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OOC Discussion: How do you see NationStates?

Nueve Italia
27-11-2006, 17:21
Maybe this doesn't belong in International Incidents, BUT. . . it has to do with the RPs here, so maybe it does.

What I want to know is how does everyone see the RPs here? I mean, sure, everything is actually just words, but come on, your imagination is just going to see letters and that's it?

To me, reading the posts and thinking about them (imagining, if you will) makes it all seem like a movie where you have almost no idea what's going to happen next. I see the characters, actions, cities, all as "real" (in a fictional sense) entities.

I don't know if I'm making much sense, but perhaps other people will understand.

So now I ask you: How do you picture NationStates?
Groznyj
27-11-2006, 17:24
I think anyone with a decent imagination can appreciate a good role-play. To me, the real good stories are the ones that suck you right in and create a whole movie in your head and you don't even realize how much time went by or even that your reading something because your so caught up with the story...kinda like a good book.
Vault 10
27-11-2006, 17:57
Well, most of the times, unfortunately, people are too busy wanking to bother about the story. But, when it happens, it's the same as reading a book - visualizing the events and feeling the characters.

My wish is that players would put "powergaming" aside and tried to make their posts interesting, turning to a collaborative story instead of a contest. When it happens, every participant benefits way more for becoming known as a good roleplayer, rather than when he "wins" a war which has no effect anyway.
Chronosia
27-11-2006, 18:10
I write for the story, nothing more, nothing less. Technology shoudl be nothing more than the props used to tell the story, the backdrop through which the key values are extrapolated. One reason I chose Chaos was because of the power wrapped up in emotion; tied up in the needs and desires of sentients.

When I read a good post, I can imagine it, visualise it. When I'm writing, I visualise to music, I imagine my characters and my settings. How they look, how they act. Everything. I just try and implement enough to tell the story professionally :P
Morvonia
27-11-2006, 18:27
I think anyone with a decent imagination can appreciate a good role-play. To me, the real good stories are the ones that suck you right in and create a whole movie in your head and you don't even realize how much time went by or even that your reading something because your so caught up with the story...kinda like a good book.


Ya to bad you have to go through 30 stinkers before you get one or two like that.
Mini Miehm
27-11-2006, 18:57
I write because I like writing. Coming out on top is a side benefit. Although the SQs of NS do tend to detract from my enjoyment.
Wanderjar
27-11-2006, 19:01
I think anyone with a decent imagination can appreciate a good role-play. To me, the real good stories are the ones that suck you right in and create a whole movie in your head and you don't even realize how much time went by or even that your reading something because your so caught up with the story...kinda like a good book.

Me too man. I'm the same way.
imported_Illior
27-11-2006, 19:14
I'm here for the enjoyment of reading a story, which is generally why I try to RP smaller confrontations, such as Northford's little uprising which fell apart, and Aequatio's uprising, as each was a good chance for me to use small group RPs, focusing on the characters and their actions. I was working on a smallish RP, but jolt ate the post...
Nueve Italia
27-11-2006, 20:31
The way I see it though is that a sense of competition here can actually make (sometimes) a better post as the poster has to go into more detail, more in-depth to the characters' minds and bodies in order to get their point across. To me though, sometimes when an RP plays out like you expect it to, it can be a little boring. I like it when something new comes out of the mist, and you're forced to kind of deal with it and react. Some of that is godmodding, which on its very level is most of the time impossible to react to, but if the action is justifiable, I think it just adds to a deeper essence of the story and movie-like persona that NationStates takes on.
Pan-Arab Barronia
27-11-2006, 21:10
A good war RP to me, is one that has you analyzing every aspect of the strategy - to me, right down to the groups of soldiers running for cover. Some of the descriptive work (the non-wanking kind) is fantastic, like you guys said, "a movie in your head".

Story RP's also, when written well, are fantastic. I am forever looking for new RP's, checking the first few posts, and, in the case it's a good 'un, I'm subscribed like a flash and am on every day looking at where it's progressing.
Ri-an
27-11-2006, 21:58
I write for the story of it, because there's apart of me that needs it, apart of me that can only be expressed through story. The RP's I've been in, and the Characters I've created, have shown me aspects of myself I thought I didn't posses, or at least did not posses in such great quantities. Sometimes this is disturbing.

But, I seem to run into threads that die :(

All the same, I've put so much into certain characters, that their more like diffrent aspects of me. The others, have reached that one magical point, that they seem to me, to be their own entites, each with their own life to live, their own stories to tell. Stats and facts bore me, and I don't want to understand them. I just want to tell my stories, and create my characters, truth be hanged.
I admit, on occasion their helpful, but not too often.
The Kraven Corporation
27-11-2006, 22:04
I see it as a film, when I write, I imagine whats happening, when I read other peoples stuff, I imagine whats happening, everything flows... I don't use stats or anything like that, because its not my style, i feel it detracts from the flow of the story, yeah, stats give a guideline as to what things are capable of, but if I wanted realism, I'd have joined the Army, or become a MP and ran for government...
Morvonia
27-11-2006, 22:28
i ask you, where else can i pretend i am incharge of a nation and not look crazy. go ahead tell my....muhahahahahaha *cough cough snize* argh muhahahaha and so on and so forth.
Southeastasia
28-11-2006, 01:47
I think anyone with a decent imagination can appreciate a good role-play. To me, the real good stories are the ones that suck you right in and create a whole movie in your head and you don't even realize how much time went by or even that your reading something because your so caught up with the story...kinda like a good book.
I write for the story, nothing more, nothing less. Technology shoudl be nothing more than the props used to tell the story, the backdrop through which the key values are extrapolated. One reason I chose Chaos was because of the power wrapped up in emotion; tied up in the needs and desires of sentients.

When I read a good post, I can imagine it, visualise it. When I'm writing, I visualise to music, I imagine my characters and my settings. How they look, how they act. Everything. I just try and implement enough to tell the story professionally :P
I write because I like writing. Coming out on top is a side benefit. Although the SQs of NS do tend to detract from my enjoyment.
I'm here for the enjoyment of reading a story, which is generally why I try to RP smaller confrontations, such as Northford's little uprising which fell apart, and Aequatio's uprising, as each was a good chance for me to use small group RPs, focusing on the characters and their actions. I was working on a smallish RP, but jolt ate the post...
The way I see it though is that a sense of competition here can actually make (sometimes) a better post as the poster has to go into more detail, more in-depth to the characters' minds and bodies in order to get their point across. To me though, sometimes when an RP plays out like you expect it to, it can be a little boring. I like it when something new comes out of the mist, and you're forced to kind of deal with it and react. Some of that is godmodding, which on its very level is most of the time impossible to react to, but if the action is justifiable, I think it just adds to a deeper essence of the story and movie-like persona that NationStates takes on.
I see it as a film, when I write, I imagine whats happening, when I read other peoples stuff, I imagine whats happening, everything flows... I don't use stats or anything like that, because its not my style, i feel it detracts from the flow of the story, yeah, stats give a guideline as to what things are capable of, but if I wanted realism, I'd have joined the Army, or become a MP and ran for government...
Agreed with all of the above listed.
Jenrak
28-11-2006, 02:00
I get minimal replies to my old posts. This saddens me.
Emporer Pudu
28-11-2006, 02:30
I get minimal replies to my old posts. This saddens me.

I haven't seen any new posts from you lately... Your nation is so developed, you have such a history, with names going back through families and languages...

When someone has a backdrop like that to write against, you cannot help but be great.

Anyway, I predict this thread fills up in a few days with people quoting and agreeing with the first seven, and so I'll not do that. You're welcome.
Jenrak
28-11-2006, 02:49
I haven't seen any new posts from you lately... Your nation is so developed, you have such a history, with names going back through families and languages...

When someone has a backdrop like that to write against, you cannot help but be great.

Anyway, I predict this thread fills up in a few days with people quoting and agreeing with the first seven, and so I'll not do that. You're welcome.

Uh...I'm Jenrak. I'm not sure we're talking about the same threads here...
Maraque
28-11-2006, 02:55
I love reading a lot of the RPs here because they're so imaginative and I can see it in my head word by word. My imagination runs wild. I love it.

I'm not a good RPer by any means, but I hope to get better. It's funny because I have such a vivid imagination for reading others RPs, but when it comes to my own I'm completely stale and dry. I just can't make it come out any good.
Emporer Pudu
28-11-2006, 03:04
Uh...I'm Jenrak. I'm not sure we're talking about the same threads here...

Yeah... I was both commenting on what everyone was doing, and the fact that your posts that I've read corrospond with what people describe...
Thrashia
28-11-2006, 03:20
I enjoy both the sense of gain (ie the feeling of having conquered a planet) I get from rp'ing and at the same time its fun to get wrapped up in the worlds created by a group of dedicated and good writers. I admire a lot of Chron's work as well as others like C'tan, CW, and before he left Parlim. There was a high point in the amount of good threads a year ago, and I can only hope that that drive to accomplish new things and write new history is enough to envigorate new members of the NS community.
Amazonian Beasts
28-11-2006, 03:49
I think it's degraded a bit since my earlier days. IMO, losing Pythogria sucked-the guy was really active, even if some of his posts were crap. However, I can still find RPs out that do provide a good plot and suspense that I'm looking for.

Hope I answered the question.
Thrashia
28-11-2006, 03:51
In slight connection with the topic of this thread i wrote up a short history of a conflict that took place long ago in a galaxy far away. It was a damned good fight and I enjoyed every minute of it. Here's a link if you're interested:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=508770
Nueve Italia
29-11-2006, 03:55
*bump*ed
Nueve Italia
01-12-2006, 01:09
*bump* again
Chronosia
01-12-2006, 01:19
Yet no one comments on Thrash's awesome job in relation to NS and its history! :P
Thrashia
01-12-2006, 01:27
Yet no one comments on Thrash's awesome job in relation to NS and its history! :P

Someone has to be modest, you forget! lol:p
Nueve Italia
01-12-2006, 01:28
yea, sorry for not postin on that, but that was a damn good read, well done Thrashia! One of the best pieces I've seen on NS actually in my short time.
Thrashia
01-12-2006, 01:32
yea, sorry for not postin on that, but that was a damn good read, well done Thrashia! One of the best pieces I've seen on NS actually in my short time.

Come'on guys, you're making me blush here.