish Class Trimaran Missile Frigates
1 Port Class Cruise Missile Submarine

(Three o' these 'ittle fleets headed your way.)

Allright, hitting the eastern shield cities then; its all good. Sonobouy line is between 3 and 4 days steam at 30 knots out; again meant to counteract Kraven invasions (he hit when it was under construction but before the main national mainframe was up... consequently it appeared as one gigantic blob...). This won't change the way I'll set up defense, but do you use SHBTs?

SHBTs?

SHBTs?

Super heavy battle tanks. If you want, i'm usually in the draftroom IRC channel, and we can discuss anything/plan out stuff there. Hopefully, though I doubt it, my post will be as good as yours (i have a habit of sucking at making good, descriptive IC posts).

Super heavy battle tanks. If you want, i'm usually in the draftroom IRC channel, and we can discuss anything/plan out stuff there. Hopefully, though I doubt it, my post will be as good as yours (i have a habit of sucking at making good, descriptive IC posts).

The Dominion does not use any Super Heavy Battle Tanks.

All we have are the Mekhev main battle tanks, Mekhev I and II, both quite advanced but neither any larger in chassis or cannon than an average tank.

Awesome, then the telephone-pole sized anti-tank mines will need to be recalibrated ICily (again, were origionally designed to knock out Axis Nova's big fucking tanks...)

Awesome, then the telephone-pole sized anti-tank mines will need to be recalibrated ICily (again, were origionally designed to knock out Axis Nova's big fucking tanks...)

I've never considered a tank that large to be economical. He must have some rather large tanks...

Only once before have I fought SHBTs, and in that instance I called in an expeditionary force from an ally of mine who does use the bigger stuff to counter them. They never actually came to blows, maybe the deterrent worked...

Awesome, then the telephone-pole sized anti-tank mines will need to be recalibrated ICily (again, were origionally designed to knock out Axis Nova's big fucking tanks...)

It's nice to feel wanted :)

Amusingly enough, my Admiral A-1s are considered rather lightweight for a superheavy by most people who design them.

I'll make some kind of mobilization post as soon as I finish figuring out what I want to bring and how I'm going to bring it. I won't post exact numbers as I prefer to not tell people in advance what I have (why do people's recon for them? >.>).

What are you looking to do?Have fun with an intresting RP:D. On the real though, I think that the only thing my people are suited to is providing tactical support and other stuff like that... If anyone can think of what a hippy-loving place named "The Nation of Purple Cows" could do in a situation like this one, which obviously requires their attention, I'd love to hear it.

Telephone-pole sized anti-tank mineshttp://forums.ego-farms.com/Smileys/default/buttrock.gif

http://forums.ego-farms.com/Smileys/default/buttrock.gif
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/berrik/Smileys/emot-rock.gif

Have fun with an intresting RP:D. On the real though, I think that the only thing my people are suited to is providing tactical support and other stuff like that... If anyone can think of what a hippy-loving place named "The Nation of Purple Cows" could do in a situation like this one, which obviously requires their attention, I'd love to hear it.

...Eh?

...Eh?hmmm...Maybe that didn't come out right...

hmmm...Maybe that didn't come out right...

Ah. *strokes long beard gently*

...Eh?

That's seconded. What was that about?

I''m in for the aiding nations.

I''m in for the aiding nations.

Cool.

I''m in for the aiding nations.Yeah! That's what I meant... really...

Yeah! That's what I meant... really...

Very nice.

Very nice.Thanks?

I''m in for the aiding nations.

Can I invade you? I need something to kill. I'm in a dry spell, come on.

Sorry if I've slowed anything down, I took a holiday break.


Alright, I'll have a post up regarding my OPARR fleet and Pudite Naval High Command reactions tomorrow...

Sorry if I've slowed anything down, I took a holiday break.


Alright, I'll have a post up regarding my OPARR fleet and Pudite Naval High Command reactions tomorrow...

Nope, its cool. I've taken the downtime to play flight simulator 2004; with any luck, i'll make instrument rated pilot and commercial rated pilot tonight! woo!

Nope, its cool. I've taken the downtime to play flight simulator 2004; with any luck, i'll make instrument rated pilot and commercial rated pilot tonight! woo!

Efficient use of time, lol.

Anyway, I'll either go off and post right now, or do it later tonight. Either way, it happens before twelve hours goes by...

Anyhow, if there are no objections before 17:00 my time (two hours from now), I will make my grand IC entrance. Beware the wrath of the Purple Cows!

bah. something has come up, and I will be unable to follow through on my threat... stay tuned for further updates

Sorry Jenrak, I need something to do, and since no one has answered me I decided to go after you.

I feel as though I owe Undershi, but I can't recall why.

Another good post pudu; my girlfriend is coming down to visit me so i'll have sporradic access to NS for the next 10-12 days or so. I should have time for a post either later tonight or over the next few days. Most likely you'll get a nice missile strike from the Khan class missiles at the larger ships, the fighters will be recalled (they ARE almost at the point of no return, and the AI isn't stupid enough to ditch some planes into the sea for no reason).

I think I should warn you. In case you haven't noticed (unlikely...) I haven't been around much. That's because I've got family visiting for the holidays, and they're staying in the computer room, so I can't log on as easily. They leave New Years, so I'll be back after that.

No problem, everyone expects spotty posting over Christmas break and new year's :)

Another good post pudu; my girlfriend is coming down to visit me so i'll have sporradic access to NS for the next 10-12 days or so. I should have time for a post either later tonight or over the next few days. Most likely you'll get a nice missile strike from the Khan class missiles at the larger ships, the fighters will be recalled (they ARE almost at the point of no return, and the AI isn't stupid enough to ditch some planes into the sea for no reason).

Aye aye.

Happy New Year All!

Sorry Jenrak, I need something to do, and since no one has answered me I decided to go after you.

I feel as though I owe Undershi, but I can't recall why.

No problem, man.

I think I should warn you. In case you haven't noticed (unlikely...) I haven't been around much. That's because I've got family visiting for the holidays, and they're staying in the computer room, so I can't log on as easily. They leave New Years, so I'll be back after that.

No problem. I recently had to do some funeral-related activities as well, since my grandfather died on Christmas Eve.

No problem, man.

My condolences.

Should we begin large fleet actions against each other? If I need another reason, your religion stands in the way of our religious beliefs and we need more resources and people to build 'sleeper' ships to go to another world.

Anyone else who accepts the prophesy of High Father can join us. We must stop those who can't from squandering valuable resources.

My condolences.

Should we begin large fleet actions against each other? If I need another reason, your religion stands in the way of our religious beliefs and we need more resources and people to build 'sleeper' ships to go to another world.

Anyone else who accepts the prophesy of High Father can join us. We must stop those who can't from squandering valuable resources.

Doesn't matter to me.

Ahhh...

I can't wait for this to get going again, I have a burning urge to invade something...

I'm back. I'll post on the IC thread next thing... so, time to get back to nuclear annihilation, eh?

I need Mer des Ennuis to attack my OPARR fleet before I can continue, but he's busy right now, so I'm just waiting...

I need Mer des Ennuis to attack my OPARR fleet before I can continue, but he's busy right now, so I'm just waiting...

Ah, well, they do say that waiting is the hardest part. I wonder how it'll get when you get involved. Things look ready to get really ugly. I mean, the Jenak army is pushing into Undershi, heading towards the Martyr's Gate rail head, then the Leafanistanis came in on my side... this could be fun... :D

Sorry to keep you all waiting, i'll be home tomorrow around 2:00 pm, and this is getting my (near) undivided attention once I get unpacked.

Sorry to keep you all waiting, i'll be home tomorrow around 2:00 pm, and this is getting my (near) undivided attention once I get unpacked.

Excelent...

Pudu: Short post up; not much I could really say at this point in time. Maybe some elegant prose (or what passes for it) will rear its ugly head in the near future. You might want to read up on the khan class. Its quite good.
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Khan_Class_Missile

Sorry about my absence. There was an ice/snow storm, and I lost phone and internet service. I know, it sucks. But it's back now, so expect me to be once more involved at my prior level. Yay.

The newly created Republic of Itius is joing, I am looking for allies.

Old Jenrak left. I'm not familiar with this thread well enough, so sorry.

I think Jenrak left NS and gave his account to a friend. Oh well.

Old Jenrak left. I'm not familiar with this thread well enough, so sorry.

What does that mean? Could you clarify?

What does that mean? Could you clarify?

I'm not familiar with this roleplay. The one who was in control of this account no longer plays.

Well then... is this RP dead then?

Well then... is this RP dead then?

If you can tell me what's gone on so far, I will adapt.

If you can tell me what's gone on so far, I will adapt.

I am sorry, but if this is dead, than I am just going to accept it. I've been pretty busy, and this strangness just gives me a way out...

I'd like to try this again when I have some more time...

Alright, what's happened so far:

- Jenak invaded my nation, pushing in through the north. My forces aren't doing so well, all things considered, but they fight on heroically, even though they're heavily outnumbered. Still, they're losing.
- Leafanistan has come in on my side
- Some other nations are having their own little wars - the idea is to have a bunch of small-scale wars get bigger, and wind up with some other nations getting dragged in. Then, then we break out the nukes/nerve gas/genetically engineered plagues... you get the idea.

I want to deploy my terror troopers. My military is becoming more and more automated but this all depends on how well Jenrak's military gets freaked out.

You are underestimating the power of religion, hon.

Undershi:

Can we hold off the martyring because that hurts me too.

I want to deploy my terror troopers. My military is becoming more and more automated but this all depends on how well Jenrak's military gets freaked out.

If you let me deploy, I can do what me and Automagfreek discussed, get Silent Hill on people.

Undershi:

Can we hold off the martyring because that hurts me too.

I want to deploy my terror troopers. My military is becoming more and more automated but this all depends on how well Jenrak's military gets freaked out.

If you let me deploy, I can do what me and Automagfreek discussed, get Silent Hill on people.

Alright - give it a go. Anyways, those guys are only going to set off the atomic mine when the fort is almost overrun. So, you've got time.

Sorry about the wait, I will post when I understand it all, because I'm still reading through some things.

Alright... I'm back and I'm ready. Looking forward to seeing what happens next.

All right, I'll get a post up today.

All right, I'll get a post up today.

Cool. Let the slaughter continue...